Hi all, so here are some basic observations - this is to offer perspective on the nature of the soul of Greeley, his continuation as Romney, the relationship between Greeley and Lincoln and just general things I am learning about these two souls and their current life dynamics.
Greeley changed his political and social stances so radically so many times and seemed to be an opportunist (ie running for president for a party he originally opposed). With his natal skipped step signatures, clearly these are old time dynamics he brought into the life of Greeley. With the sn in Pisces in the 9th and Neptune in sag in the 5th squaring Pluto in Pisces in the 8th this soul had his own ego complex in wishing to merge with some sort of larger than life vision that he can represent. The skipped step dynamics in his chart shows his use of data in ways that alienated others and were applied in inappropriate ways. The seeming paradox within this soul is that on the one hand he was incredibly knowledgeable about the politics of his nation - he was incredibly on point with knowing what was going on and very often had what was considered brilliant ideas - and yet his use of words throughout his life demonstrated that he lacked discrimination about what to say when and to whom and how. There also seems to have been a strong "hit or miss" dynamic within this soul - saying something with such conviction which will either make total sense and be incredibly useful/insightful/socially relevant - or just being self and other convincing and his words being irrelevant or non tactful for the circumstances while putting way too much confidence and faith into himself.
An example of that is the famous letter he wrote to lincoln in an editorial in his newspaper the new york tribune, which he created. He was both well educated and knowledgeable about the times, and yet based on these core unfulfilled power needs, he increasingly manipulated his circumstances. This article, which includes segments of Greeley's letter to Lincolns reflects all of this beautifully:
http://www.authorama.com/life-of-abraham-lincoln-32.htmlIn that article Lincon's simple response is quoted below his letter. Lincoln said clearly that his stance had nothing to do with freeing the slaves - but rather with keeping the union together. He wrote that that was his purpose first and his actions regarding freeing or not freeing the slaves will be linked to what supports the restoration of the union.
Lincoln, in his incredibly thoughtful policial career, was icnredibly careful about how he spoke about his political stance on slavery. His actual nature was that he never once supported it. And yet it was a matter of proper timing when it was RIGHT to publicly announce his stance. The emancipation proclamation, which refocused the war on the idea of freeing the slaves, was made just later that year. Apparantly the first draft had already been written by the time that Lincoln wrote his response to Greeley. Lincoln was just waiting for the right moment to present it.
From wiki. This is Lincoln's letter to greeley's criticism's (also in that above article) and a commentary on it which supports what I am starting to grasp about this soul.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emancipation_Proclamation"If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. . . . I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men everywhere could be free.[31]"
Lincoln scholar Harold Holzer wrote in this context about Lincoln's letter: "Unknown to Greeley, Lincoln composed this after he had already drafted a preliminary Emancipation Proclamation, which he had determined to issue after the next Union military victory. Therefore, this letter, was in truth, an attempt to position the impending announcement in terms of saving the Union, not freeing slaves as a humanitarian gesture. It was one of Lincoln’s most skillful public relations efforts, even if it has cast longstanding doubt on his sincerity as a liberator."[32] Historian Richard Striner argues that "for years" Lincoln's letter has been misread as "Lincoln only wanted to save the Union." [33] However, within the context of Lincoln's entire career and pronouncements on slavery this interpretation is wrong, according to Striner. Rather, Lincoln was softening the strong Northern white supremacist opposition to his imminent emancipation by tying it to the cause of the Union. This opposition would fight for the Union but not to end slavery, however Lincoln gave them the means and motivation to do both, at the same time. The urging to free all slaves was present to Lincoln in public and private. A mass rally in Chicago on September 7, 1862, demanded an immediate and universal emancipation of slaves.
And here is a (wacky) video of the proclimation itself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky4UDNSoUvM&feature=relatedThis was the nature of Greeley - he lacked higher perspective and was blinded by his own narcissitic needs for self gloriciation - to be the one with the answers, and thus jumped on any opportunity to criticize Lincoln whenever he disagreed.
There was within this soul an increasingly degraded capacity to be honest with his own self. As per a strong Sag karmic dynamic - when he begins to point his finger towards others pointing out their lack of integrity, he then is faced with all of his own inconsistencies. And he simply did not acknowledge them, but rather, throughout his entire life dug a deeper and deeper hole.
This fascinatingly leading to the life of Romney, based on these unresolved desires within Greely to be recongized and in so doing to prove certain others as wrong (such as lincoln) and do better this time to be credible, to be less sloppy to have a stronger social presence and esteme. He has developed a strong desire to enter into this life and has become increasingly darker as he has learned to do whatever it takes to be in the right and to convince others of what he thinks is right to the point where it seems like this soul has almost completely loss touch with natural ethics.
I think in the deep history of this soul is a natural intuition and strong capacity to see the larger picture. And yet the separating desires linked to his own need to be seen and heard has lead to a gradual diminishing of that natural intuition. Point in case the fact that Romney almost every day is saying the most absurd stuff that reflects the need to say or do anything that will further his own agenda. The choices that Greeley made in his life is a clear demonstration of what happens when a soul chooses to not cooperate with evolution.
Rad are you able to speak to the prior lives of this soul, before the life of Greeley? I ask so as to gain more perspective on how this soul has gradually resisted evolutionary necessity - the actual psychological process of resistance to the point where it has eventually manifested as Romney.
As you've indicated in the thread on Romney, this soul has created a track record for itsself to the point that in a soon life the soul will have the opportunity to sign a contract with evil.
In the natal chart of Greeley, lucifer was combust his own Sun in Aquarius in the 7th house and semi square the sn in Pisces in the 9th.
Greeley's own Mercury retrograde in Aquarius squares lincolns nodes. My sense is editorial magazines kind of fall into the Mercury in Aquarius archetype (like how the internet is today?) transmitting media through a free access of knowledge and speech. So seeking to undermine Lincoln's vision by way of his use of words. Greeley's Aquarius Sun and Lucifer also squares lincoln's nodes. Note the square dynamic is focused on Lincoln's NN and Uranus in Scorpio in the 9th, which is the exact place of Obama's currnet life Neptune.
Rad above, your pdf you intended for the composite of "greeley obama" was just greeley's chart - below is their composite chart.
One more thing is becoming blatantly clear to me. How in the same way that Lincoln was politically suave about revealing his true nature - but was also effected and needed to seive through all kinds of political projections and points of views, Obama is in the same boat. It shows me that, just like Lincoln, there are profoundly universally ethics that Obama supports and that he is likely VERY aware of where the country is going - what natural changes are and need to happen. And when the time is right it will be the RIGHT moment to speak to what he is really here to do. If he can do that - that is also his challenge.
His purpose is far greater than healthcare. What I learned todady, as indicated above, is that Lincoln waited something like half a year until he announced the emancipation proclamation after having created the first draft of it. He strategically waited until the next military victory to release the proclamation. This soul knew what he was doing. Amazing to watch all of this unfold now.
With love,
Ari Moshe
