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Title: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: adina on Apr 23, 2010, 11:12 PM
Jeffrey Wolf Green’s Method of Eliminating LEARNED Masochism

This is a very simple technique, and it’s absolutely free (except for the price of a cassette tape). (I may have to bow to the king of technology here – Steve – for instructions on how to do this on a CD or an MP3 player or iPod.)

1.  Take a sheet of notebook paper and fold it down the middle. On the left side, list every negative message you’ve ever received from whatever person at any time. Take at least a week to do this—longer if necessary, AND use as many pieces of paper as necessary. (I think I had six pages, and I wrote on them front and back). If you’re like most of us who’ve done this, you’ll find that many of the negative messages have been coming from yourself.

Ex. Mary, you’re just no good for anything.

2.  Once you’re sure you’ve written down all the negative messages, then on the right side of the paper, across from each of the negative messages, write a positive, counteractive message.

Ex.  Mary’s response to above. "No. That’s only their opinion of me. It’s not a fact. I am good for lots of things, and can, in fact, do many things very well." (Notice that even if we start with a negative, the majority of the message is said in positive language).

Once you have all your positive/counteractive messages written down, take a 90-minute tape and record each of the messages in your own voice, saying them like you really MEAN them.  You may find this difficult at first because the statements don’t FEEL right to you. But be the best actor you can be and read each one with positive conviction.

You need to fill only one side of the tape. Since you will be playing this as you go to sleep, if you have difficulty falling asleep right away, or the sound of voices keeps you awake, then leave about the first 20 minutes of the tape blank before you start to record your messages. The remaining 25 minutes of the tape will be more than enough to accomplish your purpose.

Now…. Each night – for the next four to six months (MINimum of four) when you go to bed, try to place your tape recorder as close to your right side as possible, turn on your tape (If you sleep with a partner, use ear phones) and go to sleep. The messages will enter through your right ear and, thus, affect the left brain. (According to Jeffrey this is a shamanic technique). This is different from saying affirmations when you’re awake because when you’re asleep the left brain can’t argue or discount the information. It’s absolutely CRUCIAL to do this EVERY NIGHT for the four to six months – do not skip even one night. For if you miss a night, the “chain” of positive reinforcement in your brain is broken, and you have to start all over again.

Another thing to keep in mind is that since this simple practice radically changes your consciousness, freeing you from what can be thousands of years of guilt and not feeling ready enough or good enough, Lucifer will do it’s darnedest to make sure this sift doesn’t happen. Incredibly stupid things can happen. It actually took me 16 months to get through a full six months without interruption. I don’t want anyone to dwell on that part, but do be AWARE and take appropriate precautions. For example, make sure you have new batteries (if necessary) on a regular basis, etc.

After a week or so, you’ll start to notice that with each day you’ll feel a little ‘lighter,’ a little bit stronger, and little bit happier or more content. You’ll start to feel empowered and like you ARE ready enough and/or good enough to take on something you want to do.

Since there’s strength in numbers, if you plan to do this and are open to sharing that you ARE doing it (no need to give details of the messages, etc.), please post your name here for mutual support and encouragement from others doing this, too. Then perhaps you could set up an email support group.

This is an amazing technique to rid oneself of the learned masochism, and I wish any and all of you who try this the greatest success and a new lease on life. If you have ANY questions or comments, please post them in this thread.

God Bless.


Title: Re: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: stephen on Apr 24, 2010, 09:32 AM
Adina,

  Thank you very much for taking the time to post this technique.

  I am certain I could use it...and will! :)

Blessings,
Stephen


Title: Re: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: Elen on Apr 25, 2010, 03:03 PM
Hi Adina,

Thanks for posting this technique.  I was planning on doing it sometime down the road, but my mind has already begun working on it.  As I walk through my days, negative statements needing to be countered keep coming to mind.  I didn't know they were still there in such force!

Peace,
Ellen


Title: Re: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: mountainheather on Apr 25, 2010, 03:05 PM
Thanks Adina!! I wrote in the "evil" thread that I'd lost this post, but here it is, thank you for the new start. in light, Heather.


Title: Re: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: Dhyana on Apr 26, 2010, 04:02 AM
I am going to ask my children if they want to do this. Maybe I can introduce it playfully to them.
How beautiful to have kids do this early on 8 and 15.  

Adina, do you think children/teens, need to have the full 4 months --bc they may not be as steeped in it yet? i ask bc i dont know if they will go consistently the full four months, being kids, u know?

thanks,
dhyana


Title: Re: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: Gonzalo on May 13, 2010, 09:21 AM
Hi Adina

There is something I would like to ask you about this technique:

How does it interface with natural guilt and its role of realigning the Soul with natural law?

Thank you so much

God Bless,

Gonzalo


Title: Re: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: mountainheather on May 13, 2010, 10:36 AM
Hi everyone,
I have started this technique, I would like to add to my list of affirmations as I go, since more seem to be coming up as my consciousness is changing... do you think adding to my list will interfere or interrupt the process? Thank you many times over Adina. Heather 


Title: Re: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: adina on May 15, 2010, 02:49 PM
Steve just alerted me that these questions were here. So sorry I missed them, and I apologize for the delay; I've been going thru some rough physical problems lately for several reasons. I WILL try to get back here by tomorrow at the latest to answer these.

God bless,
Adina


Title: Re: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: mountainheather on May 15, 2010, 08:00 PM
Thanks Adina, whenever you feel well enough. With best
wishes for you, Heather


Title: Re: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: adina on May 16, 2010, 10:05 AM
Hi Dhyana,

I am going to ask my children if they want to do this. Maybe I can introduce it playfully to them.
How beautiful to have kids do this early on 8 and 15.  

Adina, do you think children/teens, need to have the full 4 months --bc they may not be as steeped in it yet? i ask bc i dont know if they will go consistently the full four months, being kids, u know?

thanks,
dhyana

First, I would ask what behaviors your daughters and son have that you think indicate masochism? And have you read Pluto II in which Wolf went into detail about the sado-masochistic archetypes?

While there ARE many masochists because of the Christian conditioning of a PERFECT God of the last 2,000 years, not everyone is a masochist. Chart markers of masochism can include the nodal axis in 6/12 or Virgo/Pisces, Pluto in Virgo, Mars in Virgo, a stellium of planets in Virgo or Pisces or the 6th or 12th houses, etc. But even those alone do not necessarily indicate masochism. Again, we have to play astrological detective and employ observation and correlation of the person's thoughts and behaviors in order to determine this for sure; i.e. one would also have to display masochistic behaviors. Typically, if the chart reveals some of these placements AND you see a soul who is not actualizing their evolutionary intentions, that could indicate a masochist.

In relation to children not being "steeped" in it yet, masochism will be reflected in a chart because it began BEFORE this lifetime, since the chart reflects the past, as experienced in the present, which leads to the future. When it's a young child, Wolf advocated the parents whispering the counteractive methods (for this and other conditions) in the child's right ear every night after the child had fallen asleep, and to do this for the four months, although sometimes the results start to appear much sooner.

I hope this helps, Dhyana. Let me know if you have more questions.


Title: Re: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: adina on May 16, 2010, 10:37 AM
Hi Gonzalo,

Hi Adina

There is something I would like to ask you about this technique: How does it interface with natural guilt and its role of realigning the Soul with natural law?

Thank you so much.  God Bless,  Gonzalo

Well, from my own personal experience, in relation to what JWG explained to me years ago, this technique helps eliminate LEARNED guilt, not natural guilt. Even in natural law we can experience natural guilt. But, at this point in our history we're just beginning to learn how to distinguish between natural guilt and the guilt we can feel by comparing ourselves to a "perfect" God.  I think it boils down to a simple (Pisces) process of asking in any of these situations just WHAT the basis of the guilt is; i.e., whether it's rooted in man-made laws or natural laws. And as one asks that question more and more, I think we can start to weed out the source of any guilt. Even with the natural guilt, we need to remember that as Wolf used to put it, "God has goofed up, so why wouldn't WE goof up?"  And another (Piscean) question: How can anything perfect create something IMperfect. It's really a shift in this understanding of "perfection" that I think helps in our understanding of natural law, and ultimately the forgiveness for both ourselves and others.

Hope this helps, Gonzalo. Feel free to ask more.

God Bless, Adina


Title: Re: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: adina on May 16, 2010, 10:45 AM
Hi Heather,

Hi everyone,
I have started this technique, I would like to add to my list of affirmations as I go, since more seem to be coming up as my consciousness is changing... do you think adding to my list will interfere or interrupt the process? Thank you many times over Adina. Heather 

If you mean that you've started listening to your tape, then my take on this is that those affirmations that you started with and those that add as you go could take different lengths of time to come to resolution/elimination. Perhaps you could give yourself more time to write down the negative messages and their positive counterparts before redoing your tape and then get them all under one "blanket" tape.

Also, please realize that since masochism is rooted in the Virgo archetype, the famous list of things to do could be endless. I'd suggest you take a good look and/or listen to both the negative and positive messages and see if some of the ones that are emerging are simply more "detailed" (Virgo) versions of some of your original messages OR if they're completely different. If they're simply "offshoots" of the originals, but BASED in them, I'd just keep your tape going as is.  If they really are 'new' or different, then add them and start again.  :)

God bless,
Adina


Title: Re: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: mountainheather on May 17, 2010, 12:36 AM
Hi Adina,
Thank you for taking the time and energy to reply. This moment,
 it feels hard to take on this exercise, but your efforts to
support us even with your challenges has shored up my resolve
to persist with thwarting negative programming. I will do as you suggest.
With gratitude and faith, Heather


Title: Re: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: adina on May 17, 2010, 05:43 AM
I'm glad to hear you're proceeding, Heather. I agree that it's a BIG task, and I've heard many people over the years say that one of the hardest parts is reading the affirmations onto the tape, as "it doesn't sound TRUE."  I've told them, "That's EXACTLY why you're doing it!"  LOL  So if you, or anyone else is having trouble with reading the affirmations out loud for the tape, just take a deep breath and be the best actor you can be and say your lines with all the conviction in your voice that you can muster! Having done this technique myself, I can vouch for its effectiveness.

Many blessings as you take on this "project" of self-empowerment, Heather!


Title: Re: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: Gonzalo on May 17, 2010, 06:45 PM
Hi Adina,

Thank you so much for your reply.

“Well, from my own personal experience, in relation to what JWG explained to me years ago, this technique helps eliminate LEARNED guilt, not natural guilt. Even in natural law we can experience natural guilt. But, at this point in our history we're just beginning to learn how to distinguish between natural guilt and the guilt we can feel by comparing ourselves to a "perfect" God.”

This is very interesting. So, there would exist as three types of guilt (?):

1) learned guilt which is based on man-made law
2) natural guilt which is based on natural law
3) a “guilt” originated in the comparison of self and God, which would be intensified by the man-made concept that God is perfect, because it would distort the feeling of imperfection of self.

I am fascinated by this distinction.

Given that these three types of guilt produce a compounded effect in the emotional body, and from there induce all kinds of undermining thoughts and subconscious desires to atone, it would seem that it is quite difficult to know which is which. Deep analysis of the experience of feeling guilty would allow to separate the causes and to identify how they interact.

I will be reflecting on the above and hope I will be able to come back with more questions and some further insight. I may take some time, though, because I am currently almost depleted of energy.

Thank you again Adina. What you wrote to me is really helpful.

God Bless you,

Gonzalo


Title: Re: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: adina on May 17, 2010, 08:49 PM
Gonzolo,

Ah, I think maybe I wasn't clear on something; there are really TWO BASIC types of guilt: man-made guilt(learned) based on religious, philosophical, psychological, etc. beliefs, and natural guilt (earned), based on our actions that are out of alignment with NATURAL Laws. I think for the most part the majority of the learned guilt DOES go back to what we think is "right" and "wrong" based on man-made religions.

I'm a bit tired, but I did want to clear up that "third type" of guilt if I could before turning in for the night. 

This may have been covered elsewhere on the board, but IN GENERAL, EARNED guilt will be reflected in the symbols of Saturn/Capricorn/10th house, while the LEARNED guilt are more likely to come thru the symbols of Virgo/Pisces and their respective rulers and houses. These, of course, are just two places to START looking for patterns of guilt.

Some of figuring this out within ourselves will unfold as we evolve and realign with Natural Laws, but much can also be gleaned now if we simply reflect on the reasons for ANY kind of guilt we feel and then the SOURCE of those reasons. For example, if I beat my child to the point he needs hospitalized, I know (even if it's only deep down within and not necessarily conscious) that I have done something inherently wrong. On the other hand, If I get a divorce and feel guilty because whatever church says it's a "sin" to get divorced, then I've taken on an unnecessary guilt based on some humans' ideas about what is right and wrong. Even in countries where religion has been banned, the old USSR, for example, I could be found "guilty" of and punished for not bowing to the emperor because that's one of the laws of the country. However, to not bow to another human being isn't intrinsically "wrong;" it's only "wrong" because it's a man-made rule, and therefore actual guilt is unnecessary.

I hope this helps, Gonzalo, and that I haven't made things more confusing. I'll recheck this in the morning to see how much sense it makes after a good night's sleep.   :D   LOL


Title: Re: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: Elen on May 18, 2010, 12:27 AM
Hi Adina,
I just wanted to jump in to sah how much I appreciate your posts.  Your explanations are always so clear & full of insight,  learning & wisdom.  I just wanted to say thank you.
Peace,
Ellen


Title: Re: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: mountainheather on Jun 10, 2010, 01:03 PM
Hi,
I've been doing this for about 3 weeks now and have been noticing a change.  Right now there seems to be an increase in the intensity of the negative voice and an increase in the number of situations in which the negative voice would normally arise for me, and yet I am more alert to recognize what is happening.

I can't say I'm dominating the battle but I can feel how much my soul is aligning with and calling out to the Divine Mother to help me transform, and I have been praying steadily to Green Tara for protection and guidance. And in that way there is actually no battle, only the choice to repeatedly align my thoughts with what ideas and images God is giving to me all the time about what is true and real.
A work in progress.

So I just thought I'd post and say thank you for this technique, and share blessings with anyone else who is taking this on,

In the green of spring, Heather



Title: Re: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: adina on Jun 11, 2010, 09:07 AM
Hi Heather,

What you explained that you've been experiencing is certainly how this effort can work; i.e., the negative (or Lucifer) steps in and tries to do everything possible to stop change from happening, AND the kind of change that results in a person becoming more strong within and/or aligning with God. Any positive change at all will attract the 'force' that wants to keep that from happening.

So, first, thank you very much for sharing your own experience with both the negative energy you're dealing with and what you are doing/aligning with to counteract this negative force. Bravo. And I'm here to cheer you on to keep going. As you said, you've already noticed some change, so imagine what you'll feel like after 4-6 months of this practice!  

God bless, you, Heather, and God bless Jeffrey for bringing the archetype of masochism out into the open, and then this method to heal it. As he said many times, this archetype is MEANT to come to a head at this time, and I remember that he also said that he asked God'dess to send him all the masochists s/he could find and he would help them. And help them, he did.   :)


Title: Re: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: adina on Jun 11, 2010, 09:10 AM
Ellen, I'm just glad I can pass on this wonderful technique that Jeffrey brought to us and has helped me, too! 

Blessings, and all the best with your move.

Adina



Title: Re: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: Gonzalo on Jun 24, 2010, 10:41 PM
Hi Adina

Thank you for your post and I apologize for my delay in responding.

I understand your clarification: guilt is a Capricorn, 10th House phenomenon. It can be originated in an intrinsic wrongdoing, ie. acting against natural law: natural guilt. It can also originate in acting according to natural law but against man-made laws or beliefs, because of the judgment, criticism or persecution received from society: induced guilt.  The desire to improve, becoming a desire to atone, is part of the Virgo archetype. When the desire to atone (Virgo) is linked to guilt (Capricorn), the pathology of masochism can manifest.

The desire to improve can derive in a desire to become perfect. Under patriarchal conditioning the ultimate ideal of perfection (Pisces) the Soul may want to achieve is defined by a patriarchal male “perfect” God of human form (Capricorn). This involves a projection of the human form of consciousness, and even, of this form of consciousness as conditioned by patriarchy. Under this type of religious conditioning the desire to improve translates into a desire to atone, basically because spirit is considered to be antagonistic to body/flesh, and further because human nature is viewed in total as “fallen”, thus implying a cause of guilt by itself and a reason to atone. This type of guilt is induced guilt and not a third type of guilt.

I feel that both types of guilt can compound and induce or increase masochism. That could be the case, for instance, when a masochist acts against natural law thus deepening its feeling of guilt and becoming even more masochist than he/she was before.

Thank you again, Adina.

God Bless,

Gonzalo


Title: Re: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: mountainheather on Nov 02, 2010, 09:57 AM
Hi all,
I've been doing this practice for four months, and will continue for another two. Is anyone else doing this practice? I have questions. Thanks, Heather.


Title: Re: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: Gonzalo on Nov 09, 2010, 03:28 PM
Hi Heather,

I am doing this practice now, though, have just began with it two nights ago.

God Bless,

Gonzalo


Title: Re: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: mountainheather on Nov 11, 2010, 09:06 PM
Hi Gonzalo,
Thanks for responding, and may Light bless you as you go.  
Heather


Title: Re: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: Gonzalo on Nov 11, 2010, 09:47 PM
Thank you Heather. May Light Bless you too.

Gonzalo


Title: Re: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: mountainheather on Jan 26, 2011, 11:12 AM
Hi,
I completed about six months of doing this every night.  I stopped just before Christmas. I would say this practice definitely intensified my conscious awareness of self undermining behaviours and consequently I feel like I am mire flawed than before I started!! I understand that this is due to the fact that this practice has dredged my uncunscious/subconscious and the material is just coming to light. Or that's what I imagine. My question is would you recommend doing this again with a new set of affirmations? I don't want to overload myself with too much. I do have quite a bit of Virgo including Pluto mars and Uranus all in the tenth squared the nodes. If anyone has done this, have you done it more than once, or if you find lots of material what do you suggest as a way to continue the process? Thank you very much Jeffrey. Thank you Adina for sharing the technique.
Blessings, Heather


Title: Re: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: Rad on Jan 28, 2011, 11:19 AM
Hi Mountainheather,

 My suggestion now would be to focus on the 'solutions' to every dynamic that you are now aware  of that is the cause of the self undermining behavior. So rather than focus now on those dynamics focus on the solutions by way of affirmations, over and over. By focusing in this way it creates an internal dynamic wherein the focusing of the positive solutions progressively changes the existing 'tapes' within the subconscious, or individuated unconscious, in which the self undermining tapes/ messages exist.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: mountainheather on Jan 29, 2011, 01:33 PM
Hi Rad,
Thank you.  Just to check if I understand, you are saying instead of focussing on balancing the negative voice with a positive affirmation, I actually in fact only listen to the emerging positive direction and then eventually that will take root in the sub/unconscious and the negative will naturally lose ground. It seems so simple to do this with the conscious mind. Is the subconscious typically more habituated and attached to patterns than the conscious? Thank you for the support.
Heather


Title: Re: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: Rad on Jan 30, 2011, 08:49 AM
Hi mountainheather,

"It seems so simple to do this with the conscious mind. Is the subconscious typically more habituated and attached to patterns than the conscious? Thank you for the support."

*****************

Yes, it is this simple, or can be that simple. Yes, the subconscious dynamics are much more difficult to change that the conscious mind. This is is why the necessity of repetition in order to change those existing dynamics: water does ware down rock.  .

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: Steve on Jan 31, 2011, 11:38 PM
hi Heather

I would like to add to what Rad said from my personal story.  I have a Moon/Mars conjunction in 6th and Virgo on MC so I know a few things about it.

I went through Pluto over Asc in the most intense period of my life.  The gist of it was prior to that time I was focused on everything in my life that was wrong, not enough, what was lacking, where I was never good enough, etc etc.  Going through that time I was taught from within to start practicing accepting myself exactly the way that I was, including accepting what I could NOT accept.  I was asked to look at the fact that I had been beating myself up about my failings life long, and that strategy had not resulted in much change.

I was directed to look at my life, to find the parts that were working - even if they were only 10%, and everything else was not acceptable to me- to concentrate on the 10% and grow it, rather than to concentrate on the 90% and try to improve it (Virgo).  Over the course of some years that changed my life around in ways I never dreamt could be possible.

The best part of this from my perspective is while I was learning to accept myself, I also learned I didn't have to LIKE who I saw myself as, or all I had to go through.  I only had to accept it.  Interestingly, as I learned (learning?) to accept myself, a love of who I am at my core just developed by itself, no special effort required on my part.  It just gradually appeared, an appreciation of who I really am at my core.

That is how I gradually changed many of my negative subconcious orientations away from what is wrong, what is lacking, what is not enough.  Its still an ongoing process - those patterns are very deep.  But with enough determination and ongoing effort, even when its not fun, I know from experience that much turning around of deeply ingrained subconscious patterns can be accomplished.  And the results prove very worth all the required effort.
Steve


Title: Re: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: Dhyana on Feb 01, 2011, 04:51 AM
Steve,

The gift of sharing your own intimate direct experience with us is felt in the core of the heart and speaks volumes there.

Thank You Soul Friend,
Dhyana


Title: Re: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: mountainheather on Feb 01, 2011, 12:23 PM
Rad,
Quote
Yes, it is this simple, or can be that simple. Yes, the subconscious dynamics are much more difficult to change that the conscious mind. This is is why the necessity of repetition in order to change those existing dynamics: water does ware down rock.  .

 The relief of simplicity is elusive in the grind of the process sometimes. I so appreciate that you have shared with me this at this point. I was starting to lose the point of why I had started the technique in the first place! Thank you!

Steve,
 
Quote
hi Heather

I would like to add to what Rad said from my personal story.  I have a Moon/Mars conjunction in 6th and Virgo on MC so I know a few things about it.

I went through Pluto over Asc in the most intense period of my life.  The gist of it was prior to that time I was focused on everything in my life that was wrong, not enough, what was lacking, where I was never good enough, etc etc.  Going through that time I was taught from within to start practicing accepting myself exactly the way that I was, including accepting what I could NOT accept.  I was asked to look at the fact that I had been beating myself up about my failings life long, and that strategy had not resulted in much change.

I was directed to look at my life, to find the parts that were working - even if they were only 10%, and everything else was not acceptable to me- to concentrate on the 10% and grow it, rather than to concentrate on the 90% and try to improve it (Virgo).  Over the course of some years that changed my life around in ways I never dreamt could be possible.

The best part of this from my perspective is while I was learning to accept myself, I also learned I didn't have to LIKE who I saw myself as, or all I had to go through.  I only had to accept it.  Interestingly, as I learned (learning?) to accept myself, a love of who I am at my core just developed by itself, no special effort required on my part.  It just gradually appeared, an appreciation of who I really am at my core.

That is how I gradually changed many of my negative subconcious orientations away from what is wrong, what is lacking, what is not enough.  Its still an ongoing process - those patterns are very deep.  But with enough determination and ongoing effort, even when its not fun, I know from experience that much turning around of deeply ingrained subconscious patterns can be accomplished.  And the results prove very worth all the required effort.
Steve


I really really really needed to hear that. Thank you.  Focussing on the 10% that's working and accepting that I can't accept something just opened my mind into a much bigger field.  The "value is in the effort" just made even more sense.  Thank you, I pray I support others with kindness as I have been supported here.

Heather







 




Title: Re: Technique to eliminate masochism
Post by: Linda on Feb 01, 2011, 02:07 PM
Even though I am not undertaking this practice, I have learned so much from this thread.  The information itself is enlightening and can be applied to oneself.  I also needed to hear this information, especially the part about self-acceptance.  Steve's quote:

"I also learned I didn't have to LIKE who I saw myself as, or all I had to go through. I only had to accept it."

This is profound, enables a much deeper understanding of the bigger picture, untying of Soul knots/wounds, and goes even deeper or beyond self-forgiveness.

Thank you Steve, Heather, and everyone here.