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Title: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Dec 18, 2016, 03:28 PM
I was an EA student back in 1999 so am out of the loop re JWG’s current involvement in EA but have been wondering what he would make of this election and its aftermath. Re-listened to his 2005 Sedona youtubes and everything he mentioned on them applies to now, only a hundred-fold.

Really wishing he would either write or record an audio (if that’s even possible) about this new person in power, as this feels like a turning point in the earth’s evolution. I think we could all use a dose of his wisdom and perspective right about now.

Thanks.


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Skywalker on Dec 19, 2016, 04:06 AM
Hi Soleil,

We spoke a little bit about Trump being elected in the skipped steps thread, below is a link to the correct page:

http://schoolofevolutionaryastrology.com/forum/index.php/topic,1312.75.html

All the best



Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Dec 19, 2016, 12:12 PM
Hi Skywalker,

Thanks for pointing me towards the skipped steps thread. That was helpful.

I also wanted to add a few notes I jotted from JWG’s Sedona talk in 2005, which are relevant to what’s happening now and which I feel are powerful reminders:

“Do everything you can to not let yourself sink (Saturn) into that state of negativity, because that’s the breeding ground of evil.”
 
“We have to fight as strongly as we can within ourselves to want to know God and to join hands with other people that have the same desire, in such a way as to operate as a counterpoint, a counter-force to this evil. Because in the end, God is stronger than evil and in the end God will win.”

“One of the intentions of evil is to create such a psychological state of futility that we just get into a state of self-defeat and we don’t do the things we need to do to counteract these forces, number one of which is to do something within your personal spiritual life to continually try to access God.”
 
“Make the effort every single day---knowing what’s on the line---to find that inner feeling of God within yourself and try to join forces with like-minded others.”
 
“Don’t give up the ship. continue to walk on.”
 
“Continue to fight for what is right. Everything on earth has a limit, and these creeps have a limit. The scales will be balanced. There WILL be a reaction, so keep hanging on. We will get there.”


Thank you all for your analysis and insights. It is taking everything I have to deal with and counteract the evil that is happening on a widespread level, as this evil vibrates at a level that my body translates as poison. However, I refuse to match my energy level to it. I will continue to consciously intend to vibrate my energy at the level of truth---let evil match THAT.

Thanks to all of you.

Soleil







Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Skywalker on Dec 19, 2016, 12:42 PM
Hi Soleil,

Thank you for posting those quotes from JWG, as he says, "the scales will be balanced" it´s simply a matter of time and all of us doing whatever we can, from within and in our daily lives. The small things really count, specially now with the North Node in Virgo.

And yea, TRUTH is what sets us free and what will prevail in the end.

Thanks again

All the best


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Jan 21, 2017, 10:37 PM
Skywalker,

Thanks for your response. Just re-read the part of the skipped steps thread related to this topic (needed a morale boost after yesterday’s inauguration of this mentally disturbed sociopath) and thought I would repost some inspiring comments made by you and by Rad.

From Skywalker:
 
“Faith that good will prevail sooner or later as our bottom line is my bottom line. Knowing that gives me peace because it is TRUE. We are not from this plane of existence and are all a living, conscious spark of the Source and will return to that Source where nothing can happen to us. Remember that and don’t let the fear or despair take over your emotions and psyche. That is what evil wants. Our power lies in our CHOICES and these choices are ongoing in our lives on a moment to moment basis. Each choice can lead to a stronger sense of empowerment if those choices are responsible, intelligent and based in truth.”
 
From Rad:
 
“If you must stand 'as a group of one' because of the circumstances of your life, inwardly defined by the natural laws, desiring to help others in the best ways you can at any moment in time, this makes the 'natural god' smile big. And, in the end, standing as a group of one in this way will progressively strengthen your Soul.”

“It takes a concerted, focused, and determined Soul to face evil head on, and do all that can be done to minimize its influence on oneself, others, and the planet. To not do so allows Evil to win....”
 
“The VALUE IS ALWAYS IN THE EFFORT. And that effort sustained over time can only help to defeat the evil that has now descended in the form of Trump. All of us must do what we can do according to our natures. Hitler and the evil of his Soul committed suicide in the end because because of the individual/ collective effort to defeat that evil. It is not time to hide and shrink, it is time to take action.”

 
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People like Trump usually end up hoisting themselves on their own petard. Am hoping that happens and that no one gets hurt by him in the meantime. Amazing how much chaos and misery one person can create.

A word of gratitude to Rad for posting such excellent articles about this lunatic and his cronies. The articles always cut to the heart of exactly what’s going on and are truly the most accurate, thorough and incisive collection of information on the topic I’ve seen on the web. Thank you so much, Rad.

Soleil



Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Taurus Moon on Jan 24, 2017, 07:20 PM
Coulnd't resist... :) When humor stands as an antidote to evil forces.
Great archetypal and funny dramatization
Gypsie


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-xxis7hDOE


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Jan 25, 2017, 09:14 PM
Thanks, Gypsie. That was hilarious and spot-on. Glad to see that others around the world get how insane Trump is and are making fun of (instead of normalizing) him.

You’re right---humor helps.

Soleil


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Skywalker on Jan 26, 2017, 02:28 AM
Hi Soleil,

Glad you got something from what Rad and I wrote.

All the best



Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: dollydaydream on Jan 26, 2017, 07:22 AM
Hi all.  Relative to the resistance against the evil that is Trump, it is bursting with new life and enthusiasm.  My brother and I went to the Women's March in Washington and I have never experienced anything like it in my life.  The Positive, Enthusiastic, Beautiful, Strong, Feminine Energy that was pulsating through the crowd was unlike anything I have ever felt.  Zero anger and plenty of Humor.  Donald Trump and his sycophants should be very, very worried.


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Jan 26, 2017, 08:54 PM
Hi Dollydaydream, 

That’s awesome that you went to the Womens’ March. It’s great to see so many people take action---it’s what’s needed.

Soleil


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: NicolasMark on Feb 09, 2017, 09:10 AM
Are you talking about USA President Election here?


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Feb 11, 2017, 02:27 PM
Yes, the U.S. presidential election.


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Helena on Mar 19, 2017, 03:37 PM
Hi all,

just found this article and thought about sharing it as it is so simple yet so to the point, think it worths reading.

Bellow is the transcript, and can be found here http://idler.co.uk/article/is-trump-the-devil/

"Is Trump the Devil?

For the last few months, I’ve had a copy of Professor Keith Thomas’s Religion and the Decline of Magic by my bed. It’s a magnificent study of the popularity of witchcraft and magic in the 16th and 17th centuries, and investigates how organised religion dealt with the threat posed to it by the “cunning” men and women of the shires, who went around with potions and charms, and promised to find lost goods and avenge bad neighbours.
The book was a particular inspiration to novelist Hilary Mantel, who called it “monumental” and has said it’s the book she has recommended to friends more than any other.
The other night one particular observation leapt out at me. It was that the Devil held a particular fascination for those who were really suffering. Prof Thomas cited a few examples of poor folk to who the Devil had appeared in the street, and promised them a shilling if they would join his team. Witches, he said, tended to come from the desperate classes. The cogs in my addled brain started to whirr. I remembered a Trump voter saying to camera, when asked why he was voting for this nutcase: “Trump’s gonna make me rich!”
Then I read the following line in the book:
“For persons in a state of hopelessness, attachment to the Devil symbolized their alienation from a society to which they had little cause to be grateful.”
So it seems clear to me that voters were so weakened, so hopeless, that they resorted to worshipping the Devil, with all his false promises to give them money, avenge their enemies and sort out their problems. Devils can be attractive and charismatic characters, too. Therefore you could argue that Trump is the Devil. Doubtless we could come up with further proof to boot, for example, his devilish approval of cruelty and torture.
But the main point is, to rephrase Prof Thomas, that attachment to Trump symbolizes a mass alienation from a system for which many Americans have little cause to be grateful. However, the previous overlords of society, the neo-liberals, can also be blamed for creating a situation where the people resorted to Devil worship out of desperation. In a sense, they themselves created Trumpism and Trump-worship.
The problem is, Trump is now the President of the United States. So help me God."

All the best,
Helena


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Mar 22, 2017, 02:21 PM
Hi Helena,

Thanks for that article. I do think that people with evil intent go after the weak, the uninformed, and those who are most easily brainwashed.

In the case of Trump, I don’t think his base is comprised of people who are suffering the most. According to stats, the average salary of his voters is $72,000.

Trump appealed to people with strong racist and misogynist tendencies (they would never vote for a woman president), and that’s something an evil person knows how to exploit.

In the end, Hillary only lost by the slimmest of margins---about 70,000 votes across three states---and if not for the Comey letter 11 days before the election and if not for the Russians hacking the DNC and giving the hacked emails to Wikileaks, she most likely would have won.

He did not win legitimately. That’s why the Russia story is so important and may prove to be his undoing. We’ve only hit the tip of the iceberg.

What’s so devastating about having Trump in the White House is that not only is he evil and a crook and a conman, he’s also clinically insane. And he has surrounded himself with the most evil, crooked, and mentally unbalanced people on the planet, including the spineless, ethics-challenged Republicans, who are going right along with all the insanity.

In any case, the guy has to go. I don’t know how or when, but, for the sake of the entire world, I’m praying it’s soon.

Soleil


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Helena on Mar 23, 2017, 05:40 AM
Hi Soleil,

Yes, i agree with you, many things contributed to it. I posted the article simply because coming across it quite randomly i found it very interesting if we look at it from an EA perspective, and also the historical context.
But also lets not forget that the ones suffering the most probably are not even registered to vote and sometimes people can actually experience tremendous suffering (in a delusional perspective) for not having enough power, money or recognition when comparing itself to ones that are more rich, powerful and influent (and someone to blame for not having this). In any case, yes, the ones that are really suffering would be the actual wounded.
The good thing is that not everyone will take it and many actions are out there to prove there is a choice. And as it has been said so many times here in the MB, it starts with individual choice to stand firm and do something about it, as best we can.

All the best,
Helena


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Mar 23, 2017, 04:02 PM
Hi Helena,

I agree with everything you said. You’re right, there are people out there taking action and, as you said, it starts with an individual choice to stand firm and do whatever we can.

Thanks again for the article and for your thoughts---I appreciate your input.

All the best,

Soleil


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Skywalker on Mar 24, 2017, 06:12 AM
Make America Great Again!


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Mar 30, 2017, 08:32 PM
Thanks for that, Skywalker. I have fantasies of my own regarding making America great again---they involve having the insane orange one impeached and him and his cohorts being jailed for corruption.

You never know....stranger things have happened.

Soleil


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Skywalker on Mar 31, 2017, 05:21 AM
Hi Soleil,

I don´t know about him being impeached or not but if you look at is upcoming transits he is most probably going to find himself amidst some stiff opposition as transiting Saturn in Sagittarius is going to station almost to the minute on his natal Moon and South Node as it also opposes his natal Sun in Gemini. To me this will correlate, amongst other potential experiences, to him being highly opposed by people and organizations/structures because of his total lack of honesty and because of his total disdain for nature and natural laws. It seems like he might be pinned up against a wall as all the lies and destructive policies can catch up with him at that time. He is so divorced from reality and so utterly self serving and plain evil that people simply won´t stand for it.

To me there is a very positive side to the "Trump phenomena" which is that so much of this evil system based on destroying the earth and all life forms simply for the pursuit of profit is each time more exposed to the public. This causes an instinctive reaction in people who have an innate sense of right and wrong who will join together and find strategies to counter these types of evil.

Trump is not the problem, Trump is merely a symptom of the deeper layers of a broken system reaching fundamentally to the core which is human ignorance and a total avoidance of personal responsibility people have for their lives. The whole system is based on deceit and people giving their power away to be centralized in the hands of sick people. Trump is bringing this to light thru intensifying evil yet also making it more evident and undeniable.

Now it´s up to us to step up our game and stick together, stick to truth and align with natural laws as much as we can.

All the best


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Mar 31, 2017, 05:31 AM
Hi Soleil and Skywalker

The transiting Neptune in now conjunct shitstain Trump's N.Node of Lucifer in his 7th House which is inconjunct his natl Pluto in the 12th. That Pluto is conjunct his S.Node of Lucifer.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Mar 31, 2017, 01:41 PM
Hi Rad and Skywalker,

Skywalker, thanks for your analysis of his upcoming transits---it’s spot on. You’re right, I think this upcoming Saturn transit may be difficult for him for the reasons you mentioned. I just wonder if he will be able to continue to ignore/invalidate/pretend it’s not happening. So far, he’s managed to shrug off every scandal as if he’s made of teflon.

I agree with you that the silver lining here is that the public (at least that portion of it that believes in actual truth) is now becoming more aware of the underlying evil system that the Republican party pushes and that it is activating people like never before.

It’s also bringing to light that the system of government the founders of the constitution created has gaping holes in it---as in, the checks and balances are now failing in a way they never have before. Maybe some new amendments will come out of this to make sure those checks and balances are much stronger in the future.

Rad, the Neptune/Lucifer/Pluto transit you mentioned is fascinating. I hadn’t looked at that yet but when I read what you wrote it sent shivers up and down my spine. Could be very intense. I hope it cracks something open. Maybe it won’t allow him to just keep tefloning everything off anymore?

By the way, Rad, thank you so much for the awesome articles you post about this clown---they are thorough and always go the heart of the matter. I appreciate the effort involved.

All the best,

Soleil


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Skywalker on Apr 01, 2017, 04:49 AM
Hi Soleil and Rad,

Soleil, I don´t know what will effectively happen with Trump but what i sense is that as Saturn Rx´s back and opposes his Sun and conjoins his Moon and S. node, is that there are forces, structures, groups of people who are currently organizing themselves and preparing to confront him and his policies because of his duplicity and dishonesty and total lack of respect for the environment. The media might also be all over him at that time in ways that get to him and also the potential of women or groups of women standing up to him. That transiting Saturn stationing so exactly on his Moon is very graphic. I would say he is also currently feeling the pressure and stress of being in office as transiting Uranus is squaring his natal Saturn. His health "care" bill was rejected. He has so many transits showing a need to adjust and face reality that it´s very possible he is either highly blocked in his agenda or even removed somehow, but we will have to wait a few months to see what really happens.

To me the silver lining is more about capitalism and corporate greed and government corruption which becomes exposed as people become aware of these dynamics and then try to adjust. Some then turn more towards natural law and join together in order to be inclusive instead of exclusive.


Rad,

Thanks for pointing out those symbols. Would you say that from the point of view of evil that the North node of Lucifer in the Seventh House correlates with evil wanting to create the maximum imbalance possible in order to create extreme harm to people and the environment? And from the point of view of the Source, Neptune, to make his evil intentions apparent to the collective so others can oppose him?

He also has transiting Pluto in the Fifth House opposite his natal Lucifer in the Eleventh House. From the point of view of evil fused with his consciousness, it seems like he may even have a subconscious or not so subconscious desire to harm, suck their resources dry or even eliminate groups of people, women and children, people of other races etc and cause trauma to them.

Thank you

All the best


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Apr 01, 2017, 07:03 AM
Hi Soleil and Skywalker

"Could be very intense. I hope it cracks something open. Maybe it won’t allow him to just keep tefloning everything off anymore?"

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The 'tefloing' relative to the ongoing exposure of all the underlying psychological dynamics, the nature of his actual desires that equal his personal reality that is defined by those dynamics, will of course be progressive that has and will set in motion a progressive rebellion, natal Lucifer in Cancer in the 11th House conjunct his Venus and Saturn, will accelerate within America, and the world, Saturn, itself. So that teflon will penetrated and blown apart.

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Rad,

Thanks for pointing out those symbols. Would you say that from the point of view of evil that the North node of Lucifer in the Seventh House correlates with evil wanting to create the maximum imbalance possible in order to create extreme harm to people and the environment? And from the point of view of the Source, Neptune, to make his evil intentions apparent to the collective so others can oppose him?

************

Yes. And it is necessary to see that not only does that N.Node of Lucifer inconjunct his Pluto, S.Node of Lucifer in Leo at 5 degrees, which is then ruled by his Gemini Sun conjunct Uranus and the Lunar North Node, but that it is ruled by his Neptune in Libra in the 2nd, which conjuncts Juno, Chiron, and Jupiter, that itself is then ruled by his natal Venus conjunct Saturn but also CONJUNCTS HIS NATAL LUCIFER. That N.Node of Lucifer is also square his Moon and Lunar Nodal Axis.

What is also incredible to see in all this is that Putin's own natal Lucifer in in Libra in his 11th which is conjunct his Sun, Saturn, and Mercury, and square his Uranus in Cancer in the 8th. That then conjuncts Trumps Lucifer, Venus, Saturn. Putin's Lucifer etc then conjunct Trumps 2nd House Libra stuff. Trump's Mars is then conjunct Putin's Lunar South Node with is 1 degree of Virgo. Pig Putin's N.Node of Lucifer is 26 degrees of Capricorn in his 2nd House which then conjuncts his S.Nodes of Pluto and Saturn which then all refer back to his natal Saturn in Libra in his 11th conjunct natal Lucifer, Sun, Mercury, and Neptune.

And just as Trump has the S.Node of Lucifer conjunct his Pluto, so does Putin. So, of course, in their composite chart they have Lucifer conjunct the Lunar S.Node.

As a note to consider: On election day in America the transiting Lunar South Node had just past the conjunction to shitstain Trumps N.Node of Lucifer, and the transiting Mars has just conjuncted Pig Putin's N.Node of Lucifer.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Apr 02, 2017, 01:11 AM
Hi Rad and Skywalker,

Skywalker, I agree that Saturn opposing Trump’s Sun and conjoining his Moon and S. Node should (hopefully) cause structures/groups to confront him. I hope you’re right, that the media will be all over him----some print media has been good but broadcast media has been almost totally co-opted and is infuriatingly complicit.

I don’t know if these Saturn transits will be enough of a jolt to cause him to unravel or whether it will take the upcoming Pluto and Uranus transits in 2020 (if he lasts that long) to remove him from office or to totally expose his corruption?

Correct me if I’m wrong, but it looks like transiting Pluto will be opposing his natal Saturn April 2019, Jan/Feb 2020, July/Aug. 2020, and transiting Uranus will begin squaring his natal Pluto July/Aug/Sep. 2020.

You’re right that as more corruption on every level gets exposed, it will be the catalyst needed for people to turn towards natural law and join together.

Rad,

Thanks so much for posting Trump’s and Putin’s charts. The parallels between their charts are amazing, especially the fact that they both have the S. Node of Lucifer conjunct their Pluto.

Interestingly, in the past week or two, there have been massive demonstrations in Russia, something Putin is deathly afraid of. I wonder if this could be the start of his undoing?

I was encouraged by the recent defeat of Geert Wilders in the Netherlands. Is there anything astrologically that shows the pendulum is now swinging away from this worldwide inhumane bigoted far right ideology?

Glad you said Trump’s teflon will be penetrated and blown apart. I think Bannon is the real evil genius behind the thrown. Trump is dumb, has no attention span and doesn’t read, whereas Bannon is pure evil but extremely clever. He is the one behind the detailed plan to destroy everything (from the State department to the EPA to Meals on Wheels and PBS).

Haven’t been able to find Bannon’s birth time. Would be interesting to see his transits as well, since he seems to be the foundation of this evil empire. Any thoughts on Bannon’s chart?

Thanks so much.

All the best,

Soleil


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Apr 03, 2017, 06:50 AM
Hi Soleil,

"Interestingly, in the past week or two, there have been massive demonstrations in Russia, something Putin is deathly afraid of. I wonder if this could be the start of his undoing?"

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I posted some articles today in the environmental thread exactly about this. It will be the youth in Russia now if there is any chance of this undoing. As you know Pig Putin has ABSOLUTE power and control in Russia killing or destroying anything/anyone who stand in his way.

**********

"I was encouraged by the recent defeat of Geert Wilders in the Netherlands. Is there anything astrologically that shows the pendulum is now swinging away from this worldwide inhumane bigoted far right ideology?"

*********

There is an ongoing Uranus transit in Aries that if forming ongoing squares to Pluto, and the Nodal Axis of Pluto and Saturn. This correlates directly with this ongoing rebellion. Geodedically Uranus correlates directly with Western Europe. The last time it was in Aries, and forming the same square to the Pluto/Saturn Nodal axis, Pluto in Cancer then, was in the 1930's. Of course that was the rise of Hitler, leading to WW2.

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"Glad you said Trump’s teflon will be penetrated and blown apart. I think Bannon is the real evil genius behind the thrown. Trump is dumb, has no attention span and doesn’t read, whereas Bannon is pure evil but extremely clever. He is the one behind the detailed plan to destroy everything (from the State department to the EPA to Meals on Wheels and PBS).

Haven’t been able to find Bannon’s birth time. Would be interesting to see his transits as well, since he seems to be the foundation of this evil empire. Any thoughts on Bannon’s chart?"

************

I don't know his chart at all. If you find out please let us know.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: MrMystiqueTanz on Apr 03, 2017, 07:32 AM
Possibility for Steve Bannon's birth date:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bannon
Early life, family and education

Stephen Kevin Bannon was born on November 27, 1953, in Norfolk, Virginia, to Doris (née Herr) and Martin Bannon, a telephone lineman, later in middle management.[25][26] His working class, Irish Catholic family were pro-Kennedy, pro-union Democrats.[27][28] After serving as president of the student government association,[29] he graduated from Virginia Tech in 1976 with a bachelor's degree in Urban Planning and holds a master's degree in National Security studies from Georgetown University School of Foreign Service. In 1985,[32] Bannon received a Master of Business Administration degree
with honors[33] from Harvard Business School.[34]

INTERESTING NOTE ON THAT WEBPAGE:
Lebanese-American author Nassim Nicholas Taleb, neoreactionary blogger Curtis Yarvin and conservative intellectual Michael Anton have been pointed out as 3 of the main influences in Steve Bannon's political thinking, alongside the William Strauss and Neil Howe book The Fourth Turning (which directly inspired Bannon's film Generation Zero).[121]


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Apr 03, 2017, 08:14 AM
Hi MrMystiqueTanz

Thanks for finding that data for Bannon. I am posting the chart below which is calculated for 12pm since there is no given birth time. Just like shitstain Trump and Pig Putin his S.Node of Lucifer is conjunct his natal Pluto with his Moon and asteroid Pallas: it is at 6 degrees Virgo as Putin's is at 1 degree Virgo. His N.Node of Lucifer is 0 Aquarius whereas Putin's is 26 Capricorn: in essence the Lucifer Nodal Axis is conjunct for them both. Bannon's Lunar North Node at 25 Capricorn is thus conjunct Putin's N.Node of Lucifer as well. His natal Lucifer being at 14 Capricorn conjuncts his S. Nodes of Pluto and Saturn as well. I remember reading somewhere that he actually compared himself to Satan relative to what he called 'real power'.

Bannon's S.Node of Lucifer is also conjunct shitstain Trumps Mars.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Apr 03, 2017, 07:32 PM
Hi Rad and MrMystiqueTanz,

MMTanz, thanks for the info on Bannon. Have a feeling his documentary, Generation Zero, would be an interesting look into his psyche, but probably chilling as hell. Not sure I’m ready to go there.

Rad,

Thanks for posting Bannon’s chart. So interesting that his S. Node of Lucifer is also conjunct his Pluto, same as Trump and Putin (had a feeling it would be), and that his S. Node of Lucifer is conjunct Trump’s Mars. I find the positioning of Trump’s Mars so telling----the way it just sits there smack dab on the Ascendant.

You’re right, Bannon did compare himself to Satan. The quote was “Dick Cheney. Darth Vader. Satan. That’s real power.” The reason I think he’s particularly evil is that, not only is he in it for the power and money, as all the rest are, but he also gets pleasure out of destroying. He views the entire world stage as a giant video game and the goal is to see how much of it he can destroy.

He has been quoted as saying “I want to bring everything crashing down,” and that he chose these particular cabinet picks in order to “destroy the administrative state”. He has also said that he expects and, in effect, welcomes, World War III and that he relishes the hatred his name conjures up.

Although Jeff Sessions looks like a powerless weasel, he is also evil through and through and he and Bannon have been in cahoots for years, dreaming this whole destruction thing up. A good (but long) article on their connection:
“Department of Justification”, NY Times, Feb 28, 2017
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/28/magazine/jeff-sessions-stephen-bannon-justice-department.html?_r=0

Interestingly, Bannon was charged with domestic violence 20 years ago against his ex-wife. Maybe he will eventually be brought down by something non-political like that. I hope and pray so....he is unbelievably dangerous.

Re the Russian demonstrations, thanks for the article you posted. You’re so right that Putin destroys anything that gets in his way, which is why I’m worried that Navalny---a brave soul---will be poisoned or “accidentally” thrown off a 4-story building (as the Magnitsky family attorney recently was) if he keeps making waves. As you said, it will be the young people who make the difference.

Thanks for your analysis of the ongoing Uranus transit in Aries. So interesting that the last time Uranus was in Aries forming the same square to the Pluto/Saturn nodal axis was the 1930’s. I think the upcoming French election will be pivotal. If Marine Le Pen does not get elected and if Angela Merkel can continue to stay in office, this thing may be able to get turned around. If you see anything revealing re the upcoming transits in the charts for France and Germany, I would love to know.

Thanks so much.

All the best,

Soleil


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Skywalker on Apr 04, 2017, 01:44 AM
Hi All,

Soleil,

"Correct me if I’m wrong, but it looks like transiting Pluto will be opposing his natal Saturn April 2019, Jan/Feb 2020, July/Aug. 2020, and transiting Uranus will begin squaring his natal Pluto July/Aug/Sep. 2020."

I think it´s too early to look into those transits and best wait to see what will happen now and these upcoming months with the Saturn transits. Hopefully it´s not only about Trump falling but about people raising their awareness against these types of people with these power dynamics, and to change direction for someone more like Bernie Sanders as a leader. With that said he will also have transiting Pluto inconjunct the Sun at the same time as transiting Pluto opposite Saturn and transiting Saturn will also be conjunct that transiting Pluto and inconjunct his Sun.


Rad,

If it´s o.k. to ask, have Putin and Bannon also made a contract?

Thank you

All the best


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Apr 04, 2017, 06:41 AM
Hi Skywalker,

Yes they have.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: dollydaydream on Apr 04, 2017, 08:16 AM
Hi all, I have been thinking about Neptune and the feeling of compassion as something that arises naturally in response to the witnessing of suffering in others, including the earth and its countless lifeforms.  Are evil people capable of compassion or is it non-existent in these people?  Does anyone know?  Thanks. DDD


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Apr 04, 2017, 08:20 AM
Hi DDD,

It is non-existent. The opposite is true: a sadistic enjoyment of those that suffer.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Apr 04, 2017, 09:02 AM
Hi Soleil and Skywalker,

One of the things I just remembered that JWG said about the destiny of America was that, one day, it would become isolated by the world that would then cause the entire 'self image' of America, and the people in it, to change: how it and they see themselves because of that isolation. He wrote that way back when he first wrote the first Pluto book in the early 1980's. It was written within the Pluto in the 10th House or Capricorn chapter. Given that the USA's natal Pluto is in Capricorn in opposition to Mercury retrograde in Cancer, the polarity for Pluto in Capricorn being Cancer of course, this is now what is underway because of the evil of Trump, and the evil enablers like Bannon that he has surrounded himself with.

Trump's natal Saturn, Lucifer, and Venus in fact conjunct America's Mercury retro in Cancer in it's 3rd House, and in OPPOSITION to it's natal Pluto. In American's chart that Mercury retrograde is ruled by it's Moon in Aquarius in the 10th House. And, yes, that Moon is then conjunct it's NATAL LUCIFER. Both it's Moon and Lucifer are then conjunct the S.Node of Neptune.

On election day last year the transiting Pluto was also exactly conjunct Bannon's natal Lucifer, and transiting Lucifer was square Trump's natal Saturn, Venus, and Lucifer. And, check this, the transiting N.Node of Lucifer was at 26 Capricorn, and the S.Node at 6 Virgo: Putin's own N.Node of Lucifer, and Bannon's and Putin's S.Node of Lucifer. And, again, the transiting Mars on that day was on that N.Node of Lucifer.

You can't make this stuff up. This is the actual documentation and manifestation of how Evil works.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Apr 04, 2017, 06:46 PM
Hi Rad and Skywalker,

Skywalker, I echo your sentiment about hoping we can have a Bernie Sanders type candidate next time. I just hope that next time Russia/Putin does not succeed in disseminating false negative stories about our candidate like it did this last time.

Rad,

Thanks for pointing out the Pluto in Cap dynamic in the U.S. chart that JWG wrote about. With Trump at the helm, seems we may no longer be looked at as the leader of the free world, and, as you pointed out, that change in status will eventually force the U.S. to develop a new self-image.

You also wrote:

“On election day last year the transiting Pluto was also exactly conjunct Bannon's natal Lucifer, and transiting Lucifer was square Trump's natal Saturn, Venus, and Lucifer. And, check this, the transiting N.Node of Lucifer was at 26 Capricorn, and the S.Node at 6 Virgo: Putin's own N.Node of Lucifer, and Bannon's and Putin's S.Node of Lucifer. And, again, the transiting Mars on that day was on that N.Node of Lucifer.”

Wow. That alignment on election day is stunning. Still thinking about what you wrote the other day about the last time transiting Uranus was in Aries and forming the same square to the Pluto/Saturn Nodal axis (when Pluto was in Cancer) was the 1930’s. I’m hoping that our collective souls have evolved since that time....at least enough to stop some of these people from the destruction they have planned.

Thanks for your insights.

All the best,

Soleil



Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Skywalker on Apr 05, 2017, 04:34 AM
Hi Rad,

I find it so interesting that they all have the South Node of Lucifer conjunct Pluto and made a contract with evil. All the symbols you shared are mind boggling, you really can´t make this stuff up!

For anyone reading thou, it´s important to note that just because people may have that same aspect of the South Node of Lucifer or Lucifer itself conjunct Pluto, that doesn´t necessarily mean that the person has made such a contract and one can only confirm such a phenomena thru direct perception.

With that said I have a question about if someone suspects that another person has made a contract with evil and desires or needs to find out, would staring into their eyes with the desire to know the truth be enough to reveal the cat eye? And what if someone has doubts about whether they have made a contract themselves, is there a way to know, such as asking inwardly for proof?

Relative to America being each time more isolated, to me Trump is going to accelerate this process as many other nations are sick of America´s imperialism and see Trump as a self serving con man or clown. His ongoing Saturn transit to his Moon, S.Node and Sun can reflect this fact of other nations isolating America because of Trump. I think one of the main things that will be his downfall or that will unite people against him is his total lack of ethics/honesty, his conflicts of interest and going against the environment for those same self serving interests.

Thank you Rad, because this topic is not the lightest but it´s so important to shed light on it.

All the best, love and gratitude


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Apr 05, 2017, 05:02 AM
Hi Skywalker

First, thanks for pointing out that when the S.Node of Lucifer is conjunct someone's Pluto that it does not automatically mean that a contract with evil has occurred. We must remember as JWG taught that the asteroid Lucifer also correlates to the 'bearer of light' or what many wish to call God/ess. And that is because that Source Of All Things is just that: the Source Of All Things. Thus, it is also the Source for that which is called Evil.

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"With that said I have a question about if someone suspects that another person has made a contract with evil and desires or needs to find out, would staring into their eyes with the desire to know the truth be enough to reveal the cat eye?"

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Not necessarily because a Soul that has made the contract with Evil will do, most of the time, almost anything to avoid others knowing that it has. Thus, concealing the eyes, not allowing for a direct, sustained, looking into their eyes, and so forth occurs. Most folks who simply have a 'knowing' or a 'feeling' that a Soul who has made such a contract is 'evil': that there is something wrong or not quite right about them. Intense feelings of uneasiness, a sense of fear or extreme caution, typically occurs. A instinct to get away, to steer clear of such a Soul manifests that, of itself, does not translate into a thought or idea that 'hey, this soul has made a contract with evil'.

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 "And what if someone has doubts about whether they have made a contract themselves, is there a way to know, such as asking inwardly for proof?"

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A soul that has made such a contract knows it in their soul because of the increasing sense of 'supernatural' power that they have to make things happen, to have their desires actualize in contrast to most other humans who live normal lives in which some of their desires seems to be able to manifest, others don't: they most do not simply have the ability to actualize whatever it that they desire whereas those who have made the contract do.

Trump is a perfect example this. His stupid 'make America first' orientation to the world really is a metaphor for making his own soul first which is why he is a narcissistic psychopath. One of the archetypal correlations to those who have made a contract with evil is just that: psychopathic and narcissistic. 

God Bless, Rad



Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: dollydaydream on Apr 05, 2017, 05:27 AM
Hi Rad, thanks for your reply.  It's difficult to contemplate a life without compassion.  If you cannot feel sorrow at the witnessing of others' suffering, how on earth can you feel joy at witnessing others' happiness?  What a miserable existence...


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Apr 05, 2017, 05:35 AM
Hi DDD,

Yes, indeed. The very nature/ essence of evil.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Apr 05, 2017, 02:03 PM
Hi Rad,

Re a soul who has made a contract with evil, does this sense that they have the power to make things happen wane or shift at some point in their evolution, eventually causing them to stumble and unravel? I assume it would not lead them to ever questions themselves, as that seems impossible for these types?

Also, these souls seem to have the power to brainwash people or to bring people under their spell, as Trump seems to do (which I find stupefying, as to me he seems a delusional brainless twat). No matter what he says or does, his hardcore base continues to defend and believe him.

What would it take for that hardcore base to finally be able to see that he truly is a psychopathic narcissistic liar who doesn't care about them AT ALL? Or are they always likely to remain deluded (as he is) and continue to defend and believe him?

Thanks so much.

All the best,

Soleil


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Helena on Apr 05, 2017, 05:29 PM
Hi Everyone,

I've been reading your recent posts and really appreciate all inputs in clarifying this madness. Seeing it all in such clear facts it is very valuable, so thank you Rad for posting the charts and pointing it.

Rad, I've noticed that in all three evil charts the galactic center point at 28 (or26?) Sagittarius is significantly active. Taking this is not a 'coincidence', would there be any more to consider besides the fact that this is more a symbol/confirmation of the destruction of the planet and natural resources, violation of natural law, that their actions represent?
I keep remembering what was mentioned by JWG, and here in the MB, that evil actions are always trying to create the opposite of light/the bearer of light, so the chart alone can represent whatever the soul chooses to do with it, and that sometimes can create much confusion and disorientation when we look at a chart. In the end it will be about actions and the effects of those actions i suppose, but it is very strange to see a point like the galactic center so active in people that just want to destroy earth itself.

Also, about Neptune, and how it can correlate to collective delusional state, i saw recently a scene in the film "20th Century Women" that does a such a good representation of it. I know very little about american politics, so i have to say i wouldn't grasp the impact Jimmy Carter's speech had at the time, but seeing now in 2017 it makes us question what happened since the 70's in America and the world, because the speech could have been given  today.  (link to the scene here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxcvng_CpMQ )
One of the answers can be that be people as a collective (can we see it as the archetypal realm of neptune?), have been avoiding the truth until it can be no more. It is much more easy to say like in the film ("he is so screwed...") than confront our own illusions with actual reality. That is, in my view, the main reason why people elect 'saviours'. How can someone in times like we have been living in, survive by saying the truth, that we have to change our habits, our ideas, our ways of living, that is a very difficult thing, of course. Like Skywalker mentioned, only when criminals like trump step to power positions in democratic countries can people see (and this can be very positive) things as they are, because the abuse is so evident that there is no other choice. Hopefully. But also, i think, because in the times we live now, and the way we can communicate if we live in a relatively free part of world it becomes a matter of personal consciousness  and accountability to determine were we stand. It is not that we can easily close and cover our (or everyone else's) eyes and ears anymore...

All the Best,
Helena


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Apr 06, 2017, 06:33 AM
Hi Soleil,

" a soul who has made a contract with evil, does this sense that they have the power to make things happen wane or shift at some point in their evolution, eventually causing them to stumble and unravel? I assume it would not lead them to ever questions themselves, as that seems impossible for these types?"

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No, they do not stumble or unravel because of the very nature of the contract with Evil. On the other hand, some who have made such a contract try to undo or unravel it. When this is the case such soul's typically try to form relationships or alliances with other soul's whom they perceive to be 'bearers of light'. In so doing they they try to mimic the behavior of such souls thinking they can 'trick' they way out of the contract. But, in the end, this does not work. Once the contract is made it is irrevocable.

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"Also, these souls seem to have the power to brainwash people or to bring people under their spell, as Trump seems to do (which I find stupefying, as to me he seems a delusional brainless twat). No matter what he says or does, his hardcore base continues to defend and believe him.

What would it take for that hardcore base to finally be able to see that he truly is a psychopathic narcissistic liar who doesn't care about them AT ALL? Or are they always likely to remain deluded (as he is) and continue to defend and believe him?"

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It would take such souls to admit that that they are wrong, and  have been wrong in what they have projected onto Trump In so doing they would then be left with an empty bag: they entire way of understanding, delusional, the world that they live in that they have convinced themselves is the truth would then utterly collapse. Life for them would then equal total meaninglessness. Nothing would make sense. A simple yet core archetype for most souls in order to feel secure is the need to be self consistent. When that fundamental or foundation of self consistency is removed the result is total insecurity. So, for most, they can't admit that they are wrong even when the 'reality' of Trump's policies end up removing or taking away government programs that benefit them; in many cases being vital to their  very existence. So, in essence, they vote or stick to this evil man in order to feel, delusional, that they are 'right': no matter what.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Apr 06, 2017, 06:38 AM
Hi Helena,

"Rad, I've noticed that in all three evil charts the galactic center point at 28 (or26?) Sagittarius is significantly active. Taking this is not a 'coincidence', would there be any more to consider besides the fact that this is more a symbol/confirmation of the destruction of the planet and natural resources, violation of natural law, that their actions represent?

I keep remembering what was mentioned by JWG, and here in the MB, that evil actions are always trying to create the opposite of light/the bearer of light, so the chart alone can represent whatever the soul chooses to do with it, and that sometimes can create much confusion and disorientation when we look at a chart. In the end it will be about actions and the effects of those actions i suppose, but it is very strange to see a point like the galactic center so active in people that just want to destroy earth itself."

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Yes, you have identified exactly what that is: the destruction of the planet and it's natural resources. To do the very opposite of what is needed to be in a place of natural balance relative to the totality of Nature.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Apr 07, 2017, 12:34 AM
Hi Rad,

If these contracts with Evil are irrevocable and these evil types don’t stumble or unravel, what, if anything, can be done by the rest of us (even on a psychic level) to stop people like Trump/Bannon/Putin, especially when they’ve made an agreement with each other?

It seems that creating a war is what these types do on purpose as, somehow, it seems to raise their approval ratings and makes them seem strong. I fear that the launching of missiles against Syria that happened tonight is just Trump’s way of raising his poll numbers and distracting the country away from the Russia collusion angle.

You’re absolutely right re Trump’s supporters-----it would take having them admit they’ve been wrong and that is something they absolutely can’t seem to do.

Thanks so much for your insights. Really appreciate it.

All the best,

Soleil


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Apr 07, 2017, 06:34 AM
Hi Soleil

"If these contracts with Evil are irrevocable and these evil types don’t stumble or unravel, what, if anything, can be done by the rest of us (even on a psychic level) to stop people like Trump/Bannon/Putin, especially when they’ve made an agreement with each other?"

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To be as closely defined, the nature of one's consciousness/soul, by Natural Laws so as to be able to give, help, and assist others as best as one can. For example the Natural Law of giving, sharing, and inclusion versus the perversion of that Natural Law manifesting as exclusion and self interest. The more humans that can find their way back to these Natural Laws the more all of Creation manifested on this Earth that we live can return to a state of balance within itself. In so doing, those who are defined by self interest and exclusion, the playground for the influence of Evil, will naturally diminish. If this does not happen the extinction of the human species is inevitable.

God Bless, Rad



Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Apr 08, 2017, 01:08 AM
Hi Rad,

Thank you. I appreciate what you wrote.  I look forward to the day when evil will naturally diminish. Am praying that day comes soon.

All the best,

Soleil


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Helena on Apr 09, 2017, 05:45 AM
Hi Rad,

Excuse my ignorance, but do we find the lucifer nodal axis to be always between leo/virgo (sn) and aquarius/pisces(nn)?

Also, if i can ask, this connection to the galactic center made me question what is the relationship evil people have with animals/pets. From what i know, animals show up in our lives to help us/teach us in some way, to give and receive love, so i can imagine animals also sense this things. Can evil people have 'love'/care for a pet or can their animals have evil natures also?

All the best,

Helena


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Apr 09, 2017, 08:30 AM
Hi Helena,

Excuse my ignorance, but do we find the lucifer nodal axis to be always between leo/virgo (sn) and aquarius/pisces(nn)?

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Yes. And in any given birth chart it is then necessary to examine the placement of the planetary rulers of these by house, sign, and aspects to other planets. In Trump's case the planetary ruler of his S.Node of Lucifer is his Gemini Sun conjunct the Lunar North Node and natal Uranus which are opposed his Moon, Lunar S.Node, and so on. North Node Lucifer in Pisces / 7th house ruled by his Neptune in Libra in the 2nd conjunct Chiron: these then being ruled by his natal Venus in Cancer in the 11th which is conjunct his Saturn and LUCIFER.

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Also, if i can ask, this connection to the galactic center made me question what is the relationship evil people have with animals/pets. From what i know, animals show up in our lives to help us/teach us in some way, to give and receive love, so i can imagine animals also sense this things. Can evil people have 'love'/care for a pet or can their animals have evil natures also?

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Animals, the Soul's within them, can not have an evil nature unless the Soul within it has been in a human form first. Souls that have been human then incarnate into an animal form for whatever the reasons may be can then be very much influenced by Evil. I remember a story JWG shared when he was invited to lecture in Israel. His host took him to a old Christian church there just to see/ experience it: it was still an active church though quite small. On his way out he said a dog ran up to him in great fear, a dog according to the host who had been hanging around this church for some time, a dog that had great fear of humans to the point of not allowing itself to be touched or approached to closely. Anyway this dog ran ran right up to JWG, wagging it's tail, jumping up on him. JWG recognized what was happening within the Soul of this dog: an unresolved hysteria from another life linked with Evil. That's all  he said, did not go into detail. Anyway, he spoke in Latin to the Soul within this dog, words that had the affect of freeing it's Soul. The dog then ran off into the nearby woods.

Evil people can have all kinds or relationship to animals/ pets: not just one thing, or type of relationship. Putin loves animals for example. Trump will  have none, and so on.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Apr 09, 2017, 02:24 PM
Hi Rad and Helena,

Helena, I’ve often wondered the same thing---whether evil individuals are able to form bonds with animals, especially since many sociopathic/psychopathic types usually first show signs of trouble during childhood with cruelty towards animals.

Rad, with these evil types, is this evil trait/contract with evil usually already present and activated in childhood? In an article in Rolling Stone called “Trump and the Pathology of Narcissism,” there is a bit about Trump as a child that I found particularly interesting:

Trump's childhood seems to suggest a history of "pedestal" parenting. "You are a king," Fred
 Trump told his middle child, while 
also teaching him that the world
 was an unforgiving place and that 
it was important to "be a killer." Trump apparently got the message:

He reportedly threw rocks 
at a neighbor's baby and bragged
 about punching a music teacher in
 the face. Other kids from his well-
heeled Queens neighborhood of Jamaica Estates were forbidden from playing with him, and in school
 he got detention so often that it
 was nicknamed "DT," for "Donny Trump." When his father found 
his collection of switchblades, he
 sent Donald upstate to New York Military Academy, where he could be controlled while also remaining aggressively alpha male.

"I think his father would have fit the category [of narcissistic]," says Michael D'Antonio, author of The Truth About Trump. "I think his mother probably would have. And I even think his paternal grandfather did as well. These are very driven, very ambitious people."

Seems Trump was being groomed to be an authoritarian figure, and other people with authoritarian tendencies are who he mainly appeals to? (As opposed to George W. Bush, who mainly appealed to evangelical Christians.)

Full article is at: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/trump-and-the-pathology-of-narcissism-w474896

The story you told about the encounter between JWG and the dog was really interesting. Thanks for relaying that.

All the best,

Soleil


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Apr 10, 2017, 06:34 AM
Hi Soleil,

"Rad, with these evil types, is this evil trait/contract with evil usually already present and activated in childhood?"

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Yes .................

Thanks for that link to the article. I will be posting that article in the environmental thread.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Helena on Apr 10, 2017, 11:09 AM
Hi Rad,

thank you. Although i'm afraid i posed a question to which i have not the capability to fully understand the answer, as it is so way beyond my knowledge or experience, but thank you very much for sharing that. JWG's life is always so inspirational that we don't have to understand it all to appreciate its wisdom! 

Also, Soleil, thank you for posting the article.

All the Best,
Helena


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Skywalker on Apr 13, 2017, 05:00 AM
Hi Rad,

That is interesting about animals not being able to have an evil nature unless in human form first, is it because until they reach a certain level of awareness there isn´t the capacity to understand the choice involved in making such a contract?

Also, is a Soul who made the contract capable of unconditional love?

Thank you

All the best


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Apr 13, 2017, 05:17 AM
Hi Skywalker,

"That is interesting about animals not being able to have an evil nature unless in human form first, is it because until they reach a certain level of awareness there isn´t the capacity to understand the choice involved in making such a contract?"

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Yes.

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"Also, is a Soul who made the contract capable of unconditional love?"

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No.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Apr 14, 2017, 08:44 AM
All,

For those interested in the French election I am posting the birth chart of Marie Le Pen because of the ongoing discussion we have been having about the evil of Trump and Putin, and the correlations to the Lucifer signatures in their birth charts. Appealing to 'nationalism', like Hitler and others now and through history have done, is one of the vehicles through which this influence of Evil manifests. Nationalism is of course a Capricorn, Saturn, and 10th House archetype.

As you will see her natal Lucifer is conjunct her Capricorn Moon in her 3rd house which is also conjunct her S.Node of Jupiter. Her S.Node of Lucifer is at 17 Leo conjunct her Sun and Mercury in the 10th House, and her N.Node of Lucifer is at 22 Aquarius in her 5th House: ruled by her 12th House Uranus conjunct her Pluto in the 12th.

Among other evil things she has done is to deny that the French has any role in exporting Jews to Germany during WW2: http://www.worldbulletin.net/news/187667/le-pen-denies-french-role-in-wwii-round-up-of-jews

I am also attaching the birth chart of Hitler who also has his natal Lucifer at 28 Sagittarius in his 2nd conjunct his Capricorn Moon in his 3rd which is also conjunct his natal Jupiter. His S.Node of Lucifer is at 1 Leo in his 9th, and his N.Node of Lucifer is at 7 Pisces in his 5th ruled by his Neptune conjunct Pluto in Gemini in his 8th.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Apr 14, 2017, 11:58 PM
Hi Rad,

Thanks for posting those charts and for the link to the article. Very disturbing that Le Pen is denying France’s role in exporting Jews to Germany in WWII and is pretending that the Vichy regime didn’t represent France. I guess the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. Her father is a well-known Nazi sympathizer (and Holocaust denier), as are two of the closest people in her inner circle, Axel Loustau and Frédéric Chatillon, who once kissed a picture of Hitler, saying."My beloved fuhrer, he is magnificent.” https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/13/world/europe/marine-le-pen-national-front-party.html?_r=0

The parallels between Le Pen and Hitler’s charts re Lucifer are really interesting, like the fact both their natal Lucifers are conjunct their Capricorn Moon in the 3rd house.

You mentioned in a previous post that on election day in the U.S., the transiting Lunar South Node had just passed the conjunction to Trump’s N.Node of Lucifer, and the transiting Mars had just conjuncted Putin's N.Node of Lucifer. Is there a similar kind of dynamic re Le Pen’s transiting Lucifer or N. Node of Lucifer for April 23rd (French election day, first round) or May 7 (run-off if no one wins majority on April 23)?

I’m wondering if the fact that the first round is being held during Mercury retrograde will affect things and force a run-off?

Thanks so much. I really appreciate your posts.

All the best,

Soleil


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Apr 15, 2017, 06:52 AM
Hi Soleil,

I don't think she will get much further than she has gotten. Since Trump got into office due to the purposeful help of Putin there has been a progressive backlash in many countries in the world against this far right/ nationalistic/ populists like what happened in Holland and that freak called Geert Wilders. He was crushed: only 13 % of the vote. I have attached his birth chart as well: noon time because there is no known time of birth. His S.Node of Lucifer at 24 Leo is, yes, conjunct his Mars, Pluto, and Moon. N.Node of Lucifer is 4 Aquarius conjunct his Lunar N.Node, and his natal Lucifer is 12 Sagittarius conjunct his S.Node of Uranus.

The same thing is now happening in France against creatures like Le Pen.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Apr 15, 2017, 09:31 PM
Hi Rad,

I think you’re absolutely right that since the insane orange one’s election, there has been a backlash against European nationalists. Still, this year the unpredictable Uranian energy makes it hard to know from one minute to the next what is likely to happen. I pray she gets crushed, as Geert Wilders (you’re so right, he is a freak) did, because Le Pen is an incredibly dangerous character.

Thanks for posting the chart of Wilders. Amazing how many planets his S. Node of Lucifer conjuncts---Mars, Pluto and Moon.

Speaking of freaks and dangerous characters, I wonder if Kim Jong Un is going to cause further mischief, or if his failed test today was a one-off. Not sure about his chart, because some sources say he was born in 1983, some 1984.

Thanks so much.

All the best,

Soleil





Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Maya on Apr 16, 2017, 03:48 AM
Hi all,

Wilders is born in Venlo 02.50, in de morning.

Peace
Maya


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Apr 16, 2017, 06:33 AM
Hi Maya,

Thanks for posting the birth time for Wilders. Can you please let me the source of that time ?

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Apr 16, 2017, 06:47 AM
Hi Soleil,

At this point in time there are various far right, nationalistic, populists, individuals like Le Pen, Wilders, Trump, Putin all over the world. Of course the Pluto transit in Capricorn that has been transiting it's own S.Node, S.Node of Saturn, the Uranus square in Aries, that reflects and symbolizes this. It is just stunning to see the repeating signatures relative to Lucifer that is so remarkable.

So it is important, at least to me, to document this stuff. Here is yet another example in the form of the women in Germany named Frauke Petry: http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/frauke-petry-a-1142901.html

Attached is her birth chart calculated for 12 pm. She has natal Lucifer in Taurus that then refers to her Venus in Capricorn, her S.Node of Lucifer is 2 Virgo conjunct her Moon, and the N.Node of Lucifer is at 8 Aquarius conjunct her S.Node of Neptune.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Apr 17, 2017, 12:40 AM
Hi Rad,

Thanks for the article on Frauke Petry and for posting her chart. It’s alarming that her AfD party in Germany is rising in popularity. Thank goodness they’re still at just 10 to 15%.

It really is stunning to see the repeating signatures re Lucifer in Petry’s chart and in Trump’s, Putin’s, etc., and, of course, she has aligned herself with these guys.

Since we’re about halfway through Pluto’s transit in Capricorn (interestingly, the last time it transited through Capricorn was during the American Revolution), do you think the whole nationalism thing is peaking now or do you think it’s likely to stay strong all the way through Pluto’s transit in Capricorn?

I agree with you that it’s important to be aware of this stuff and I really appreciate you documenting it in such detail on this site. Your posts are an amazing resource.

Thanks so much.

All the best,

Soleil


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Maya on Apr 17, 2017, 04:51 AM
Hi Rad,

I found it on the website from Martin Boot, I emailed him where he has found the hour,
but I  have not heard from him yet.

Maya


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Apr 17, 2017, 04:56 AM
Hi Maya,

Thanks. I have never heard of that person. Please let me know if you do hear back.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Apr 17, 2017, 06:29 AM
All,

In the spirit of the ongoing documentation of the influence of Evil in the form of various political leaders, and the stunning repeating EA signatures that we have been documenting, here are three more to look at.

One is Victor Orban who is a a far right, nationalist, populist leader of Hungary for many years now. Chart attached. His natal Lucifer in in Capricorn that then refers to his natal Saturn in Aquarius in the 5th in opposition to his Mars/Uranus in the 11th that then forms a T-square to his Mercury/ Venus in Taurus in his 8th, his S.Node of Lucifer is at 4 Leo in his 10th House, and his N.Node of Lucifer is in the 6th House Pisces conjunct Chiron.

Another is the President of Poland Jaroslaw Kaczynsk another far right, nationalist, populist leader in which Poland seems now to be going backwards in time. His natal Lucifer is at 7 Aries that conjuncts his Pisces Moon opposed his natal Neptune in Libra, and these then form a T-square to his Venus in Cancer. His S.Node of Lucifer is 7 Leo conjunct his Pluto, and his N.Node is at 12 Pisces that then refers to that natal Neptune. His chart is a 12pm chart as there is no known birth time.

And another, and the most dangerous, is the North Korean leader Kim Jong-un who of course control and the entire North Korean people in the most socially controlled country on our planet: extreme nationalism. And we are know of course of his desires for the nuclear bomb / intercontinental missises to deliver them.
Here again we see natal Lucifer conjunct his Moon in Pisces, and these square his natal Lunar Nodes. His S.Node of Lucifer is at 0 Virgo in his 5th that refers to his natal Mercury in Capricorn, his N.Node of Lucifer in 9 Aquarius conjunct N.Node of Neptune, and these refer to his natal Uranus in Sagittarius which is conjunct his natal S.Node of Uranus and his Lunar S.Node. If you examine the current transits, and the transits that are coming up in the next few years, you can see exactly how dangerous, and evil, this Soul is.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Apr 17, 2017, 08:33 AM
Hi All,

I am posting the below article because of the direct parallel and correlation to the 1930's when the transit of Uranus was in Aries, as it is now. For those who know/ understand Geodetics, and the developed by Johndro that correlates the longitude and latitude to our Earth via the astrological signs, this is when Uranus, like know, is in the Western Europe zone: 0 to 30 East. At that time Pluto was in Cancer, and Neptune was in Virgo: the polarity of Pisces where these two are now. 

The alarming worldwide alliance of parties on the far right hasn’t been seen since the 1930s

History News Network
17 Apr 2017 at 08:50 ET                   

Political parties on the far right are today enjoying a surge of support and access to government power that they have not experienced since their heyday in the 1930s.

This phenomenon is particularly striking in Europe, where massive migration, sluggish economic growth, and terrorism have stirred up zealous nationalism and Islamophobia. In France, the National Front―founded in 1972 by former Nazi collaborators and other right-wingers employing anti-Semitic and racist appeals―has tried to soften its image somewhat under the recent leadership of Marine Le Pen. Nevertheless, Le Pen’s current campaign for the French presidency, in which she is one of two leading candidates, includes speeches delivered against a screen filled with immigrants committing crimes, jihadists plotting savage attacks, and European Union (EU) bureaucrats destroying French jobs, while she assails multiculturalism and promises to “restore order.” In Germany, the Alternative for Germany party, established three years ago, won up to 25 percent of the vote in state elections in March 2016. Led by Frauke Petry, the party calls for sealing the EU’s borders (by shooting migrants, if necessary), forcing the migrants who remain to adopt traditional German culture, and thoroughly rejecting Islam, including a ban on constructing mosques. According to the party platform, “Islam does not belong in Germany.”

Elsewhere in Europe, the story is much the same. In Britain, the United Kingdom Independence Party (UKIP), led until recently by Nigel Farage, arose from obscurity to become the nation’s third largest party. Focused on drastically reducing immigration and championing nationalism (including pulling Britain out of the EU), UKIP absorbed the constituency of neo-fascist groups and led the struggle for Brexit, which it won. In the Netherlands, a hotly-contested parliamentary election in March 2017 saw the far right Party for Freedom emerge as the nation’s second largest political party. Calling for recording the ethnicity of all Dutch citizens and closing all Islamic schools, the party is headed by Geert Wilders, who has been tried twice in that country for inciting hatred and discrimination against Muslims. In Italy, the Northern League (so-named because it originally pledged to liberate industrious Italian workers in the north from subsidizing lazy Italians in the south), demands drastic curbs on immigration and removal of Italy from the Eurozone. Its leader, Matteo Salvini, contends that Islam is “incompatible” with Western society.

Other European parties of the far right include Hungary’s Jobbik (the country’s third-largest party, which is vehemently hostile to immigration, the EU, and homosexuality), the Sweden Democrats (now vying for second place among Sweden’s parties, with roots in the white supremacist movement and a platform of heavily restricting immigration and opposing the EU), Austria’s Freedom Party (which, founded decades ago by Nazis, nearly won two recent 2016 presidential elections, vigorously opposes immigration, and proclaims “yes to families rather than gender madness”), and the People’s Party-Our Slovakia (which supports leaving the EU and the Eurozone and whose leader has argued that “even one immigrant is one too many”).

Only one of these rising parties is usually referred to as fascist: Greece’s Golden Dawn. Exploiting Greece’s economic crisis and, especially, hatred of refugees and other migrants, Golden Dawn has used virulent nationalism and the supposed racial superiority of Greeks to emerge as Greece’s third-largest party. Golden Dawn spokesman, Elias Kasidiaris, is known for sporting a swastika on his shoulder and for reading passages from the anti-Semitic hoax, the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion,” to parliament. The party also employs a swastika-like flag, as well as gangs of black-shirted thugs who beat up immigrants. Party leaders, in fact, are on trial for numerous crimes, including violent attacks upon migrants.

Other far right parties in Europe, although striving for greater respectability, also provide reminders of 1920s- and 1930s-style fascism. Addressing a Northern League rally, Italy’s bombastic Salvini wore a black shirt while supporters waved neo-Nazi symbols and photos of Benito Mussolini. In Hungary, Jobbik’s platform includes a call to “stop hushing up such taboo issues” as “Zionist Israel’s efforts to dominate Hungary and the world.” Meanwhile, the leaders of Alternative for Germany have revived words once employed by the Nazis. In January 2017, one leader created a scandal when, addressing a party youth gathering, he criticized Germany’s commemoration of Holocaust crimes. That same month, speaking at a rightwing gathering in Germany, Wilders used the occasion to lament that “blonde” Europeans were becoming “strangers in their own countries.”

Around the globe, the same trend is in evidence. In the United States, of course, Donald Trump won a startling victory in his run for the presidency, employing attacks on Mexican migrants, Islamophobia, calls for law and order, and promises to “make America great again.” The Republican Party, moving rightward for years before Trump captured the party nomination, quickly embraced this agenda.

In Russia, Vladimir Putin and his United Russia party solidified their grip upon power, with Putin telling parliament that social and religious conservatism provided the only ways to keep Russia and the world from slipping into “chaotic darkness.” Defending “traditional values,” Putin attacked multiculturalism, aligned himself with the reactionary Orthodox Church, promoted a mystical, authoritarian nationalism, and fostered a government crackdown on Russia’s Muslims.

In India, the BJP, a Hindu nationalist party with a past that included violent attacks upon the nation’s Muslim minority, grew substantially and captured control of parliament. Led by Prime Minister Narendra Modi, the BJP opposes Muslim immigration, supports a program of social and economic conservatism, and trumpets the slogan “India First.”

Although these parties of the far right have some differences, they also share some key characteristics. Uninterested in challenging economic and social inequality, they develop their popular appeal by flaunting extreme nationalism, hostility to immigrants and religious minorities, a disdain for multiculturalism, and, in most cases, a call to return to “traditional values.” Not surprisingly, then, they usually get on very well. Responding to Donald Trump’s election, a spokesman for Golden Dawn praised it as a victory for “clean ethnic states.” He added: “A great global change is starting, which will continue with nationalists prevailing.” In January 2017, three of the top stars of the rising far right―Le Pen, Petry, and Wilders―shared the platform at a rightwing conference in Germany, at which they promised a new day for Europe.

Europe’s far right parties have been particularly enthusiastic about Putin. Unlike most other European political groupings, they applauded his war against Georgia and military meddling in Ukraine. When Putin invited representatives of their parties to observe the referendum to have Russia annex Crimea, they dutifully attended the event, after which France’s National Front, Britain’s UKIP, Austria’s Freedom Party, and Italy’s Northern League endorsed its legitimacy. Hailing Russia’s president as a true patriot, Le Pen lauded him as a defender of “the Christian heritage of European civilization.” Farage, asked which world leader he most admired, responded without hesitation: Putin! The leader of Austria’s Freedom Party, Heinz-Christian Strache, praised Putin as a “pure democrat.” Indeed, Europe’s far right parties blame the EU and NATO for the crisis in the Ukraine, support lifting EU sanctions on Russia, and back Russia’s military intervention in Syria. In the European parliament, their representatives vote in favor of Russian interests nearly all the time.

In turn, Russia’s president has assisted these parties in their struggle for power. In 2014, the National Front received an 11 million euro loan from a Russian bank to help finance its successful municipal election campaign. During the current French presidential campaign, the National Front applied for a substantially larger Russian bank loan, Russian media outlets are working hard for Le Pen; Putin received her in Moscow with the kind of buildup usually accorded a head of state. In Germany, Russian media and social networks played up a false story of an alleged gang rape of a 13-year old girl by migrants, prompting tens of thousands of Germans to take to the streets in protest and startling electoral gains by Alternative for Germany. That party has denied allegations that Russia is providing it with funding, but not the possibility that Russia is behind the mysterious appearance of millions of copies of its campaign newspaper and thousands of its election signs. Meanwhile, the youth group of Alternative for Germany has forged an alliance with Putin’s United Russia party.

The story is much the same in other nations. In Austria, the Freedom Party appears to be receiving Russian financial assistance through a thinly veiled intermediary, a prominent Russian oligarch. Russian cooperation with Austria’s far right became official in December 2016, when the United Russia party signed a cooperation agreement with the Freedom Party. In Britain, the Russian government, despite formal statements of neutrality, clearly sided with UKIP’s Brexit campaign. Enamored of Farage, it provided him with frequent guest appearances on Russia Today and, following passage of the Brexit referendum, even offered him his own show on that state-funded network. In the Netherlands, Russia’s disinformation and propaganda arms have worked to assist Wilders and his Party for Freedom by trumpeting false news stories.

No one, however, has inspired the rising far right more than Donald Trump. As early as March 2016, Salvini was enthusiastic about the U.S. business magnate, and in late April he traveled to Pennsylvania to participate in a Trump rally. Here he held a “Trump: Make America Great Again” sign and afterward had a 20-minute meeting with the Republican presidential front-runner that consummated their alliance. Farage took part in Trump’s presidential campaign that August in Mississippi, where he shared the rally platform with him and lauded his fellow right-winger before the cheering crowd. In October 2016, Golden Dawn endorsed Trump on the floor of the Greek parliament, hailing the “patriotic wind” sweeping through Europe and North America. Furthermore, if U.S. intelligence agencies are correct, Vladimir Putin set Russian covert operations in motion to help secure Trump’s political triumph.

Naturally, Trump’s election victory sent a surge of euphoria through the far right. From France, Le Pen lauded it as “a sign of hope,” showing “that people are taking their future back.” Farage, addressing a victory party near the White House, declared: “Brexit was great, but Trump becoming the president of the USA is Brexit plus, plus, plus.” Farage, in fact, was the first British politician to meet with Trump after the US election; he posed for photographs with the president-elect in the gold-plated elevator of Trump Tower. Exhilarated by Trump’s election, the leaders of Alternative for Germany immediately dispatched a congratulatory telegram to him. At a celebration in Munich, a party leader told the cheering crowd that what Trump had done in the United States, their party would do in Germany. “America First is coming to Deutschland,” he boomed, with the crowd erupting in thunderous applause.

As might be expected, Trump’s executive orders banning refugees and other immigrants from predominantly Muslim nations sent parties of the far right into ecstasy. In Greece, thousands of Golden Dawn supporters surged into the streets, carrying torches and waving their Nazi-like flags. “Well done,” President Trump, exulted Wilders; “it’s the only way to stay safe and free.” In a National Front rally brimming with nationalist fervor, Le Pen declared that Americans had “kept faith with their national interest,” while National Front supporters shouted joyously: “This is our country!” Trump’s action was also lauded by the Northern League, Alternative for Germany, and the whole panoply of ultra-right parties. Although government officials of most nations condemned Trump’s immigrant ban, India’s prime minister conspicuously refrained from any criticism, while India’s foreign secretary said that the world should not “demonize” Trump.

Viewing Trump as a kindred spirit, as well as the leader of the world’s most powerful nation, the parties of the far right are keen on cementing an alliance with him. Upon Trump’s election, Alternative for Germany informed him that it was a “natural ally” at his side. Farage was so eager to court Trump that he met with him three times during the first weeks of Trump’s presidency. Salvini told the rightwing Breitbart News that his party shared many of the policies of the new administration and was a logical ally. “On many issues,” the Italian leader said, “we see eye-to-eye with President Trump and we look forward to partnering with his administration.” Arguing that “a direct channel with the new American president is crucial,” Salvini promised to quickly establish “direct, serious, non-mediated contact” with the Trump administration.

But what is the attitude of Trump and his circle toward these leaders of the far right? Apparently, it is quite favorable. When Trump, during his campaign for the presidency, first spoke with Salvini, he told him: “Matteo, I hope you become prime minister of Italy soon.” Moreover, Trump, as a fan of Farage and keen supporter of Brexit, has not only met with Farage on numerous occasions, but has publicly declared that the rightwing leader would make a good British ambassador to the United States. Le Pen, like her rightwing allies, made a much-publicized, post-election victory visit to Trump Tower, although Trump’s transition team denied that the incoming president met with her.

Trump has also displayed a remarkable affection for rightwing politicians in power. Political observers have been struck by Trump’s consistent admiration for Vladimir Putin, whom Trump has praised for his “strong control” over Russia. “He’s been a leader,” said Trump, “far more than our president has been.” So intertwined have Trump and his associates been with Russian officialdom that the FBI is conducting a criminal investigation of collusionbetween Trump campaign officials and the Russian government during the U.S. presidential election campaign.

Similarly, within three days of taking office, Trump conversed on the telephone with India’s Prime Minister Modi, one of the few world leaders with whom he had spoken since his inauguration. According to a White House statement, Trump said that he considered India a “true friend and partner in addressing challenges around the world,” and was looking forward to welcoming Modi to the United States later in the year. In turn, Modi said that he had had a “warm conversation” with Trump, and that the pair had “agreed to work closely in the coming days.”

Some of Trump’s aides have been even more outspoken in praising parties and leaders of the far right. For years, Steve Bannon―who managed the final portion of Trump’s election campaign and who is now the president’s top political strategist―ran Breitbart, a far right news service that he described as “the platform for the alt-right.” Under his leadership, Breitbart worked assiduously to provide favorable publicity for UKIP, Alternative for Germany, the Party for Freedom, and other right-wing parties. Farage recalled that “when Bannon opened up the Breitbart office in London and began to give the arguments that I was making . . . a very, very big audience,” this turned the tide for Brexit. Consequently, Farage publicly offered “a personal thank you and tribute to Steve Bannon for having the foresightedness of doing that with Breitbart,” for which he was “extremely grateful.”

And the project continues. In November 2016, after Breitbart announced plans to expand to Berlin and Paris, Reuters―citing sources “close to Bannon”―reported that “the aim is to help elect right-wing politicians in the two countries.”

Bannon’s alliance with the far right is not merely a marriage of convenience, but is based on a deep-seated nationalist ideology and love of power that he shares with it. “I think strong countries and strong nationalist movements in countries make strong neighbors,” Bannon told an audience of conservative religious activists in 2014. These were “the building blocks that built Western Europe and the United States, and I think it’s what can see us forward.”

Sometimes, the Trump administration’s intense nationalism seems built on a very unsavory past. Bannon, who wrote Trump’s “America First” inaugural address, is an admirer of a nationalist right-winger, Charles Maurras, a vicious anti-Semite and supporter of France’s World War II Nazi-dominated regime who, after the war, was sentenced to life imprisonment as a collaborator. Sebastian Gorka, a Hungarian immigrant who worked for Bannon at Breitbart and, like Bannon, is now a White House advisor, was recently named by officers of a quasi-Nazi Hungarian nationalist group as a sworn member of their organization. Although Gorka denied this allegation, he did wear its medal to a Trump inaugural ball and did add a “v” middle initial to his name, a practice that comports with the group’s traditions.

Other Republican officeholders have also displayed an affinity with Europe’s far right politics. In March 2017, U.S. Representative Steve King publicly praised Geert Wilders, who, in his latest anti-immigrant tirade, referred to Moroccans as “scum.” “Wilders understands that culture and demographics are our destiny,” King declared, with admiration. “We can’t restore our civilization with somebody else’s babies.” In September 2016, he posted online a photo of Wilders and himself, warning of “cultural suicide by demographic transformation.”

Although numerous public officials condemned King’s latest racist broadside, White House press secretary Sean Spicer refused to comment on it. Trump was also silent on King’s remarks. But back in 2014 when Trump campaigned for the Iowa congressman’s election, he called King a “special guy, a smart person, with really the right views on almost everything.” With their ideologies so in sync, said Trump, “we don’t have to compare notes.”

In this fashion, then, political forces around the world have been drawing together in recent years into a far right international. Although its future remains uncertain, especially if Putin and Trump come to a parting of the ways, it certainly has plenty of political momentum at present. “Long live Trump, long live Putin, long live Le Pen, and long live the League,” exulted the Northern League’s Salvini in early 2017. “Finally, we have an international alliance.”

Dr. Lawrence Wittner (http://www.lawrenceswittner.com) is Professor of History emeritus at SUNY/Albany. His latest book is a satirical novel about university corporatization and rebellion, What’s Going On at UAardvark?


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Apr 17, 2017, 09:43 PM
Hi Rad and all,

Great article on the rise of the far right. Thanks for posting that and the charts of Victor Orban, Jaroslaw Kaczynsk and Kim Jong-un, who is, as you said, an incredibly dangerous, unstable and evil character.

I will add Erdogan to the list of evil ones aligned with Putin/Trump, etc. What happened over the weekend in Turkey is extremely disturbing. Now Erdogan is effectively a dictator and could be in power (a la Putin) till 2034. That’s insane. There is already evidence the election results were doctored, but, unfortunately, it probably won’t make a difference.

All the best,

Soleil


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Helena on Apr 18, 2017, 04:56 AM
Hi Rad,
thank you for all that you have been documenting on this.

I agree with you and Soleil that Kim Jong-un is the most dangerous and have to say that even writing his name is a thing that is difficult for me.
I can observe and detach when it comes to all others but this the only one i have ever felt an instinctive repulsion of no even wanting to see his face, the sensation of absolute danger.

I appreciate you have posted his chart though, i never found it because of the secrecy that has always been about his birthdate, would this be a noon chart or the actual time? I can observe again the emphasis on the galactic center - this one's jupiter and neptune and hitler's lucifer...

All the best,
Helena


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Apr 18, 2017, 06:10 AM
Hi Helena,

Yes it is a noon time for the Korean creep.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Apr 18, 2017, 09:03 AM
Hi Soleil,

Here is the chat for Erdogan. His natal Lucifer is at 26 Aquarius conjunct his N.Node of Lucifer at 24: both, through extension conjunct his natal Sun in Pisces. His Lucifer/ North Node of then refers to his Uranus in Cancer conjunct his Lunar S.Node and these then refer to his Sagittarius Moon conjunct Mars in his 11th. These are in opposition to his Jupiter in Gemini conjunct his N.Node of Uranus.  His S.Node of Lucifer is at 11 Leo that then squares his natal Saturn in Scorpio.

To me this is Turkey's version of Putin.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Apr 19, 2017, 12:20 AM
Hi Helena,

Re Kim Jong-un’s birth data, you’re right, the info varies. Some sources say he was born in 1983, some say 1984. From what I’ve gathered, sounds like 1984 might be the correct year, but I’m still not 100% sure.

I know exactly what you mean, though, when you say you have an instinctive repulsion towards him, and that you don’t even want to look at his face. That’s my visceral reaction to Trump---whenever I hear him, I mute the sound; when his image appears, I turn away (especially when he’s making those creepy madman hand gestures). Not interested in taking any of that poison in.

All the best,

Soleil


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Apr 19, 2017, 12:23 AM
Hi Rad,

Thanks for posting the chart of Erdogan. Really interesting that his Lucifer is conjunct his N. Node of Lucifer and that his S.Node of Lucifer is squaring his natal Saturn in Scorpio in the 10th. A lot of intense energy there.

I totally agree with you that he is Turkey’s version of Putin. What’s disturbing is that Trump---being the authoritarian fan-boy that he is---called to congratulate him (on destroying a democracy and creating a dictatorship!). Unbelievable.

Theresa May also concerns me. She’s another far right nightmare and definitely not a force for good. Not sure what to make of her suddenly calling for a snap election. As unlikely as it probably is, I’m praying a good candidate runs against her and wins.

All the best,

Soleil



Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Skywalker on Apr 19, 2017, 04:01 AM
Hi All,

I´m remembering what Rad said about the Earth entering a kind of dark age when I see these far right politicians gaining ground. If these types of people are in "power" to make policies and have access to the technology that is each time more dangerous, then we are in for a tough time.

Rad do you think it´s possible or probable that there is a split within certain societies between those that are more awake and aligned with natural law and those that want to maintain the status quo, which will lead to very dark dynamics and probably mass extinction?

I ask this as  there are many people who are for truth, who are questioning the media, the pharmaceutical establishment, the political establishment, the economic structure etc and who are for preserving the natural world. It makes sense that either these groups of people will be totally suppressed/destroyed or will find a way to split from these evil idiots and their ways.

I´m thinking that when Pluto ingresses into Aquarius, it can correlate with this splitting of groups of people who simply can´t go along with the destructive policies and ways of life of the status quo, and will look to totally separate from the mainstream. 

Thank you

All the best


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Apr 19, 2017, 06:40 AM
Hi Skywalker,

"Rad do you think it´s possible or probable that there is a split within certain societies between those that are more awake and aligned with natural law and those that want to maintain the status quo, which will lead to very dark dynamics and probably mass extinction? "

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I think it is possible but not probable. I feel it is more probable that there is and will be groups of humans all over the planet splitting from the mainstream, consensus, of the countries/ societies that they live within: forming communities of like mindedness that are motivated to 'survive' the increasing perversions / demolition of all the Natural Laws that sustain the inherent balance of Nature, and Creation itself.

If so, these communities would become the nexus/ nucleus that served as the basis of the necessary recreation/ rebuilding of what is left after the unspeakable cataclysms created because of violations / destruction of the Natural Laws occurred. 

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Skywalker on Apr 20, 2017, 05:44 AM
Hi Rad,

Yes there are communities popping up like mushrooms all over the place but my concern is that since these communities still operate within a national legal and financial structure, they can be controlled, corrupted or eradicated.

All the best


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Apr 25, 2017, 06:39 AM
Hi All,

Here are the birth charts for Macron and Piglet Le Pen one of which will win the French elections on May 7th to become the leader of France. I am also posting the election day transiting chart. We have already posted the positions of Lucifer for Le Pen. For Macron his natal Lucifer is at 10 Sagittarius, a Lucifer return now, and his S.Node of Lucifer is 4 Virgo, and his N.Node is 5 Aquarius.

It should not be lost on us that the influence of Evil, Lucifer, also manifested last week the day before the vote for all the candidates to see who would run in the run-off election as that terrorist attack. It should also not be lost on us that this influence of Evil is manifesting primarily in the rural equals stupid peoples in all countries, including France, in which this call to 'nationalism' resonates within that stupidity. And, within this, the influence of Evil in the form of Pig Putin who is doing all he can to destabilize any country that he perceives through the inner filter of his own Evil, the contract that he has made, has also manifested in the French election: http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/russians-who-hacked-clinton-campaign-also-targeted-french-candidate-macron/ . He also gave piglet Le Pen a 12 million dollars loan for her own evil campaign.

On the election day transiting Lucifer will be at 4 Sagittarius retrograde, and the transiting S.Node will be at 1 Leo, and the N.Node at 10 Pisces.

For me this is clearly yet another example of the influence of Evil/ Lucifer and the 'bearer of Light' = the influence of God/ess in this election.

The current birth chart for France, it's 5th Republic chart, is also posted. The natal Lucifer in this chart is 28 Sagittarius: the current Saturn transit......right now. This is also Macron's natal Sun. It's N.Node of Lucifer is 26 Capricorn, and it's S.Node is 0 Virgo with it's natal  Pluto.

Feel free to comment of make your observations if you wish.


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Apr 25, 2017, 07:53 PM
Hi Rad and all,

Thanks, Rad, for posting those charts and the link to the article, which was a great expose. I hope Putin doesn’t also manage to plant a damaging false story about Macron in the press, like he did so many times with Hillary. With only a week and a half to go, I bet he’s going to try.

Re the terrorist attack you mentioned that happened just before the first round of elections, I’m sure Putin planned that as well, to try to boost Le Pen’s chances.

Even though Macron is currently leading in the polls, I hope he doesn’t get complacent and over-confident. As you said, Putin is backing Le Pen all the way and he certainly succeeded here in the U.S. by getting that insane buffoon elected.

On election day in France, Lucifer (at 4 Sagittarius) will be almost conjunct Macron’s natal Lucifer (at 10 Sagittarius). How do you think that’s going to bear on Macron’s chances?

You’re absolutely right that this influence of Evil is primarily manifesting worldwide in rural areas. Amazing that these rural area, which have the least population (as well as the least-informed voters, and the whitest skin) have disproportionately high leverage in elections these days.

Thanks. Really interesting stuff.

All the best,

Soleil


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Apr 26, 2017, 06:43 AM
Hi Soleil

"On election day in France, Lucifer (at 4 Sagittarius) will be almost conjunct Macron’s natal Lucifer (at 10 Sagittarius). How do you think that’s going to bear on Macron’s chances?"

**********

I think he will win. Then again I thought Clinton would too yet because of the influence of Evil the opposite of what was intended occurred: that is how Evil operates.

God Bless, Rad



Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Apr 26, 2017, 09:29 PM
Hi Rad,

I’m happy to hear you say you think Macron will win, but I understand the note of caution. Like you, I thought Clinton would win----that is, up until 11 days before the election, when Comey came out with that letter about more emails. At that point, the energy shifted, the polls shifted, and it felt like she was in deep trouble.

I hope a similar disinformation campaign doesn’t happen in the last 10 days before the French election. I know Putin and his gang will try. As you said, the influence of Evil causes the opposite of what was intended to occur, so, although I remain hopeful, I’m not counting my chickens yet.

All the best,

Soleil


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Helena on Apr 30, 2017, 12:11 PM
Hi Rad and All,

Rad, thank you for the Macron/Le Pen charts. Although i didn't have the time to look at it thoroughly yet, my first impression is how this is such clear example, symbol, of the duality we face. I look at them as mirroring this two opposite realities so distinctly that choice becomes the crucial bottom line, who people choose and why.
Saturn is now at 27 sagittarius, so power and power structures will ultimately revolve around truth and lies, and any power place will be given to either the one that speaks the actual truth of what mankind needs to survive and evolve (nn exactly leaving virgo) or the total delusion of evil behind old power structures, patriarchal institutions and the destruction of the earth.

What i think is actual evil work here is the fact that now, so 'conveniently' there is a 'woman' doing the lying/deceiving work... A woman that embodies all the system perversions behind appearances of a 'powerful woman' in charge and the one that can make the 'difference'...

And Macron, well, what more can be of that symbol? I have no idea of his soul intentions and karmic reasons to be in this position, but what we get is a man that apparently desires to listen to others, include everyone, and the personal life that he shares is on the opposite spectrum of the showing off Melanias of this world. He simply seems he couldn't care less of other's opinions about having a partner 20 years older than him, or looking menaced by that at all, helping raise her children. So that obviously challenges any if not all the patriarchy view on women, specially by what's expected from a powerful status and what people, deluded man and women, wish to see portrayed in a leader (to feed their own projected fantasies)... A very powerful symbol in my opinion to make people see what's at stake, what is the choice and where they and the world stand at this point.

Since Macron's own sun and mercury is conjunct that saturn, i so wish too that what we listen this time is other tune... Let's see.

All the best,
Helena




Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on May 01, 2017, 08:14 PM
Hi Rad, Helena and all,

Re Macron’s chances this Sunday, although he is still in the lead, he lost a few points this week, while Le Pen gained a few. He leads approximately 60% to her current 40%. (from Newsweek, http://www.newsweek.com/france-polls-le-pen-marcon-592343)

According to 538, who seem to be the most accurate at polling, that lead may be more tenuous than it sounds. They write (full article at https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/le-pen-is-in-a-much-deeper-hole-than-trump-ever-was/):

"In cases since 2012 where the right-wing party polled at 25 percent or more, the polls missed the party’s actual support by an average of 3.6 percent of the vote. That translates to a true margin of error (or 95 percent confidence interval) of about plus or minus 9 percentage points. And because any vote that Le Pen gets is one that Macron won’t get, the margin of error for the gap between Le Pen and Macron is twice as large, or about 18 percentage points."

An 18 point gap is huge but at this point he only leads by 20 and she has been gaining. I pray Macron pulls out a victory---Le Pen is just an incredibly dangerous and evil character who could further destabilize the world.

All the best,

Soleil







Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Maya on May 07, 2017, 01:26 PM
Thank God/ess Macron won!!
I hope Europe will  unite strong.

Maya


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on May 07, 2017, 03:34 PM
Hi Rad, Maya and all,

Maya, my sentiments exactly. So relieved. I’m hoping the National Front (Le Pen’s) party has officially peaked.

The next test for Macron will be the upcoming parliamentary elections in June. If he doesn’t get a majority in parliament, it may be a tough road for him. At least he is president, and not that horror show Le Pen.

And thank goodness Russia's attempt to hack the French elections backfired. I think the French people and media are less easily duped and manipulated than the U.S. general public and media.

Rad, since we’re about halfway through Pluto’s transit in Capricorn, do you think the whole nationalism thing is peaking now or do you think it’s likely to stay strong all the way through Pluto’s transit in Capricorn?

All the best,

Soleil


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on May 25, 2017, 08:53 AM
Hi Soleil,

"Rad, since we’re about halfway through Pluto’s transit in Capricorn, do you think the whole nationalism thing is peaking now or do you think it’s likely to stay strong all the way through Pluto’s transit in Capricorn?"

*******

I think it depends on exactly what regions, countries, in the world in which this has/ is/ will be manifesting. In some places the nationalism will become ever stronger, whereas in other areas it will diminish. In the context of the times now Pluto in Capricorn is also correlating to the tremendous evolution, change, of the demographics in so many of the countries now that will also have a direct affect on this, as well as the aging of the various populations within the world. Look at the last election in Iran for example where the youth of that country voted overwhelmingly for the existing leader there who has wanted to open Iran up to the world.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on May 27, 2017, 08:27 AM
Hi All,

Given the turn of events relative to Trump's son in law, Jared Kushner, I thought I would post his birth chart for all to examine relative to the influence of evil: Lucifer. It is a noon chart as there is no known birth time for him at the present time.

His natal Lucifer is 3 Leo conjunct his natal N.Lunar Node, his N.Node of Lucifer is 10 Aquarius conjunct his Lunar S.Node, exact, his natal Mars and S.Node of Neptune. This is also the USA's natal Moon, S.Node of Neptune, and it's natal Lucifer. His S.Node of Lucifer is 0 Virgo which then refers to his Mercury conjunct his Sun, which is square his natal Pluto, and sextile his Uranus in Scorpio: treason.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on May 28, 2017, 12:51 AM
Hi Rad,

Thanks for posting Kushner’s chart. Really interesting that his Lucifer/Pluto/Uranus in Scorpio point to treason.

If it can be proven that the Democratic voter roll data Kushner (at Trump’s behest) gave to Cambridge Analytica in order to suppress and sway Democratic votes was hacked data provided by the Russians, we’ve got collusion and possibly treason.

A good article that lays this out is by Newsweek (you may have already posted this): “Did Russians Target Democratic Voters, With Kushner’s Help?” http://www.newsweek.com/did-russians-target-dem-voters-kushners-help-613612
 
What concerns me is that the media only seems to be focusing on the wrongdoing of people around Trump, rather than on Trump himself. Trump is the nexus of all the wrongdoing, and is the originator. I’m convinced there is a financial angle at the bottom of it all. Corruption beyond a level we’ve ever see.

Is there anything in the US chart right now, whether re transits or progressions, that is similar to the progressed chart of the US during the 1972-74 impeachment process? As bad as what Nixon did was, what Trump is doing now is far more corrupt and nefarious but he seems to be getting away with everything.

Do you think impeachment is likely, and if so, do you think Pence (another evil one the media refuses to touch) is likely to go down with the ship?

By the way, great article you posted about Trump’s mental health issues. I wish the media and Democrats would focus on that more instead of normalizing him.

Thanks.

All the best,

Soleil


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on May 28, 2017, 06:38 AM
Hi Soleil,

Attached is the chart for Watergate: the actual date that it was all set in motion relative to the actual burglary. The transiting N.Lunar Node was essentially conjunct the USA's Pluto.

As far as I know about America the impeachment thing is dependent on the congress actually making the charge, and then being convicted in the senate. Given that both are controlled by Republicans who can say what they will do. Seems to me Trump has already committed impeachable offenses such as obstruction of justice, the violation of some financial benefits to himself once becoming president, and other impeachable offenses that will be unfolding. Given that most humans are inwardly regulated by self interest, and whole groups of people accordingly like the group called Republicans, they would have to conclude that it's in their own self interest to impeach this evil soul. At this point in time these Republicans are not doing what America actually needs as a country: the common good. They seem to be motivated by their 'agenda', using Trump as their tool to get it all passed. Like I have said before the limited and perverted consciousness of self interest and exclusion is the playground for the influence of Lucifer itself. Their actions to date speak to this loud and clear. How sad.

From beyond the American media check this: http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/donald-trump-is-a-menace-to-the-world-opinion-a-1148471.html

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on May 28, 2017, 03:27 PM
Hi Rad,

Thanks for the Watergate chart and for the Der Spiegel editorial. Very refreshing to see the truth about Trump’s unfitness spelled out in print. I would have added how clinically insane and unintelligent he is + the fact that he is a crook and a conman. I wouldn’t trust that buffoon to run a corner store, let alone the country.

Re impeachment, I agree with you 100%. Unfortunately, it is not a legal process, strictly a political one. If he were to murder someone, he would not be criminally prosecuted. He could only be judged/removed by a political process (as you said, through the House and Senate).

Even though Trump has committed offenses that would be clear grounds for impeachment for any other president (obstruction of justice, violation of emoluments clause, treason---evidence to come), he will only be impeached if the Democrats win back the House in 2018.

What’s disturbing is that lately a lot of Democrats have been backing off from the idea of impeachment, probably because they fear that Pence, assuming he were to replace Trump, might have an easier time getting re-elected in 2020 than Trump. We’ll see. I have a feeling a lot more on the corruption angle between Trump and the Russians will come to light. If his base starts shrinking, only then will the Republicans abandon him.

You’re so right re what you said about the Republicans---all they care about is their agenda (taking money away from the poor and sick and giving it to the ultra wealthy) and don’t give a crap about the common good of the American people. I just wish all those “low information” Trump voters could see that, but that would mean acknowledging they were wrong in voting for him and they don’t seem capable.

The truth has a way of prevailing in the end. Am looking forward to more of it being revealed, as it will only be bad news for the insane man-baby & his corrupt crew.

All the best,

Soleil


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Tashi on Jun 06, 2017, 09:51 PM
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/an-astrologer-predicts-the-fate-of-everyone-in-the-white-house

A British Astrologer lists the charts ( noon ) for the motley crew that work in the White House and how the two "american eclipses" in August might bring them all to their knees....



Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Jun 08, 2017, 01:10 AM
Hi Tashi,

Thanks for that link. I so hope she’s right! It will be interesting to see what happens during the eclipse period in August.

All the best,

Soleil


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Tashi on Jun 28, 2017, 04:02 PM
Hi Soleil, me too....

Rad

I too am hoping the "American Eclipse" August 21, 2017, will help those of us on the other side of this equation.  I thought it was interesting that it was a Washington State Court that stopped the travel ban, as often the effects of an eclipse can be seen earlier and this eclipse as you know makes a swath from Northern Oregon to North Carolina this summer...

Astrologer Charles Jayne noted that an Eclipse that split the USA in half and impacted the chart of Robert E. Lee was associated with the Civil War. Today, we are seeing a similar idea of a divided, extremely polarized nation because the Solar Eclipse Path (21 August 2017) will go straight through USA.


Eclipse Series Saros #145 in History Last Four eclipses in this Saros family:

* July 29, 1927 - Kevin C. O'Higgins, Irish nationalist and political leader assassinated 7/09/1927

* July 09, 1945 - Hitler commits suicide.   FDR dies of cerebral hemorrhage

* July 20, 1963 – John F. Kennedy assassinated.  Saddam Hussein installed after a coup . 


* July 31, 1981 – Anwar Sadat assassinated in Egypt.

Evil has taken over the American Govt.  I was asleep on day on a sofa, and when I awoke, Trump was on the TV and inside of him I saw what looked like a small evil being. To me he seems to be possessed by evil.

Rad

Is an eclipse strong enough on Trumps Asc/Mars to somehow effect a change to his status?

 How does a nation of people become subjected to it.  How do we rise above it? 

I looked at the chart you posted for his son-in-law,  and the first lunar eclipse will quinx his 15 Pisces Moon, and be near his Leo No Node of the Moon, along with Neptune's south node.  I am hopeful it will stir up some trouble for him. 

I truly sincerely want to know what you think of that transits ( Lunar Eclipse quinx his Moon ) as an outer reflection in the world outside of him - looks like, and not just his inner journey, because he seems so dense and uninterested in any values I would care about I am trying to look from the outside of the fish bowl.
  Trying to see how the Moon in the 11h, hit by an eclipse could help us get him out of our world, by each of us taking aim at our 11h pisces moon inner piece of the Mandala.   



Is it totally Utopian to think that if everyone could somehow work on Aquarian principles for example of inclusion, sharing and giving, does it, as Jung suggested shift the collective unconscious so much -  that the evil diminishes? 

Thanks for your insights

Tashi



Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Deva on Jun 29, 2017, 08:03 AM
Hi Tashi,

Rad has been having some health issues that have required that he slow down and take time off from all that he does. Myself and Kristin will be answering the questions posed on the message board, and one of Rad's assistants is now posting in the environmental, animal, and space threads.

Namaste,

Deva


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Tashi on Jun 29, 2017, 02:04 PM
Oh blessings and prayers to him. my wishes for his full and perfect health....

Love to hear your thoughts, if this subject speaks to either of you..... or of course anyone...i know we are all facing this level of evil and I am always wishing/searching for the kind of profound and real insights into this american political scene that EA offers...

I am reading the other posts, love the Pluto houses, but right now I do not have time to participate/write, but certainly gaining wisdom and learning from all you do...

grateful

Tashi


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: dollydaydream on Jun 29, 2017, 02:52 PM
Love and Best Wishes to Rad for a full recovery.  Hope you are better soon.  DDD


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Helena on Jun 30, 2017, 05:30 AM
My best wishes for Rad's recovery and health.
Hope all turns out well soon.

Thank you for sharing Deva,
Helena


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Kristin on Jun 30, 2017, 10:28 AM
Hi Tashi,

While you have documented some events in history where the Eclipses reflect the element of surprise, as with any trend or transit, it is important to remember the astrology speaks to potentialities of what may occur, not absolutes. Remember too that it is essential that to understand the nature of an eclipse and the impact for any given Soul , it must be seen within the context or reality that it exists.

The Uranian event whatever it may be, may seem sudden but something is happening deep beneath the surface or behind the energetic scenes. This is similar to an earthquake when the tension of the Earth plates reach an extreme and are moving in opposite directions beneath the Earth’s surface, similar to the nature of what is happening in our society.

There may be some form of a shock to Trump’s America or a wake-up call but in ways it will not come as a surprise. Something is obviously building and mounting in Trump’s world which is directly linked to his choice making and his need to cover something up, Pluto in the 12th.

The majority of Americans in fact want Trump impeached yet it is not happening. Why?
There is a corporate agenda. What many Americans are realizing is that the people they voted into power do not have their backs so it will be this progressive realization for many that may cause something to finally snap.

Currently, this country is dependent on the will of the people in power, thus the GOP. They have an agenda and it is determining the timing of things. As long as Trump continues to do what they want for them, they will do whatever they can to keep him in power. This is essentially becoming a fascist government where the government does the bidding for the corporations, it's all about money! The GOP will only continue to support him as long as it serves their own agenda. This eclipse window could create a reality for Trump where they realize he is too much of a liability.. Only then will he be impeached. His own shock would come to be a result of an ultimate betrayal of the very people he came to trust.

WHAT IS HE HIDING?

There will be an increasing amount of information that is uncovered that continues to expose Trump that will create its own kind of shock to the world, most likely linked with MONEY and his secret financial deals and connections to Russia. Remembering natally Trump has Venus, Saturn and Lucifer in Cancer in the 11th. In addition he is making money while being the president which is against the constitution and is an impeachable offense. Remember too Trump has a 12th house Mars that is conjunct his SN of Lucifer, a clear repeat from the past.  On the day of the Full Moon Eclipse in Aquarius on Aug 7, transiting Lucifer will be at 27 Scorpio squaring his Mars and Ascendant.

On the day of the Total Solar Eclipse, Venus is in Cancer conjuncts Trump’s Venus, Saturn and Lucifer and this squares transiting Uranus in Aries. This eclipse will be conjunct his Asc, in his 12th house , while also conjunct his Mars and Transiting Lucifer will be at 00 Sag, still squaring his Ascendant and Mars. This has more than enough energy to expose him (finally BEYOND REPAIR) and bring his private world that has been hidden out into the light of day. Mercury will be retrograde The Solar Eclipse forms a strong trine to transiting Uranus which further suggests this will prove to be a catalyst with an event occurring with stunning speed.

Pluto will be squaring Trumps progressed Venus in Libra as well as his natal Jupiter, the ruler of his South Node and Moon, restating the exposure of his secret financial dealings across country lines. Transiting Saturn in Sag is continuing to retrograde and will slow to a stop and it will be conjunct his natal Moon and South Node in Sagittarius while forming an inconjunct to his Venus, Saturn and Lucifer. This also reflects the negative international impact he is having around the world. Just a few days ago, the Washington Post had an article that read, “Not America First, America, Alone.”  the walls are slowly caving in on him.

There are different groups in society but Trump continues to only care to appeal to his own supporters which is also decreasing and holding around 30%. When they come to realize that he is not who he said he would be, that he is not going to help their reality but hurt it, the bottom of his base will collapse.

Of course we would all prefer for this evil man to be either ‘taken out’ or taken away in an orange jump suit, but we would still have major problems on our hands with who would stand in to take his place.

In my eyes, this Eclipse suggests that Trump may very well be the trigger for an increasing amount of people waking up to his evil ways as more information surfaces which will set in motion a growing rebellion, this eclipse equaling the initiation of a revolution that will progressively play out for quite some time.

It is all underway now..has been, is now..and will be.

I just discovered too that Trump's progressed Sun, his chart ruler, just shifted into 00 VIRGO. There will be a fall to his kingdom. He will be humiliated and brought down to size, it's simply a matter of time.


Peace for us all,
Kristin


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Upasika on Jun 30, 2017, 03:42 PM
Hi Deva and Kristen,

Hello to you both. And could you please pass on to Rad that I am very sorry to hear he is not well; and send him healing wishes, prayers and blessings, and hope he recovers quickly and feels better as soon as possible.

thanks Upasika


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Tashi on Jul 01, 2017, 05:47 AM
Kristen, thanks so much for your profound insights.  It is very helpful to me and I am sure others.

I will continue to examine what you have written and watch closely as it is unfolding.  I of course am going to continue to pray for us all as well.  Thanks for all the Lucifer transits.  It is a lot to digest and I will do so and respond - as I am continuing to learn and observe how it all unfolds.  I now see I have to put Lucifer into the charts.  So thank you also for helping me realize I cannot see all of this without Lucifer's placements.

So thanks and yes, I really understand what you are saying about the current moment in time.

Gratitude and Love

Tashi


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Jul 02, 2017, 02:45 AM
Hi all,

Sending prayers and healing energy to Rad. Hope he feels better soon, and that this rough patch passes quickly. His presence on this site is missed.

Kristin, your analysis is spot-on. You’re exactly right that the Republicans will continue to support Trump as long as it serves their agenda. I also agree that more information about corrupt financial dealings on his part will come to light. Unfortunately, so far he has not been held accountable for anything, including countless transgressions that would have leveled any other president.

I pray that his base does collapse, but so far it doesn’t seem to be budging. As Rad mentioned in a post on this thread a while back, the core of his base may never abandon him, because that would mean they would have to admit they were wrong. 

Interesting that his progressed Sun has just shifted into Virgo. Maybe that and the coming eclipse will trigger his downfall. Something has to....although he is “dumb as a sack of hair”, as a Republican strategist recently labeled him, the guy is evil and dangerous, as are those he has surrounded himself with.

Thanks for your perspective. Very insightful.

All the best,

Soleil


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Kristin on Jul 04, 2017, 09:36 AM
 Hi Tashi and Soleil and all,

I came across this reference in Yogananda's Autobiography of a Yogi that felt relevant relative to astrological events we have been discussing.

The equilibrating law of karma, as expounded in the Hindu scriptures, is that of action and reaction, cause and effect, sowing and reaping. In the course of natural righteousness (rita), each man, by his thoughts and actions, becomes the molder of his destiny. Whatever universal energies he himself, wisely or unwisely, has set in motion must return to him as their starting point, like a circle inexorably completing itself. The world looks like a mathematical equation, which, turn it how you will, balances itself. Every secret is told. Every crime is punished, every virtue rewarded, every wrong redressed, in silence and certainty. - Emerson, "Compensation."

Peace,
Kristin


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Kristin on Jul 04, 2017, 09:41 AM
Also,

Be sure to read this article posted today below today on the environment thread. I will re-post it here. It refers to the truths of what we have been discussing relative to the Republicans role in allowing the destruction of this country to occur.

This article says it all.

The Hijacked American Presidency

Charles M. Blow JULY4, 2017
NY Times

Every now and then we are going to have to do this: Step back from the daily onslaughts of insanity emanating from Donald Trump’s parasitic presidency and remind ourselves of the obscenity of it all, registering its magnitude in its full, devastating truth.

There is something insidious and corrosive about trying to evaluate the severity of every offense, trying to give each an individual grade on the scale of absurdity. Trump himself is the offense. Everything that springs from him, every person who supports him, every staffer who shields him, every legislator who defends him, is an offense. Every partisan who uses him — against all he or she has ever claimed to champion — to advance a political agenda and, in so doing, places party over country, is an offense.

We must remind ourselves that Trump’s very presence in the White House defiles it and the institution of the presidency. Rather than rising to the honor of the office, Trump has lowered the office with his whiny, fragile, vindictive pettiness.

The presidency has been hijacked.

Last week, when Donald Trump attacked two MSNBC hosts, people were aghast. The condemnation came quickly and from all quarters.

But his words shouldn’t have shocked. His tweet was just another pebble on a mountain of vulgarities. This act of coarseness was in fact an act of continuity. Trump was being Trump: the grossest of the gross, a profanity against propriety.

This latest episode is simply part of a body of work demonstrating the man’s utter contempt for decency. We all know what it will add up to: nothing.

Republicans have bound themselves up with Trump. His fate is their fate. They have surrendered any moral authority to which they once laid claim — rightly or not. If Trump goes down, they all do.

It’s all quite odd, this moral impotence, this cowering before the belligerent, would-be king. A madman and his legislative minions are holding America hostage.

There are no new words to express it; there is no new and novel way to catalog it. It is what it is and has been from day one: The most extraordinary and profound electoral mistake America has made in our lifetimes and possibly ever.

We must say without ceasing, and without growing weary by the redundancy, that what we are witnessing is not normal and cannot go unchallenged. We must reaffirm our commitment to resistance. We must always remember that although individual Americans made the choice to vote affirmatively for him or actively withhold their support from his opponent, those decisions were influenced, in ways we cannot calculate, by Russian interference in our election, designed to privilege Trump.

We must remember that we now have a president exerting power to which he may only have access because a foreign power hostile to our interests wanted him installed. We must remember that he has not only praised that foreign power, he has proven mysteriously averse to condemning it or even acknowledging its meddling.

We must remember that there are multiple investigations ongoing about the degree of that interference in our election — including a criminal investigation — and that those investigations are not constrained to collusion and are far from fake news. These investigations are deadly serious, are about protecting the integrity of our elections and the sovereignty of our country and are about a genuine quest for truth and desire for justice.

Every action by this administration is an effort to push forward the appearance of normality, to squelch scrutiny, to diminish the authority and credibility of the ongoing investigations.

Last week, after a growing list of states publicly refused to hand over sensitive voter information to Trump’s ironic and quixotic election integrity commission, White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders blasted the pushback as a “political stunt.”

But in fact the commission itself is the political stunt. The committee is searching for an illegal voting problem that doesn’t exist. Trump simply lied when he said that he would have won the popular vote were it not for millions of illegal votes. And then he established this bogus commission — using taxpayer money — to search for a truth that doesn’t exist, to try to prove right a lie that he should never have told.

This commission is classic Trump projection: There is a real problem with the integrity of our last election because the Russians helped power his win, but rather than deal with that very real attack on this country, he is instead tilting at windmills concerning in-person voter fraud.

Last week, CNN reported:

“The Trump administration has taken no public steps to punish Russia for its interference in the 2016 election. Multiple senior administration officials said there are few signs the president is devoting his time or attention to the ongoing election-related cyber threat from Russia.”

Donald Trump is depending on people’s fatigue. He is banking on your becoming overwhelmed by his never-ending antics. He is counting on his capacity to wear down the resistance by sheer force.

We must be adamant that that will never come to pass. Trump is an abomination, and a cancer on the country, and none of us can rest until he is no longer holding the reins of power.


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Gonzalo on Jul 04, 2017, 11:22 AM
Hi,

Perhaps the main reason why Americans have not been able to simply remove Trump is that he is a reflection of the American society. That’s why they got him elected as a president in the first place. I’ve heard so few Americans speaking with objectivity about the situation of their country. On the contrary, so many talk as if Trump were a random event in their history, or as if they were the victims of a complot having nothing to do with their own psychology. Still pretending that the democrats have nothing to do with why they got Trump elected. And they still speak as if they were certain as prophets. That’s the Pluto Rx in the 9th House Capricorn opposed to Mercury Rx in Cancer in the 3rd House, which are already being transited by Pluto. Americans need to mature as a society and to mature in ideological terms, versus their dominant, arrogant self-righteousness and their ideological imperialism. Of course Trump is a clown, and a very dangerous one, but from an external observer he does not necessarily look too different from a classic US president. Rather than expecting for the law of karma to make its work against Trump, perhaps it would be wiser to reflect - Capricorn - about why they have created this situation for themselves. Assuming responsibility for their own reality is demanded in order to create something better. That is also reflecting about their own karma, not just someone else's.

God Bless,
Gonzalo


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: dollydaydream on Jul 04, 2017, 11:27 AM
Kristin, thanks for the Yogananda reference and the NY Times article.  DDD


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: mirta on Jul 05, 2017, 06:43 AM
My  best wishes for Rad's health and prayers for his recovering
God Bless him
Mirta


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Helena on Jul 06, 2017, 06:13 AM
Hi All,

Kirstin, thank you for the article and your views on the upcoming. I also desire to study it better and see the correlations/doubts, see if i can find the time.

For now i just couldn't help to share this woman's drive to do all she can do best to take a stand, and wow! an amazing artist mixing art and science in self-empowerment project as a resistance to this all.

https://www.media.mit.edu/projects/woman-of-STEAM-grabs-back/overview/

All the best,
Helena


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: dollydaydream on Jul 06, 2017, 07:39 AM
Helena, thanks for that link - brilliant!  DDD


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Kristin on Jul 06, 2017, 09:49 AM
Hi Helena,

A picture says a thousand words...her artistry is very impactful..thank you for sharing this link.

-----

I was floored when I learned that 13 OLD (white) MEN were meeting in SECRET to attempt to come up with a health care plan, and the first people they showed it to gain approval were Corporate Lobbyists from insurance companies, versus senators of this country. I can only imagine what was in their great plan for women and the poor.

Consider the stages of evolution that we discuss in EA and the political stance of people within them. We know that approximately 75% of people are in the consensus state. Ask yourself, what percent of the Republicans do you think are in the consensus state?

What percent of Republicans would you imagine being in the Individuated or Spiritual State? I would say slim to none as they saying goes, with the exception of Individuated whites with unresolved racism and a fear of the demographic shifts such as the white supremacists. It sure puts our current state of affairs into perspective.

It's not that there are not 'good' Republican people in the consensus state, it's simply that they become part of the pack and do not make the effort to educate themselves, so they believe the lies and vote as others are voting, they follow the herd.

Also as Jeffrey used to say time and time again, that there are simply two different types of humans, those who naturally want to give, share and include, and those who only care about their own bottom line.

Thanks again for the link,
This woman's project has enough power to stop any make any woman in any stage think.

Namaste,
Kristin


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Jul 07, 2017, 01:05 AM
Hi all,

Kristin, thanks for the Yogananda excerpt (a good reminder) and for the Charles Blow NY Times article. It was spot-on. It’s so important for us to not normalize Trump, which most of the media continues to do.

Unfortunately, few in the media state what is painfully obvious---this Trump character is not only a con man, a crook, a pathological liar, an ignoramus (I could go on and on), but he’s also mentally not all there. One of the few in the media who routinely do point this out---and stress the need to never normalize him---is Keith Olbermann. Here’s a link to his latest short video, entitled “Trump wanders from limo; tweets "wrestling" video - Why do we hesitate to call him mentally incompetent?”
https://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann/status/882765954928848896

The fact that Trump has taken no public steps to punish Russia for interfering in the election should not surprise anyone. Russia/Putin actually helped elect him, so of course he isn’t going to do anything to punish or stop them. He wants them to do it again in 2020.

There is plenty of reporting and intelligence gathering that shows the Russians changed the minds of voters by methods such as planting false stories on Facebook, using micro-targeted information (gleaned by sources such as Democratic voter rolls which Russians hacked into in at least 21 states), hacking into the DNC and giving the emails to Wikileaks (which several Trump surrogates predicted the release of on Fox News ahead of time), etc.

This election was stolen, not only by the Russians but by Republicans who ensured that Democratic votes  (especially those of minorities) were suppressed. After all, Hillary only lost by less than 100,000 votes across 3 states, and there was heavy voter suppression in at least one of those states.

Am hoping that over time more of the corruption and collusion allegations will come out in the open. There’s a good article in New York Magazine, written by Frank Rick, called “Just Wait. Watergate didn’t become Watergate overnight, either.” http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/06/frank-rich-nixon-trump-and-how-a-presidency-ends.html

Helena, thanks for that link. Really interesting.

All the best,

Soleil


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Jul 12, 2017, 06:05 PM
Hi all,

There’s a part of this latest scandal involving Trump Jr. that isn’t getting much coverage. The Russian lawyer Trump Jr met with, Natalia Veselnitskaya, had been representing Prevezon, a Russian firm that the DOJ in Manhattan had a money laundering case against.

Suddenly in May, Jeff Sessions made sure the case got settled, and now we will never know which Manhattan real estate holdings were used as money laundering vehicles by the Russians. Makes you wonder if some of Donald Trump’s properties were among them. No way to know, as he uses layers and layers of shell companies to disguise ownership.

Democrats Want to Know If Trump Quashed a Russian Money Laundering Case In Return for Dirt on Hillary Clinton

Mother Jones
July 12, 2017

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/07/democrats-want-to-know-if-trump-quashed-a-russian-money-laundering-case-in-return-for-dirt-on-hillary-clinton/

The 17 Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee have written a letter to Attorney General Jeff Sessions:

Last summer, Donald Trump, Jr. met with a Kremlin-connected attorney in an attempt to obtain information “that would incriminate Hillary.” Earlier this year, on May 12, 2017, the Department of Justice made an abrupt decision to settle a money laundering case being handled by that same attorney in the Southern District of New York. We write with some concern that the two events may be connected—and that the Department may have settled the case at a loss for the United States in order to obscure the underlying facts.

This is where the Trump-Russia thing starts to get sort of Watergate-y. The Watergate scandal started off with a burglary of DNC headquarters in Washington DC, but by the time it was over it was all about ITT, Daniel Ellsberg’s psychiatrist, interference with the CIA, 18-minute gaps, using the IRS to intimidate enemies, etc.

Donald Trump has only been in office for six months, so there’s no way he could have built up a Nixonian level bill of particulars like this yet. Still, we might discover more than just campaign collusion as leakers get busier and reporters start to take the whole thing more seriously.

In this case, Don Jr. said that he met with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya because she wanted to discuss Russian adoptions. But the law banning Americans from adopting Russian babies was itself a nothingburger, a minor bit of Putin score-settling passed in retaliation for Congress passing the Magnitsky Act. When you hear “Russian adoptions,” that’s the real topic of conversation.

The Magnitsky Act is a set of sanctions designed to punish Russia for arresting and killing Sergei Magnitsky, a Moscow lawyer who had uncovered a state-sanctioned scheme of tax cheating that implicated police, the judiciary, tax officials, bankers, and the Russian mafia. Over $200 million was involved, much of it laundered through overseas companies, including several who used the money to buy up high-end Manhattan real estate. One of these companies was Prevezon.

Natalia Veselnitskaya was one of Prevezon’s lawyers. Preet Bharara was the US Attorney prosecuting the case, which was not going well for Prevezon. However, Donald Trump fired Bharara in March, and two months later the Justice Department surprised everyone by abruptly settling the case for $6 million. The settlement was so meager that one of Prevezon’s US attorneys said it was “almost an admission that they shouldn’t have brought the case.”

So: was there a deal made last year? Did Trump campaign aides—or Trump himself—agree to scuttle the case against Prevezon in return for dirt on Hillary Clinton?

This might be a big stretch, nothing more than a bit of connecting-the-dots conspiracy theorizing. Alternatively, it might be the real deal. If it is, it’s the first step toward the Watergate-ization of the Trump-Russia scandal.

******************************************************************************

Russian money-laundering details remain in the dark as US settles fraud case


CNN.com
May 13, 2017

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/13/world/prevezon-settlement/index.html

New York (CNN)A major US investigation into Russian money laundering has come to an abrupt end.

The case aimed to expose how Russian mobsters allegedly stole $230 million and hid some of the cash in New York City real estate. Also sure to come up was the suspicious death of the Russian lawyer who exposed the alleged fraud, though US prosecutors weren't alleging that the defendants were behind it.

The trial was set to start on Monday, but late Friday night, federal prosecutors in New York announced they settled the case with Prevezon, the company accused of buying up "high-end commercial space and luxury apartments" with laundered money.

The abrupt conclusion has some involved in the trial wondering why this Russian investigation had been cut short.

"What most concerns me is: Has there been any political pressure applied in this?" asked Louise Shelley, an illicit finance expert who was set to testify in support of the US government on Tuesday.

Shelley — who founded George Mason University's Terrorism, Transnational Crime and Corruption Center — said the alleged money launderers got off easy.

"I think they won something. There's no recognition of wrongdoing," she said.

The US Attorney's office did not respond to CNN's request for comment.

In the settlement, Prevezon and its business associates did not acknowledge any wrongdoing, and the government agreed to "release" them all from any future lawsuits in connection with this case.

The case against Prevezon was a civil matter, so the federal government's inherent goal was to recover money. That it did.

The $5.9 million settlement is three times the value of the $1.9 million in supposedly laundered money tied to funds stolen from the Russian state coffers. But it's far less than the value of Prevezon's real estate in Manhattan -- which Shelley estimates at $17 million -- that had been partially acquired with those allegedly laundered funds.

Russia's largest ever tax fraud

The alleged fraud behind the Prevezon case goes back a decade. According to US investigators, corrupt Russian government officials allegedly teamed up with a powerful Russian organized crime organization to pull off that country's largest ever tax fraud.

Russian crime rings often use identity theft to file fake tax refunds. In this case, the government says that the defendants essentially did that on a grand scale: allegedly stealing the corporate identity of Hermitage Capital Management, an investment firm in Russia. According to the complaints, the defendants then allegedly created fake losses, claimed fake tax refunds -- and made off with the stolen rubles.

Hermitage's lawyer, Sergei Magnitsky, exposed the alleged fraud — and was later jailed by the very investigators he fingered in the plot. He was tortured and killed in prison, according to Russia's own Presidential Human Rights Commission. The Russian government insists that Magnitsky, age 37, died of a heart failure with no signs of violence.

The conspirators allegedly laundered the illicit cash through shell companies, luxury cars, real estate around the world, and international bank accounts.

But without a trial, the illicit money trail remains unproven to the public.

The settlement allowed both sides to still claim a victory.

Prevezon said this is proof it did nothing wrong. In a statement, the firm said: "From the outset, Prevezon and its owner Denis Katsyv have maintained their innocence and have repeatedly stated that they had no involvement in or knowledge of any fraudulent activities and never received any funds from any criminal activity."

Prevezon claimed prosecutors "brought this case without conducting any independent investigation, relying exclusively on the claims of William Browder," the head of Hermitage.

Meanwhile, American prosecutors claimed this served as a deterrent for future money launderers. "We will not allow the U.S. financial system to be used to launder the proceeds of crimes committed anywhere -- here in the U.S., in Russia, or anywhere else," acting Manhattan US Attorney Joon H. Kim said in a statement.

The case had initially been brought by US Attorney Preet Bharara, but he was fired by President Donald Trump in March. Bharara congratulated the prosecutors on Twitter late Friday night: "Congrats to Joon & team in Russian money laundering case (underlying fraud uncovered by Sergei Magnitsky, died suspiciously in Moscow jail)."

There was one witness set to testify at the trial who had a very personal connection to the case: Jamison Firestone, whose law firm partner was Magnitsky.

On Saturday, Firestone lamented that details about the Russian government, mobsters and investors who allegedly received these funds won't be aired at trial.

"I wanted this all to come out," he told CNN on Saturday. "The embarrassing stuff exposes the Russian government's entire money laundering machine."

But Firestone said this settlement is one step closer to justice. Estonia, the UK, and the US have already adopted "Magnitsky laws" to sanction Russians connected to the fraud. This settlement is the first time a court in the West has forced someone allegedly involved in the money laundering to pay up.

"We're just going to keep doing this until we expose them all," he told CNN. "These people may escape prosecution as long as the Putin government stands, but it won't stand forever. Putin is going to die before they do, and hopefully they will die in tiny prison cells like Sergei Magnitsky did."




Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Darja on Jul 20, 2017, 10:38 AM
Hello Soleil,

Rad asked me to post this link for you about the Pluto in Capricorn archetype manifesting in India, as it is in so many places in the world: nationalism. This is about the Hindi 'fundamentalism' taking place now. This is a documentary produced by Al Jazerra. Rad thought you would find this really interesting because of the parallels is reflects taking place in America, and so many other countries now. Here is that link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE8p9-rtHkY

Darja



Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Jul 21, 2017, 01:53 AM
Hi Darja,

Please thank Rad for letting me know about that video. I really appreciate it. I had no idea that this type of Hindi nationalism/anti Muslim hatred was going on in India. It’s extremely disturbing and definitely parallels what's going on here and in so many other places around the world.

What I found especially disturbing was the level of violence they’re using (seemingly allowed by the government) and the way they’re brainwashing kids, including young girls, into this movement. And, as with Trump and his followers, all they do is spout lies and believe lies.

I hope the last person they interviewed was right, that most Indians don’t back these fundamentalists. I hope a resistance is rising up over there as well.

Thanks again to Rad.

All the best,

Soleil


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Jul 23, 2017, 04:07 AM
No, Trump can’t pardon himself. The Constitution tells us so.
Wahington Post
July 21, 2017

http://wapo.st/2gQVsxJ?tid=ss_mail&utm_term=.54eb818bf00d

By Laurence H. Tribe, Richard Painter and Norman Eisen July 21 at 7:58 PM

Can a president pardon himself? Four days before Richard Nixon resigned, his own Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel opined no, citing “the fundamental rule that no one may be a judge in his own case.” We agree.

The Justice Department was right that guidance could be found in the enduring principles that no one can be both the judge and the defendant in the same matter, and that no one is above the law.

The Constitution specifically bars the president from using the pardon power to prevent his own impeachment and removal. It adds that any official removed through impeachment remains fully subject to criminal prosecution. That provision would make no sense if the president could pardon himself.

The pardon provision of the Constitution is there to enable the president to act essentially in the role of a judge of another person’s criminal case, and to intervene on behalf of the defendant when the president determines that would be equitable. For example, the president might believe the courts made the wrong decision about someone’s guilt or about sentencing; President Barack Obama felt this way about excessive sentences for low-level drug offenses. Or the president might be impressed by the defendant’s subsequent conduct and, using powers far exceeding those of a parole board, might issue a pardon or commutation of sentence.

Other equitable considerations could also weigh in favor of leniency. A president might choose to grant a pardon before prosecution of a person when the president believes that the prosecution is not in the national interest; President Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon in part for this reason.

Or a president may conclude that even if a person may have committed a crime, he was acting in good faith to protect the national interest; President George H.W. Bush pardoned former defense secretary Casper Weinberger in the Iran-contra affair in part for this reason.

In all such instances, however, the president is acting as a kind of super-judge and making a decision about someone else’s conduct, the justice of someone else’s sentence or whether it is in the national interest to prosecute someone else. He is not making a decision about himself.

Self-pardon under this rubric is impossible. The foundational case in the Anglo-American legal tradition is Thomas Bonham v. College of Physicians, commonly known as Dr. Bonham’s Case. In 1610, the Court of Common Pleas determined that the College of Physicians could not act as a court and a litigant in the same case. The college’s royal charter had given it the authority to punish individuals who practiced without a license. However, the court held that it was impermissible for the college to receive a fine that it had the power to inflict: “One cannot be Judge and attorney for any of the parties.”

The Constitution embodies this broad precept against self-dealing in its rule that congressional pay increases cannot take effect during the Congress that enacted them, in its prohibition against using official power to gain favors from foreign states and even in its provision that the chief justice, not the vice president, is to preside when the Senate conducts an impeachment trial of the president.

The Constitution’s pardon clause has its origins in the royal pardon granted by a sovereign to one of his or her subjects. We are aware of no precedent for a sovereign pardoning himself, then abdicating or being deposed but being immune from criminal process. If that were the rule, many a deposed king would have been spared instead of going to the chopping block.

We know of not a single instance of a self-pardon having been recognized as legitimate. Even the pope does not pardon himself. On March 28, 2014, in St. Peter’s Basilica, Pope Francis publicly kneeled before a priest and confessed his sins for about three minutes.

President Trump thinks he can do a lot of things just because he is president. He says that the president can act as if he has no conflicts of interest. He says that he can fire the FBI director for any reason he wants (and he admitted to the most outrageous of reasons in interviews and in discussion with the Russian ambassador). In one sense, Trump is right — he can do all of these things, although there will be legal repercussions if he does. Using official powers for corrupt purposes — such as impeding or obstructing an investigation — can constitute a crime.

But there is one thing we know that Trump cannot do — without being a first in all of human history. He cannot pardon himself.

**********************************************************************

If Trump Pardons, It Could Be a Crime

New York Times
July 21, 2017

By DANIEL HEMEL and ERIC POSNER JULY 21, 2017

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/21/opinion/if-trump-pardons-crime-russia.html

President Trump and his lawyers have discussed whether he could pardon his relatives and aides to undercut, or even end, the special counsel’s investigation into charges that his campaign colluded with Russia to influence the 2016 election, The Washington Post reported on Thursday night.

There’s no question that with a stroke of his pen, Mr. Trump can shield his son Donald Trump Jr., his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, and other close associates from potential prosecution. Despite the uproar that would set off, we know by now that Mr. Trump loves the grand gesture, whatever the consequences. Besides, his family is at stake.

While his authority to pardon is crystal clear, a crucial, threatening, legal ambiguity should make him think twice about using this authority.

The Constitution gives the president “power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment.” The framers had sound reasons for bestowing that authority. As Alexander Hamilton explained, criminal law in the late 18th century was so severe that without the pardon power to soften it, “justice would wear a countenance too sanguinary and cruel.”

Consistent with the framers’ design, the Supreme Court has interpreted the president’s pardon power broadly. The president can pardon anyone for any crime at any time — even before a suspect has been charged. Congress cannot withdraw presidential pardons, and prosecutors and courts cannot ignore them.

But could a pardon be a criminal abuse of power? Some would argue that would contradict the founders’ vision of unlimited pardon authority. If a president sold pardons for cash, though, that would violate the federal bribery statute. And if a president can be prosecuted for exchanging pardons for bribes, then it follows that the broad and unreviewable nature of the pardon power does not shield the president from criminal liability for abusing it.

The Justice Department and the F.B.I. proceeded on this premise in 2001 when they opened an investigation into possible bribery charges arising out of President Bill Clinton’s pardon of the fugitive financier Marc Rich, whose former wife had donated $450,000 to Clinton’s presidential library. The investigation lasted until 2005, though no charges resulted.

Of course, bribery would not be the relevant crime. No one thinks that Donald Jr. or Jared Kushner — or anyone else involved in the Russia scandal — would pay the president for a pardon.

Yet federal obstruction statutes say that a person commits a crime when he “corruptly” impedes a court or agency proceeding. If it could be shown that President Trump pardoned his family members and close aides to cover up possible crimes, then that could be seen as acting “corruptly” and he could be charged with obstruction of justice. If, as some commentators believe, a sitting president cannot be indicted, Mr. Trump could still face prosecution after he leaves the White House.

There is strong support for the claim that the obstruction statutes apply to the president.

In 1974, when the House Judiciary Committee voted to impeach President Richard Nixon, members on both sides of the debate acknowledged that presidential obstruction of justice was not only impeachable but also criminal. A quarter century later, the Senate split 50-50 on whether to remove President Clinton from office on obstruction charges, but senators from both parties agreed that the obstruction laws applied to the president.

There is a broad consensus that a president exercises the pardon power properly — not “corruptly” — when he grants clemency based on considerations of mercy or the public welfare. President Gerald Ford invoked both of those values when he pardoned Nixon: He said that a prosecution of the former president would be too divisive and that Nixon had suffered enough. President George H.W. Bush gestured to both values when he pardoned former Reagan administration officials for their involvement in the Iran-contra scandal.

In Trump’s case, the question would be whether he was acting out of the goodness of his heart, or covering up for his family, his associates and himself.

We expect — and hope — that prosecutors and courts would give wide latitude to a president in evaluating his pardon decisions. Only in the most egregious cases should a president face criminal liability for actions taken while in office.

While the law on this subject is unsettled, that in itself should be unsettling to the president as he considers whether to grant clemency. Not only might the pardons constitute obstruction, but the pardoned individuals might be compelled to testify against Mr. Trump without any recourse to the Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination, since they would no longer have any concern about incriminating themselves.

He could ensure that his family members and aides get off scot-free for any crimes they may have committed during the 2016 campaign. But by extricating those individuals from a legal predicament, he might make his own predicament worse.

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Can the President Be Indicted? A Long-Hidden Legal Memo Says Yes

New York Times
July 22, 2017

By CHARLIE SAVAGE JULY 22, 2017

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/22/us/politics/can-president-be-indicted-kenneth-starr-memo.html

WASHINGTON — A newfound memo from Kenneth W. Starr’s independent counsel investigation into President Bill Clinton sheds fresh light on a constitutional puzzle that is taking on mounting significance amid the Trump-Russia inquiry: Can a sitting president be indicted?

The 56-page memo, locked in the National Archives for nearly two decades and obtained by The New York Times under the Freedom of Information Act, amounts to the most thorough government-commissioned analysis rejecting a generally held view that presidents are immune from prosecution while in office.

“It is proper, constitutional, and legal for a federal grand jury to indict a sitting president for serious criminal acts that are not part of, and are contrary to, the president’s official duties,” the Starr office memo concludes. “In this country, no one, even President Clinton, is above the law.”

Mr. Starr assigned Ronald Rotunda, a prominent conservative professor of constitutional law and ethics whom Mr. Starr hired as a consultant on his legal team, to write the memo in spring 1998 after deputies advised him that they had gathered enough evidence to ask a grand jury to indict Mr. Clinton, the memo shows.

Other prosecutors working for Mr. Starr developed a draft indictment of Mr. Clinton, which The Times has also requested be made public. The National Archives has not processed that file to determine whether it is exempt from disclosure under grand-jury secrecy rules.

In 1974, the Watergate special counsel, Leon Jaworski, had also received a memo from his staff saying he could indict the president, in that instance Richard M. Nixon, while he was in office, and later made that case in a court brief. Those documents, however, explore the topic significantly less extensively than the Starr office memo.

In the end, both Mr. Jaworski and Mr. Starr let congressional impeachment proceedings play out and did not try to indict the presidents while they remained in office. Mr. Starr, who had decided he could indict Mr. Clinton, said in a recent interview that he had concluded the more prudent and appropriate course was simply referring the matter to Congress for potential impeachment.

As Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel in the latest inquiry, investigates the Trump campaign’s dealings with Russia and whether President Trump obstructed justice, the newly unearthed Starr office memo raises the possibility that Mr. Mueller may have more options than most commentators have assumed. Here is an explanation of the debate and what the Starr office memo has to say.

Why do some argue presidents are immune?

Nothing in the Constitution or federal statutes says that sitting presidents are immune from prosecution, and no court has ruled that they have any such shield. But proponents of the theory that Mr. Trump is nevertheless immune for now from indictment cited the Constitution’s “structural principles,” in the words of a memo written in September 1973 by Robert G. Dixon Jr., then the head of the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel.

This argument boils down to practicalities of governance: The stigma of being indicted and the burden of a trial would unduly interfere with a president’s ability to carry out his duties, preventing the executive branch “from accomplishing its constitutional functions” in a way that cannot “be justified by an overriding need,” Mr. Dixon wrote.

In October 1973, Mr. Nixon’s solicitor general, Robert H. Bork, submitted a court brief that similarly argued for an “inference” that the Constitution makes sitting presidents immune from indictment and trial. And in 2000, Randolph D. Moss, the head of the Office of Legal Counsel under Mr. Clinton, reviewed the Justice Department’s 1973 opinions and reaffirmed their conclusion.

What was the Starr office’s stance?

In laying out his case, Mr. Rotunda played down arguments that permitting a president to be indicted would cripple the executive branch. Instead, he placed greater emphasis on immunity issues that the Nixon — and, later, Clinton — legal teams dismissed.

Among them, he noted that the Constitution’s speech-or-debate clause explicitly grants limited immunity to lawmakers for certain actions. “If the framers of our Constitution wanted to create a special immunity for the president,” he argued, “they could have written the relevant clause.”

He also wrote that the 25th Amendment, which allows for temporary replacement of a president who has become unable to carry out the duties of the office, created a mechanism that would keep the executive branch from becoming incapacitated if the president was on trial.

And he noted that if indictments had to wait until a president’s term was up, some crimes would become untriable — such as those where the statute of limitations had run out. That could happen for crimes that do not rise to an impeachable offense, he wrote, citing the example of a president who punches an irritating heckler.

“No one would suggest that the president should be removed from office simply because of that assault,” he wrote. “Yet the president has no right to assault hecklers. If there is no recourse against the president, if he cannot be prosecuted for violating the criminal laws, he will be above the law.”

What has the Supreme Court said?

The Supreme Court has never addressed the question of whether a sitting president can be indicted and tried. But in a landmark 1997 ruling, Clinton v. Jones, it permitted a lawsuit against Mr. Clinton for unofficial actions — accusations of misconduct before he became president — to proceed while he was in office.

In his 2000 memo, Mr. Moss dismissed this ruling, emphasizing that the burdens of being a criminal defendant were greater than the burdens of being sued by a private litigant. But in the Starr office memo, Mr. Rotunda deemed the ruling far more significant for the criminal question.

“If public policy and the Constitution allow a private litigant to sue a sitting president for acts that are not part of the president’s official duties (and are outside the outer perimeter of those duties), and that is what Clinton v. Jones squarely held,” he wrote, “then one would think that an indictment is constitutional because the public interest in criminal cases is greater.”

Could Mueller go where no prosecutor has before?

Even if Mr. Mueller were to uncover sufficient evidence to indict Mr. Trump, decide that the legal arguments in the Starr office memo were correct and conclude that he wanted to ask a grand jury for an indictment while Mr. Trump is president — all big ifs — yet another uncertainty would loom: whether he must accept the Office of Legal Counsel’s analysis, even if he disagreed with it.

The Justice Department’s regulations give Mr. Mueller, as a special counsel, greater autonomy than an ordinary prosecutor, but still say he must follow its “rules, regulations, procedures, practices and policies.” They also permit Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein to overrule Mr. Mueller if he tries to take a step that Mr. Rosenstein deems contrary to such practices.

There is no guiding precedent about whether Office of Legal Counsel memos would fall into that category, or if a special counsel is free to reach his own legal judgments. But as Mr. Mueller’s office investigates, the ambiguity about the rules could influence calculations in the Trump camp about how much to cooperate and how much to fight, said Renato Mariotti, a former federal prosecutor turned defense lawyer.

“I would be surprised if Mueller indicted the president for the same prudential reasons that swayed Starr,” Mr. Mariotti said. “But the specter that he might do that could have an impact on things. If I were on the president’s team, I would say, ‘I don’t think it’s likely that he would, but it’s possible,’ depending on what the facts are.”


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Jul 23, 2017, 04:08 AM
If it weren’t true, it would be funny:

David Letterman on Trump: “If the guy was running Dairy Queen, he'd be gone. This guy couldn't work at the Gap.”

http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/341427-letterman-why-do-we-have-to-be-victimized-by-trump


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Deva on Jul 23, 2017, 10:12 AM
Hi Soleil,

In the future, instead of posting these articles, please simply provide
the link to the articles with a short description of what the articles
are. That way we save space on our server, and also this allows for
those interested to read the article(s) in question if they so want. We
really appreciate you involvement our the message board, and, of course,
the need to expose/ point out the reality of the evil called Trump. But,
in the future, please just post the links instead of the whole of an
article(s).

Namaste,

Deva


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Oct 07, 2017, 10:35 PM
Hi Rad,

Thanks for the articles you post on the Environment/Culture thread. Below are links (plus excerpts) to a few short pieces on Tom Dourson, an anti-EPA, pro chemical industry toxicologist who is about to be confirmed to the number two position at EPA.

It’s very disturbing that while Trump is distracting the country with his usual disgusting, corrupt and moronic behavior, he and his team are quietly dismantling many environmental, health and safety regulations, without much coverage in the mainstream media.

By the way, don’t Republicans have children? Do they not care that Trump is likely to make sick and possibly poison their children with his actions?

Trump’s Pick for EPA Safety Chief Argued Kids Are Less Sensitive to Toxins
Sharon Lerner, The Intercept, October 3 2017
 
https://theintercept.com/2017/10/03/epa-nominee-michael-dourson-toxic-chemicals/
 
Excerpts:
 
“Michael Dourson, the toxicologist who will be the subject of a confirmation hearing on Wednesday for what many consider the second most powerful post at the Environmental Protection Agency, has been hired by industry to consult on at least 30 of the chemicals he may be responsible for reviewing if he assumes office.
 
If confirmed as director of the EPA’s Office of Chemical Safety and Pollution Prevention, Dourson will be in a position to set safety levels for many of the same chemicals his company was paid to defend, including nine pesticides scheduled for scrutiny and 20 industrial compounds that may be evaluated under the recently updated chemical safety law.

With Dourson and 4 New Big Chem Nominees, Trump EPA Grows Increasingly Stacked with Industry Cronies
10/02/2017 02:09 pm ET
Linda Reinstein, Huffington Post
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/with-dourson-and-4-new-big-chem-nominees-trump-epa_us_59d271e3e4b0f58902e5ce59

Excerpts:
 
The EPA’s offices are being filled one by one with veterans of the chemical industry who are inclined to offer friendly benefits to their old colleagues, including Michael Dourson. His research firm, Toxicology Excellence for Risk Assessment (TERA), is known for conducting industry backed studies that are widely questioned by the scientific community.
 
Senator Tom Carper, Democrat of Delaware, told the New York Times “This is the first time anyone with such clear and extensive ties to the chemical industry has been picked to regulate that industry.”
 
Just this week, ACC (American Chemistry Council) nominated four of its own folk and fellow industry scientists to serve on the EPA’s new Science Advisory Committee on Chemicals. The people who make up this advisory committee matter. They’re the “experts” whose opinions will matter when the EPA is designing — or destroying — environmental regulations, and the results of these regulations have permanent impacts.

Trump nominee from Cincinnati Michael Dourson grilled at Senate hearing: 'Corporate lackey' or good scientist?
Deirdre Shesgreen, USA TODAY Published 4:13 p.m. ET Oct. 4, 2017
 
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/2017/10/04/trump-nominee-cincinnati-grmichael-dourson-grilled-during-confirmation-hearing-top-environmental-pos/730196001/

Excerpts:
 
In perhaps the most dramatic moment, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., choking back tears, said families in her state “are so frightened” by Dourson’s nomination because of his work, on behalf of DuPont, that seemed to downplay the risks of a possible carcinogen in the drinking water of a small upstate New York community. A few of those families were in the audience, visibly emotional as they absorbed the scene unfolding in the Senate Environment and Public Works hearing room.
 
In another tense moment, Sen. Tammy Duckworth, D-Ill., pressed Dourson to explain his work on behalf of Koch Industries in examining the health effects of petroleum coke on a community in Chicago. Duckworth asked him whether he agreed with EPA’s current assessment that dust from petroleum coke presents a health risk.

“Yes or no?” she asked.

“I’m not really ready to answer this question,” Dourson said.

“Then I don’t think you’re ready to work for the EPA,” Duckworth responded.


 


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Oct 09, 2017, 08:32 AM
Hi Soleil,   

"By the way, don’t Republicans have children? Do they not care that Trump is likely to make sick and possibly poison their children with his actions?"

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Most of those who call themselves Republicans now are so blinded by their own delusions that equal their sense of personal security that those delusions do not allow for actual facts to penetrate those delusions. Such actual facts are stiff armed by whatever delusions are necessary to block those facts from disturbing those delusions. This of course in reinforced by the self segregation of these people that believe the same delusions so as to prove to themselves that their delusions are in fact 'reality'.

Within this of course is the underlying stupidity of so many Americans in general. There is no other country on Earth for example in which about half of the entire population 'believes' that the Earth is less that 10,000 years old, and that humans existed at the same time as the dinosaurs.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Oct 09, 2017, 01:33 PM
Hi Rad,

Thanks for your thoughts. I agree completely. It feels like these delusions Republicans are blinded by and their corresponding unwillingness to believe facts is the product of decades of brainwashing by the right wing.

Jane Mayer’s “Dark Money” is the most thorough explanation I’ve found for how the billionaires behind this brainwashing have accomplished it.

A good article that explains it in a nutshell:

Dark Money review: Nazi oil, the Koch brothers and a rightwing revolution

Charles Kaiser

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/17/dark-money-review-nazi-oil-the-koch-brothers-and-a-rightwing-revolution

Excerpts:

The AEI was one of dozens of the new thinktanks bankrolled by hundreds of millions from the Kochs and their allies. Sold to the public as quasi-scholarly organizations, their real function was to legitimize the right to pollute for oil, gas and coal companies, and to argue for ever more tax cuts for the people who created them.
 
Next, the right turned its sights on American campuses. It bankrolled a whole new approach to jurisprudence called “law and economics”, Mayer writes, giving $10m to Harvard, $7m to Yale and Chicago, and over $2m to Columbia, Cornell, Georgetown and the University of Virginia.
 
Between 2005 and 2008, the Kochs alone spent nearly $25m on organizations fighting climate reform. One study by a Drexel University professor found 140 conservative foundations had spent $558m over seven years for the same purpose.
 
“The Heritage Foundation, the Cato Institute and Americans for Prosperity provided speakers, talking points, press releases, transportation, and other logistical support,” Mayer writes. As the writer Thomas Frank has pointed out, the genius of this strategy was to “turn corporate self-interest into a movement among people on the streets”.
 
The last element of this multi-pronged campaign saw the direct investment of hundreds of millions of dollars in political campaigns at every level, from president to city councillor.






Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Oct 25, 2017, 10:18 AM
Hi Soleil,

Here is an article I just found that directly connects to the nature of the consciousness of so many Americans that correlates to the underlying stupidity within them.  

How America’s charismatic Christianity helped fuel the fantasyland presidency of Trump: https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/how-americas-charismatic-christianity-helped-fuel-the-fantasyland-presidency-of-trump/

and

The religious right has come out of the closet — and it is everything its worst critics claimed: https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/the-religious-right-has-come-out-of-the-closet-and-it-is-everything-its-worst-critics-claimed/

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Oct 26, 2017, 02:00 PM
Hi Rad,

Thanks so much for the links to those articles. Really interesting.

I agree with what Kurt Anderson theorizes. I also think that a large segment of the population is being actively brainwashed (for ideological and financial reasons by people like the Koch brothers) into believing right wing evangelical Christian ideology and into not believing in science, facts and anything rational.

Do you think this brainwashing has gotten more potent and widespread (due to things like technology and more sophisticated methods like indoctrinating students at law schools and universities, as the Kochs and others have done) or do you think that there will always be a segment of the population that is prone to being brainwashed?

It just seems the consciousness of so many in this country is going back a few evolutionary steps and unfortunately this segment (approx. 1/3rd) of the population currently seems to have all the power.

Thanks for your insight. I appreciate your perspective.

All the best,

Soleil


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Oct 27, 2017, 08:33 AM
Hi Soleil,

"Do you think this brainwashing has gotten more potent and widespread (due to things like technology and more sophisticated methods like indoctrinating students at law schools and universities, as the Kochs and others have done) or do you think that there will always be a segment of the population that is prone to being brainwashed?"

***********

This all comes down to 'beliefs', and what people NEED to believe, at any given moment in time relative to whatever circumstances are manifesting in the existing context of an individuals or collective reality: sub-groups within the overall group of a country or society. Whole countries operate this way as well: witness N.Korea for example, or Russia wherein almost all information sources are controlled by Putin, China and controlled information, other countries where the information is not controlled yet subgroups choose to orientate to sources of information that validates what they already are needing to believe.

This is the essence of how Putin has infiltrated many countries now with an intent to destabilize those countries by way of planting information in various forums through which individuals, and subgroups, choose to 'believe' relative to their preexisting orientation to phenomenal reality, factual reality, in which they then project those beliefs in order to interpret that factual or phenomenal reality according to whatever the preexisting orientation to the factual or phenomenal reality is.

And, of course, Putin has a natal 9th House Pluto conjunct the S.Node the squares a 12th House Venus, and squares Jupiter in the 6th: a T-square. With his natal Lucifer in the 11th in Libra conjunct his Sun and Mercury, N.Node in Aquarius in the 3rd ruled by Uranus in the 8th in Cancer, which squares his Sun, Mercury, and Lucifer, you can see his master plan of manipulating and thus controlling information that is planted in various forums, groups, sub-groups, and whole countries including his own.

The phenomena of 'brainwashing' correlates in EA to the 11th House, Aquarius, and Uranus. His Uranus conjuncts Trump's Saturn, Venus, and his natal Lucifer in Trump's 11th House. And just as Putin has eliminated all objective, Uranus, 11th House, and Aquarius,  forms in information in his own country so too is Trump trying to do the same thing by way of his spluttering assertion of 'fake news' where the 'fake news' in anything other than what he or his media allies as in Fox news, etc, say it is. This evil type of 'brainwashing' is then 'believed' in by those THAT NEED TO BELIEVE IN IT.

On of the things that JWG pointed out in the English language is that in the middle of the word BELIEF stands the word LIE.


***********

"It just seems the consciousness of so many in this country is going back a few evolutionary steps and unfortunately this segment (approx. 1/3rd) of the population currently seems to have all the power"

*************

In America that is certainly true which is why American really is not a democracy at all: the minority can control the majority through not on the Electoral College system for presidential elections, but also through the evil and perverse 'gerrymandering' of all the congressional districts in that country. Within that is the fact it's Senate has I think 100 senators, two from each state, in which every senator has equal voting rights in the senate. Yet the populations of the various states are dramatically different from state to state. So all those 'red' states who have little populations compared to say California, New York, etc, which are 'blue' states, have an equal say. Another example of how the minority can control the majority. That is not democracy relative to 'one person, one equal vote'. And, within this, congresspeople and senators are supposedly elected by the 'people' in which they are meant to vote for the people who elected them. That is of course the opposite of the actual reality of that country wherein the 'elected' representatives vote for all the special interests that paid for them to get elected in the first place which are mainly corporations. In essence this is a kind of American fascism more than any kind of actual democracy.  

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Soleil- on Oct 29, 2017, 01:04 AM
Hi Rad,

What you wrote cuts to the heart of exactly what's happening in such a clear and accurate way---a really powerful and extremely perceptive explanation. I have not heard it better expressed. Thank you for that.

You are exactly right about your assessment of what Trump and Putin are doing and about how America is not really a democracy. I actually think the framers didn't quite get it right---they did not anticipate: having a president with this much power; having a president who is insane and mentally unhinged; and having all three branches of government controlled by the same house. There are currently no adequate checks and balances. The system is failing, and, as you said, this has become a kind of American fascism more than any kind of democracy.

Everything you said about the electoral college and gerrymandering is spot-on, and cuts to the heart of the current imbalance.

I like the reminder about what JWG pointed out---that the middle of the word belief contains the word lie. Lies are what brainwashing is all about, especially when those lies are repeated over and over and over, as the Republicans and their propaganda machines like Fox News and Breitbart are so good at doing.

Re Putin and Trump and the way they are operating, it seems as if (for lack of a better way of putting it), the bad guys are winning. From a karmic perspective, one would think that a person who commits evil on a consistent basis eventually will reap the fruits of that evil, but Trump and Putin seem to be getting away with all manner of scandals and evidence of corruption, criminal activity and abuse of power.

In Trump's case, his base and the majority of Republicans still love him, which I find UNBELIEVABLE, since to me he is one of the worst excuses of a human being to have ever walked this earth.

With souls like these, who don't seem to be highly developed, do the karmic repercussions of their actions take longer to manifest? Do you think Trump (and Putin) will have the rug pulled out from under them at some point soon or do you think they will continue to teflon their way out of everything?

Thanks again for your assessment. Really appreciate it.

All the best,

Soleil


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Oct 31, 2017, 05:53 AM
Hi Soleil,

"With souls like these, who don't seem to be highly developed, do the karmic repercussions of their actions take longer to manifest? Do you think Trump (and Putin) will have the rug pulled out from under them at some point soon or do you think they will continue to teflon their way out of everything?"

***********

We need to remember that once a Soul makes a contract with evil the supernatural powers gained reflect two core 'laws' of evil itself:

1. To confound the laws of nature: which  means to turn everything upside down

2. To create the opposite reality intended in any given circumstance

So the natural laws of karma, action /reaction, become confounded and turned upside down, the opposite reality created relative the the natural reactions to an action.

Yet, at least as of now, this all will right itself AT SOME POINT. The perfect example of this is Hitler. In the end he was destroyed. In the end the evil coward took his own life: forced too.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: dollydaydream on Oct 31, 2017, 07:07 AM
Hi Rad and Soleil,
Thanks for the comments, questions and answers.  In watching this evil administration unfold I am seeing the Truth of what JWG said and what we read here on the message board - that satan seeks to destroy and drive people apart and Goddess seeks to unite and bring people together.  That filthy specimen Steve Bannon himself stated that he wants to see everything blown up - "deconstructed" in his own words.  Trump hires people who despise the agencies they are supposed to run and therefore are complicit in that deconstruction.  Scott Pruitt is the perfect example of this.  He cares nothing for our beautiful planet and is in cahoots with the Koch brothers and their ilk.  Mike Pence is fully bought and paid for by the same duo.  Their latest endeavor is to further trash two national monuments in Utah.  One of these is Bears Ears Monument which is sacred to the Native Americans there - what about their rights??.  Everything these people touch is destroyed.  Trump even managed to drive a wedge into the heart of American football.  I am no fan of that particular sport, but I honestly never thought I would see something like that happen.  So a lot of what we learn here about how satan works is unfolding before our eyes and behind the scenes.  Its stunning.  DDD


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Soleil- on Oct 31, 2017, 01:51 PM
Hi Rad and DDD,

Thanks for that explanation, Rad, + I appreciate the reminder that, at some point, this will all right itself, as it did with Hitler.

DDD, I agree with everything you said. It’s painful to see evil humans like Trump, Bannon, Pence, Pruitt and the Kochs actively work on destroying the planet, among other things. I pray that the Mueller indictments mark the beginning of the end of this administration.

All the best,

Soleil


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: dollydaydream on Dec 22, 2017, 06:42 AM
Hi everyone, while the republican congress passed their greedy, compassionate-free giveaway to the filthy rich (aka the tax bill) I noticed that transiting lucifer was (and is) conjunct transiting Pluto/Cap.  In the USA chart, this is conjunct Pluto's own south node/8th, square Saturn/Libra/5th and inconjunct Mars/Gemini/1st.    There is a palpable sense of evil in the USA right now as the plutocrats and their sycophants on state-run TV  lie through their teeth while they plunder and try to justify the outright theft of money from the population.  The unequal distribution of wealth in this country is stunning and people are actually talking about a fight for the Soul of the Nation. 

In spite of all this darkness I am grateful for everyone on this MB, your contributions and hard work.  Special Thanks to Deva, Rad and Kristin for making this beautiful space possible.  Happy Holidays to everyone.  DDD


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Dec 22, 2017, 07:20 AM
Hi DDD,

And we are grateful for you participation on the mb as well DDD. It is truly sad and beyond to see what is happening in America. As some of that country's former intelligence experts, former heads of the CIA, have begun to say that Trump is an 'asset' of Putin's. In other words he is operating an a agent of Putin's that is attempting to destroy America from within itself. The current manifestation of this is the effort by Trump, and his 'allies' to destroy the credibility of all of America's trusted institutions like the FBI, the objective media, all of the intelligence agencies, and existing structures of the entire government itself. In so doing, getting the citizens to turn on themselves: to destroy from within.

Within this the Republican party, parts of it anyway, desiring to restructure America into a fascist nation in which the oligarchs, and the corporations they own, create a reality in which they can permanently rule and control the entirety of the country. Like masters and slaves.

To me America still has the capacity via it's citizens to retake control from these Zarathustra's. This can only happen through a massive grass roots effort by local citizens in every part of the country running for various political offices, winning those elections, and then rebuilding the nation from the inside out. This is what the increasing Pluto return for that country, the transit over it's own S.Node, is about.

God Bless, Rad   


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Nerissa on Dec 22, 2017, 10:39 AM
Thanks DDD - pointing out the current Lucifer conjunct Pluto.
Usually I don't have a TV but current circumstances I am subjected to one occasionally. When the so called 'news' is on, it's a horror show having to actually see & hear these evil twits: Trump & Ryan especially. My reaction is visceral: literal chills crawl up my spine. Ugh
But the other day Watching them I knew the knowledge that soon they'll be having the light of God shine into all that darkness and expose them for who they are.
Let's hope Lucifer as bearer of light
Americans need to remember that we are the government - to empower themselves from the inside out & counteract the defeatist attitudes that enable these goons to create these realities.
As much as we can see the evil, conversely it's a good time to visualize the power of light to shine & reverse that darkness. Shine a light into the 'powers that be' in the government & expose them, & place the 'authority' back where it belongs: in the hands of the people. (Conjunction in Capricorn)


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Dec 23, 2017, 10:08 PM
Hi Rad, DDD and Nerissa,

Great comments. Well said.  I agree 100% with all of you. DDD, you are so right that there is a palpable sense of evil in the country right now.  The Koch brothers and the Mercers and the handful of other Republican mega-wealthy donors are currently controlling every lever of government. The tax bill is strictly for them and for the already-wealthy Republicans in Congress. The fact that 83% of the benefit will go to the top .1%, while the elderly, sick, disabled and poor will get shafted is disgusting.

Among other things, this bill will trigger an automatic $25 billion cut in Medicare (which the Repubs will defer till after the 2018 elections) and will cause such a deficit that the Republicans will use it as an excuse to cut/gut Social Security, Social Security Disability, and Medicare. Their aim is to completely destroy these programs. The Republican donor class and their House and Senate congressional puppets actually despise the sick and the poor, and think if you’re ill or poor it’s your fault. They don’t care about children unless the child is an unborn fetus. They will die for unborn fetuses, but once a kid is born, they don’t give a crap.

Nerissa, I have the same reaction as you do when I see Trump and Ryan (for me, McConnell as well). Pure evil radiates from these beings. Great suggestion of yours to visualize the power of light. I also visualize the power of truth. The truth eventually always comes out.

Rad, you are exactly right about Trump being Putin’s asset. Without Putin, Trump’s illegitimate ever-so-slight win would not have occurred. And, as you said so well, Trump and his allies are trying to destroy and dismantle every good part of our government and trusted institutions, including fact-based media, the EPA, the State Department, the FBI, and, especially important, the courts.  He’s installing right wing extremists to the Supreme Court and to the federal circuit and appeals courts who will have lifetime appointments. This will have a major effect on our ability to have the proper checks and balances on this evil despot.

I agree with what you said about the fact that we still have the capacity to regain control via grassroots efforts. That will take energy, stamina and strength. What I’ve noticed is that Trump and the Repubs are so good at being evil and have relentless energy behind it. Every day they manage to pound us with new destructive actions.

Have you seen anything in the current transits and/or progressed chart of the US for 2018 that correlates with the resistance movement and the corresponding energy it will take to keep it going? Resisting seems to take a lot more energy than relentlessly creating evil.

On the bright side, more Democrats than ever are running for elected office in 2018, in far greater numbers than are Republicans. I pray that this blue wave enables us to take back the majority in the House and Senate. It's doable.

Best to all,

Soleil

p.s. One small victory---Michael Dourson, the chemical industry executive I complained about a few posts back who was about to be nominated to the 2nd most important job at the EPA, was withdrawn as a candidate last week. I guess some of the protests about him had an effect. One can only hope his replacement is not as evil.




Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Dec 26, 2017, 09:56 AM
Hi Soleil,

"Have you seen anything in the current transits and/or progressed chart of the US for 2018 that correlates with the resistance movement and the corresponding energy it will take to keep it going? Resisting seems to take a lot more energy than relentlessly creating evil."

This is reflected and symbolized by the Saturn transit now moving into Capricorn, and into the USA's 8th House. That transit will progressively conjunct the it's S.Node of Jupiter, and Pluto itself which is just now being conjuncted by the Pluto transit itself. Progressively that Saturn transit will also OPPOSE it's Sun, Venus, and Jupiter in it's 2nd House. It will also square it's natal Saturn in it's 5th House. Resistance as an archetype is the 8th house, Scorpio, and Pluto. Rebellion relative to that resistance is Aquarius, the 11th House, and Uranus.

The long term transit of Pluto is what symbolized the core transition of the reality of that country as it moves ever closer to it's natal Pluto in the 9th, and it's S.Node there as well. These are culmination symbols now that is reflected in the white majority fearing the the loss of 'their' country via the increasing demographic changes manifesting around 2040 when the Hispanic population becomes the majority in America. Pluto will move into Aquarius in 2024: another presidential election year. Progressively that transit will move first over the USA's S.Node, the on to it's natal Moon in Aquarius in it's 10th House. Demographics correlate to the 10th House, Capricorn, and Saturn.

An increasing coalition of women, minority groups, and young people is that part of the population that will accomplish the opposition to all the white nationalists who are ever so desperately clinging on to their past.  Here is a link to an article in the NY Times that reflects what is beginning to happen: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/24/us/democrats-house-control-2018-midterms.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news


God bless, Rad


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Dec 27, 2017, 12:31 AM
Hi Rad,

Thanks for that explanation. Very helpful to see it laid out that way. Thanks also for the article—it’s hopeful.

All the best,

Soleil


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Feb 18, 2018, 01:44 AM
Hi Rad,

Although those of us who believe in facts, truth, justice and integrity are not in a position of political power right now and so are limited in terms of what we can do to stop this evil administration, I do believe that consciousness itself has power, even when physical action is limited---that the thoughts we hold and the things we turn our attention to matter and can have an effect.

What do you think is the most powerful and effective way to hold our consciousness right now in the face of evil which we have no control over? I know it’s a difficult question….just wanted to know your thoughts.

Regards,

Soleil





Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: dollydaydream on Feb 18, 2018, 07:31 AM
Hi Soleil, I have been contemplating that same issue.  During meditation I imagine all the other people in the world who are also meditating.  I hold God/Good/Universe in my heart and consciously connect with, and project  Love, everywhere.  I reckon the Love from all the people who are consciously doing the same thing helps to counteract the influence of evil.  I also try to watch my thoughts so as not to give in to negative mental patterns.  I honestly think Love is the most powerful force in the Universe so if everyone practices connecting with Love, it's got to be helping.  We all need to do our bit for Goddess behind the scenes.  That's my two cents...DDD


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Feb 19, 2018, 07:08 AM
Hi Soleil,

For me it manifests as taking the long view: holding one's consciousness within it. This means what I mentioned in an earlier post with you about the natural sweep of time in the context of America: the demographic changes that will turn that country brown, and the progressive coalition between women, minorities, and the young people who will progressively vote out the evil stain manifesting now in the form of Trump, but more importantly the Republican party itself that is ALLOWING all this to occur. They are indeed the underbelly of the racist, white, nationalists that are doing all they can to sustain their power. So knowing that, in the long run, this stain will be removed.

At the same time joining forces with other humans who are of like mind who will facilitate these changes so they can happen as quickly as possible.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Feb 19, 2018, 08:08 PM
Hi Rad and DDD,

Thanks for your thoughts, DDD. I appreciate and agree with everything you said. Glad to hear there are like-minded others who feel the same way.

Thanks, Rad. What you said is very wise---taking the long view and holding your consciousness within it.

You’re right, the Republican party is allowing the evil and is the foundation of it. Can’t wait to get them out of power. Hope it’s sooner than later.

All the best,

Soleil


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Jun 10, 2018, 08:22 AM
Hi Rad,

Recent polls show Trump's approval numbers are rising---currently at 44%, as high as it's ever been for him. With more evidence of his corrupt behavior coming out all the time, not to mention his constant lying and bizarre behavior, (such as rambling like a madman on TV, making no sense whatsoever) I'm stunned that his approval ratings keep going up and that the Democrats' generic ballot numbers have decreased. Any thoughts?

The media isn't helping. Even non-Fox outlets are far too deferential to him and they all allow him to drive the narrative, no matter how nonsensical it is. The few Democrats and pundits who checked him on TV at the beginning of the administration have backed way off.

I find it sickening that almost no one on broadcast television (which the general public seems to pay more attention to than print media) has the guts to tell the truth about this clown---that this clearly delusional crook/ conman/pathological liar/malignant narcissist/ignoramus/moron, who is in effect an agent for the Russian government, has no business being in charge of this country. Since the cowardly and morally bankrupt Republicans refuse to check him, someone has to, yet I find the pushback against him to be severely lacking. Any thoughts on why the criticism on broadcast TV has become even more muted?

Thanks.

Soleil


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: Rad on Jun 11, 2018, 05:47 AM
Hi Soleil,

What is happening in America is happening in most countries around the world: nationalism. Nationalism becomes a code word for racism. This is happening of course because of the increasing demographic changes in so many countries now. So in America that means white superiority, class advantage, and so on just like in these other countries. Look at the last election in Italy for example. The fact that Orban of Hungary is now lecturing in different countries in Europe about anti[-immigration policies, and the need for them in order to sustain Europe as it was. Even in Denmark the right wing freaks are taking over...Denmark of all  places. So the rise in the polls for evil buffoons like Trump reflect this.

It is the economic interests of the corporate media in America that is the cause of how they 'present' the 'news'.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: dollydaydream on Jun 11, 2018, 06:19 AM
Hi Soleil, I agree trump has been able to get away with a lot and maximizing corporate profit is most often the number one priority.  However, some of MSNBC's journalists do call out his lies, vulgarities and general disgraceful behavior (they actually call them lies rather than "untruths" or "misleading statements".)  A regular guest on some MSNBC shows is Republican strategist Steve Schmidt and he does not hold back in his criticism of trump.  Also Rachel Maddow and her associates have done a great job of sleuthing into trump's background connections to the Russian mob and other creeps.  I was actually concerned for her personal safety for a while there.  I am thankful for those honest and courageous journalists who are shining the light on truth and showing us what is really going on behind the scenes.   DDD


Title: Re: Jeffrey’s perspective on the election?
Post by: soleil on Jun 11, 2018, 01:40 PM
Hi Rad and Dollydaydream,

Rad, what you said is sadly truly---that racism is on the rise worldwide. I just find it disturbing that the rise in Trump's poll numbers show that his base may be expanding. You're also right when you say it's in the corporate media's interest to present the news as they do.

Dollydaydream, I agree with you that there are a couple of people on MSNBC who do speak out, especially Rachel Maddow and, as you mentioned, Steve Schmidt. Maxine Waters is one of the few Democrats who tells it like it is re Trump. I just wish other Democrats would speak up forcefully. I just feel there is an absence of real outrage about this tyrannical evil clown. Unfortunately, he and his lies and corruption have become normalized.

Thanks.

Soleil