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Title: Transits
Post by: Deva on Mar 07, 2011, 08:17 AM
Hi group, I wanted to see if there is any interest in starting a thread about transits. My idea was to go through the main evolutionary theme, or meaning, of the planets through transit, and then apply to it an individual chart, and/ or current transits that are happening. In this way we could learn how to apply the main evolutionary themes of specific transits to the individual chart. Let me know if this interest in this idea, and we'll move forward.
God Bless
Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: ari moshe on Mar 07, 2011, 04:30 PM
Hi Deva, thanks for offering to hold this space. My intention is to follow along from the outside for now.
With Love,
am


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Rick on Mar 07, 2011, 06:01 PM
Hey Deva,
I think this would be extremely helpful.  as I am beginning to look at charts for people they often want to know about things happening now.  I can intuit some of it, but I think this would be a great learning tool for me.

Rick


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Wendy on Mar 07, 2011, 10:40 PM
Yes, I would like to participate.  Thank you.


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Upasika on Mar 08, 2011, 03:54 AM
Deva I think its a great idea, although unfortuneately I won't have that much much time or space to contribute at the moment, but I'll definitely be following along and participating whenever I can.


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Linda on Mar 08, 2011, 02:02 PM
Thanks Deva - I'm very interested in this, and would like to participate.


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on Mar 09, 2011, 09:05 AM
Ok, great! Will get my thoughts together and start with Mars transits soon.

God Bless
Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on Mar 14, 2011, 07:59 AM
Hi Group, here are my thoughts about Mars transits.
     Mars is the leading edge of evolutionary growth, or change. It gives the evolutionary dynamics in the chart a constant forward motion, or momentum. It is the lower octave of Pluto, or how we consciously act out the desires that emanate from Pluto.  Mars correlates with the beginning of a brand new evolutionary cycle, and the need to initiate, or put into motion, actions that will allow this new cycle to begin. Mars transits symbolize the need to put into motion necessary life changes relative to the beginning of  new part or cycle within our life that will allowthe current evolutionary/karmic dynamics to be actualized.  Mars correlates with instinctual behavior, and learns on an action-reaction basis. When experiencing Mars transits there will be an increasing need for freedom and Independence to intiate the necessary actions, or direction, that will allow the new evolutionary cycle to move forward. It is important to understand that the new evolutionary cycle is not  consciously known, or understood by the individual because it is so new. In other words, Mars/Aries/1st house correlates with the process of self-discovery , and again, the need for freedom and independence to discover what the new evolutionary cycle is about.
    Mars also correlates with anger. Anger can be linked with many things, but one critical dynamic that is linked with anger is not wanting to have personal freedom restricted in any way. When experiencing Mars transits, anger at personal limitations or any external restrictions to initiating the new cycle that the individual feels is necessary at that time of the transit can manifest. It is important to understand that anger can be projected into external situations that  are perceived as the cause of the limitations instead of understanding that the increasing desire to change existing life circumstances is a reflection of the desire to create forward momentum in evolutionary growth, and to use anger in a constructive way to create the necessary changes that must be made at this time. A Pluto, Saturn, Jupiter or Uranus transit to Mars will have a deeper impact than transiting Mars to these planets because of the length of the transit itself (mars moves fast in the sky). I would like to use some examples of Mars transits, but want to make sure the introduction is clear first, and of course looking to forward to input from others.   
God Bless
Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Linda on Mar 14, 2011, 03:14 PM
It is important to understand that anger can be projected into external situations that are perceived as the cause of the limitations instead of understanding that the increasing desire to change existing life circumstances is a reflection of the desire to create forward momentum in evolutionary growth, and to use anger in a constructive way to create the necessary changes that must be made at this time.


Hi Deva,

Your introduction to Mars transits is very clear to me, however, just one question:

I really appreciate your explanation of Mars' projections onto the environment.  Since the individual may not be consciously aware of the need to move forward, the trigger of anger could be the vehicle that signifies the initial impulse for change.  Is the outcome of forward momentum the same for both destructive and constructive anger?  It's interesting how anger is used, in a sense to put an end to something, and also to start something new. 

I'm looking forward to learning more from you and others.


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Rick on Mar 14, 2011, 04:29 PM
So is it fair to say that Mars transiting another planet will cause an instinctual acceleration in evolution within the archetype of that planet?  As a bare bones example......Mars transitting Uranus.  So on a collective level for sure, but also individaully this would correlate with the need to put into motion our desires for liberation in this lifetime....whatever that represents within the lense of the karmic dynamic.  Another being Mars transitting Sun.....This would correlate with the need to begin acting in a way that truly actualizes our real identity...........integrating happiness.  I realize there is much more to it than that, but is that the bottom line level of the archetype we are looking at here?  Starting from the ground up?

Rick


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Wendy on Mar 14, 2011, 04:57 PM
Wow, so happy to have this thread beginning.  It couldn't be more timely in my life.  I had an internal direct awareness of Mars in my chart this past week, clearly seeing how it plays out the loaded karmic patterns relating to my natal Pluto Venus conjunction (Mars is in Libra-PlutoVenus in 4H). 

With Saturn coming soon to conjunct natal Mars square natal moon, I will be glad to have a heads up on Mars and this natal aspect, which has confused me for years.  It's amazing to me how long it takes to truly get the dynamics that get played out externally before I internally gain the wisdom or willingness to fully embrace my own resistance and my own desires. 

Also the information Rad has shared on the Geodetic and planetary nodes thread gives all of this even more meaning, especially since I have late degree cardinal planets (Mars included) that are squared, opposed and conjunct the nodes of Saturn and Pluto.

Thanks Deva.



Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on Mar 15, 2011, 07:49 AM
Hi, great questions.
Linda-My main point about Mars and anger is that anger that is projected upon others, or the environment as the source of personal limitations typically creates a negative and destructive outcome (personal degeneration) during Mars transits because the person does not understand that the limitations/restrictions are actually a reflection of the need to move forward in life, and that it is an inner limitation that is creating the restriction towards further growth. When this anger is used constructively, or in a positive way, the person can respond to a Mars transit in a way to grow past whatever personal limitation is creating a block towards putting into motion a new evolutionary cycle. Anger that is triggered at this time that is linked with not wanting personal freedom or Independence to be limited can be used to create a new way of responding to external circumstances that are limited, or confining in some way to change those situations instead of just blowing up on another person, or blaming the outer circumstance. Anger can be used to initiate the new cycle of becoming that correlates with Mars instead of creating situations of personal degeneration self-implosion. Just as a simple example: I recently had a Mars return (natal Mars in cap/9th house), and I found myself feeling so much repressed anger coming to the surface that needed to be realeased that I become very impatient and also intolerant in ways that were inappropriate. The point within this is that there was also a desire to realease this kind of anger, and to use it in a way to be free from my own inner dynamics of emotional repression that were the cause of my intense anger at that time.  I had to learn to respond to certain situations that triggered this anger in a new way that allowed personal growth to occur (not reacting in an instinctual way to the triggers of the past that created personal degeneration).  Mars also correlates with fears of all sorts, and during these transits our fears can come to the surface. Mars transits offer an opportunity to break free from these fears. 

Rick, yes Mars creates an instinctual desire to move forward and initiate a new cycle of becoming relative to the planet that is transiting it. I like your examples.
I will post more examples soon.
God Bless
Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Linda on Mar 15, 2011, 02:23 PM
Deva,

Thanks so much for your thorough explanation of how Mars can get triggered during transits or at the beginning of a new evolutionary cycle.  

I experienced this myself late last year when transiting Mars moved into Capricorn joining transiting Pluto, North Node, Mercury, and all of these conjuncting my Venus.  It was the beginning of a new Venus/Mars cycle.  I experienced that self-implosive anger, and all the fears that go with it, and blamed it on an outside circumstance.  After this sudden and shocking event, that is, releasing that anger that had been repressed, I recognized an urgent need to move forward, and so that situation was changed. 

So the actual energy of Mars (in relation to natal Venus) allowed me to let go of something, begin a new venture, focus more on essentials, make new choices, change an old situation, and move beyond prior limitations.  I can see how the Mars cardinal energy works in close alliance with Pluto (the Soul) in propelling us forward to meet our evolutionary needs.  I have also learned from direct experience that anger arising signifies something much deeper.

Now that Mercury, Jupiter, URANUS, and (soon) Lilith have moved into ARIES, learning about Mars in transit will be very important in order to grasp the true meaning of this archetype in the bigger picture.

Looking at the planets in transit will be great for us students.  Thank you so much Deva for your teaching and guidance.


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Upasika on Mar 15, 2011, 03:52 PM
Hi Deva,

Well I too have just experienced first hand exactly what you are saying. Also got Mars Cap/9th. I had been temporarily living in a flat with my girlfriend that was one of two at the back of a large house for about 5 months, and the tenant in the other was an alcoholic. He wasn't the best kind of character to be living next to, had a bit of grey heavy aura, but we all coexisted. Got back from holiday at New year in a great space, and later that evening after he'd been drinking for a few hours by himself as he usually did, he barged into our place and went beserk, screaming and shouting, totally psychotic, then started threatening violence to our cars and by implication to ourselves as well, all over something relatively trivial he'd been stewing on for weeks.

We decided then and there that we'd move, although to different places (her study needs limited where she could move to). We should have done it much earlier, just the situation was otherwise extremely convenient (apart from him being next to us it was). Within 5 days I had moved all my stuff (and it was a lot of stuff, not just household stuff but lots of landscaping materials etc, and on the 6th day woke up at my new place. My Mars return was exactly at 7:55 am of the day I woke up at the new place.

So for me the Mars transit (to Mars) attracted a huge amount of someone else's anger onto me, but it certainly mobilised me into "moving forward" (literally !) and onto another chapter in my life. And this guy was a hardened alcoholic, pretty mean and hard underneath, so we were walking on eggshells a bit (fear) as we knew he was hugely irrational (from the alcohol) and didn't know whether his threats of violence would be actualised, but weren't inclined to take the chance or give him any bait. He was an Aries chef with many sharp knives (Mars again) from work at his home and there was no knowing what would happen if he flipped again!

So we had to temporarily supress our Mars energy by not standing up to him. It took us about 6 weeks afterwards to release the effects of that via nature, nurture and emotional release structures.

Thanks Deva for such a good thread.

blessings Upasika


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on Mar 20, 2011, 08:51 AM
Thanks for input Linda and Upasika!
 I would like to add another example of a Mars transit. When interpreting any transit we must be able to put it in the individual context of the natal chart. To fully understand Mars transits, then, we must understand the meaning  natal Mars in the individual chart. The examples I would like to use will demonstrate how to do this.
 The event that occurred for the women who had a significant Mars transit is that a wild fire burned down her house. She was left with nothing but a few possessions (her cherished guitar being one of those few possessions).  Thankfully, the community reached out to her and others who had lost their house. She also had a significant Pluto transit which reflects the intensity of this event that occured.
 This women is in 1st stage spiritual condition, and grew up in the lower economic class. She grew up with a disabled mother and several older brothers who had to help take care of the mother at an early age. In her natal chart she has Pluto in the 11th house forming a  balsamic conjunction to Mars/Sun/Uranus. The South Node is in Taraus/8th house ruled by Venus in Virgo/12th house, North Node in Scorpio in the 2nd house conjunct the Moon. The need to liberate/decondition from pre-existing emotional patterns that are based an a negative self-image/self-worth and the need to transform dependencies upon others within relationships that are based on the need for positive feedback (Pluto in Leo the 11th house balsamic conjunction to Mars/Sun/Uranus). The need to re-empower herself from within based on validating her own inner capacities, and to re-claim her own “inner power” or strength is reflected in this natal signature. A fundamental self-reliance can be developed as she learns to validate herself from within, and her self-image and inner relationship will progressively turn from negative to positive (South Node in Taurus in the 8th house, North Node in Scorpio in the 2nd house conjunct the Moon).
     In this example, Mars is in a balsamic conjunction to Pluto in Leo/11th house, and Pluto is conjunct Uranus and the Sun also in a balsamic phase. This correlates with the need to culminate an entire evolutionary cycle relative to how she has acted upon the desires reflected by Pluto, and to align her personal will and desires towards actualizing the current evolutionary intentions for the life. In this context, the need to put into motion actualizing her desires of a spiritual nature that allow personal transformation and continual evolution to manifest is reflected in these symbols. As mentioned before, attracting relationships where she gave away, or lost, her power and ability to be self-reliant created situations of being trapped or consumed by these relationships. The dynamic of guilt and the need to atone for the guilt can be seen by planetary ruler of the South Node, Venus in Virgo/12th house conjunct Mercury. Pluto/ Mars in a balsamic phase, and  Virgo in the 12th house correlate with the need to act upon the need spiritually develop and merge with the Divine, and in so doing bring to resolution the emotional/psychological patterns of the past that have already been described. 
    At the time of the fire, Mars was in Aries in her 7th house making a tine to her natal Uranus in Leo/11th house which makes the aspects already mentioned. Pluto was also making an exact conjunction to her Moon/North Node conjunction  (quite a graphic symbol of a house burn down)! At the time of the fire, she was experiencing  intense difficulties in her current relationship (transiting Mars in Aries/7th house) , and was feeling an increasing desire to be free from the limitations of these kinds of relationships in general (transiting Pluto conjunct North Node/Moon conjunction), and start a new cycle of evolutionary becoming through liberating from the emotional patterns already described (Mars trine Uranus in Leo in the 11th house).  Her own experience of this very intense and traumatic event was that she felt, on inner level, that the fire was symbolic (Pluto transit) of the new cycle that she wanted to initiate, and she also felt a sense of relief that the old cycle was coming to closer. She was able to objectify the inner dynamics that were creating these types of life circumstances, and to create the necessary inner changes with speed and amazing courage.  In other words, in this case the Mars trine to her Uranus reflects that she was ready to initiate  the necessary inner changes to allow the new evolutionary cycle to begin. She was able to use the very stressful traumatic event that occurred in a way that created forward movement and personal growth ( transiting Mars trine Uranus). With Pluto conjunct Mars she is able to accomplish a lot of growth very quickly!
God Bless
Deva             




Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Linda on Mar 21, 2011, 10:17 PM
Hi Deva,

Thanks for sharing this example chart.  I was able to understand your interpretation of all the natal/transiting aspects especially in relation to the balsamic Mars/Pluto phase.

(http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab96/lindatjonson/Marstransitexamplechart.jpg)

Just one question:

Since the Mars/Pluto balsamic conjunction is very tight, is it actually possible to start a new evolutionary cycle in the current lifetime?  I see what you mean about evolution being very fast with this tight conjunction as Mars (conscious desire nature) and Pluto (the Soul) would be desiring to change very fast.  

I thought the aspect signifying a new evolutionary cycle would actually be a Mars/Pluto new phase conjunction?  Are you also attributing the new evolutionary cycle to transiting Mars through the 7th house (angle)?

So what about the remainder of her life having this balsamic conjunction between Mars/Pluto?  Do you think she could expect more personal transformations in the area of her relationships?  Do the "seeds of change" actually exist within this balsamic conjunction?  And how much change can she actually achieve?

I thought astrology was an exact science.  It seems desire, if it is strong enough, can transcend the natal chart?  

Interesting also that the chart is paradoxical.

Fascinating!


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on Mar 22, 2011, 08:41 PM
Hi Linda, thanks for asking this question. Pluto/Mars balsamic does correlate with the need to bring to closure, or culminate, and entire evolutionary cycle relative to how the desire nature was acted upon, or played out, prior to the life. The culmination of the old cycle does prepare the way for the new cycle to begin relative to the New Phase. In this example I was referring to the the transiting Mars trine her natal Uranus in the context of a new cycle starting, and wanting to connect this transit the meaning of Pluto/Mars balsamic in her natal chart. In other words, this was time of closure and completion of the old cycle, and putting a new cycle into motion simultaneously. The planetary ruler of the SN in Taurus is Venus in Virgo/12th house correlates with the culmination of prior relationships that have already been described.
  I would say that desire determines how (at what level) we express the symbols/archetypes within our natal chart. As JWG always taught "desire is the determinate of evolution." Would the group like another example of a Mars transit, or what it be best to move on to Venus transits?
Hope this helps.
Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Linda on Mar 22, 2011, 10:37 PM
Thank you Deva, that was very helpful.

Regarding your question:  Would the group like another example of a Mars transit, or would it be best to move on to Venus transits?

I'll wait to hear from other members.


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Upasika on Mar 24, 2011, 05:02 PM
Hi Deva,

I enjoyed learning from that example. Unfortunately my time available now on the MB for a while anyway has become limited to a quick read every so often of a few threads I'm the most interested in (this being one). Despite that given Mars key role in the EA paradigm my feeling is another Mars example might be a good idea, also to help grasp the application of the principles as thoroughly as possible.

 


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on Mar 25, 2011, 08:20 AM
Thanks for the input! I have re-read my thread and decided it would be much better to develop it more thoroughly before moving on. Will post more soon.
God Bless
Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on Mar 30, 2011, 10:33 AM
(http://www.picresize.com/images/rsz_1chart_exampleb.jpg)
 
Hi group, wanted to add to this post and tried to post the chart (hopefully it works).
The natal position of Pluto and Mars in the birth chart will symbolize how the desires emanating from Pluto will be instinctually acted out, or acted upon, in order to put the current evolutionary intentions into motion. In order to fully understand a Mars transit we must first understand the natal Pluto/Mars signature. I felt it would be best to develop this first example in order to more clearly apply these EA principles 
      In this natal signature this women has Pluto in Leo in the 11th house forming a balsamic conjunction to Mars, Sun, and Uranus also in Leo/11th house. Pluto in the 11th house in Leo conjunct Mars in a balsamic phase correlates with the core evolutionary desires to creatively actualize (Leo) the special purpose, or destiny, for the life in a unique and individualistic context (11th house). The balsamic phase between Mars and Pluto reflects the desire to align with a spiritual, or higher, purpose, and merge with the Creator in such a way that her very life becomes anchored, or rooted, in service to the Creator. As mentioned before, by aligning her will with a higher will and purpose, and the current evolutionary intentions for the life, she will bring to completion, or resolution an entire evolutionary cycle in the context of how she has acted out desires of this nature relative to the dynamics that have previously been discussed.   
      Pluto and Mars in Leo/11th house  also reflects past trauma relative to expressing her unique identity that was experienced within a group context. Uranus is square the nodal axis which re-iterates this unresolved trauma, and that the resolution of this trauma is a core skipped step that must be recovered in this life in order for evolution to proceed. This unresolved trauma  has lead to a situation to a type of hiding within a social group (SN in Taurus in the 8th house, ruled by Venus in Virgo/12th house), and also prior situations of isolation from society and others in general. Evolution did not occur because of this dynamic, and is creating personal limitations, or points of stagnation and non-growth, in this life. In other words, her pre-existing orientation was towards a community dynamic, and also forming relationships with people who she felt were of like mind. The point within this is that her own self-creative actualization process was not fully developed because of past unresolved trauma , and her dependency upon a social group or community. ( Mars Pluto in Leo/11th house, Uranus square the nodal axis).
     Pluto’s polarity point in the 5th house in Aquarius reflects the current evolutionary intentions to creatively actualize herself independent from any social group or community, and to embrace her innate and natural talents and capacities. She is a natural artist, psychologist, and healer that has innate wisdom of natural laws and principles that help others heal from similar wounds has she herself has carried over form other lifetimes (Saturn in sag in the 3rd house trine her Uranus in Leo/11th house making the aspects previously mentioned). Her wisdom is rooted in matriarchal times and has a profound depth. Pluto/Mars in Leo/11th house in a balsamic phase symbolizes the need to resolve the past experience of trauma relative to expressing her unique wisdom that reflected her alignment with natural laws, and to creatively actualize in a way that reflects her very deep capacity and natural talents.
At the time of the fire, the transiting Mars trine to her natal Uranus symbolized that the experience of trauma (Uranus) was being used to put these current evolutionary intentions into motion through creating a new inner/outer relationship pattern in general (transiting Mars in Aries/7th relative to the nodal axis of the SN in Taraus/8th house and NN in Scorpio/2nd house conjunct her moon. A true liberation process occurred at this time ( transiting Mars trine natal Uranus) She was transforming her self image and inner relationship with herself, and thus creating a new “inner home” (transiting Pluto conjunct NN in Scorpio conjunct the Moon). 
Hope this is clear! Any feedback and input is welcome.
God Bless
Deva
     



Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Elen on Mar 30, 2011, 02:16 PM
Hi Deva,

Hope you don't mind if I jump in.  I caught up with the thread a couple of days ago and am interested in participating as I'm able.

I need to reflect more on what you've written so that I can truly learn from it, but I did have 2 questions right off the bat...

1)  I wondered if you could explain more explicitly where the dependency comes from.  You wrote:

"The point within this is that her own self-creative actualization process was not fully developed because of past unresolved trauma , and her dependency upon a social group or community. ( Mars Pluto in Leo/11th house, Uranus square the nodal axis)."

I was thinking that dependency was a Libra phenomenon, so maybe it comes through the Venus rulership of the SN?  Or is dependency and 8th house phenomenon?

2) You wrote:

" Pluto’s polarity point in the 5th house in Aquarius reflects the current evolutionary intentions to creatively actualize herself independent from any social group or community, and to embrace her innate and natural talents and capacities."

I have asked this question before but somehow feel unconfident about it.  From your quote above, it seems that the house comes first in one's interpretation.  So, for her, she is "to creatively actualize herself independent from any social group or community", rather than, say, learning to creatively actualize herself within community or to somehow bring her creative purpose to the group.  So, in other words, with regard to the PPP in this example, Aquarius becomes not about "the group", but about independence and individuality.  The 11th, however, is about the group.  (But not about independence and individuality? - say if the situation were reversed, ie, the PPP were in Leo in the 11th.  The 11th would be the group.  And Leo would be bringing her creative life purpose to the group?)

Hope my questions make sense.

Best wishes,
Ellen


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on Mar 31, 2011, 07:45 AM
Hi Ellen, thanks for asking these questions. Dependency is a Libra dynamic. Scorpio is correlates with fixated, or compulsive patterns of behavior that are linked with emotion security. This creates limitations and points of stagnation in terms of further evolution. The intention to confront and transmute those limitations is also reflected in the Scorpio archetype.  The 11th house symbolizes the need to liberate from anything that we have become overly attached to (severing of attachments), and to decondition from preexisting conditioning patterns. The Mars/Pluto in Leo/11th house balsamic phase in the context of the South Node in Taurus in the 8th house reflects the need to liberate (11th house) from the past pattern of being dependent upon a social group (11th house) in the context of creative self-actualization (Leo)The ruler of the SN in Taurus is Venus in Virgo/12th. This correlates the need for this transformation to occur relative to her inner relationship with herself (SN in Taurus), and that this inner transformation will reflect itself in how she operates within the group, or society, and of course her intimate or close relationships. Venus in the 12th house reflects that prior relationship patterns that have already been described will be brought to culmination through a personal liberation process ( Pluto/Mars Leo/11th house) of this nature.
Yes, always start by using the house first, then the sign of any planet. If the natal Pluto were in the 5th house, the person would have evolutionary intentions of the 11th house (liberation from an overly subjective focus in life, and the need to link the special purpose or destiny in life to a socially relevant need).       
Let me know if this is clear.
Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: serban_p on Mar 31, 2011, 11:02 AM
Hi Ellen,

I just wanted to add one thought with respect to your question.

Aquarius becomes not about "the group", but about independence and individuality.  The 11th, however, is about the group. 

I hope I'm not mistaking (and Deva, please correct me if I'm wrong), but the group Aquarius correlates to may sometimes mean what has been called a group of one. Personally, I have found this correlation very helpful when looking at Uranus/11th house issues.

Furthermore, if your reaction to the idea of "a group of one" is a feeling that something is wrong with this picture, it might be useful to consider the fact that Uranus also directly correlates to paradoxes.

All the best,

Serban


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Elen on Mar 31, 2011, 06:30 PM
Thank you, Deva and Serban.  I will reflect on your responses and ask follow up questions if I need to after my move is complete....

Best wishes,
Ellen


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on Apr 07, 2011, 04:54 AM
Hi group, I am wondering if you feel another example of a Mars transit would be helpful, or if you have questions about these posts so far. I do want to provide another example of A Mars return before moving on to Venus.
Let me know.
God Bless
Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Elen on Apr 07, 2011, 11:52 AM
Hi Deva,

I can't follow as closely for the time being but I'd be interested in looking at another example of a Mars transit before moving on.

Ellen


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Elen on Apr 07, 2011, 11:57 AM
Hi Ellen, thanks for asking these questions. Dependency is a Libra dynamic. Scorpio is correlates with fixated, or compulsive patterns of behavior that are linked with emotion security. This creates limitations and points of stagnation in terms of further evolution. The intention to confront and transmute those limitations is also reflected in the Scorpio archetype.  The 11th house symbolizes the need to liberate from anything that we have become overly attached to (severing of attachments), and to decondition from preexisting conditioning patterns. The Mars/Pluto in Leo/11th house balsamic phase in the context of the South Node in Taurus in the 8th house reflects the need to liberate (11th house) from the past pattern of being dependent upon a social group (11th house) in the context of creative self-actualization (Leo)The ruler of the SN in Taurus is Venus in Virgo/12th. This correlates the need for this transformation to occur relative to her inner relationship with herself (SN in Taurus), and that this inner transformation will reflect itself in how she operates within the group, or society, and of course her intimate or close relationships. Venus in the 12th house reflects that prior relationship patterns that have already been described will be brought to culmination through a personal liberation process ( Pluto/Mars Leo/11th house) of this nature.
Yes, always start by using the house first, then the sign of any planet. If the natal Pluto were in the 5th house, the person would have evolutionary intentions of the 11th house (liberation from an overly subjective focus in life, and the need to link the special purpose or destiny in life to a socially relevant need).       
Let me know if this is clear.
Deva

Hi Deva,

I finally had a chance to reread this and take it in and, yes, it is quite clear.  Thank you!

Ellen


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Linda on Apr 07, 2011, 05:38 PM
Hi Deva,

I really appreciated your step-by-step analysis of this chart.  

Your Quote:  The natal position of Pluto and Mars in the birth chart will symbolize how the desires emanating from Pluto will be instinctually acted out, or acted upon, in order to put the current evolutionary intentions into motion.

Does this mean that the desires emanating from the Soul will be instinctively acted out via all of these:  


Natal Mars by sign and house:  How and why Soul desires are acted upon in order to put the current evolutionary intentions into motion.

Natal Mars in phasal relationship to Pluto:  The evolutionary progression of the evolutionary intent.  

Aspects to Mars:  Mars issues involving other key areas of the psyche.

Transits to natal Mars:  Stimulation of the Mars desire nature and therefore the evolutionary intent.

Mars transits:  Direct triggers that put the evolutionary intentions into motion.

Mars in solar/lunar returns:  Evolving purpose and self-image in relation to the evolutionary intentions.

Progressed Mars:  The development of the desire nature as it relates to the evolutionary intention.


The point I'm trying to make is that any conscious Mars intention (acted out via the desire nature) is not a "one-time" thing - it is not just "fixed" at the time of birth - but in fact evolves as the individual evolves.  The natal Pluto evolutionary intention - as symbolized by the PPP - remains constant for the current lifetime.  Is this correct?

Thanks Deva for your wonderful expertise!  And I also very much appreciate you going a little slower for some of us.


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: mirta on Apr 09, 2011, 10:44 AM
Hi Deva,
Thanks for this thread. I wasn't able to attentively follow it before.
As always, the way you have to point out the EA principles is very important and helpful for me.
I am interested in grasping the relationship between the transits and the main karmic dynamic. I would like to have another  Mars example.
God Bless
Mirta


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on Apr 10, 2011, 07:46 AM
Hi group, great will post another example very soon (sorry about the delay-it has been a very busy week).
Linda, yes you are correct that the natal Mars/Pluto phase and of course house and sign position correlates to how the evolutionary intentions within the birth chart will be acted upon in a consistent manner. Mars transits/progressions reflect critical times in the Soul's journey that trigger, or ignite, these core dynamics relative to the specific nature of the transit/progression.
Will post soon!
God Bless
Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Linda on Apr 10, 2011, 02:32 PM
Thank you Deva, that's good to know.


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Upasika on Apr 11, 2011, 02:41 PM
I'm reading along Deva, appreciate what you have started here - thank you. I feel its a deceptively deep topic and like the way you're slowing down and going into the principles in more detail. Wish I could actively participate more, but must focus on health for the time being. Upasika


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on Apr 12, 2011, 05:45 PM
(http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?cid=h00fileD4Qupg-u1301501118&lang=e&gm=a1&nhor=1&nho2=1&btyp=2&mth=gw&sday=12&smon=4&syr=2011&hsy=6&zod=&orbp=&rs=2&ast=)

Hi group, thanks again for the feedback. Tried to post this chart, but included birth data if it doesn't work.
Here's an example of a teenage girl (daughter of a client) who had a very interesting Mars return.
Birth data is Aug, 29th, 1996, 11:15 pm in Boulder, CO.  She is1st stage spiritual evolutionary condition. Grew up in the middle class economic state with no specific religious conditioning. She is naturally orientated towards working with animals as a profession. ( natal Pluto sag/6th house). In fact, she horses are her favorite animals, and she is already riding and working in horse stables on a consistent basis at the age of 14. She is a daemon Soul and naturally feels alienated from most people, and her work with animals, specifically horses, is a way for her to heal and align with her natural nature, or identity.
     In her natal chart she has Pluto in Sagittarius in the 6th house, and the South Node in Aries in the 11th house conjunct Saturn in Aries, and the Moon in Pisces in the 11th house. The planetary ruler of the South Node is Mars in Cancer in the 3rd house conjunct her Venus also in Cancer in the 3rd house in a balsamic phase. The North Node is in Libra in the 5th house conjunct her Mercury. The planetary ruler of the South Node (Mars) conjuncts the planetary ruler of the North Node Venus in Cancer in the 3rd house. This symbolizes the evolutionary intention to re-live critical dynamics of the past in order to resolve them.  Jupiter is in Capricorn in the 8th house square her nodal axis (which reflect a skipped step from an evolutionary point of view).
     During her last Mars return she was 13 years old, and unfortunately going through an intense time of social rejection and also social alienation simply for being different, and not conforming to the traditional ways of being within relationships in general (Pluto in the 6th house, South Node in Aries in the 11th house conjunct her Saturn, Jupiter square the nodal axis).  She grew up in a family that promoted natural laws and truths as guiding  principles in life, and modeled these principles within the family on a daily basis in the context of relationships ( planetary ruler of the South Node is Mars in Cancer in the 3rd house conjunct Venus in a balsamic phase). Thus, she was already starting, or beginning, a brand new evolutionary cycle in this context of her pre-existing relationship patterns by being exposed to this type of role modeling at an early age. This type of role modeling allowed her to bring to closure, or resolution, prior relationships pattern that were destructive in nature. For example, rebellion against her family due to displaced anger is reflected in these symbols, and  prior to the Mars return she acting out via displaced emotions relative to experiencing this type of rejection with her peer group. It can be seen that in prior lives she was rejected by members of her family and given virtually no emotional nurturing. Thus, she would unconsciously and instinctually act out displaced emotions on her family members based on these types of past experiences (South Node in Aries/11th house conjunct Saturn, and Mars/Venus in a balsamic phase in Cancer in the 3rd house. 
      She picked a family environment this life in which she could heal the wounds from this type of past experience, and was given a tremendous amount of love and emotional nurturing from an early age  (Pluto in Sag/6th house, Mars conjunct Venus in Cancer/3rd house in a balsamic phase). In other words, the evolutionary intention within these symbols is to establish a new inner and outer relationship pattern by learning to internalize emotional security, and to validate herself from within instead of relying on the social acceptance of peers. In this way she can transform her self-image from negative to positive, and  become self-secure no matter what external or social circumstances she was in.  Jupiter square the nodal axis symbolizes a skipped step in the context of conforming to social norms to gain this type of acceptance, and also to express her emotional truth within relationships instead of compensating through the act of conformity. The experience of social rejection at this time forced her back on herself (Venus/Mars in Cancer/3rd house) in order to learn the necessary evolutionary lessons described above.
     At the time of the Mars return she was going into puberty (she started her first menstruation within days of the Mars return), and naturally wanted to be more social than before which made the impact of social rejection extremely difficult at this time. In fact, her best friend was no longer returning her phone calls or wanting to “hang out” with her. However, through the strength of her will she was able to change the prior patterns of acting out on her family and compensating through the act of conformity to gain social acceptance. She confronted her worst fear of being alone with no friends by not forcing friendships that were not natural in nature (i.e based on the dynamics of the past that have already been described) at that time.  Her family and her relationship with horses became the most important part of her reality.  Her attitude became “if I need to be a group of one so be it.” She emotionally matured very quickly at this time (natal Jupiter in Capricorn in the 8th house, South Node conjunct Saturn in Aries in the 11th house). The necessary resolution of these dynamics is reflected in the natal Mars/Venus  in a balsamic phase, and the Mars return was triggering the re-living of these issues in order for them to be resolved, and a new cycle to begin. Because of this inner shift she made she did make new and healthier relationships at this time, and was even able to heal the relationship with her best friend through their love of horses.
     This inner growth reflects  the new evolutionary cycle being put into motion relative to the Mars return. In addition, at the time of the Mars return the transiting  South Node was conjunct her natal Venus/Mars conjunction, and the transiting Sun was conjunct her North Node in Libra/5th house which reflects the re-living (transiting South Node on her Venus/Mars conjunction) and  resolution  of these core evolutionary lessons at the time of the Mars return occurred through taking charge of her special destiny and learning self-empowerment (transiting Sun on the North Node in Libra/5th house).  Again, we can see the new cycle that was indented to be put into motion at the time, and how her response to the challenges and difficulties of this time created a positive outcome (she changed the way she used her anger from destructive to constructive in the ways already described).   
Let me know if anything is unclear in this example. Want to start Venus transits soon unless there are any questions or input about Mars transits.
God Bless
Deva       


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Linda on Apr 12, 2011, 06:56 PM
Mars transit practice chart.......


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Upasika on Apr 13, 2011, 04:20 PM
Deva thanks, that was a very thorough and interesting example.


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: mirta on Apr 14, 2011, 09:08 AM
Hi Deva,
With this example you made very clear to me the relationship between Mars transit and the main evolutionary dynamic, the meaning of a Mars return as a new cycle that begins, and also its furthering of the evolution of the natal balsamic conjunction Venus-Mars( 2º  before exact).
And of course the importance of the Soul’s decision to use energy in a constructive, evolutionary way.

I have a question about the relationship between Mars transit and the other transits we see in that moment.

First, should we look at this relationship?
If we should: in your first example, could we say that transiting Pluto is activating her NN and promoting a metamorphosis in her inner relationship and self-image (Moon conjunct NN) increasing her self reliance, and inner self-validation with the consequent empowering and autonomy within relationships; and:
is in that context that Mars transit triggers Uranus liberating action in order to put in motion the actions leading to this metamorphosis?

In the second example, what is the relationship between the reliving and emergence of prior causes that the transiting SN promotes and the new cycle that Mars return is initiating?

In other words, should we see Mars as the focus of the transit constellation, or is it the triggering of deeper layers action?
Hope I could put it clear.
Thanks Deva
God Bless
Mirta



Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Steven on Apr 14, 2011, 05:09 PM
Hi, Deva, although I am new to the site and just catching up, this is a great thread and extremely helpful . I've got a pretty clear understanding now of how the Mars transits, and especially returns, ignite new cycles of the original Mars/soul intentions, and this is already informing how I am working with one of my clients for an uncoming Mars return.

I do have a question about the last chart, which may be off-topic because it isn't about the transit, but about how you discerned the following:

"It can be seen that in prior lives she was rejected by members of her family and given virtually no emotional nurturing."  This is key info, and I'm not sure that I know yet how to see that from Pluto in Sag in the 6th and South Node Aries in the 11th. Those placements/signs wouldn't guide me in that direction, so I know there's something I'm missing.  Or does it have to do with the fact that the ruler of the South Node Sign is Mars, which is in Cancer?

Again, if this is too off-topic, no worries.

Thanks for the thread!




Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on Apr 15, 2011, 07:37 AM
Hi Mirta and Dylan-great questions you both have asked!
Mirta- Yes, in the first example it is the Pluto transit to North Node/Moon conjunction in the 2nd house that symbolizes the metamorphosis of the self-image, and learning self-reliance. The Mars trine to natal Uranus is what is going this evolutionary intentions movement, or motion. Again, in this example trauma (Uranus) was experienced in order to enforce these core evolutionary lessons.
   In the second example, the planetary rulers of the nodes (Venus and Mars) are in a balsamic conjunction which reflects the need to relive certain dynamics in order to resolve them (bringing core issues to resolution in order to prepare for the new evolutionary phase symbolized in the new phase). Also, at the time of Mars return the transiting south node was conjunct natal Mars/Venus conjunction which reflects unresolved dynamics of the past being re-experienced. The Mars return reflects the potential to put these core evolutionary intentions into motion by resolving the necessary issues related to her past that were described. In other words, a necessary culmination had to occur before the new evolutionary cycle can begin relative to the Mars return. 

Dylan-thanks so much for pointing out a core point that I did not explain clearly! Yes, the issue of a lack of emotional nurturing in her past is reflected by Pluto in the 6th house relative to Venus/Mars in cancer and also Jupiter in Capricorn square the nodes. Essentially, it is the theme of rejection and lack of parental nurturing in her past that triggers her unresolved anger and emotional displacement. Again, in this case she picked the exact opposite family dynamic where she is totally embraced for who she is (her soul nature) and nurtured  in exactly the ways that she needs in order to resolve and heal these past dynamics. 
Hope this helps, and please feel free to ask any questions or post your own examples/insights!
God Bless
Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: mirta on Apr 15, 2011, 08:30 AM
Thanks Deva for your clear and detailed answer. Very helpful.
God Bless
Mirta


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Upasika on Apr 15, 2011, 05:09 PM
2nd example

Yes, the issue of a lack of emotional nurturing in her past is reflected by Pluto in the 6th house relative to Venus/Mars in cancer and also Jupiter in Capricorn square the nodes.

Deva, when I look at the chart what strikes me as reasons for the lack of emotional nurturing in past lives would be firstly : Saturn conj SN showing emotional repression/denial, which is reinforced by Mars (ruler of SN and Saturn) conj Venus, both being in Cancer (emotional body/parents) squaring Chiron in 5th (wounding to the emotional body, prob from fathers), Mars/Venus sesquiquadrate to Ceres in 7th (withheld nourishment).

Backed up up by Jupiter in Cap squaring the nodes showing that <expansion in life/self-inner authority/understanding of society> has been missing/denied in recent past lives, which would have been a natural result of the lack of emotional nurturing and resulted in a sense of being alienated. Also Capricorn(Jupiter) and Cancer (Venus/Mars) are the parental axis and with Jupiter being the skipped step this points to rejection by her parents in the past. With Jupiter being in the 8th, her projected displaced emotions would be surfacing from her deep emotional isolation.

Combined with Venus in balsamic conj to Mars indicating all these issues from the past needing to be relived/resolved (hence for starters choosing her very nourishing/supporting family in this life).

As Pluto is the higher octave of Mars and also trine Mars, it too is implicated in the past dynamics that Mars is involved in i.e. the emotional repression, and would make her very aware of the lack (6th house) of emotional nurturing she had been subjected to. That Pluto is in a grand trine with SN, Saturn and Venus/Mars, and sextile Uranus which is sextile SN, shows she had actually developed in the past a very good understanding at a soul level of all of these dynamics, and in this life was destined to break the pattern of denial of her emotional needs being her reality, that in fact she may already have started doing that before this life, in the immediate prior life or very recent lives.

This accounts for her relative ease in responding to her Mars return in such a positive manner, it further invoked this residual inner understanding she has already developed prior to this life into actualisation.

Would all this be correct?

thanks Upasika


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on Apr 16, 2011, 01:55 PM
Hi Upasika, thanks for your insights! Yes, your analysis is correct. The only additions I would make are that she is learning to internally nurture herself in the ways that she needs, and in this way learning to internalize emotional security in order to be able to remain herself and emotionally stable within social groups and in relationships in general (Mars/Venus balsamic phase being the planetary rulers of the nodal axis axis, South Node in Aries/11th conjunct Saturn). Again, Her family is actively teaching her how to this and promoting the awareness of who is a friend and who is not (Pluto in the 6th house reflects the need to learn discernment and discrimination within relationships, and the Moon in Pisces/11th house reflects a natural naivety as well (wanting to see and believe the best in people without the necessary discernment of who to let into her life as a friend and whom not). The grand trine reflects her own desire to learn these lessons and the potential to break free from these patterns in this life (again this desire is reflected in the family she chose in this life). Venus/Mars in a balsamic phase reflects that these issues have been unresolved prior to this life, and her desire/ intention to bring these issues to resolution or closure in this life.
Hope this helps!
God Bless
Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Upasika on Apr 16, 2011, 05:25 PM
Hi Deva,

That does add extra layers of understanding.

... and in this way learning to internalize emotional security in order to be able to remain herself and emotionally stable within social groups and in relationships in general (Mars/Venus balsamic phase being the planetary rulers of the nodal axis axis, South Node in Aries/11th conjunct Saturn).

Of course ... balsamic phase of the relationship planets means she will be throwing off other's expectations and coming back to herself regarding relationships, and being in Cancer establishing internal security via this. And Aries/11th lends itself totally to becoming a "group of one" when the need for that arises, and Saturn in 11th - stability in social groups.

Again, Her family is actively teaching her how to this and promoting the awareness of who is a friend and who is not (Pluto in the 6th house reflects the need to learn discernment and discrimination within relationships, and the Moon in Pisces/11th house reflects a natural naivety as well (wanting to see and believe the best in people without the necessary discernment of who to let into her life as a friend and whom not). I see that now - the discrimiation bit, and when that is lacking and when combined with the natural innocence of a Picses moon, how easily that could manifest as naivety in the context of her relations.

It seems with these Mars transits, particularly the Mars returns, how the transit just acts to activate the evolutionary requirements in the chart in a very direct and singular kind of way (like just simply adding more fuel to the tank), and that once the outer event related to Mars has occurred it quickly fades into the background as the evolutionary intent is mobilised so strongly. Guess that's because Mars both in the chart and as a transiting planet (being conscious desires) is like the fuse in any chart, igniting the whole evolutionary keg of powder (Pluto/Nodes & their rulers).

It will be interesting to see if that's different with other transiting/transited planet combinations e.g. transiting Venus, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus etc and if in those cases the outer event creates a more complicated situation regarding the chart's evolutionary signature, and/or is more indirect in it's effect on it.

Thanks very much for your guidance Deva.

blessings Upasika


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on Apr 27, 2011, 08:02 AM
Venus transits: Venus correlates with our inner relationship with ourselves, and also the external relationships we form as a reflection of our inner relationship. Venus is co-ruled by the signs of Taurus and Libra. Taurus reflects our inner relationship with ourselves, and the inner side, or inner nature, of Venus. Libra reflects the relationships we attract and initiate with other people (outer or external side of Venus).  Venus correlates with our values which are a determinate to who we form relationships with and whom not, and also the needs we have within relationships. When we have not learned to meet our own needs they become projected onto our partner and others in general within relationships. (there is a natural inconjunct between the Taurus and Libra archetypes which correlates with the crisis (inconjunct) that occurs when we project to many needs onto another within relationships and are then thrown back onto ourselves in order to learn self-reliance). Venus correlates with extremities, and how we will go about balancing or uniting discordant aspects of ourselves.  Again, the need is to learn to identify what our specific needs are within relationships and meet those from within ourselves in order to attract relationships that our balanced, equal, and based on mutual independence.  The natal placement of Venus in the birth chart correlates with the persons pre-existing relationship patterns, and the values, and needs an individual will have within relationships.
     Venus also correlates to the nature of our “inner dialogue” with ourselves (Taurus side of Venus) and how we can all project this inner dialogue onto others. In other words, if I have Venus in Scorpio I will naturally be listening to others from a “bottom line” psychological standpoint (“where is this person coming from, can I relate to this or not”)?  The Venus in Scorpio person may also come into relationships with unconscious fears of abandonment, betrayal, and loss, and unconsciously project these fears onto the other by listening to their partner in a defensive manner, and also project that the other person has ulterior motives or agendas which the other in fact does not have.  The point within this is that Venus correlates with the psychology of listening (Libra side of Venus), and when we listen to others based on our own subjective inner dialogue we do not truly hear what they are communicating. Remember that the archetype of Libra correlates with the need to learn to listen to others from their reality, not our own, in order to truly understand what the other is communicating.
Venus through transit reflects the ongoing evolution of our inner relationship with ourselves, and our outer relationships. The awareness of new and changing needs occurs through Venus transits. The transits of Venus also reflects the specific inner and outer relationship patterns we are working on at that moment in time relative to the house and sign it occupies in our natal chart.  We can simply “outgrow” a current relationship we are in (I do not feel I need this anymore), or feel that it has reached a natural point of separation (no more growth is occurring for either person).  We have all experienced times in our lives when we have exhausted the specific needs that were the basis of a relationship, and become aware of  deeper aspects of ourselves that now need to be nourished, or nurtured, so to speak. In my view, it reflects that we are deepening our inner relationship with ourselves and this growth creates a natural evolution of our needs within relationships.  We must then make the necessary inner and our changes in our life to accommodate these changing needs.  In general, Venus transits to the outer planets such as Jupiter, Uranus, Saturn, and Pluto will induce the deepest levels of change relative to the dynamics already described. Please let me know if anything I have written is unclear, or if you have any insights to post!
God Bless
Deva




Title: Re: Transits
Post by: mirta on May 01, 2011, 02:08 PM
Hi Deva,
 “Venus through transit reflects the ongoing evolution of our inner relationship with ourselves, and our outer relationships. The awareness of new and changing needs occurs through Venus transits.
We. . . become aware of deeper aspects of ourselves that now need to be nourished, or nurtured, so to speak.”
This was very meaningful for me to read.

It’s new for me this approach to Venus transits, so undervaluated in psychological astrology (feminine is undervaluated in astrology).
Indeed I experienced this awareness of new and changing needs not long ago. Being more present with a couple of beloved friends (almost siblings to me), I felt an inner detachment,a distance from them though feeling the same love and keeping the outer relationship the same.
They helped me very much in the past and I always feel a deep sense of debt and a need to give and help them (Natal Venus in Libra in 12th house conjunct Sun Neptune in 11th?).
And now feeling that their development occurred in a different orientation from mine, that their problems were consequence of their choices and  that other “deeper aspects of myself now need to be nourished” , their place in my life has changed, without guilt, albeit with the same love and even willingness to help.
I had correlated this inner change to other transits (Pluto, Saturn), and it may  be so, but now I see the awareness that Venus was facilitating me. At that moment Venus was square my Uranus conjunct Moon, and a few days later made an opposition to my Sun conjunct Neptune in 11th.
Glad to discover this inner facet and transits of Venus, ruler of my NN and final dispositor in my chart.
I have a question: what are the orbs used in EA for transits?
Thanks Deva
God Bless


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on May 02, 2011, 08:16 AM
Hi Mirta, thanks for posting your insights and question about orbs. In general, the orbs used for the major aspects (trines, squares, conjunctions, oppositions) are 10 degrees (5 degrees prior to the exact aspect, and 5 degrees after the exact aspect). Inconjunctions have a 3 degree orb in the natal chart, and I use a about a 6 degree orb for inconjunctions (3 degrees prior and 3 degrees after the exact aspect). Your insight about your Venus transits is great-correlates to the emotional experience of distancing from friendships relative to a release of attachment (Venus square Uranus and Moon), and also a an aspect within yourself that you felt was evolving within you (your inner relationship was deepening) and the need to nurture that from within yourself independent from your friendships ( Venus squaring Moon/Uranus).
Does the rest of group want to continue with examples of Venus transits?
God Bless
Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: mirta on May 03, 2011, 06:00 AM
Thanks Deva for your answer and feedback.
God Bless
Mirta


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Upasika on Jul 26, 2011, 05:51 PM
Hi Deva,

I had completely missed your post about Venus. I've enjoyed this thread and would like to contribute to Venus at some point - transits is something I'd like to keep exploring. But can't for now, things like this blog are still out of reach for me at the moment.

blessings
Upasika


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on Jul 27, 2011, 07:13 AM
Hi, Upasika. Thanks for your feedback about this thread, and I wanted to ask the rest of the group if there is interest in continuing with the transits thread.
God Bless
Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: nemodomi on Feb 15, 2014, 11:04 PM
Three years later ...

Well *waah*. I've been reading through some of the threads, starting with those with the most views, and this is the one that I've enjoyed the most so far. I'm sad to see that interest abruptly plummeted to zero. ???


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Susanh on Apr 01, 2014, 09:27 AM
Wow, nemodomi, me, too. I was reading this thread just now on transits by Deva and shocked when it just ended. Poof! I hope something like this starts again.  :) Very valuable and clear.


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on Apr 01, 2014, 10:39 AM
 Hi Nemodomi and Susanh. Thanks for the encouragement in restarting this thread. If there is enough interest in this topic I will restart it. Anybody who wants to participate please let me know.

Namaste

Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Skywalker on Apr 01, 2014, 11:31 AM
Hi Deva, Nemodomi and Susanh,

I would like to practice transits although my primary commitment is to the Neptune thread at the moment and once it´s finished possibly another thread that Rad might create, relative to the suggestions that were made.

So count me in but in a "light" way.

Thank you for the opportunity

All the best


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Linda on Apr 01, 2014, 02:07 PM
Hi Deva and all,

3 three years ago I was dealing with some family issues so could not continue with my interest in this thread.  

Now that things are relatively back to normal, I would like to continue studying the transits as it is such an important topic in one's overall understanding of the timing of events within the paradigm of EA.  

Our studies and findings in this thread will be added to the EA Glossary 2015 edition.

So, along with Skywalker, I'm "in" too (but probably in a fairly light kind of way)!

Love,

Linda  :D



Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Upasika on Apr 01, 2014, 03:02 PM
Hi Deva,

I had always been keen when the thread was running, and obviously completely missed your post asking who wanted to keep going. Otherwise I would have definitely said yes, but as it was I also couldn't fathom how come it suddenly stopped.

It's a bit different now for me though, I'm on the Darwin thread and need to find time to do the last assignment for that, which is proving difficult. But after that, whenever that is, I'd certainly participate if the thread had restarted and was still going.

blessings Upasika


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Katherine on Apr 01, 2014, 04:54 PM
Hi Deva,
I don't know how much I could contribute but, I would love to follow this thread.

God bless,
Katherine


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Susanh on Apr 01, 2014, 05:23 PM
Hi Nemodomi and Susanh. Thanks for the encouragement in restarting this thread. If there is enough interest in this topic I will restart it. Anybody who wants to participate please let me know.

Namaste

Deva

Deva, I am thrilled that you would resurrect this thread of transits!! Yes, I am in.  :D

Namaste

Susan


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: cat777 on Apr 01, 2014, 06:30 PM
Hi Deva,

I too think you should continue.  Like Skywalker, my priority right now is the Neptune thread, but I'd also be willing to contribute in "a light way."

Thanks for your willingness to do this!

cat


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Wei on Apr 01, 2014, 06:37 PM
Hi Deva, i wanna follow this thread.Thank you so much for this opportunity.
God Bless!
Wei


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on Apr 02, 2014, 12:30 PM
Great- so glad there is interest in restarting this thread! How about we begin next week. Please feel free to post any specific questions about transits as well.

Namaste

Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on Apr 08, 2014, 10:19 AM
     Hi all! I would like to restart the thread with a focus on the core evolutionary intentions/meaning of Pluto transits through the houses/signs. Before we discuss specific Pluto transits within houses/signs we must first review the symbolic meaning of Pluto in the natal chart.
     In order to understand the symbolic meaning of Pluto (the Soul) within the natal chart we must first review the core archetype of Pluto/Scorpio/8th house from an evolutionary perspective. One of the  core correlations of the Pluto/Scorpio/8th house archetype is metamorphosis beyond our pre existing limitations. There is a need to psychologically penetrate to the root, or core, causes of such limitations in order to affect growth/metamorphosis. Another essential correlation is to our desire nature. A fundamental teaching that is imparted through Evolutionary Astrology is that the Soul (Pluto) contains two co-equal yet antithetical desires within it: One to return to Source  and one to separate from Source. It is the interaction of these two desires within the Soul that determines what we think we need and the actions that we then put into motion. In other words, desire is the determinate of evolution. This archetype also correlates with the awareness of higher sources of power. The desire to merge with a higher source of power is indicated as well. (Evolution occurs as the Soul begins to merge back with the Universal Creator and progressively exhausts/purges all separating desires).   
      Pluto in the natal chart symbolizes the Soul and the dual desires within the Soul. Pluto's natal placement by house and sign symbolizes the core desires and intentions of the evolutionary past . As a result, Pluto's natal position represents a natural point of gravitation coming into the life  (we all pick up where we left off and Pluto symbolizes where we will pick up in this life). Pluto correlates to the deepest sense  unconscious sense of emotional security that all of us can have. Why? The root cause, or dynamic, to consider is that emotional security is linked with the need to remain self-consistent relative to what has come before (the past). In other words, self consistency is linked with the known and familiar ways of being (our past). The need to change these patterns is to threaten or challenge our deepest sense of security. Yet, in order to evolve and grow we must all embrace the need to change these patterns. It is exactly this natural process of owning the limitations of the past and the simultaneous need to create a  metamorphosis of those patterns that we can experience the interaction of the dual desires within the Soul. 
     Relative to the evolutionary process described above we can understand the core evolutionary/karmic intentions of Pluto transits. In a broad sense, Pluto transits correlate with critical time frames/junctures from an evolutionary point of view. These are times in which dynamics that are creating a situation of non-growth and stagnation within the Soul are confronted at a “bottom line” or “root” level. Pluto transits often correlate with life situations/events of very intense change and transmutation ( it maybe helpful to review the four ways Pluto affects/instigates evolutionary change in the Pluto vol 1 book). It is important to state that our experience of these often stressful and difficult life situations is based on our own desire to either move with the emerging “evolutionary current” or to maintain the security of the past via resisting the evolutionary impulse of the Pluto transits. In other words, if we approach Pluto transits with an attitude of openness and non-defensiveness towards the necessary growth that must occur then we can handle the stress and emotional pain that often surfaces at these times in a way that uses such stress in a productive and regenerative way.

Please feel free to post any questions or provide input before we move on to discussing specific Pluto transits.

Namaste

Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: nemodomi on Apr 09, 2014, 11:06 AM
Thanks for picking up this thread again, Deva! :-)

-- Ken


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Rav on Apr 13, 2014, 02:45 AM
Hi Deva,

I am also glad to hear this thread has been picked up again! I am also trying to improve my own understanding of looking at transits and how they link to our evolutionary growth.

Many thanks,

Rav.


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Susanh on Apr 15, 2014, 01:16 PM
At the risk of exposing my greenhorn naivete I want to share that this recent post of yours, Deva, has shifted me deeply. I tended to think only of the faster moving planets when I thought of transits......

Pluto takes so long I forget about it. Forget it is there in the huge looming background! But when I look at where Pluto is for me right now I am stunned at seeing the matrix it provides for many things that have happened and are happening in my life.

Just like Pluto shapes all the other planets in a birth chart. Of course it must shape the dance of all the transiting planets! Not just from it's place in the natal chart, but also from where it is now. Wow.

So, am I correct to assume we are going to first study transiting Pluto? :)

Namaste

Susan


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on Apr 16, 2014, 08:22 AM
Hi, Susan. Thanks for your post about transits! Yes, we are going to start with Pluto transits to each house/sign and ruling planet (i.e, the next post is about Pluto transiting the first house or to Mars). In terms of understanding the core evolutionary intentions of Pluto transits it is important to remember that any planet that Pluto aspects through transit symbolizes a deep metamorphic process of that planetary function (Mars, Venus, Sun, etc). This process occurs, in a broad sense, through exposing and transmuting dynamics that are specifically linked with the planet that Pluto is transiting which have become limited and creating blocks towards further evolution. Please let me know if there are any questions before we move forward.  Pluto transiting Mars/1st house post will be ready by Monday next week!

Namaste

Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on Apr 17, 2014, 10:39 AM
                    Pluto transiting the 1st house and/or Mars[/b][/b]:

    Before discussing the specific evolutionary intentions of Pluto transiting the 1st house  or forming an aspect to Mars through transit we must review Aries/1st house/Mars archetype. We must also review the connection between the two planets Pluto and Mars.
     The Aries/1st house/Mars archetype correlates with a brand new cycle of evolutionary becoming. As such, the need for freedom and independence in order to discover what the new cycle is about is emphasized in this archetype. Another core correlation is self-discovery through the initiation of any actions that are deemed necessary by the individual to initiate. In other words, the need for freedom and independence is linked with the need for self-discovery and the initiation of a new evolutionary cycle (with what is to come, or in the state of continual becoming). The ability to ask and answer ones own questions from within is reflected in this archetype.
    Another important correlation is to fear. Fear can have many different sources and applications. A core point within this is that fear can be linked with the restriction of personal freedom and the necessary process of self-discovery. In addition, anger can manifest when this critical process is restricted. It is also important to note that  anger can be inappropriately applied/projected onto others or life circumstances that appear to be the cause of such restrictions. It should be clear that anger can also have many different causes and is reflected in this archetype. (The natal house/sign position of Mars indicates the specific nature of fear).  Anger can be used in a constructive or destructive manner in regards to creating positive change by becoming free from inner limitations/dynamics that are causing limitations towards further growth.  In other words,  anger can be used positively to accelerate growth beyond unnecessary personal limitations.
     It maybe helpful to review the connection between Mars and Pluto in order to develop a more comprehensive understanding of this transit. Mars is the lower octave of Pluto. A lower octave is a denser expression of a higher vibration. Mars is often called the conscious expression of Pluto because the unconscious desires contained within the Soul (Pluto) are transmitted to Mars. In this way, we can become aware in a conscious way of the nature of our desires. Mars correlates with a continual state of action, or momentum in the context of the evolutionary/karmic dynamics within the natal chart 
        The evolutionary intention/meaning, in a broad sense, of  when Pluto transits the first house and/or Mars is the initiation of new actions and life direction in regards to emerging impulses and desires. The intention is to then follow and act upon these emerging  impulses in order for a new evolutionary path/cycle to unfold. It can also correlate to a time frame in which is becomes necessary to act upon a core desire in a new, or reformulated manner. The core point within this is that a reformulation and re-expression of the desire nature is symbolized by Pluto/Mars/1st house transits.
       As such, an increasing need for freedom in order to discover what the emerging new evolutionary cycle, or what is next so speak, is commonly experienced when Mars transits the 1st house or Mars. A new aspect of the identity is also emerging, or being born into consciousness. This occurs through through the metamorphosis of limited or outdated aspect of the identity. In addition, if there as been a restriction or  restraint of the expression and formation of the individual's identity then a tremendous amount of evolutionary pressure to be free form such limitations and to act upon, or peruse, the new desires that serve to signal a new life direction that will allow the necessary metamorphosis and evolutionary cycle to unfold. It is not uncommon at this time to have unresolved anger surface both  from within the individual and from others with whom the individual has been involved. As mentioned before anger can be triggered when there is a perceived restriction of personal freedom. It can also be linked with the Soul's increasing need to “get on with it” so to speak, and to discover what the emerging new cycle is about. The key to resolving such anger in a positive way is to encourage the need for independent exploration, and to be free from unnecessary personal limitations that are thwarting the new evolutionary cycle from taking hold.

  Please feel free to post any questions/comments about what I have written.

Namaste
Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Rav on Apr 24, 2014, 09:18 AM
Hi Deva,

What you have written is clear and makes sense. What would be helpful I feel is an example or two showing the effects of Pluto transiting the first house.

Many thanks,

Rav.


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on Apr 25, 2014, 08:39 AM
Hi, Rav. Thanks for your input! Yes, I will invite others to share examples of Pluto Mars/1st house transits and write a few examples as well. Next post will be next week Wednesday at the latest.

Namaste
Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on Apr 30, 2014, 08:14 AM
Hi, all. I was thinking that the best way to proceed is to have those interested in this thread to either post specific questions/area of interest relative to transits and also to reflect on the nature of their own life experience in regards to specific transits as well. Please let me know if this works for this group and feel free to post suggestions.

Namaste
Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Gonzalo on Apr 30, 2014, 09:09 AM
Hi Deva,
Thank you so much for your recent posts about the Pluto transits, which are so clarifying and insightful.

I would like to contribute to this thread with a short example for the Pluto transit to the 1st House. I know a 9 years old kid who right now is experiencing a Pluto transit conjunct the Ascendant, already within his 1st House. My observation is that this transit has correlated with an intense need of the boy to assert his freedom and independence, and to learn to say ‘no’. The kid has the South Node in Libra in the 10th House ruled by Venus in the 12th House in Capricorn, relative to Pluto in the 12th House in Sagittarius-thus, he is very given to say always yes, to think of others in the first place, to always having to be in charge of others or feeling responsible of others, and to give to others to the point of exhaustion, or to withdraw altogether. Given that his North Node is in Aries in the 4th House, a core evolutionary intention of his Soul is to integrate the emotional body in the ongoing conscious awareness and within this, to integrate the energy of anger and aggression.

The day the kid and I talked about this, I observed that he was distressed and sad, however, the boy would say if asked that he was ok, or ‘super’, and seemed unable to identify what he was feeling. I asked him not to think, and to just concentrate on the energy in his throat and in his heart. Before one minute the kid started to cry intensely, and this lasted for about 15 minutes. After this the kid felt much better, and then I asked him about why he was crying. He said he didn’t know. I told him to close his eyes, and just feel the energy, and then come back with the answer. He did this for two seconds, and then he came back and explained that he was angry with his cousin of his same age. He had spent a weekend in company of his cousin and they are very close friends, however the cousin is a bit impulsive and aggressive-he has 4 planets in Aries in the 8th House- and this then allowed or triggered evolutionary needs that are being promoted by the Pluto transit (it is amazing that the boy also has a 5 years old sister who also has four planets in Aries, with natal Pluto in her 1st House).

The kid did two exercises of bioenergetics, one based on saying ‘no’, the other on saying ‘I’. He was asked to make three drawings: one of the situation and imbalance created with the cousin through of the cousin’s aggressive or pushy behavior, and the kid’s inability to stop him or run away-the kid has Saturn, ruler of the first House, in a square to the nodes, and this Saturn is in the 7th House, and Venus is in the 12th House in Capricorn, symbols of a pre-existing unresolved limits. The Saturn square to the nodes resolves through the North Node in the 4th House, reflecting that creation of limits demands to integrate the natural instinctive energy, and natural aggression. So, the second drawing was about how he would create balance in the same situation. And the 3rd was about the result or outcome or the resolved situation.

The kid was then encouraged by his family to accept that he was allowed to say ‘no’. He was explained that he is a kid, not an adult, and that he did not need to be always concerned about the rest of his family. He was also told that his parents were there to be of help to him, not viceversa.

The kid is coming out of a recent period of time when he was a bit withdrawn (before reaching the 1st House cusp, Pluto conjuncted his Venus/Mercury in Cap while transiting his 12th House, still within a 5° orb). He was a bit withdrawn for a couple of months, at home and at school, where he had very few friends, ie. two friends basically. He also was a bit afraid by school duties, which added to some other fears. And he tried during various months during the last school year, and the beginning of the current school year, to face his duties by his sole and raw effort. This was not working so good, and demanded a lot of dedication that left him quite exhausted last year- schools in this country are so stupidly demanding and charging for the kids. He inwardly repressed the fears, anguish, and feelings of aloneness because of his orientation to responsibility, and ultimate standards –Pluto 12th House, South Node in the 10th House ruled by Venus in Cap in the 12th House, etc. also of course the South Node in Libra in the 10th House, ruled by Venus in Cap in the 12th House reflects a pre-exiting dynamic of renunciation or giving up of expectations to be listened and understood for who he is and what his needs are, resulting in trying to cope alone with the whole thing, and much more. Now instead he has given himself permission to say ‘no’ to the school homework at times, and to receive help in order to do the homework in a time-efficient way. He has been explained that getting low marks is not so important by now, and that he will overcome these difficulties (his Sun is Cap in the 1st House, and he has the South Node in the 10th House, so these types of things are and probably will be important to him in some ways, even though, he has had desires in prior lifetimes to withdraw from the system altogether-thus, not doing the homework, however being all day worried about the homework). So, he is being directed and given some structure that allow him to have some work time, and some not-work time-the Pluto polarity point in the 6th House- which results in having more ‘free’ time. And he is using the Mars, 1st House energy not only in his free time, but also in applying desire in order to get the school stuff done quicker, with more energy.

The boy has also manifested some moderate though noticeable levels of the energy of anger at the mother-his North Node in the 4th House in Aries-and this looks like a type of natural energy the kid is using to ‘separate’ and individuate, and to affirm his own desires, needs and instincts, versus a dynamic of wanting to conform to the ‘expectations’ of the parents. The energy of anger is also serving him to question external authority-the 12th House Pluto in Sagittarius rules Scorpio on his 11th House cusp.   

Also the overall energy level of the kid has been noted to be higher now, after a period of time when he was very tired. And he is feeling more vivacious and stronger. The compressed energy in the throat has been released to a noticeable degree, and he is speaking louder, and also shouting and singing loudly. It seems he is now speaking a lot at school with a more varied group of school friends-he has been made to change his seat various times because of this. During the build-up process of the Pluto transit he kid was bullied once at school, and this has not happened again, however he has been talked about the potential for this dynamic to occur, and what to do about it.

God Bless, Gonzalo


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Skywalker on May 02, 2014, 05:19 AM
Hi Group,
 
Here are a couple Pluto/Mars transits I have been thru and would like to share.

When I had Pluto square Mars, I attracted dangerous situations as I was a teenager and had few to no healthy boundaries which led to me associating with all sorts of people that were shady in various ways. Once, because of being so open to others, I attracted someone who wanted to buy some extra parts of my motorbike, parts I didn´t use and would of even given them away but instead ended up with a gun pointed to my head! During the whole situation of me being robbed with a gun pointed at me, I had no fear whatsoever but I had a feeling of revolt and honeslty I felt quite insulted as there was no need for what he was doing. I had no notion of the danger even as he screamed at me out of frustration as I resisted (Pluto) giving away my power and refused to give him what he asked, simply out of feeling what he was doing was plain wrong. Natal Mars is in my Second house in Taurus so it hit my value system and I resisted as much as I could. It turned out O.K in the end as I decided to give him the parts in order to end the conflict as there were more people with me and we were basically being held hostage at gunpoint. A short time later I had a motorcycle accident and fortunately wasn´t badly injured but that was the end of me and motorbikes, at least as my main form of transportation.

Amongst other things, this transit showed me my limits (Pluto) and that I needed to learn about who to trust and who not to trust, it showed me that I needed to learn about physical control of my actions as I tended to push the limits while driving and had no true notion of danger. It also showed me that I put myself in dangerous situations without any notion of what I could be getting into and that I had to be careful with what I did as it could also involve other people that were innocent, like when I was robbed at gunpoint.

When Pluto trined my natal Mars it was like the Universe picked me up out of the blue and brought me good opportunities for advancement within the music scene. I met someone who offered me to play abroad and then things started rolling in a way that I felt massive support and was able to build a name for myself in the music scene and, went to the top of the agency which I was working with. Mars rules my Tenth house. The boss once said “ you couldn´t of gone higher or faster”. I also felt at that time that I evolved quite a bit in my Martial Arts training and managed to acquire some good studio gear to make music with (Second house).

All the best


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on May 02, 2014, 09:35 AM
Hi Gonzalo and Skywalker- thanks for your participation on this thread! You have both provided very insightful posts about Pluto through the 1st house/Mars transits.
Gonzalo- in the example you gave one additional comment I have is about the possibility of breaking out of culturally defined gender assignments/expectations (South Node in Libra/10th house- North Node in Aries/4th house) and being able able to define on his own terms what is right for him via owning his own natural voice and emotional expression as you have described. The natal chart reflects the possibility of cultural definitions and expectations that have been enforced upon him within the family environment (Saturn in the 7th house square the nodal axis of Libra/10th house- Aries in the 4th house). In other words, part of recovering the skipped steps indicated in Saturn square the nodal axis is being able to say "no"  when a cultural/familial expectation is enforced upon him, and also to own his natural emotional expression/body that is independent from these types of definitions and expectations. This will allow a natural integration of the inner male/female to occur over time relative to the 10th/4th nodal axis and square to Saturn in the 7th house. Potentially extreme expressions of behavior could also be brought into a state of balance as this process occurs. The main point within this is that the Pluto transit in the 1st house/Cap indicates that a natural unfolding/recovery of his identity is to "own" and "voice" this aspect of himself and to create a boundary with others who attempt to enforce their own expectations  of  who he should be and how he should develop/express his voice. A new cycle of becoming can occur for him if he continues this process of self-recovery and authentic self-development.

Hi Skywalker- this is a great example of how Pluto transits can manifest in terms of attracting a dangerous situation in which we must make a boundary with those who are aggressively asserting their own needs in unhealthy ways. The vibration of our own fear to assert make this boundary can sometimes
lead to attracting situations in which me must instantaneously do so because our survival is threatened (Mars in Taurus is a great example to use to illustrate this point). In this example, you honored your instinctual response (i.e, how to resolve the situation with minimal conflict) and thankfully emerged unharmed! In both posts you followed your instinctual responses how the right way to act and had positive results. In addition- your examples illustrate that the potential for stressful experiences is indicated when Pluto makes a stressful aspect to Mars and that non-stressful aspects to Mars indicate the potential for experiences that allow a new cycle of becoming to occur as a new opportunity opening up very quickly.

Thanks again for posting these examples!

Namaste
Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Skywalker on May 03, 2014, 07:58 AM
Hi Deva and group,

Thank you Deva for the feedback, I hope others will also contribute with their insights or personal experiences.

I´d like to add that with Pluto Mars/First house transits, there may be the intense desire to break free and start a new cycle even though the direction of the new cycle may be unknown. This can cause the individual to want forward movement away from their current circumstances but not really know how to do so. This not knowing can lead to frustration and anger if the impulse to act and break new ground is not acted upon or satisfied in some way.
In others, the desire for growth can be so strong that the individual just wants to get on with it whole heartedly and jumps right into the new experiences and yet in others, there can be resistance to the evolutionary impulse to go in any direction at all, as to do so implies leaving that which is familiar behind and thus creates insecurity.

All the best


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Gonzalo on May 03, 2014, 12:18 PM
Hi Deva
Thanks so much for the additional feedback. I will observe/inquire how this dynamic manifests in the kid's psyche. It is an emphasized theme because of all the 10th/4th House, Capricorn/Cancer, and the Libra/7th House.
God Bless, Gonzalo


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on May 08, 2014, 08:55 AM
Hi all- I will post again next week about Pluto transit to Venus or through the 2nd house. Please let me know if there are any specific questions I can answer.

Namaste
Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Katherine on May 13, 2014, 06:36 AM
Hi Deva,
Thank you for being so clear and thorough and for reviewing the archetypes.

I am trying to reconcile these pieces:

Pluto transiting the 1st house and/or Mars:
Fear can have many different sources and applications.
...It should be clear that anger can also have many different causes and is reflected in this archetype.
... (The natal house/sign position of Mars indicates the specific nature of fear).  

I had assumed that each planet's position had it's own expression of fears, which now seems incorrect.
So, anger as an emotional reaction to the limitation of personal freedom has a core why and that is based on the individuals conscious desires? When those desires are not met is it the survival instinct that drives the fear?

As far as correlations from people we know...I know a good friend with Pluto in the first house, on the ascendent. So, she was somewhat 'covered', for the injuries and violence she experienced as a child / and through the transit of the remaining part of the first house.  Similar to Skywalker's testimony about pushing limits with "no true notion of danger"  e.g. climbing an industrial extension ladder several stories high. Other instances, in spite of a kind of invincibility, resulted in accidents. More than the usual bruises and scuffed knees, she experienced many falls- one of them over a story high (she was accidentally knocked off by her dog, apparently), multiple collisions with blunt force facial trauma, fractured bone requiring surgery, hardware, and a cast, surgery from a renal issue, 2nd and 3rd degree burns, etc. as well as being around (and hyper-aware of) volatile and/ or violent people.
There is much in her chart that gives context to these events and what the lessons were for her Soul but, in keeping with this transit specifically.. she came away with several lessons: the ability to fall and how to get up and heal instantaneously, not get distracted by the sight of blood, have the instinct to quickly help others during accidents, get loud, distracting and, if necessary, physical with those who are terrorizing/ abusing others, a kind of morphogenesis where she can be really strong when she needs to be, etc.

Thanks Deva

God bless,
Katherine


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: cat777 on May 13, 2014, 09:53 AM
Hi Deva,

The thought of Pluto transiting the 2nd raised a question in my mind.  No need to wait however, as it applies to any house.

I am assuming that we notice the effects of Pluto or Mars transits through a house when the planet is near the cusps.  Not to say that that the transit has no effect further in the house, but that we are most aware of the issues they stir up when they are within orb of either cups.

If that is correct, what would the major differences be between a conjunction at the cusp at the beginning of the house and that at the end? Does the archetype of the preceding house contribute much to the difference?  I assume the conjunction at the beginning of the house results in issues manifesting for the very first time, while those at the end may be more or less about resolving issues that came up but have not yet been addressed.  Is this correct?

Anything else we should consider?

Thanks
cat



Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Katherine on May 13, 2014, 02:25 PM
Hi Deva,
I also have a question about orbs that I have been meaning to ask i.e. generally speaking, with Pluto transiting a planet when is there an effect on the sub-conscious, the conscious awareness, and when does it then manifest in external reality as the events that seem to 'happen to' people? (Understanding that some are much more, or less, sensitive to these energies.) Is this consistant with all planets receiving the transit from Pluto? Is it consistant with other planets transiting? Do transiting orbs have any diversity (e.g. the lights, transpersonal planets) or are they all fixed?
I remember Steve (Wolfson) having a beautiful analogy of a wave breaking. The way I understand it is, the swell (transiting planet) impacts (karma, intentions of the Soul for healing and growth) an island (natal planet) creating the wave (experiences, lessons).
I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.
I hope I am making sense.
Thanks and,

God bless,
Katherine


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on May 14, 2014, 09:08 AM
Hi Cat and Katherine- thanks for posting your questions about transits! Cat- the way I would answer your question is the analogy of a new pair of pants. In a general sense, when a Pluto transit first approaches a house cusp/planet it is like wearing a brand new pair of pants that are not comfortable.Over time the pants are broken in and more comfortable to wear.
      In the Pluto material it uses a 5 degree orb prior to the exact of the transit to symbolize the time frame in which the Soul can start to feel a sense of forewarning or an increasing sense of what is about to come during the approaching transit (the pants are brand new). As the transit approaches the exact aspect the most intense inner and outer changes tend to manifest. 5 degrees after the exact aspect it a time frame in which the Soul can "regroup" so to speak in regards to the evolutionary changes that have occurred (reflection/integration upon what has happened during the exact transit).
     In terms of determining how old or new the evolutionary intention symbolized by the transit we must look at the "overall picture" of the natal chart. For example, The phasal relationship between Mars and Pluto will indicate how many life times the Soul has been working on the current evolutionary intentions within the birth chart (as stated in the Pluto vol 2. book- it typically takes a Soul 8 life times to accomplish specific evolutionary intentions). In addition, in the natal chart if the aspect is 5 degrees prior to the exact aspect then it symbolizes that the evolutionary intention is brand new/just beginning. If it is 5 degrees after the exact aspect it symbolizes that the evolutionary intentions are old and have been worked on prior to the current life. We must include this understanding in our interpretations of transits. For example, in the Pluto material a case illustration is given in which an individual has Pluto in aspect to the Moon. The individual experienced very intense emotional shocks at an early age via the parents such as being put in an orphanage and also overhearing in a conversation that his parents did not love or want him.  However, because the Pluto/Moon aspect was almost 5 degrees after the exact aspect the individual used these experiences to further grow and evolve in terms of developing a positive and healthy self-image, and to minimize emotional expectations at a very early age (Pluto/Moon aspect). In other words, because the individual was more or less "used to" these types of experiences they were used in constructive ways to facilitate ongoing personal growth. Again, this is symbolized by the Pluto/Moon aspect in a late degree (5 degrees after the exact aspect).
      In a broad sense I can answer your questions of cusp degrees based on what I have learned so far in the Pluto material about phases and aspects.  I have learned that any planet/cusp that is at 0 degrees symbolizes a brand new evolutionary cycle of becoming/development (the evolutionary intention is just beginning and is new). I have also learned that a planet/cusp at 29 degrees is in an evolutionary process of culmination/completion. In this sense it can create a transmutation of the sign in the culminating phase (29 degrees) with the following sign in order to begin a new phase of development (symbolized by 0 degrees). For example, if Pluto is at 29 degrees of Libra in a birth chart it can be determined that the Soul is intended to bring to completion the generalized  evolutionary intentions associated with Pluto in Libra. If Pluto is at 0 degrees of Libra it tends to indicate that the generalized evolutionary intentions are in a brand new cycle of becoming.

Katherine- I love the analogy of a wave breaking! In my experience, the closer a Pluto transit approaches the exact aspect the more intense the desire for unconscious content/patterns to come into conscious which are creating blocks and point of stagnation becomes. In my experience, it is the progressive feeling of the need to change/unlock from these dynamics that then creates a build up emotional energy that is linked with the evolutionary need to grow/evolve beyond current limitations. Transits can induce the "bubbling up" or surfacing of unconscious material because of the need to bring into conscious awareness the dynamics that need to be changed during these time frames.

Thanks again for posting these great questions and please let me know if anything I have written is unclear.

Namaste
Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: cat777 on May 14, 2014, 10:54 AM
Hi Deva,

Thank you so much for taking the time to answer that so thoroughly.  I just took a quick look at my chart and realize that transiting Pluto is within orb of my third house - new pants! I haven't thought too much about it, but yes, things have been happening that correlate with this.  It won't be long before we get to the third house, so I may be able to contribute to that discussion :-)

I'm also glad you brought up the 0 and 29 degrees bit.  I have alot of that going on in my natal chart, including Pluto at 0 degrees, so new things to contemplate as I begin to think about this Pluto transit :-)

Thanks again,
cat


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on May 16, 2014, 08:32 AM
Pluto transiting the second house/Venus-
 
      In order to discuss Pluto transits through the 2nd house or to Venus we must first review the archetype of Taurus/2nd house/Venus. One of the core correlations of this archetype is to the survival instinct. (The survival instinct is one of the strongest instincts within us so do not underestimate its influence/impact within consciousness).  What we identify for survival purposes will be given a significant degree of meaning/value which are also reflected in this archetype.  Our inner relationship and magnetism/vibration is a core correlation of Taurus. This archetype also indicates a “frog in the well” type of orientation in general. In other words, the frog has identified only a small piece of the sky from the bottom of the well and this small piece as become the total sky/universe.
         Taurus is co-ruled by Venus with the archetype of Libra. The Libra side of Venus reflects the projected, or external, nature of Venus in that it correlates with the relationships we have with other people. The inner side of Venus is reflected by Taurus which symbolizes our inner relationship with self and our resulting inner vibration. It is our inner relationship with self that is then causative factor of the external relationships that we form with others both on a casual and intimate level. The critical, or core point, within this is that we must learn to see our relationships as a reflection point of our inner relationship. In other words, we all attract what we need without knowing that we need it! (When we learn to see our relationships in this way we can learn how to truly listen and also how to truly given in regards to that we can establish a necessary balance and equality within relationships. This dynamic is symbolized by the 7th house/Libra side of Venus).
     It is important to state that a core correlation of the Taurus archetype is to self-reliance and self-sufficiency. In other words, it is through this archetype that we become aware of inner resources and capacities that will allow us to establish self-reliance on both a physical and emotional level. In order to learn these lessons we must often experience being “thrown back” upon ourselves in various ways. It is when we become to dependant on others or others become to dependant on us that this dynamic is put into play. In addition, when mutually projected needs are not met within relationships the Taurus archetype reflects were we can become self-reliant by learning to first meet these needs from within ourselves.  Astrologically speaking, this type of crisis is reflected in the inconjunction between the Taurus and Libra archetypes.
     When Pluto transits Venus or the 2nd house cusp an essential reevaluation and reformulation of our inner relationship with self, and of our values/meaning is underway. It correlates to a timeframe in which core lessons of self-reliance are typically enforced in various ways. Positively, these experiences can promote an awareness of new meaning and values, and a deepening of the inner relationship with self.  For example  an individual who had Pluto transiting the 2nd house  was suddenly divorced and left on her own by her partner of many years because she would no longer relate to him from the limits of the “frog in the well” orientation. She stated that she advocated change because  only the  most very basic needs within the relationship were meet by the each person.  (This is rooted in a mutually co-dependent orientation within relationships which her Soul now desires to purge and transmute during this transit). She voiced that her essential needs were not being meet and asked for change yet the partner felt threatened by these new needs and she was thrown back on herself in order to enforce the necessary evolutionary changes that needed to occur. Another way these transits can manifest is the awareness of an inner resource/ capacity that we can now utilize in order to affect the necessary transmutation of our inner relationship/values via our own self-effort.  For example, during a Pluto transit to Venus an individual become aware of an intrinsic capacity to write and also counsel (in her natal chart Venus is conjunct Mercury and Neptune, and Moon in the 3rd house). It required that she make essential and necessary inner adjusts in regards to her inner relationship because of the underlying values and meaning that this new orientation represented as well as actualize this capacity via her won self-effort.
Please reflect on the nature of these archetypes and transits and post questions and illustrations as time allows.

Namaste
Deva
     
     


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: cat777 on May 19, 2014, 10:51 AM
I had Pluto enter into my 2nd House circa 2000.  It is now within orb of leaving and about 2.5 degrees away from the 3rd house cusp.  I haven't really had time to dwell on this, but off the top of my head, this coincides with a period of my life in which I finally settled down into a career working for a corporation and became involved in a committed living together relationship with another person. When Pluto came within orb of the 3rd house cusp, the relationship came to an end first, and then, more recently, I quit my job and have been working independently so to speak.  It seems that an entire era of my life was defined by this transit.  It was brought into being, experienced, and is now being brought to a close.


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on May 22, 2014, 09:33 AM
Hi, Cat. Thanks for posting your example! Pluto transiting in the 2nd house house can indicate experiences that you have described in terms of acquiring a steady job and relationship that can be maintained/sustained for a long period of time and which are highly meaningful. In my view, these experiences are necessary in terms of "grounding" or "rooting" into oneself via self-consolidation and self-reliance reflected in the long term job and relationship. In terms of the transit shifting into the 3rd house it can signify the need to embrace more of a diversity within life in a general sense (i.e, Gemini's expansion out of the "frog in the well"/limited orientation that creates stagnation/non-growth during the 2nd house transit). In other words, in a broad sense, the shift of Pluto from  the 2nd house into the 3rd house indicates the Soul's progressive need generate a diversity of experiences to expand/grow beyond the self-consolidation/ isolation that can occur during the 2nd house transit.  Again, a necessary self-reliance and reformulation of values and meaning in life occurs when Pluto transits the 2nd house/Venus.  Please let me know if you have any questions or need clarification about what I have written.

Namaste
Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: cat777 on May 22, 2014, 12:09 PM
Hi Deva,

Everything you say makes perfect sense.  I needed some "grounding," but as time rolled on, things did get stagnant and I was certainly living in a well :-)  I'm glad you mention a need for diversity as my mind was thinking of many of the other third house archetypes and missing the obvious - diversity!  My life was pretty diverse prior to this transit, and it seems that diversity is coming back into play, but in a more grounded way. 

Thanks for your insight!

cat


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Wei on May 23, 2014, 09:09 PM
Hi Deva, thank you for this thread. I'd like to share pluto/venus transit experience.

Pluto is squaring my natal venus libra (rules NN taurus), 2 degrees from exact square. I have been simplifying my relationship, give myself the right to be myself, only spend time/energy with people who makes me comfortable, learn to say no to those who project negative judgement towards me, also try to recognize my projection towards others when it creates so much anger/fear. I am learning to balance taurus/libra side, stop repeating the cycle of going extreme (over pleaseing others/shut down, cut off relationship). This process helps me to relate myself in a new way, clean out much guilty feeling and self-blame. As i can give recognization to my inner resource, others get the positive energy, either i attract poeple who support me or they are less judgemental. Also they give me the private time/space i need without misinterpreting my intent.

I resonate with the example in your post as well, i am trying (push myself to be ready) to write down (NN 3rd house) what i know/learnt (venus/SN 9th house), record my dreams (transit pluto in 12th house), and share with others, that's the meaningful relationship i always wanted. When i try to provide what i know for others in a way they resonate/understand, i feel i am attracting like-minded people, which give me more courage to embrace change further. After all, pluto is intense, at some point i'll suddenly freak out, feel i can't do it, i am not ready, just want to hide or go back to comfortable zone, stay there for good!

I just checked the day of my first EA reading with you, pluto began to square my venus 5 degree! After that, i feel the process of studying EA was accelerated, also i dig into deeper layer to understand myself, the intersting thing is, it's easier for me to read complicated thread/book in english, like the practice i have done before was finally ready to go to a deeper level.


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on May 25, 2014, 08:19 AM
Hi, Wei. Thanks for posting your example! Yes, isolating and/or withdrawing from the environment in the ways you have described can occur during this transits. As you said, withdrawing /rooting into oneself allows a new inner strength to emerge in which you do not loose touch with your own essence despite negative judgments from others and can hold onto, or preserve, what is meaningful and valuable for you at this time. When Pluto transits the third house a deeper level of communication/expression can manifest as a reflection of maintaining/preserving your inner values/meaning within relationships in the context of Pluto's square to natal Venus in Libra and North Node in Taurus.

I will post Pluto transiting Mercury/3rd house by Wednesday next week at the latest.

Namaste
Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Skywalker on May 27, 2014, 05:17 AM
Hi Deva and Group,

I´d just like to share that recently I saw the chart of someone that had experienced transiting Pluto trine her natal Venus in Taurus. This transit for her, marked an important time of self discovery, of independence, of personal growth and financial independence. She began relating to herself in new ways which had the effect of deepening her knowledge of herself and her own identity, knowledge about her personal needs and basically grew a lot as an individual as she moved out of her parents house to live alone, as she fought for her independent survival thru her work.

I am sharing this example as it´s a great example of how the inner side of Venus is expressed and experienced. We must first relate to ourselves in order to be able to give and receive love, to and from another, via the Libra archetype.

All the best


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on May 27, 2014, 08:58 AM
  Hi Skywalker. Thanks for posting your illustration- it is a good example of how a harmonious aspect to Venus (trine) can promote the inner growth/evolution you have described!

                         Pluto transiting Mercury/3rd house

                            Gemini/3rd house/Mercury
     
     In order to discuss Pluto transits to Mercury/3rd house we must first review the core
archetype of Gemini/3rd house/Mercury. The Gemini archetype reflects the need to
 re- expand out of the “frog in the well” orientation of the previous archetype of Taurus. This
archetype symbolizes the need to organize our world in a logical, empirical, and rational
manner. In other words, Gemini reflects the need to give names, labels, and classifications to the physical/external environment.

     As a result, a core correlation of Gemini is to communication , and the need to collect a diversity of facts/information/data from the external environment. It is important to note that, in and of itself, the need to know as much as possible is symbolized by this archetype. Gemini/Mercury/3rd
house in the birth chart symbolizes the nature of the information we desire to collect and also the nature of our own communication with others. For example, if Mercury is in the 8th house or Scorpio we can determine that the individual will communicate in a way that is succinct, bottom line,and psychologically
based/oriented. In addition, most commonly Mercury in the 8th symbolizes that the individual does not desire excessive communication (only as it is necessary). If an individual has Mercury in the 7th house/Libra it can be determined that the individual desires to share information and to learn through comparison/contrast with others. There is also an extremity in regards to the mental framework which must be brought into balance symbolized by the 7th house/Libra archetype. 
      In addition, the individual will naturally desire to communicate with others/take in the view
points of others as a way to expand upon the existing mental framework.
As previously mentioned, Gemini correlates to the rational, empirical, logical, and left
brain function within consciousness in regards to mental organization. It is this archetype/function within consciousness that desires to explain the connection to the universe from a logical and rational perspective/standpoint.

     This archetype reflects that deductive logic (i.e, A+B+C=D) is used in an attempt to build/understand the whole. Mercury co-rules both Gemini and Virgo. This co-rulership reflects the inner and outer nature of Mercury. The external nature of Mercury is reflected in Gemini and the need to collect a diversity of facts and information from the external world. The inner nature/side of Mercury is reflected by the Virgo archetype and the need to inwardly process/analyze/organize the information that is collected from the external environment. In other words, it is the Virgo archetype within consciousness that analyzes and organizes the information all the information/data/facts that are collected via the Gemini archetype. As such, Virgo reflects the inner side of Mercury and Gemini reflects the external or outer side of Mercury.
                                   
                               Pluto Transiting Mercury/3rd house
     
      When Pluto transits Mercury/3rd house it reflects that a fundamental reformulation of the mental/intellectual structure is at hand. This is a time frame in which we must confront and transmute limited and rigid mental patterns. This is necessary in order to expose intellectual patterns and ideas that are preventing further growth. A growing need for diversity and to reach out for new experiences is a reflection of the need for mental expansion/reformulation.  In order to enforce this evolutionary need bias, personal opinions and prejudices of all sorts are commonly brought to consciousness awareness either through internal or external confrontations. For example, sudden arguments commonly occur at this time because the individual is stuck or fixed within his or her limited mental framework/attitude and cannot see the legitimacy of the others point of view. The individual can also suddenly erupt and confront others because the information that is communicated is now perceived as superficial, shallow and lacking in necessary depth. It is important to understand when this occurs it directly reflects the evolutionary need for the individual to deepen their intellectual framework and eliminate outdated/ridged mental patterns. In this way, a deepening of the mental mind can occur.
     In addition to the above, we must look at the natal position of Mercury by house and sign locality to determine how this evolutionary process may manifest.  In a broad, or general, sense the individual maybe intellectually “open” or “fixed.” Intellectually open types will not want to commit to a point of view/perspective, and typically tend to play “devils advocate”  in order to defend this mental structure/orientation.  In other words, these individuals will commonly try to refute those who attempt to point out an error in deficiency in information/ideas that have been collected/absorbed. In intellectually open types there is a mental openness to almost any point of view. As a result, the individual does not have a consistent point of view or a way to truly assimilate the information that is absorbed. This then creates conflicting points of view/information (revolving door of perspectives). 

  Conversely, if the individual is the fixed or closed types he or she will typically reject or deny the view points which do not reflect or validate his or her own view point(s). In this intellectually closed condition, the individual will habitually defend their pre existing view points and resist absorbing the legitimate information/perspectives that will allow a natural and necessary mental deepening and expansion to occur. In a general sense, if Mercury is in a fixed sign/position in the natal chart (e.g, Mercury in Scorpio or the 8th house) it tends to indicate an intellectually fixed typed.  Generally speaking, if Mercury is in a mutable position in the birth chart (e.g, Mercury in Sagittarius or the 9th house) it tends to indicate a mentally open type. Again, the core point within this is to illustrate how this evolutionary reformulation/transmutation may take place when Pluto transits the 3rd house/Mercury.
      As an illustration of the above a client experienced an intense reformulation of her mental framework as Pluto transited her Mercury in Sagittarius in the 7th house.  During this time she become aware of the nature of her own exaggerations and extremities in regards to a need to align with her natural truth via embracing a deeper understanding of natural laws/principles of which she had not previously been aware. For example, she shared that it was during this transit that she first became aware of the nature of her own extremities within relationships relative to an inner need to compensate for her natural nature/truth because of an underlying need to be needed (transiting Pluto in the 7th house and natal Mercury conjunct Venus and Neptune). She was able to communicate that she felt she was always looking for a reflection of herself via a partner/relationship. In essence, she felt that she was unconsciously attracting others who appeared to be “teacher types” and possessed a wisdom that she currently lacked (natal Sun in Sagittarius/6th house). She realized that she was "setting up" this type of imbalance/extremity and wanted to bring it into balance/harmony at this time.
     Positively speaking, this transit induced the necessary communication/intellectual intake to bring this dynamic to light/conscious awareness. She was able to see through comparison and contrast those who were “natural teachers” and who encouraged others to develop and trust their own intuitive knowledge by embracing information that is founded on natural laws/principles verses those who attempted to impose their ideas and opinions and desired to play a teacher type role within relationships (Venus/Mercury/Neptune conjunction in Sagittarius/7th house). This dynamic was brought to resolution and completion as reflected by Neptune's conjunction to Mercury in the natal chart. As a reflection of her desire to mentally grow and expand beyond these limitations a very affirming message that she received at this time was to trust and develop her own "inner teacher" via the Sagittarius archetype.

     Thanks again for the participation within this thread and please post any questions and illustrations!

Namaste

Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: robin on May 28, 2014, 07:23 AM
Hi Deva,

Great example to help understand Pluto and mercury however it may relate.  Pluto transits through third or Pluto on Mercury or other Pluto aspects to mercury.  I do have a question though about chart emphasis and where to focus...Let's say you have Pluto transiting through your third..you look to natal mercury to get more information on the mental structure of this soul and the evolutionary possibilities..closed, open etc.
But, how would you read for example mercury in Sag. in the second, ruler Jupiter in the 8th (inconjunct relationship by signs)?  Closed or open? Sag open, but 2nd house and 8th not so much :)  How I would interpret that would be a soul desiring to expand and understand how he/she relates to their own resources, to expand their philosophical framework around resources..both as an individual and to understand my shared resources with others??  A strong emphasis on learning what beliefs and ideas are providing self sufficiency and self-worth  and also how that relates to my relationship with others (8th), giving, sharing in a more natural way?  Following "real" values, and the necessary adjustment and crisis around that.  Perhaps where there has been manipulation, power struggles etc.

Would love your input.  I am realizing how Pluto is really ALWAYS our bottom line, natally and in transit and how much about our current life unfolding process can be understood this way. :)

Love,

Robin


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on May 28, 2014, 10:37 AM
Hi, Robin- great questions about Pluto/Mercury transits! From the symbols you have given I would interpret it has an ongoing need to embrace a deeper sense of truth in the context of expansion via natural laws (Mercury in Sagittarius)  than has been identified for survival purposes (isolated "frog in the well" perspective of Mercury). Keep in mind that the 2nd house Mercury will be fixed in the sense of only mentally absorbing facts/information that are personally relevant. Positively expressed, this can manifest as developing self-reliance via embracing natural principles/laws that promote the ideas you have stated (self-effort/natural values, etc).
      In regards to Jupiter in the 8th inconjunct to Mercury it symbolizes a crisis when the belief systems  become limited/outdated and do not allow further growth because the need to embrace deeper truths/laws via self-effort will threaten the person's current survival needs and resulting meaning/values in life in a general sense. In other words, the person will be "stretched" to expand upon their current philosophical/metaphysical understanding of life via an experience of crisis that serves to thrown the individual back upon him or herself and identify the limitations of the current mental/philosophical framework (Mercury in Sag/2nd house inconjunct Jupiter in the 8th house).  Positively speaking, the individual could then deepen this psychological knowledge/wisdom  and "root" into the process of overcoming the limitations described above. In this way, the fixed energy in the chart Mercury in the 2nd/Jupiter in the 8th) can become an asset in terms of this becoming a fix pattern that promotes ongoing evolution/growth instead of stagnation and resistance to necessary change.
     In terms of a focus point/what to emphasize I would advise to promote the idea that crisis in indented to "show" the individual necessary points of mental/intellectual deepening and also that the resources that are sought lie within the individual verses seeking external sources for the desires growth and expansion (Mercury in Sagittarius/2nd house inconjunct Jupiter in the 8th house).

   In the context of Pluto/Mercury transits the individual a progressive loss of meaning/stagnation within the mental/philosophical and desire to generate a diversity of experiences to bring the necessary knowledge that will allow the expansion/evolution described above. One way this can occur is coming into contact with natural "teacher types" who promote the core ideas stated above and founded on natural laws/principles. The individual will naturally feel the limitations of their mental/intellectual structure yet potentially be able to "interpret" (Jupiter in the 8th house) this in a positive way instead of from a dis empowered standpoint.   

     Please let me know if anything I have written is unclear or if you have any more illustrations/questions!

Namaste
Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: robin on May 28, 2014, 11:48 AM
Thanks Deva!  I hope these clarifications help all of us :)   I do have a question about what you wrote below in red:

Looking at Mercury as Pluto transits 3rd house...As I mentioned mercury in 2nd in Sag, ruler Jupiter in 8th in Taurus (natural inconjunct)...would I have been off target to focus more Jupiter 8th house as the bottom line for the crisis?  Jupiter being the slower moving planet (compared to Mercury)?  Of course, I didn't mention that it was in Taurus so what you described below seems right on point.  However, I would have interpreted it more from the 8th house side?  As this soul is invited to change/release, reinvent, and transform ideas/thoughts through necessary crisis, thereby expanding ones mental constructs of self (my values/needs), and how to relate to others in a symbiotic mutual understanding of values? This would occur through necessarily experiencing psychological limitations, via power struggles/control issues, shared resources with others.  How I relate to myself (2nd house) in an honest and truthful way??? What resources are in alignment with my natural self?

Make sense where I may be missing the boat?  Also, how do you then pull in the sign on the house cusp?  Which takes priority in interpretation?  In other words, Pluto is transiting third...we look to Mercury..mercury is in a sign and house, and the ruler (in this case) is in an inconjunct relationship in the 8th.  At which point would you look at the house cusp in this scenario and pull it into the interpretation?
Let's say Scorpio is on the 2nd house cusp...so now that seems to give us a little more information that there is a transformative process going on with this 2nd house, and brings in 8th house stuff again.  So would we say then that this Pluto transit is emphasized because of the ruler of Mercuy in the 8th house and Scorpio on the cusp?  Kinda like a double signature....indicating that Jupiter crisis (Jupiter in Taurus in 8th) of how to interpret  and make meaning of my values, self reliance and how that relates to others resources.. what is important to understand & how to connect the dots.

Hope this is clear...:)

In terms of a focus point/what to emphasize I would advise to promote the idea that crisis in indented to "show" the individual necessary points of mental/intellectual deepening and also that the resources that are sought lie within the individual verses seeking external sources for the desires growth and expansion (Mercury in Sagittarius/2nd house inconjunct Jupiter in the 8th house).


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on May 29, 2014, 07:51 AM
Hi, Robin. Thanks for the clarification questions! I would start by looking at Mercury's natal position (house and sign) and then look to the planetary ruler of the sign of Mercury as you have already demonstrated (Jupiter in the 8th house) to add more information about the specific dynamics/areas of life that are linked the core evolutionary process of Pluto/Mercury transits.
     In order to understand how to add house cusps to the interpretation look to the sign on the house cusp first (e.g, Scorpio in the 2nd house) to determine how the archetype is being conditioned/filtered through the specific house it is in. From there, look at the planetary ruler of the sign on the house cusp (e.g, look to Pluto if Scorpio is on the 2nd house cusp). This provides additional information on the nature of how the sign on the house cusp is conditioned/or filtered through the house it is in.

Namaste
Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Katherine on Jun 08, 2014, 08:13 AM
Hi Deva,
I'm catching up so, I'll continue from where I left off, about my friend, with Pluto transiting from the first through the second and into the third house, where it is today.
After the gauntlet of Pluto through the first, my childhood friend really retreated into her own world, transiting Pluto in Scorpio through the 2nd. Trying to avoid dangerous physical activities, and loud, violent, angry people--and any potential physical confrontation. Feeling very limited in her ability to provide for herself in the event of fallout with her family. Unfortunately, for her, that meant less time outside. Locking herself in her room she went inside, into books, sketch books, 'anywhere but here.' Truly 'frog in the well' she felt more connected to dead writers, mystics, saints and artists than anyone known in the flesh.
"The best moments in reading are when you come across something - a thought, a feeling, a way of looking at things - which you had thought special and particular to you. And now, here it is, set down by someone else, a person you have never met, someone even who is long dead. And it is as if a hand has come out, and taken yours." Alan Bennett
She just did not create any openings other than for the things she absolutely valued and cherished or absolutely had to deal with relative to her basic survival needs, very 'lock and key'. She only wanted to hear from the masters, the ones closest to spirit. When Pluto transited Uranus she committed a social suicide, of sorts by going to a different district (over an hour away) for high school, where she was never accepted. This was extremely painful at times for her because she had constructed in her mind ideas about how mature and open she though everyone would be. Not the case as this was an unrealistic expectation based on her personal values and entitlement that others come to her. In the three years she attended (she did her senior year in college) classmates thought she was a) in another class or b) a teachers assistant or c) a college student auditing (Pluto's helmet of invisibility here) For the few friends she had, who she rarely saw, she mostly functioned as a soundboard and therapist. Not feeling 'heard' she became increasingly depressed until therapy became necessary. Her family's support came via a psychiatrist and heavy medication, which created the psycho-somatic experience of anxiety escalating to panic attacks. (I think the lack of social interaction during the 'formative' years of junior high and high-school still echos in her life today. As does the reflex to consume in order to avoid emotional pain.)
Fast forward, Pluto in Sag (retrograde) transiting natal Venus: when she had reached a point with school and writing where she said to herself 'if you keep continue isolating yourself in this way, you will not actually know anybody, or really be known; really love anybody, or be loved.' And then she 'threw the baby out with the bathwater' (studies, writing, art) and tried to 'join the world,' desperately trying to 'feel' and have meaningful experiences that were her own. Also, I think, she was just really lonely and tired of all the work and efforting without any clear purpose or goal other than personal curiosity and to perpetuate a self-image of specialness and unique value. (No context, no market, no value.) This was actually not a period of growth but, of involution, a drifting from her true self, and an immersion into sensory (separating) desires. It took years for her to see it as a reaction to the extremity of her years estranged.
Later, she met the person who she 'loved the most in this world' and who got the closest to her. Still, her outward life gained beautiful possessions, while her inner life lost meaning. Five years later, when Pluto transited (retrograde) her natal Neptune, to the degree, this man died. (For a moment she had a transcendent experience and understanding of his passing, their connection through time. But then, just completely indulged in depression, self-medication e.g. smoking, drinking, and 'retail-therapy')
When Pluto, still in Sag, was crossing the third house cusp and transiting natal Mercury she had a frantic agitation with herself. (Pluto was in crescent phase to itself.) She was in massage school and still ran around everywhere learning new healing modalities, trying to get help, doing lab work, taking tests, in and out of therapy, astrology, talking/reading constantly. She tried everything she could that sounded feasible, just 'bleeding' and 'making a mess everywhere'. She enrolled in a three year spiritual studies program which focused on emotional awareness and personal accountability which, was indispensable.) Also, Pluto was transiting inconjunct to her natal Ceres retrograde in Cancer in the 9th. She became vegan and did many cleanses for the intestines, liver, and kidneys and unlocked emotional dynamics through yoga, meditation, and fasting that no about of chatter however 'deep' could come close to revealing. She confronted deeply rooted emotional dynamics that were completely embedded in her belief systems, Sag ruler Jupiter in the 12th that were extreme idealistic concepts (Libra). Through cleansing she was learning the direct effect on mood and psychological health the gut (aka second brain because of the degree of nerve innervation) but she did not understand the power of these 'holding' dynamics i.e. the level that she was unwinding until much later.   
Pluto, still in range of Mercury, transited her Sun (Cap) to the degree, within seconds, and she was referred by an astrologer who knew JWG, to the Pluto book. My friend described reading it for the first time like wearing an oxygen mask. (She says she still feels this way) SN Aquarius, ruler Uranus in the 2nd/ house cusp Scorpio, Pluto in the 1st, conjunct the ASC. Owing to the many layers of unworthiness and insecurity in her chart and active in her awareness, she held off her study of astrology. In true cardinal shuffle form (two steps forward, one step back) she'd make an effort, and drop it. Find another direction, make an effort, and drop it. Until last year 'when things got really bad...' she says and she just made a decision to 'be here' and make the self-determined effort to study the one modality she has total faith and confidence in, regardless of outcome.
Now Pluto is no longer in transiting range to her Sun, or any other planet, in the third house --though it will be transiting Mars in a few years. A very compassionate and loving astrologer told her, "I think on some level you know you need to do this on your own" At the time she said 'it felt poignant, it had a Sisyphean gravitas.' In the wake of these transiting conjunctions (and the information overload, which came to a crescendo) a recognition set in for her to recognize the underlying dynamic of needing to be a 'knower' or to 'have all the means and answers'. She is now looking at the dynamics within herself of the compulsive search which, is a thin artifice of staying busy and informed in order to feel worthy and secure- a distraction from the pain of powerlessness. However, it seems, the more effort she puts in, getting back to her instinctual self, cooperating with her evolutionary growth, and speaking with integrity (Pluto in Cap, 3rd) about things 'that really matter' the more her tasks sound and feel like the right fit.

Thanks Deva!
God bless,
Katherine


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on Jun 09, 2014, 07:57 AM
Hi, Katherine. Thanks for posting this wonderful illustration of transits moving into various houses (1st/2nd /3rd houses). Also, your post includes specific examples of Pluto transiting Venus and Neptune. It sounds to me like while Pluto was transiting the 1st house your friend was having instinctual responses to the environment that were based on past experiences (i.e, i only want to hear from saints and have experiences are perceived as "safe"). When Pluto went into the 2nd house it seems to me that there was an intensified desire to withdraw into herself and isolate from the external word in an extreme way (this is reflected also by Pluto Venus/transit). In order to counteract this extreme (Pluto/Venus transit) she went to the opposite extreme in the ways you described by opening up to others again to try to re-integrate into the social environment and form friendships. The Pluto/Neptune transit served to realign her with ultimate meaning through the experience of disillusionment. It could also indicate that an evolutionary cycle was being brought to resolution/closure at this time in an intense way  (and perhaps to counteract an extreme within that relationship relative to Pluto/Venus transit) through the loss of a very close friendship. When Pluto went into the third house it sounds like she was looking to "re-frame"  or to expand upon her previous understanding of her experiences through mental analysis and intake of new information/facts, etc. This allows the evolution you described of being able speak about things that matter with self-authenticity and integrity (Pluto in cap/3rd house). Let me know if anything I have written is unclear. i will post Pluto transiting the 4th house/Moon by Friday this week at the latest.

Thanks again for posting these illustrations!

Namaste
Deva

I will post

     
 

   


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Katherine on Jun 09, 2014, 06:18 PM
Hi Deva,
Wow. Thank you for boiling down each phase of the transit to its essence. Each piece was very clear.

It sounds to me like while Pluto was transiting the 1st house your friend was having instinctual responses to the environment that were based on past experiences (i.e, i only want to hear from saints and have experiences are perceived as "safe").

You bring up a big point here regarding the influence of the past and her impulse toward safety. (The physical isolation is certainly clear in its practicality: isolation as means of self-protection.) But now I am wondering about why she chose to read and invest herself in the things she did i.e. were the decisions imparted from the ego/personality or the Soul... Was the higher vibration of these sources (saints, god/desses, protagonists just patching up what she lacked from her external environment. Or a calling to go within, instill, and deepen her core values. Or a combination.

When Pluto went into the 2nd house it seems to me that there was an intensified desire to withdraw into herself and isolate from the external word in an extreme way (this is reflected also by Pluto Venus/transit). In order to counteract this extreme (Pluto/Venus transit) she went to the opposite extreme in the ways you described by opening up to others again to try to re-integrate into the social environment and form friendships.

Yes, it was a 'night and day' flip. It wasn't even about recreating theories and ideas on the tangible plane. Whatever was happening with the other, nearly irregardless of the quality, that was 'living life.'

The Pluto/Neptune transit served to realign her with ultimate meaning through the experience of disillusionment. It could also indicate that an evolutionary cycle was being brought to resolution/closure at this time in an intense way  (and perhaps to counteract an extreme within that relationship relative to Pluto/Venus transit) through the loss of a very close friendship.

I think there was definitely a nexus of dependencies for part of their association i.e. while they were romantically involved. And on her side, there was some serious 'savior searching' initially, which later rounded into a strong sense of 'tribe.' Regardless, the experience necessarily threw her back on herself to yes, exactly, "realign herself with ultimate meaning."

When Pluto went into the third house it sounds like she was looking to "re-frame"  or to expand upon her previous understanding of her experiences through mental analysis and intake of new information/facts, etc. This allows the evolution you described of being able speak about things that matter with self-authenticity and integrity (Pluto in cap/3rd house).

Yes.

Thank you so much Deva.
God bless,
Katherine


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on Jun 11, 2014, 08:57 AM
                         Pluto transiting the 4th house/Moon

                            Moon/4th house/ Cancer archetype
          The archetype of the Moon/4th house/Cancer correlates to the self-image. This archetype reflects the distinct a personal self-image that forms relative the facts/information/data that were collected via the Gemini archetype.  Again, this archetype correlates to the specific egocentric structure/self-image. It is important to not that the ego within consciousness is absolutely necessary because it allows the current life lessons to be integrated in the context of the current life. The analogy that is given to us in the Pluto material to illustrate this point is a lens on a movie projector. Without the lens there would just be diffused images of light. Similarly, the ego is structured in such a way as to support the ongoing evolution of the Soul via integration of the unique life lessons for the current life. This archetype also reflects the anima/animus (inner male/female) dynamic. The anima/animus reflects the natural truth that every Soul is inherently both male and female. Over a great length of evolutionary time we integrate both the inner male and inner female within us.
     Another core correlation of the Cancer archetype is to the emotional body (the totality of the emotional body is reflected in the water triad completed by the Scorpio and Pisces archetypes). The subjective, or conscious, sense of emotional security is reflected by the cancer archetype. The natal placement of the Moon (by house and sign position) will indicates areas that are linked with emotional security. It is important to note that Moon also represents the central dynamic of nurturing. This reflects areas in which we can or cannot nurture ourselves or others. It also reflects the parental figure that served as the primary nurturer in younger years of life (typically this is the mother). The ability of the mother to nurture us in ways that we need is symbolized by this archetype as well.
     The essential lesson within this archetype is to internalize emotional security. We must all learn via this archetype to progressively meet our emotional security needs from within ourselves instead of seeking from external sources.  In this way we naturally minimize our dependencies on others/the environment.  In addition, the self-image progressively shifts from negative to positive over time. Potentially, we can learn to remain inwardly secure no mater what external environment we find ourselves in (we become self-secure).

                               Pluto transiting the Moon/4th house
      When Pluto transits the Moon or the fourth house it symbolizes a time frame in which a fundamental reformulation of the self-image and emotional responses/patterns occurs.  Most commonly, these responses are based upon the early childhood environment in which our natural needs were not meet. As a result, we may have displaced needs that are carried over into adult life. When Pluto transits the Moon/4th house is reflects a time frame in which these displaced emotions from this and many lives suddenly surface. It is important to note that it is these displaced emotions and old emotional responses that are the underlying root, or cause, of inner blocks and stagnation from an evolutionary point of view.
     When Pluto transits the fourth house it indicates a timeframe in which a deep vulnerability and sensitivity that has been suppressed for many lifetimes may surface. As described above, the Moon/4th house/Cancer archetype symbolizes the early childhood environment. As such, this can be a time frame in which unresolved emotional dynamics that stem, or are rooted, in the core themes already described suddenly reappear. Potentially, the unresolved/displaced emotions of the past can be healed gently via encouragement of internalizing emotional security and development of a positive self-image.
      In order to induce these evolutionary lessons this transit(s) is commonly reflects a time frame in which a variety of external emotional security sources are suddenly eliminated, or removed, from our lives. For example, we may suddenly have emotional conflicts/negative experiences with parental figures that have previously provided emotional security and safety. It is important to note that this may also occur with individuals who have served as a type of parental figure(s). The critical point within this is that these emotional difficulties/negative experiences are indented to promote the key evolutionary lessons already stated of minimizing emotional dependencies/expectations upon others and to internalize the emotional needs that are coming to surface.   
     
                                          Case Study
     
     As an example of the above I will use a case study. In the natal chart his Pluto is in Cancer/1st house conjunct the North Node. His Moon is in Leo/3rd house conjunct Neptune. The South Node is in Capricorn in the 7th house ruled by Saturn RX in Scorpio/5th house. Venus is in Aries/11th house squaring the nodal axis.
     When Pluto transited the Moon/Neptune in Leo/3rd house he was suddenly thrown out (excommunicated) from a spiritual community/organization which had become a type of spiritual family and refuge.  Prior to this point he had been continually sought out by others, and  also always seen in a special light.  He become a type of mentor/counselor to those in need and who then perceived him as a type of authority figure (South Node in Capricorn/7th house, ruled by Saturn In Scorpio/5th house).  However, this type of role that he was perpetually placed in and the resulting expectations that were enforced created a situation in which he could not truly embrace his emotional body/identity are reveal the depth of his emotional sensitivity/vulnerability. The Pluto/North Node conjunction in cancer/1st house  indicates that true emotional expression and relating to others free from the special role/light described above is necessary from an evolutionary point of view. Venus in Aries/11th house square the nodal axis reflects a skipped step which must be resolved in this life. Initiating relationships that are based on emotional freedom and independence is essential in this life. The South Node in Capricorn in the 7th house reflects being defined by this type of position/identity prior to the current life.
     When Pluto transited the Moon/Neptune in Leo/3rd house is served to create the necessary culmination (Neptune) of the self-image and emotional security dynamics (Moon) that were the basis of how he had been known/ seen within the spiritual organization up until that point in time. In other words, his emotional security base was removed suddenly in order to enforce the evolutionary lessons previously described. In a positive light he was able to creatively actualize his special purpose in a way that truly reflected his emotional identity and wisdom through writing books in which the depth of his emotional wisdom and knowledge could be expressed to its maximum (Moon/Neptune Leo/3rd house, Pluto/North Node in Cancer/1st house).

  Please post your questions and insights/illustrations as time allows!

  Namaste

Deva
     


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on Jul 08, 2014, 08:53 AM
                         Pluto transiting Sun/5th house

                                   Leo/5th house/Sun
     In order to gain a clear understanding of Pluto transiting the Sun and/or the 5th house we must first review the archetype of the 5th house/Leo/Sun. This archetype correlates with the need for creative self-actualization of the special purpose/destiny. This archetype reflects an awareness of a creative purpose/special destiny in life and the need to shape it out of the strength of the will. It is important to note that Aries-Leo symbolizes subjective development/focus. In this archetype, then, creative actualization is at its maximum as we become “full” of our creative potential/purpose.
     Leo/5th house/Sun correlates with the  pyramid reality structure in which our own needs are at the very top. As mentioned before, there is a strong focus on creative actualization, and this can lead an overly subjective/self-focus in life. In other words, we can develop an essentially narcissistic orientation because we are overly focused on our special/creative purpose which creates a pyramid reality structure. One potential problem that can arise is to attempt to shape and mold other’s creative process relative to their own projection of who the other is and how they should actualize their creative potential/capacities.  In a positive manifestation of this archetype those with a strong 5th house/Leo emphasis can encourage others to take control of their special destiny and shape it out of the strength of the will and will not attempt to shape or mold it themselves out of a self-centered 5th house projection/creation.
     The polarity point to Leo/5th house/Sun is Aquarius/Uranus/11th house. Evolutionary speaking, the polarity point reflects the need to detach from the pyramid reality structure via linking the special purpose to a socially relevant cause. For example, linking the creative purpose to a humanitarian need such as teaching, counseling, community service  or some form of dramatic arts are all examples of how creative purpose can be linked with a socially relevant cause. In this way, an overly subjective/self focus can be balanced/shift with a more objective/humanitarian view point.
                                          Pluto transiting Sun/5th house
     Pluto transiting the Sun/5th house signifies a time frame in which a necessary reformulation and deepening of the creative/special destiny takes place. Most commonly, stagnation and a “drying up” of creative energy/purpose is experienced in order to induce the deepening and reformulation of the creative purpose manifests. As such, it is not uncommon to experience a need to either deepen or to establish their voice within an existing creative field.  For example, this can be time in which an individual feels an increasing need to break out of the shadow/mold of an existing well known authority figure(s) in a specific field such as the psychologists Freud, Skinner, or Jung. A student who studied the psychological theories listed above and yet feels that the theories can be applied in a new/transformed way relative to a new/emerging societal need. Thus, the creative destiny is now linked with applying these theories in a way that reflects the Soul’s true creative potential and capacity.
     In addition, these transits can induce intense conflicts within relationships because of an increasing need for validation and recognition as the creative purpose deepens and is in process of metamorphosis. In other words, the need for feedback and external acknowledgment from the partner may intensify during this transit. If this need is not met it can lead to intense conflicts within an existing relationship and potentially to attractions to others who appear to offer such recognition and validation. Conflicts between parents and children can also occur as either the parent or the child does not feel validated or recognized for who they are as unique individuals.
     For example, the child may progressively resist the parent’s attempts to either mold or shape the creative purpose/which creative path to pursue. The child will naturally be seeking the validation and supportive feedback of their parent(s) as a specific creative purpose/destiny reveals or unfolds during this time period. The key point within this is that if the parent cannot objectively validate the child and instead attempts to impose his or her own notions about appropriate creative path then conflicts may ensue. Another potential conflict that can arise is if a parent has legitimate needs to actualize or establish a new or emerging creative capacity yet the child feels threatened by the perceived loss of attention/recognition. For example, it may become necessary for the parent to go back or complete schooling in order to receive a credential and may not have as such time to spend their child/children.

                                            Case Study/Example
      As mentioned above, there can be an increasing need to deepen and reformulate the pre-existing creative destiny/purpose during this transit. For example, a friend of mine who has Sun in Virgo/11th house went through a very deep reformulation of the creative purpose when Pluto was in Sagittarius in the  2nd house squaring the natal Sun. With natal Sun in Virgo/11th house he always felt that his creative purpose was fundamentally different then the majority, yet had not been able to integrate his creative capacities in a way that he felt was meaningful. As a result, he remained essentially detached from establishing/actualizing a creative destiny that reflected his unique individuality/gifts. He worked mundane jobs for many years, and when Pluto squared the Sun he experienced an intense creative stagnation and implosion. He realized that a crisis linked with connecting with higher meaning (South Node in Pisces/North Node in Virgo) and aligning with a life purpose that reflected his true capacities/gifts (Pluto in Sagittarius in the 2nd house square the Sun in Virgo/11th house) was intentional. 
     The South Node in Pisces/4th house and North Node in Virgo/10th house in relation to transiting Pluto in Sagittarius in the 2nd house squaring the Sun symbolizes that a necessary crisis and disillusionment was intended to realign him with a creative purpose/destiny that is linked with service and allows meaningful work to manifest during this time frame. He has natural creative gifts as a musician and as an artist (Moon in Leo/10th house). He made consistent and dedicated efforts to actualize these potentials and did eventually get a big break in the music scene as a member of a highly successful band. The core point within this is that the creative purpose was deepened through aligning with a meaningful form of service and life’s work that could benefit the collective/humanity as a whole.

Please post questions/illustrations as time allows.

Namaste

Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Skywalker on Aug 01, 2014, 07:19 AM
Deva,

I´m sorry I actually forgot about this thread but would like to contribute and hope others will keep it going since some people asked for it and you promptly committed to re-viving the thread.

Anyway I´d like to share some personal observations and experiences with Pluto transits to Mercury, the Moon and the Sun.


Transiting Pluto in Sagittarius in the Fifth house opposite Mercury in Gemini in the Eleventh house in the chart of a person I know well, correlated to a time frame in which she was totally obsessive about the news! To the point of sleeping with the T.V. on, waking up and turning the other T.V. in the other room on, listening to the news on the car radio on the way to work, then buying various news papers and arriving home to watch more of the news! In her own words she had the need to know what was going on in the world. This reflected the unconscious security needs connected to information and knowledge that were outdated and not serving her evolutionary growth, which she resisted letting go of as the need to know was so strong.

Transiting Pluto in the Sixth House in Capricorn on my own natal Moon was one of the most difficult experiences of my life in which I "lost" what at the time felt like half of my life. Lost my girlfriend and work at the time and everything associated with her and was close to actually losing my mental sanity. It was a purging of all my personal limitations and fears, family dynamics and personal relationships to anyone or anything that was not necessary and a limiting factor to my personal evolution. It was like descending to my own personal hell and having to climb my way out of it on my own. The nature of this transit was to eliminate all old emotional dynamics, attachments etc that were limiting my personal growth and basically helped me learn to be much more responsible for myself.

When Pluto conjuncted my Sun in the Fifth house at the very end of Scorpio, I had a major change in my life as a teenager and went to live with my father,  who lived on another continent. The radical change was extremely painful and difficult but at the same time was a very empowering time as I developed the desire to get into music and my father supported me with whatever I needed. I felt like learning to let go of whatever was necessary was part of the growing process. I ended up by developing my creative abilities and started a new cycle of creative expression thru music and was also much better off financially as I had a lot of support. So the Pluto transit to the Sun in my case was difficult because I had to let go of many things/people in my life but at the same time it helped me develop my creative abilities and empower me  for the next phase in my evolutionary journey. This phase was totally about music, expression, love and romance and many of the Fifth house archetypal dynamics.

Thank you

All the best


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on Aug 06, 2014, 10:58 AM
Hi, Skywalker. Thanks so much for posting your insights and personal experiences with transits! I appreciate the group's participation as well.  If there is interest in keeping this thread please let me know and we will continue.

Namaste

Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Upasika on Aug 06, 2014, 03:41 PM
Hi Deva,

I am very interested - transits mirror the timing of when our inbuilt karmic lessons will become active in our life, and so often correspond with the unfolding of our inner selves in the world. But we don't have much at all on the MB about these major powerful influences.

My participation will be pretty limited as I'm still very much recovering from surgery, and typing more than a little is often beyond me at the moment (although I'll do what I can), but I'll definitely be reading along for sure. In another month or two I should be fitter and stronger though, so I hope the thread is still going then. I do have the last Darwin assignment to do as well but I hope to participate in this topic too.

blessings Upasika


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: nemodomi on Aug 06, 2014, 04:01 PM
Hi Deva,

I know I haven't contributed anything to this thread, but I'd love for it to continue -- not only for the specific highly informative content, but also for the way in which it helps me to tune my thinking toward the philosophical underpinnings, and workings, of Evolutionary Astrology.

Thank you,

Ken


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Emily on Aug 11, 2014, 05:57 AM
Hi Deva,

This is a personal reflection on Pluto transiting the Sun. Pluto is currently on my Sun in Capricorn in the 6th house (natal Pluto Libra 4th). Pluto is also currently trine Jupiter(ruler of the 6th) and Mars(ruler of the 10th) in Virgo in the 3rd.

I have been a student of various natural healing methods for a long time but was working a mundane day job, that was very physically tiring, to pay my bills. I was at this job until just before the first Pluto/Sun transit this January. I had been working towards doing more meaningful work in the world for a long time but been very afraid of leaving a steady paycheck and doing my own thing, taking on that responsibility, etc. Feeling the pressure building within myself and seeing the transit coming, along with great support from others, I left the less meaningful job two weeks before the transit and have been immersed in starting my own practice since that time.

Being in the transit still, I don't have benefit of hindsight. But I am much happier and am experiencing growth through the circumstances I now find myself in. Knowing the transit was coming was really encouraging and helped me make this huge shift in my life even though I felt fear and insecurity. I definitely feel the intent of this transit is about maturation, actualizing my purpose and being of service in the ways I am meant to be. I also can relate to the feeling of needing a lot of validation at this point.

Blessings,
Emily


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on Aug 12, 2014, 09:06 AM
Hi, Emily. Thanks for posting your example/personal reflections about transits. Deepening of the the creative purpose via accepting responsibility for a healing practice that serves the greater good/whole is reflected in the Pluto transit to your Sun in Capricorn in the 6th house. In addition, overcoming self-doubt relative to expressing your natural voice of authority within this healing field is indicated as well. Discerning "right work" and actualizing it through self-determination and discipline will lead a re-birth and transmutation of the  creative purpose that is linked with your true capacity in a healing profession. It can lead to a meaningful career in the long run.
Pluto transiting the 6th house will induce deep levels of self-analysis in the context of what inner adjustments need to be made in order to allow the new healing capacities to manifest through a new career/job. It is a natural time period to experience self-doubt/inner lack and to purify/purge it through self-affirmations and through the new field of work that you are committed towards establishing at this time. In other words, don't fall into a negative pattern of self-defeat if an intensification of inner lack/doubt is coming to surface! If additional training or new techniques are needed in order to enhance/actualize the work these are additional vehicles through which self-doubt can be purified/purged. Please feel free to post any more insights or questions about transits!

Namaste

Deva





Namaste

Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Emily on Aug 15, 2014, 04:48 PM
Hi Deva,

Thank you so much for your response. Its really helpful.

-Emily


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Skywalker on Aug 16, 2014, 04:57 AM
Hi Emily,

Since you are undergoing a similar transit to mine with Pluto in the Sixth house, I´d like to remind you that Pluto transiting the Sixth house is also about self healing. For me it has been about going very deep into my own emotional blockages in order to purge them. With Pluto in the Sixth house in Capricorn it can also be about healing wounds relative to patriarchal conditioning that are operating at a subconscious level.

These wounds can translate into subconscious fears that create blocks in the Root Chakra that then take a toll on the physical body, in the structure of the body and bones, teeth and skin to name a few areas of the body that may need healing. With Pluto in the Sixth house and for as long as it will be there, there will be the desire and need (Pluto) to eliminate all sorts habits that are detrimental to one´s health. In Capricorn, again, many of these habits/wounds will stem from past patriarchal conditioning/suppression that we have accepted as our reality.

Good luck with your healing, the more you heal the better you can serve the whole.

All the best


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Emily on Aug 18, 2014, 06:21 PM
Hi Skywalker,

Thank you for you sharing this. It resonates deeply. Health and healing on many levels have been a strong focus throughout the Pluto in the 6th transit for me. Especially taking responsibility for my own health and experiencing empowerment through that.

Blessings,
Emily



Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Upasika on Aug 28, 2014, 01:54 AM
Hi Deva,

I have a question for you.
What is your take on these two different but related transiting events?

1. The transiting Nodal axis squares a natal planet, producing a temporary "skipped step signature"

2. A transiting planet moves into a square to the natal nodal axis, also producing a temporary "skipped step signature"

Any comment/explanation you may have would be very appreciated.

blessings Upasika


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on Aug 28, 2014, 10:12 AM
 Hi, Upasika. Thanks for posting this question! My understanding/interpretation of these two similar/different events is:

1) If a planet forms a square to the natal nodal axis it reflects that the specific planetary function (by house and sign locality) will act/serve as a skipped step for the duration of that transit in the context of the current evolutionary/karmic intentions symbolized by the natal South and North Nodes.
    For example, when Jupiter was in Aries/in my 11th house (which is also the polarity point of my natal Pluto) squaring my natal axis of South Node in cap/8th house and North Node in cancer/2nd house I experienced a transiting skipped step in the context of the need to assert/develop autonomy and independence and express my unique individuality in regards to new teachings I had learned (Jupiter in Aries/11th house) that facilitated the need to become inwardly secure and self-reliant (North Node in Cancer/2nd house) and how it conflicted with my existing obligations and responsibilities at an existing university (South Node in cap/8th house) which did not allow the new teachings I had learned to be assimilated/taught in an independent manner. The key point within this is that I needed to adjust my interpretation (Jupiter) of my personal experience at that time and to be willing to break free from my existing obligations/responsibilities in order to peruse a new path that was in alignment with the teachings that promoted the ability to become inwardly secure, self-reliant, and reflected the development of my new identity in this context.  Again, the skipped step was regarding my own interpretation/teachings that were assimilated and my ability to develop a life path that reflects my natural truth/voice independent from previous social conditioning/man made teachings I had absorbed from the evolutionary past (Transiting Jupiter in Aries/11th house squaring natal South Node in cap/8th house, North Node in Cancer/2nd house).

2) If the transiting nodal axis is square a natal planet the specific dynamics symbolized by the nodal axis (by house and sign locality) then the current dynamics that are linked with the transition from past (transiting South Node) to future ( transiting North Node) act/serve as a skipped step in terms of the natal squaring planet. In other words, the transiting nodal axis symbolizes where our past meets our future, so to speak, and that those specific dynamics are now acting as skipped steps in the context of the natal planet. Again the transiting nodes symbolize the evolutionary movement/integration from past to future in the current time while the natal nodal axis reflects the ongoing transition from the evolutionary past to future throughout the life. 

Hope this helps clarify your question and please feel free to post any questions/personal insight as well!

Namaste

Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Upasika on Aug 31, 2014, 07:00 AM
Hi Deva,

That was a very interesting example and great to learn from, thank you. I've outlined this again in my own words to confirm my understanding is correct.

I understand that the transiting planet (Jupiter/Aries/11th) squaring your natal nodal axis was causing difficulty. It was doing this because it was triggering issues to do with itself in the temporary resolution node - in this case your south node (Cap/8th).

The central issue to the difficulty -caused by the transiting planet- was unearthed at the temporary resolution node (your south node). Issues intrinsic to the transiting planet that were already existing within (yet up to that point lying dormant in) that temporary resolution node, in some shape or form. Pre-existing issues inherent in that node that you hadn't got around to dealing with prior to that, or not completely anyway.

As you have said those issues were a mix of autonomy & independence (Aries), expression of your uniqueness (11th) regarding new knowledge you had imbibed (Jupiter). These issues from the transiting location (Jup/Ar/11th) were reflected in your resolution node i.e. in your commitments (8th) to your existing obligations and responsibilities (Cap) at a university (Jupiter - classic isn't it!) .... the symbolism couldn't be clearer. These issues all stemmed from your past, as the resolution node for this temporary skipped step was the south node (the past). With the resolution needing to happen during the period of the transit.

The reolution in regard to these issues at that node occurred through ... the experience (the house, 11th in your case) of the skipped step planet (Jup/Aries) being a challenge (square) to the issues. This challenge was to let the skipped step planet influence in, to include it:  in your case to include increased clarity, 11th,and feeling more inspired & independent (Aries) regarding knowledge and how you were approaching/applying it (Jup) .

Including this transiting planet experience meant adjusting your personal experience of the issues into one that was more objective, 11th house. And as I understand it this seemed to be the thing that brought about seeing your current commitments (8th) more in terms of your present situation rather than according to some past (south node) reality  - either yours or someone else's. And therefore helping you to break free.

When there are no natal skipped steps generally there is a natural nodal movement to the north node (in your case though you possibly have a natal skipped step, but it's resolution node is also the north node anyway). In these cases I can see how a temporary skipped step can be a powerful evolutionary boost, the impetus for a greater and enhanced embrace of the north node - in your case probably bringing renewed and deepened inner security (Cancer) and self reliance (2nd).

Also very interesting Deva is that the temporary skipped step occurred at your PPP. Any activity happening in the location of the PPP has a strong and far reaching impact. That was no run of the mill passing skipped step ... did you feel you were being picked up by a huge wave and carried into a new space?

******

I have both examples coming up, none anywhere as dramatic as this, but I'll observe them and see what I notice, and get back. Thank you.

blessings Upasika




Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Deva on Sep 01, 2014, 10:14 AM
Hi, Upasika. Thanks for posting your insights! Yes, your understanding is correct. I wanted to add for sake of clarification that the intensity of the transit is also due to transiting Pluto conjunct the South Node in Capricorn in the 8th and a first Saturn return. Yes, I did feel that a big wave was overhead and carried into a new space during this time! There are no natal skipped steps in my chart but relative to the transits at that time deep evolutionary lessons where being enforced and revisited.

Ultimately it lead to a lot of personal growth via a ongoing liberation and breaking free process. There was a new found strength and courage to establish a life path I felt most connect/aligned with at Soul/heart level (felt inspired and guided towards as you accurately mentioned).

Namaste

Deva


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Linda on Sep 02, 2014, 03:14 PM
Hi Deva,

Could you please help explain how to incorporate the EA understanding/interpretation of the upcoming Moon Phases.

Please see New Topic entitled, "Moon Phases."

Thanks so much.

Love,

Linda


Title: Re: Transits
Post by: Upasika on Sep 03, 2014, 12:49 AM
Hi Deva,

Thanks for mentioning that, those other transits do add to the impact of the temporary skipped step!

blessings Upasika