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« Reply #45 on: Oct 04, 2011, 09:18 AM »

Hi Rad, and group ….

Here are my few thoughts about Gaga’s orientation to intimate and sexual relationships, and the dynamics and issues reflected in her birthchart … hope I am now being able to objectify some of these dynamics and issues  …

Thanks so much for this deepening learning experience …

God Bless,

Gonzalo
 
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Well ….. with Pluto/S.Node Scorpio 11th House, Gaga’s Soul has desired to liberate and rebel against any external and internal restrictions to her individuality, including any consensus conditioning factors of her sexual nature and desires. She has had along many lifetimes desires to liberate and to experiment in all possible ways her own sexuality, which is very strong, deep, and intense (and also quite ‘dark’ – Capricorn in the 2nd House cusp, Saturn in the 1st House, Neptune/Mars Capricorn 1st House, relative to Pluto/S.Node Scorpio, the 2nd House Capricorn south nodes, asteroid Eros is at 29°34’ Capricorn 2nd House, square the nodes and Venus). She has had an enormous variety of sexual experiences with other people of many different types and with many different sexual orientations along the way of discovering her personal way of being sexual (the variety and extent of relationships she has attracted to her is also indicated in other symbols of the birthchart: the 7th House ruler being Mercury in the 3rd House Pisces, Libra in the 11th House, with its ruler Venus in opposition to the 11th House Pluto …Uranus/Mars conjunct in the 1st House sextile Pluto/S.Node).

In fact, her Soul has desired to evolve through the osmosis of the Soul contents of many other people, which has occurred many times through sexual union (Pluto 11th House Scorpio).

With Pluto in Scorpio, the intensity of the relationships has allowed for the osmosis to occur. Pluto in the 11th House implies that, at same time, she has been learning who she is, by means of learning who she is not (becoming a minority, a group of one), this securing the ongoing need for other new relationships. Thus, many intense relationships, many of which have also been quite brief in time. I would seem to me that, by itself, Pluto Scorpio in the 11th House contains a possible polygamous sexual orientation; such orientation seems further indicated by Mars 1st House sextile the Pluto/South Node conjunction, trine the 5th House Venus in Aries, with the south node of Venus in the 3rd House Aquarius, ruled by Uranus in the 1st House.

Other reason in Gaga’s Soul for involving herself sexually with many other people has been the extremely intense insecurity she has experienced in many lifetimes in collective or social events (Pluto Scorpio 11th House  ruling the 12th House containing the Scorpio Moon, 4th House Pisces, ruled by Neptune in the 1st House Capricorn Balsamic conjunct Mars. Thus, many relationships have been sexualized in order to create a feeling of security in midst of the ongoing crises, without the time of coming to know the other person very much before sexualizing the relationship. Also, many relationships with ‘friends’ have been sexualized. Further, her Soul has experienced many abrupt losses, terminations or separations in relationships. Some degree of conflict has been created between the desire to trust and commit within relationships, and the desire to remain emotionally detached from the relationships.  

Through this variety of involvements her Soul has gained sexual knowledge and also a plasticity of her possibilities of sexual expression. Again, the Pluto south node ruler is the same Capricorn 2nd House cusp ruler, Saturn, which is Rx in the 1st House Sagittarius … this Saturn is Crescent square Jupiter in the 3rd House Pisces which is also the ruler of the Sagittarius Saturn  … at her evolutionary stage, this indicates at least that in her past, she has not been totally honest about her own sexual nature and desires. Same time, the 2nd House ruler Saturn is First Quarter square to Mercury Rx, which is also in the 3rd House Pisces, and which is the ruler of the 7th House, which is in Gemini … thus, her Soul’s plasticity at a sexual level, has been creating a persona (7th House) that is able to adapt (mutable) to the nature of many different other people, a persona that can do this so well that has also been deceiving others in different ways about her own sexual nature and desires, and thus, about her real involvement in the relationships. Thus, a settlement between her conflicting desires to secure and to detach, translating in wanting to secure the relationship for herself, and not for the partner, preserving her ‘right’ to secure other relationships with other people (Pluto/S.Node 11th House Scorpio, N.Node 5th House Taurus, planetary ruler Venus 5th House Aries, trine Mars in the 1st House, sextile the S.Node and Pluto).  

Mercury rules the 7th House which contains Chiron in Gemini, square the 3rd House Jupiter and Mercury … reflecting the wounds that have occurred in relationships because of this duplicity about fundamental aspects of her personal truth, and her personal truth about the relationship (Jupiter/Mercury are square the nodes of Uranus, which are in the 1st House the south node, and in the 7th House the north node in Gemini/Sagittarius, with Uranus in Sagittarius square Mercury, trauma which is connected with honesty issues in relationships, and sexual honesty specifically (Libra is in the 11th House, Aquarius is in the 3rd House; Uranus is in the 1st House, conjunct the south node of Mars in the 1st House Sagittarius, and conjunct Mars in the 1st House; the 11th House ruler is Venus, which is in Aries, in the 5th House, opposing Scorpio Pluto, conjunct the N.Node in Taurus, trine to Uranus 1st House, trine Mars 1st House, Crescent phase semisquare to Jupiter …).

The desire to osmose co-existing with a desire to detach also created at some point at psychological sexual level a ‘shadow’ based on a relative detachment from the own sexual psychological/emotional dynamics, while at same time a desire to create rationalizations or rather, philosophical and intellectual constructions which are blind to the own dynamics, so to speak, which mask or conceal existing motivations and agendas and in turn are delivered and promoted with the intent of having others believe in the constructions or half-truths presented (Jupiter 3rd House Pisces trine Pluto 11th House Scorpio).
Mercury is Gibbous sesquisquare to the South Node. Mercury in Pisces is Neptune ruled, and Neptune is conjunct Mars Balsamic, both 1st House Capricorn. Neptune/Mars are the 4th House and the 5th House rulers. Thus a Soul that for security reasons has given itself the right to liberate and to separate from whatever reality she has created and that, within relationships, has made choices in which she has wanted to initiate or to sustain the relationships despite her inner detachment or separation and “freedom” to initiate other relationships with other people. This duplicity that manifests an individualistic and egocentric/narcissistic orientation (North Node in the 5th House, ruler Venus in the 5th House Aries … all the 1st House planets and nodes), has also been compounded by anger existing in her Soul against whatever limitations placed by roles, norms, or structures, to the potential expression and actualization of her uniqueness (the individuality as the ultimate symbol). These desires to separate and to break free from any restrictions, and consensus restrictions specifically, have been in place for many lifetimes within her individuation (Balsamic). The duplicity is the theme of Poker face … “I won't tell you that I love you / kiss or hug you / cause I'm bluffin' with my muffin / I'm not lying I'm just stunnin' with my love-glue-gunning / just like a chick in the casino”).

She has also given herself those rights because of having been hurt, wounded, or humiliated in the past, and having experienced intense and excruciating powerlessness through different types of events (Neptune/Mars Balsamic in 1st House). Jupiter in the 3rd House is trine Pluto in the 11th House, reflecting the elaboration and sophistication that have been involved in the creation of rationalizations justifying and supporting the duplicity and the intellectual manipulations, denials, distortions of truth and half-trues, lies, etc. …. These symbols reflect at same time the rebellion against beliefs and manmade morals which have constrained her sexual nature, being inwardly and outwardly defined by this philosophical anarchism, rebellion and relativization involving varying degrees of skepticism, nihilism, agnosticism … deriving in creating her own self-given rights to discover and liberate herself in any ways she feels called to and that she feels secure for herself (the south node of Jupiter is in the 2nd House Capricorn with Saturn in the 1st House Sagittarius ruled by same Jupiter, which is trine Pluto …. Jupiter also rules the 1st House cusp).

Because the Moon is in the 12th House, trine the 3rd House Mercury, Pisces on the 4th House cusp ruled by Neptune in the 1st House which is semi-square the Moon, and the Moon being square the nodes of Neptune in the 2nd and 8th Houses, the plasticity and adaptability has created a situation in which Gaga has also created confusion for herself about who she is, and who she is sexually. Cancer is in the 8th House cusp, and the Moon is Scorpio, reflecting the desire to metamorphose the self-image through going really deep within herself in order to understand and evolve beyond the underlying dynamics, and sexual dynamics. Thus, creating an intense emotional compression which would enforce the necessary psychoanalysis of the emotional dynamics. With Mercury ruling the 7th House, Gaga would be creating attractions to other people who would mirror her own past duplicities, and also, specifically, people who are not able for different reasons to know who and how Gaga is, to identify her emotional/sexual needs, and to relate to the true depth of her Soul, ie. people who would perceive her through the lens of their own distortions and projections, some of whom will also have the projected expectation of Gaga adapting or conforming to their own narcissistic or masturbatory desires (Libra in the 11th House, ruled by Venus in the 5th House Aries conjunct the Taurus N.Node, the south node of Venus being in the 3rd House Aquarius). These people would create an essential personal and sexual frustration in Gaga, and would induce the necessary inner questions deriving in a deeper self-knowledge, self-definition, and self-reliance.
Same symbols (Neptune/Mars Capricorn) reflect the natural guilt in her Soul because of the manipulations that existed in the past, and the desires to atone and to humiliate.  

With the polarity point of Pluto in the 5th House Taurus, the N.Node in the 5th House Taurus, Venus in Aries in the 5th House, the north node of Venus  in the 5th House Taurus, conjunct the north node of Mars in the 5th House Taurus, this planetary nodes being trine the 1st House Mars in Capricorn, Gaga is required in evolutionary terms to sustain herself emotionally and sexually in autonomous, non-dependent, and self-reliant ways, in order to advance by her own means in the discovery, actualization, and empowerment of her own sexual identity and nature, becoming totally self-responsible and determined to being sexually only the way she is, and nothing else, though needing to experience and re-experience being taken for someone different than she really is.
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« Reply #46 on: Oct 05, 2011, 01:03 AM »


Lady Gaga – Follow-up EA analysis re relationships


Lady Gaga’s Soul is defined by a deep sense of uniqueness and differentness, having arrived at this point by an accelerated de-conditioning from past patterns of behaviour through the process of detachment and objectivity, revealing her true essence.  Awareness of her limitations or powerlessness, and therefore a need for power, sustains a pronounced evolutionary impulse to grow and evolve, Pluto Scorpio 11th.  Her past life relationship dynamics reflect dispassionate-to-deep penetration into explorations of a variety of sexual practices with a great variety of friends or lovers for the purpose of osmosing power that created all levels of bonding and intimacy (shallow-to-profound).  Very often friendships would turn into intimacy.  Relating patterns were bizarre, intense, complex and extremely unbalanced as were the sexual practices, summed up by the dictum “anything goes,” Venus rules 11th, Venus opp SN/Pluto, Uranus Sag naturally rules 11th.  

Desires for like-minded friends and lovers who would resonate with her own Soul attracted a high turnover of magnetic sexual attractions of both sexes who were used for sex, then dumped (black widow) – she was used by others in this way also.  This limitless freedom drew parallel experiences of vindictiveness, betrayal, violence, abuse, and sudden bitter endings leading inevitably to the cumulative effect of her Soul suffering trauma and displaced emotions, Moon Scorpio 12th, Lucifer t-squ Nodes, making it evolutionarily necessary to re-live key relationships from the past so as to restore overall balance and stability, Venus conj NN, NNs Venus/Mars/SN Chiron conjunct NN 5th, Mars/Cap 1st rules Venus.  

Relationships that had suddenly ended in shock and rage, due to her hurting others, or they hurting her, or where one partner did not think the relationship was over, meant they would meet again in this lifetime to work through whatever their Souls had decided together for their respective evolutionary intentions, NNs Venus/Mars conj NN/Lilith.  The next evolutionary step in this lifetime for many of her relationships will be to forgive each other for whatever happened in the past, and to realize that even though they both had been greatly hurt, that love is still operating, and this will lead to the healing of wounds from the past.  Self-reliance and working to actualize her own unique essence, will put her needs in the correct perspective in relation to partners, 7th house polarity, while the lines of communication with partners will be kept open and honest, Chiron ruled by Mercury Pisces 3rd.

Lady Gaga admits bisexuality
“I love androgyny – I like pushing boundaries.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz6TYQ4Ln8E

Her natural sexual orientation is androgynous played out in this life in a bisexual orientation, SN Venus Aquarius 3rd, SN Mercury Pisces 3rd, Chiron Gemini 7th, NN Uranus conj Chiron, SN Venus sextile Uranus/Venus.  She is de-conditioning from having suppressed her bisexuality in the past for fear of persecution and judgment, Chiron opp Saturn, Mars/Neptune Cap, Lilith conj Chiron.  

In the progressive de-conditioning from limitations of any kind, there had been a great deal of confusion and shock in her transitions, an example being suddenly revealing to past life partners that she had fallen in love with a member of the same sex.  Another example is being “two-faced,” disloyal and betraying partners, hiding the truth by having more than one relationship at the same time, Chiron Gemini 7th, ruler Mercury Pisces 3rd, and these behaviours possibly attracting violence and abuse, or causing self-implosion that stored the trauma within her physical body, Saturn conj Asc, 1st house planets, Venus ruled by Mars Cap conjunct Uranus/SN Mars.  It is probable that she was hiding the truth in various scenarios such as:  sex with multiple strangers, or a hiding signature for fear of death, Vesta, or duplicity in love relationships, and these scenarios creating the karma of secrets, Jupiter/Mercury t-square Saturn/Chiron.  
  
She is throwing off past imbalances such as not hearing the words of others, or they not hearing her, perhaps due to being too absorbed with herself, Chiron opp Saturn, Chiron squ Mercury/Jupiter, Mercury/Jupiter squ Saturn, Mercury squ Uranus.  With these aspects, it is possible that she had a learning difficulty, or problems with short-term memory.  These aspects could also have applied to teacher/student relationships where she had been learning, through a genius capacity, to liberate the structure of her consciousness.  It is also possible that she had not been listening to others due to boredom, and this reflecting the severance or detachment from old friendships that had served their purpose, Uranus rules 3rd.

Lucifer Cancer, intensified in the 8th house, depicts intensely negative thoughts and emotions that undermine or block the direction that her Soul knows to be right, no matter how radical that direction can seem.  This aspect can also manifest as displaced emotions projected subconsciously onto intimate partners upon whom she has become overly- or symbiotically- dependent, or partners who have become overly-dependent upon her, Lucifer squ Venus, thus magnifying the cataclysmic force of Pluto gibbous opp Venus.  A major lesson is to heal the trauma originating with her parents by supplying her own inner nurturing and security, Lucifer opp SN Saturn, and heal the spiritual trauma stored in the unconscious by surrendering to the Divine Mother, Moon Scorpio 12th, NN Pluto Cancer 8th.  

Stories, scandals and gossip about her personal life and relationships that are made public by the media, Mercury rules MC Virgo, could be a cause of further trauma, bringing guilt or anger to the surface, and prompting an accelerated desire for self-improvement and purging of unnatural guilt, MC squ Uranus/Juno, Lilith Taurus 6th conj NN, MC squ Uranus, NN Mercury squ NNs Saturn/Pluto 8th, NN Mercury squ SNs Pluto/Jupiter.  Having to learn to respond to the “judgments” of the world with grace, humility and honesty will tone down self-centredness and bring further lessons in speaking the truth, Mars squ Sun, Sun inconj Pluto, Sun squ Neptune.  It seems she has already internally dealt with the intrusion of the media by the use of her creative genius, NN Mercury conj Venus 5th:  


Her Soul carries a type of hysteria or rage as a result of patriarchal persecution and judgment, Mars/Neptune Cap 1st, and living in an unnatural reality where natural law has been/continues to be violated, 2nd house planetary SNs Cap/Aqu.  The agonizing pain of having suppressed this deep wound within her unconscious, and stored within her physical body, trickles out by way of passive/aggressive reactions, and sudden unleashings of wrath and fury at restrictions of any kind, including a fear of commitment, Mars conj Neptune, Venus gibbous opp Pluto, SNs Mars/Uranus Sag 1st.  Other reasons for this hysteria and rage stem from being sexually violated while living in communal cultures, accounting for a deep-seated mistrust of others, SN Uranus/Mars 1st, Venus squ Lucifer, Moon Scorpio 12th, Chiron 7th, or from experiences of cataclysmic events where she and her group starved due to famine, or did not survive a cataclysm, planetary SNs 2nd, Saturn Sag 1st, SN Uranus 1st, NN Taurus opp Pluto.

Her drive is doubled in strength, Mars exalted in Cap, and is directed toward fulfilling new ideas, dreams and fantasies, and merging her consciousness with Source energy, Mars/Neptune Cap 1st, Moon Scorpio 12th.  A distortion that has manifested in the past, and could manifest again in this lifetime, is seeing a partner as a defacto God/Goddess (or even seeing herself as such), Neptune Cap 1st, and projecting ultimate meaning onto that partner, with these types of relationships ending in disillusionment.  This will throw her back upon herself to learn the lesson of self-reliance, to look within herself to find the inner symbols of power and transformation, PPP.

Pluto is powerful in its own sign, and the intensity is so extreme that finding the right partner to deal with all of that intensity and constant movement could be difficult.  This condition is created by her Soul in order to find relationships that will be based on independence, self-reliance and self-sufficiency, and not addictive compulsion to be together, Venus conj NN Taurus 5th.  Sorting through the complexity and intensity of her life, she will keep revisiting a relatively new perspective:  that simplicity is the essence of life, which is contrary to her past or to-date (NN Taurus).  The simplicity and joy of love could mean her Heart getting hurt, but this will only motivate her to find new ways to express her love nature (Venus ruled by Mars Cap 1st).

In this lifetime the main aspect of fruition is the expansion of her philosophical framework which is allowing her to share and communicate her creative social visions with the world, Jupiter grand trine Pluto/Vesta/Pallas, Star of David.  Jupiter is important because it is the final dispositor in the chart, and therefore the search for spiritual truth and honesty are of the utmost importance to her Soul right now.  Mental confusion will give way to surrendering to a higher power that will finally bring peace, natural wisdom, alignment with universal and timeless laws, and new returning desires to the Source, Mars conj Neptune, Jupiter/Mercury squ Chiron.  It’s not easy being a celebrity, but it took worldwide public exposure in order to make a comparison to the simple life.  As part of her new NN desires, Venus ruled by Mars Cap 1st, she will slow down somewhat to a more uncomplicated life, perhaps discovering a love for Nature.    

Lady Gaga has taken many steps to develop her unique individuality and creativity and in so doing has awakened a sense of her inherent value, self-worth and self-esteem (NN Taurus 5th).  Pastlife relationships that had been defined by compulsive obsession, excessive dependency, sudden endings creating emotional shocks, or secret agendas being revealed were created for the purpose of each partner to learn how to function without the other, and to take full charge of their own lives independent of the other, Pluto conj SN, PPP Taurus 5th, Venus Aries.  In this way she starts to attract others who are self-reliant and who are working to actualize their own unique Soul essence, thus freeing herself from the past, and promoting evolution.  


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Thanks again Rad for your time and feedback.


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« Reply #47 on: Oct 05, 2011, 03:35 PM »

Hi Rad, I intend to have mine in b4 end of this week.
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« Reply #48 on: Oct 06, 2011, 07:10 AM »

Hi Ari,

Ok ............

God Bless, Rad
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« Reply #49 on: Oct 06, 2011, 03:57 PM »

Hi Rad and Group,

Some observations on
LADY GAGA, INTIMATE RELATIONSHIPS

The reliving in relationships revolves around the need of resolving issues related to commitment or/and independence, separation and/or deep relating, fear of enmeshment, trust and power (Venus in 5th house in Aries conjunct NN and opposite Pluto and Sn in Scorpio in 11th house, and Moon in Scorpio in 12th ruling her 8th house and 30’ after the 5º orb of an inconjunction to Venus).
Venus SN in Aquarius square Moon in Scorpio, whose SN is also in Scorpio in 11th reflects trauma caused by abandon or betrayal or suffering the power and domination of her partners.
Thus, trust in committed relationships is difficult for thus Soul that brings anger and rage caused by these betrayals and abandons that in turn had created compulsive attitudes of great attraction and desire to be in relationship as well as a fear of entrapment, of losing independence and self-identity. (Moon in Scorpio gibbous opposition Amazone, Venus conj Chiron SN in Aries).
Together with a tendency to withdraw or avoiding commitment, there was a defense mechanism of abandoning first in order to avoid the trauma of being abandoned. (Venus opposition Pluto in Scorpio in 11th) 
But   being Venus SN DP square Moon she is now living a crisis in consciousness in preparation for another key evolutionary development, and there is a creative tension produced through the process of moving forwards with this new form vs. the compulsive temptation to slide back into old patterns of behavior (Venus SN FQP Amazon)

The more recent preexisting patterns are related with this Venus in Aries in 5th house that reflects a self-orientated attitude in intimate relationships and a strong  need of independence (Venus trine Uranus and Juno in Sag in 1st house that are conjunct Saturn conjunct SN Amazone and Ascendant). She is instinctively linked to her independence and defense of her individuality, and may be that in more recent lifetimes the trauma related to betrayal or power in relationships was dissociated from her consciousness and mind (Saturn conjunct Uranus SN and balsamic Uranus and opposite Chiron square Mercury RX in Pisces, Uranus semisquare Pluto conjunct SN), and she was linked to the lighter, more optimistic aspects of her Soul (Venus in Aries trine Uranus in Sag and semisquare Chiron in Gemini).

The semisquare with Chiron reflects a difficulty to deal with the dark aspects of relationships, but like Psyche in her story with Eros, only facing Aphrodite’s dark side and her own shadow (symbolized in the myth by envious sisters [Gemini]) her love relationships will evolve and attain conscious integrity. That is reflected in Chiron’s opposition to Saturn conjunct Uranus (consciousness integrating individuated unconscious) and square Vesta conjunct Jupiter, symbols of her wholeness and integrity.

The reliving in order to throwing off of old patterns of intimate relationships is beginning (Venus opposite SN applicative 6 degrees), and her Soul is evolving through that (Venus NN conjunct  PPP conjunct R.L. and Amazone NN).
In addition, being Venus in FQP to Mars (its ruler), until now the Soul has been learning basically to relate to itself and developing courage to stand apart and asserting his individuality and subjectivity. But because of past abandon and trust wounds and the crisis inherent to this face, she has been experiencing the fear of being in relationships, specifically intimate ones, fearing the loss of its sense of individuality.

It looks like in this lifetime she is being able to realize that the individuality that has been established will not be lost, and that she can nurture herself as well as her intimate relationships  (Venus conjunct NN , Mars and Venus NN in NP conjunction that are conjunct R.L. and Amazone NN in Taurus; in a Grand Trine with Mars conj Neptune in 1st  and Ceres; and semisquare Jupiter and Vesta in Pisces as a kind of intermediation between the integrity they reflect and  the duality light/ darkness of Chiron in Gemini in 7th  ).
Being part of the Grand Trine via its conjunction to NN, and a progressive link between the past wounds and the future (conjunction NN and PPP), Venus is actualizing its function of uniting inwardly discordant aspects of her personality.

However, we see much individuality in the former lifetimes, perhaps not much dedication to intimate relationships because of preserving freedom and individuality, or for dedication to collective or group causes.
There may be natural guilt for the trauma created  because of that ( 5th house and Venus ruler Mars in Cap in 1rst house conjunct Uranus [Venus SN ruler]) or/and for not having been present in relationships, even abandoning ( Moon in Scorpio in 12th semisquare Mars conjunct Neptune in Cap, ruled by Pluto in Scorpio in 11th conjunct SN).

There is also projected guilt. Rad pointed out that it comes from those who have closest to her by way of intimacy and close friends.
It’s possible that her family has projected on her some guilt that could affect her conscious wholeness because of misunderstanding of her alignment with natural Law and natural ways of living sexuality and relationships. That is seen in Venus sesquisquare Saturn in Sag 1st (that’s conjunct Amazone SN and Juno and Uranus), and also in its semisquare to Chiron in 7th  that reflects influence of other’s mind regarding relationships and wounds in the way that other’s listen to her. In addition her 7th house hosts Pallas in Cancer opposite Mars in Cap and square Sun in 4th house (her family and self-image related to it) that rules her intimate relationships, and is square her Jupiter conj Vesta (wholeness and self-identity according to N.L.),  that in turn are  ruled by Neptune in Cap.

But I wonder if is this square between Saturn in 1st and Jupiter also reflects the natural guilt regarding her individualistic approach to relationships in his evolution process towards an individual though embracing and caring way of relating.

Currently her consciousness  is experiencing a compression leading to an inner awareness of the need to refine the way of relating, that involves embracing her own vulnerability and the individual needs, the individuality, of partners and friends  ( Jupiter CP square Saturn, Saturn PP in Gemini in 7h conjunct  Uranus NN and Chiron, Mars PP in Cancer in 7th conjunct Pallas and Jupiter NN in Gemini, Venus PP in Libra).This involves throwing off the old patterns of wounding others by not hearing them as well as the projected guilt.

SEXUALITY
Part of the current purpose of this Soul is to integrate the emergence of a conscious and egocentric identification with the new evolutionary purpose regarding sexuality in a new self-image and self identity that is finishing a cycle of integration between the individuated unconscious and the structure of her consciousness (Saturn semisextile Pluto balsamic conjunction Uranus trine Sun in Aries in 4th house.
In order to do it the Soul is picking up its original union between genders  and to Natural Law, then its  evolutionary experience through patriarchy with its repressions, distortions and traumatic consequences, towards  an integrating synthesis in self reliance and equality restoring feminine and vulnerable power as a way to actualizing committed and unconditional union in the power of Universal Love (2nd house ruler Saturn RX conjunct Amazone SN;  2nd house in Cap hosting S Nodes of Ceres, Jupiter, Pluto and Saturn in Cap, Sn of Vesta and Neptune in Aquarius;  NN conjunct Mars and Venus NN, conjunct  R.L. conjunct NN Amazone NN in Taurus;  Venus PP in Libra and  NNodes of Vesta, Uranus and Jupiter in 7th house;  NN Saturn and Pluto in 8th house in Cancer;  Neptune NN in 8th house in Leo).

The preexisting pattern of sexuality that she is still working on is that of repression, although in former lives she has already been trying to penetrate the causes of that restraints and repressions (Saturn RX ruler Mars in Cap in 1st  , Pluto in Scorpio conjunct SN).
Together with patriarchal causes, the Soul brings trauma caused by betrayal and abandon that has been suppressed (Uranus conjunct Saturn and Mars conjunct Neptune in Cap) and that made difficult trusting in itself and in others (Uranus in Sag semisquare SN and Pluto, square Mercury ruler of 7th house and square asteroid Fides in Virgo; Moon in Scorpio in 12th sesquisquare Aries Sun in 4th house).
Trauma, betrayal and repression have produced insecurity and fear of vulnerability together with lack of self reliance that led to submission to other’s power in  sexual relationships and also a reactive behavior in which she was who overpowered her partners. ( 2nd house SN of Pluto and Saturn in Cap and Vesta in Aquarius opposite Lucifer in Cancer in 8th, ruled by Moon in Scorpio in 12th that in turn is ruled by Pluto in Scorpio in 11th ).
Given Cap repression and Lucifer in Cancer characteristics, the Soul acted out compulsively without a clue to knowing the causes of its rage and power desires in its emotional body.

With Mars in Cap conjunct its Sn in Sag, the Soul desires now to break free from all sexual inhibitions and constraints that its 2nd house hosting SN of Pluto, Jupiter and Saturn shows, and that produced anger and distortions in its sexuality expression. 
Natural guilt was also produced by these sexual attitudes (Mars in Cap ruled By Saturn RX square Jupiter).There is also the intention to atone for that guilt (Mars trine R.L. conjunct Amazone NN in 6th house, Amazone in Taurus in 6th trine Fides in Virgo), to forgiving and self-forgiving ( Mars conjunct Neptune sextile Vesta, Jupiter and Lucifer NN in Pisces, Moon in Scorpio in 12th  house trine 7th house ruler in Pisces ).
In order to do it, the reliving has the goal of finding the causes of distortions and guilt in her emotional psychology, accepting responsibility   and changing the inner relationship to herself - the real antidote to Lucifer in 8th house. (Pluto RX in Scorpio, Saturn RX and Mars in Cap in 1st house trine Venus conjunct NN in Taurus).

 In addition, she is trying to integrate vulnerability (Mars in Cap conjunct Neptune opposite Pallas conjunct its PP in Cancer in 7th). This intention of throwing off old patterns of relationship, together with her acknowledging the individuality of partners and friends is part of the creative stress that interrelates with the Star of David Pattern that reflects an ease of integration of the evolution that the creative stress promotes.
Thus Mars -  part of her reliving in the T-square with Pallas in 7th and ruler 5th house Sun, and also part of the Gran Trine with NN and Ceres in Virgo (atoning and healing by self-nurturing) in the Star  pattern in its fruition sense  -  has together with  Venus  a pivotal role in the ongoing of her evolution.   

Rad: To me is still difficult to identify natural guilt. I would especially appreciate your corrections in my try.
Thanks so much
God Bless
Mirta

 


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« Reply #50 on: Oct 07, 2011, 08:17 AM »

Hi Jason,

Thanks for adding the addendum that you have relative to the hysteria within Gag's Soul. Since you will be leaving for a couple of weeks starting Sunday I wanted to briefly comment on this unresolved dynamic of her hysteria since you have put so much EA analysis into it, and that analysis is simply brilliant. It is entirely accurate and comprehensive in it's scope. One core issue that is related to all that you have pointed out that I want to share with you, because you are leaving for a bit so wanted you to know about this related issue, is linked with her inner desire to LOSE CONTROL relative to her desire to control for the reasons you have rightly pointed out. The desire to lose control is contained within the archetype of Capricorn.

In her case with her Mars conjunct Neptune in Capricorn, and both are conjunct her S.Node of Mars in Sagittarius in her 1st, the desire to lose control is then linked with her desire for complete freedom. In this case, the freedom from desiring to control. But much deeper within her is also all the accumulated guilt for all the reasons that you have pointed out in your in depth EA analysis of her past orientations to relationships and people. This deep guilt which is rooted in all the dynamics you have pointed out is also linked with core dynamics that Gonzalo has pointed out that has also lead to her karmic necessity of having to relive and repeat so many relationships from her past: her duplicity.

As a result of this, prior to this life, her Soul has created sexual dynamics that have then lead to a deep part of the unresolved hysteria. In conjunction with her desire for freedom relative to her desire to lose control she has, previous to this life, set up sexual dynamics that involved groups of men, Pluto in Scorpio in the 11th, Mars/Neptune in Capricorn, that would be sexual with her all at the same time. The vernacular of course being called 'gang bangs'. Her Soul set these types of dynamics up to also challenge or push the limits: Pluto in Scorpio in the 11th. Her Soul also set this up in order to punish herself because of the guilt: Mars/Neptune in Capricorn. This is also reflected in the asteroids that you have also correctly understood relative to her 'dark eros'.  

The bottom line is that through this dynamic of the 'gang bangs' she ended up losing control of herself to the point where she was 'forced' to keep having one orgasm after the other to the point of going into an almost unconscious state. Her body kept having orgasms even as she tried to stop it, but could not: total loss of control. It was the sheer intensity of sustained physical sex that she could no longer control that the lead to psychological hysteria. This dynamic within her has manifested more than once, more than in one life, and is various ways including actually being forced against her will: gang rape.

Unresolved hysteria has of course resulted from this dynamic, as well as all the other dynamics that you have so brilliantly understood.

Have a wonderful trip Jason.

God Bless, Rad
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« Reply #51 on: Oct 08, 2011, 02:50 AM »

Hi Rad and community, I have failed at managing my time appropriately and am not ready to post. I am committing to complete this by the end of the weekend.
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« Reply #52 on: Oct 08, 2011, 07:40 AM »

Hi Ari,

Ok.............and, Gray, if you read this let me know you own plans.............


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« Reply #53 on: Oct 08, 2011, 03:17 PM »

Hi Jason

Have a great trip !

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« Reply #54 on: Oct 08, 2011, 05:16 PM »

Hi Rad, I am hoping to post something on Sunday. If I do not feel free to move on and I'll join in later. I am balancing working on my own curriculum to teach and then making enough time to read and post on the message board; I haven't figured it out yet.

Blessings to all of you,
in Spirit,
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« Reply #55 on: Oct 09, 2011, 01:00 PM »

Hi Rad, thank you so much for your continued guidance and unconditional encouragement with this work.

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What has been the evolutionary intention within her Soul to experience ‘violence and social confrontations’ of various kinds ? And what are the specific causes of the inner guilt her Soul carries ? These symbols, in conjunction with her 12th House Scorpio Moon also correlate to a deep unresolved  hysteria within her Soul. What is that about, and why ?

The core EA intention for this soul has been to throw off all conditioning factors that prevent her from actualizing her innate individuality. A part of this process has been linked to intense sexual encounters in which she sought intense emotional/sexual stimulation. The reason for this is because of the desire to die, to evolve beyond her own limitations linked to past experiences in which she has in some way chosen to control and repress her sexual urges, and thus has not fully accessed the depth of her inner emotional reality, the basis of which has often been the need to survive. This is signified by the south nodes of Jupiter Pluto and Saturn all in Capricorn in the second house in a first quarter square to the south node which is ruled by Pluto on the sn.

As a result of this need to break free, she has attracted traumatic events into her life that were often through intense sexual exchange, and the way she has dealt with the trauma has been by keeping it inside, holding it within and remaining autonomous (Capricorn second house and first house).

The need for chaos itself is symbolized by Capricorn, in Particular the second house and the sn's being ruled by Saturn in the first along with Mars and its sn conjunct Neptune in Capricorn in the first. She has often resorted to sexuality as a means to survive. She has a history with the sacred role of the sexual initiate as symbolized by Vesta in Aquarius in the second house squaring the nodes, which of course has been distorted over the years. The connection with the Capricorn signatures here implies the intensity through which this soul has internalized patriarchal conditioning around sexuality.

The hysteria itself is indicated by the need to loose control linked with having attracted into her life, consciously and unconsciously (Pluto) various experiences that pushed the limit (11th house) of her identity - through intense emotional and sexual trauma. On a cyclic basis given the 8th house north nodes which is ruled by the Moon, this means she would would enter into a state of deep uncontrolable emotional hysteria. The psychology of victimization and intense emotional need would come through. There would be absolutely no self censoring of this.

The Mars Neptune in Capricorn, especially given the nature of the balsamic phase and the fact of the sn of Mars being right there as well, points to a lot of anger and a strong need to assert her own individuality linked with that anger. This is because of all the ways she has been limited and has suppressed her self in the past. And so, in combination with the sn Pluto and its square to the second house Capricorn, all ruled by Saturn which is forming a T square with Chiron in Gemini in the 7th, points to a strong karmic pattern for this soul having been a really crappy listener in relationships. She has been deeply consumed with her own intense emotional needs, and fulfilling them that she has often asserted her own agenda onto her partners - lacking in the ability to listen. The rulers of Saturn and Chiron are Mercury and Jupiter conjunct in Pisces in the 3rd created that T square. These planets are ruled by Neptune in the first which leads us back to Saturn, its ruler.

This correlates to a soul that has spoken when it wasn't her turn, has been a reactive listener, and has thrusted her own motivations and will into her relationships. Within her soul is a deep need for intimacy, sharing, connection and an equal exchange of dialog and ideas with other souls, however based on her own unresolved emotional dynamics, she has consistatly gone to extreemes in her relartionships of being in control and in some ways manipulative through her use on control, and whenever she would reach a state of intense emotional/sexual stimulation, she would enter into a hysteria linked to profound abandonment and trauma that she has not dealt with. During such episodes her pattern would have been to project onto her partner all the psychological material that is emanating from her individuated unconscious. Projections as well as demands and needs that her partners simply cannot meet.  All of this is also the specific cause of the inner guilt that she carries - that along with having attracted sexual and traumatic experiences that were violative in its very nature, yet having been deeply compelled to participate in it based on the need to create intensity in order to evolve beyond her limitations and break from from past conditioning and trauma. This has hurt herself as well as other people.

The Chiron Pluto inconjunct which loosely forms a yod with Neptune with Saturn at the apex, simply points to the nature of this crisis within the soul. With Chiron at the top the dilemma is her need for balanced relationship and a core wounding within her soul that may project a story like "I am not capable of being met. No one can meet my actual needs. I am too wounded." Her own behavior and experiences in her relationships would in fact be a "proof" to the validity of her own wounding story.

The ea lesson for this soul is to first become conscious of the reality of these patterns, the intensity of her own hysteria and the effects that this has on other people. As she becomes more aware of how she has created trauma for others due to the intensity of her emotional outbursts, she will develop a more humble and compassionate self awareness that will lead her to seek healing at all costs. This will occur by way of reliving the various traumas and abandonments she has experienced in the past in a safe way. This is the nature of the Pluto sn relive condition as it relates to her personal relationships and unresolved hysteria. In order to relive this, she needs to feel incredibly safe and protected - Scorpio Moon in the 12th ruled by that Pluto and ruling the 8th house Cancer north nodes.

She will do this by forming a relationship to a "mother figure" that would provide a source of unconditional love and healing. At her EA stage she is not going to become an amma devotee just yet,
rather this will likely manifest by way of adopting to a life of service that will allow her to become the mother figure and help other souls, in particular women and alienated groups of people, to fully release and heal their own emotional trauma. Doing this more and more, through the medium of art (venus Taurus 5th house), will provide for her the opportunity to become more self aware and objectively detach from the traumas. But that alone won’t fully support her unresolved dynamics in personal relationships.

Healing practices and healers that focus on the access of chaos in a safe and structured way would support her as well. An example of this would be to see a woman healer who works with sexuality in such a way as to support the safe release of repressed emotion.

God bless,
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« Reply #56 on: Oct 10, 2011, 09:32 AM »

Hi Ari, Cat, Gonzalo, Kristin, Mirta, Linda, and Jason

I have already read through what you have all posted, and I want to thank all of you for making the great efforts that you have in the context of your own lives. I will be posting tomorrow, Tuesday, my comments to all of you. Until then thank you for your efforts and

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« Reply #57 on: Oct 11, 2011, 08:34 AM »

Hi Cat,

An very good follow up effort on your part in which you are demonstrating your increasing grasp of EA. There is the following analysis that was not quite correct:

"Mars in the 1st house indicates a new beginning in which Lady Gaga is instinctually actualizing her subjective desire to act on her unconscious repressed desires from her past in order to fulfill her core intention and desire to evolve past her personal limitations related to her fear of intimacy and sex in general.In order for this to happen she needs to be free and independendent in order to have many sexual experiences with many different people.  The bottom line is that in acting out these past sexual desires she eliminates the desire."

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This is not true because her S.Node of Mars in Sagittarius is in her 1st House and is ruled by her Jupiter in Pisces in the 3rd which is also trine her Pluto in Scorpio in the 11th conjunct the S.Node. In other words, her need for freedom in every way is of long standing.

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Other than that here is what stood out for me:

"Mars in Capricorn the 1st house indicates that Lady Gaga is acting on on her subjective desire to decondition herself in relation to moralistic and religious conditioning patterns from her past lives which have created a deep unconscious sense of guilt within her.  In her most recent past lives, she has lived in very authoritarian societies and cultures which were extremely moralistic based on the authority of man-made religious structures. In these lives she has also had strict authoritarian parents who repressed their emotions and/or sexuality.  Mars in the 1st house indicates a new beginning in which Lady Gaga is instinctually actualizing her subjective desire to act on her unconscious repressed desires from her past in order to fulfill her core intention and desire to evolve past her personal limitations related to her fear of intimacy and sex in general.In order for this to happen she needs to be free and independendent in order to have many sexual experiences with many different people.  The bottom line is that in acting out these past sexual desires she eliminates the desire."

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 "With Venus in Aries in the 5th House, Lady Gaga creates relationships in which everyone must serve her and her purpose in some way.  She is attracted to people who have a strong sense of self,  a passionate nature, are self-oriented, and have a strong purpose in life.  With Mars in Capricorn, she attracts sexual partners who are sexually fractured or sexually repressed in some way.  With Neptune conjunct Mars these partners appear to be innocent, sensitive and pure at first.  Both her sexual partners and the other people she forms other types of relationships serve as mirrors and are a reflection of Lady Gaga's own inner self. Once Gaga sees herself in another, she reacts by becoming disillusioned and angry (Neptune), witholds her sexual energy out of fear of losing her independence, her fear of commitment, fear of intimacy etc (Venus), or the relationship may become abusive, violent or based on dominance or humilty (Mars)."

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« Reply #58 on: Oct 11, 2011, 08:41 AM »

Hi Kristin,

A very excellent and comprehensive understanding of Gaga's relationship and sexual dynamics. Your EA reasoning within this being excellent as well. There was just the following correction that needed to be made:

"The planets that rule the second chakra, the sacred womb, where the ‘divine’ exchanges occur are Jupiter and Neptune. The Asteroid Vesta is reflected in this second chakra. Jupiter conjuncts Vesta in Pisces and forms a grand trine with Gaga’s South Node and Pluto in Scorpio and Pallas in Cancer in the 7th. Neptune, ruler of her Jupiter sextiles her South Node and Pluto. Neptune is conjunct Mars, the initiator, and they are conjunct the South Node of Mars in Cap, ruler Saturn in Sagittarius, ruled by Jupiter and the circle is complete. Saturn also trines her Sun in Aries in the 4th, ruler Mars in the first conjunct Neptune, all of these themes keep circling back."

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Her S.Node of Mars is in Sagittarius conjunct her natal Mars/Neptune. This is ruled by Jupiter which is then square her Saturn, the ruler of her Mars.

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Other than that here is what stood our for me:

On the one hand it will take a great deal for her to absolutely trust another, to be able to become totally vulnerable with them as this trust has been abused in the past leading to all sorts of personal trauma seen in the very same signatures mentioned above. She may very well be afraid of her own intensity and where that leads sexually speaking because of how extreme her nature is and the consequences culturally speaking of her natural wiring and sexual design. She may have extended that trust in others who she felt were just like she was, and had the same intentions and desires, that they want to go as far as she wanted to go, yet her 12th house Moon in Scorpio may have caused her to get swept away in the illusion of the depth of her own fantasies. You can see she has always chosen partners like herself that were just as eccentric in the way they related to the world as she is, also self reliant and freedom loving in their own ways. This is seen with Libra on the 11th house cusp where her South Node and Pluto reside, also her South Node of Venus is in Aquarius in the 2nd house. In relationships, the challenge lies in her Venus in Aries, creating an emotional paradox where she will only attract partners that meet some of her needs, because of her own need for freedom, this will guarantee her an exit point if necessary. Her Mars in Cap squaring her Sun in Aries in the 4th also reflects her own emotional repression which will cause her to attract partners based on that limited 'signal' considering everything she herself is holding back. This will not equal the natural fit, more like the forced fit, at least early on. Also as wild and open as she is publicly, I imagine she is still guarded intimately to some degree with Mars in Cap squaring her 4th house Sun in Aries, she will have a fear of being vulnerable yet that is also the only way back to experiencing meaningful communions, and ultimately the only way back to God."

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"Some additional re-live symbols are also seen with the  North Node of Chiron conjunct her South Node/Pluto and her South Node of Chiron conjunct her Venus and her North Node. Another story that came to me was Gaga having a life as I had mentioned in my prior post of being a hermaphrodite, this signature seen with natal Chiron in the 7th in Gemini, Mercury, ruler of the 7th house cusp is in Pisces in the 3rd and squares Uranus in Sag in the 1st. Chiron also opposes Saturn in Sagittarius in the first.This strikes me as a signature of her nature in a life as a hermaphrodite being discovered, like a surprise discovery, the church finding out, and another being horrified of her body, being told that she was deformed, ugly or evil and not a child of God...this leading to the projected guilt that she must have done something in a past life to deserve this. Lucifer is in Cancer in the 8th, ruler Moon in Scorpio in the 12th, inconjunct her Pallas in Cancer in the 7th.If she was burned, thrown in the loonie bin, verbally told messages while been persecuted for being different, it does not matter how non conforming or radical a Soul is, these wounds will carry forward, these harsh messages about how her nature was deformed Saturn in Sag squaring Pisces in the 3rd, perhaps messages like, Not even God would love you’ - she knew different of course, but still those messages are like arrows shot straight into the heart of the Soul."

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"This same Pluto/Venus Gibbous phase inconjunct connects to her attraction to power, to having it and to being able to use it to change the world and also being attracted to others who have it in order to help her mission. I can see how she may have also been attracted to people who had power and fame in order to help her spread her own message ie they had the resources, connections to help her go further and faster. So she may have ‘used’ others in certain situations for these purposes, perhaps in some cases these were people who rendered her powerless in the past, and then, and possibly now she is using the very power of others that destroyed her in the past to help propel her forward. Part of Gaga’s re-live is also linked with quite a bit of karma connected with attracting people who have betrayed her many times over, Pluto in Scorpio on the South Node, ruler of 11th house cusp in Libra is Venus in Aries conjunct the North Node attracting people who ‘owe’ her and as what occurs as anyone evolves, she is re-attracting people who have betrayed her - they now being given an opportunity to do the right thing, to right the ship in many instances it will not even begin to repay her for what occurred in the past, nevertheless they will meet again, for better or for worse. She is learning WHO TO TRUST again starting with HERSELF and in her own ability to read other people’s intentions, to use her laser like capacity to read the true motives of others."

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« Reply #59 on: Oct 11, 2011, 08:45 AM »

Hi Jason,

Your entire EA analysis of Gaga's orientation to relationships and sexuality is simply brilliant. It is this type of in depth and comprehensive understanding of any given Soul that demonstrates the capacity of EA itself.

Everything stood out for me, and I would suggest that the entire group here read it through.

God Bless, Rad
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