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Title: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Mar 17, 2012, 08:19 AM
Hi All,

We are going to start a new thread this will be based various EA topics that JWG taught but were never published. Much of this will be based on his old message board that were categorized into subjects/ topics through the kindness and desire of Adina Mather. This will also include various subjects that were lectures that JWG gave that were transcribed. We are doing this in the spirit of continuing of desiring to spread the teachings of Evolutionary Astrology as far and wide as we can. All of this material is of course copyrighted but we have been given the permission of JWG'S daughter, Deva Green, to publish it on our message board. Much of this material is quite lengthy so, given the confines of our message board, it will be posted in segments until the end of each subject/topic is arrived at. At that point we will begin anew with another subject/topic.

Our first subject will be the natural evolution that takes place within the natural zodiac: from 0 to 360 degrees, and the 8 primary sub-cycles that take place within it called Phases. This will include the various aspects that take place with these Phases. And this will include what JWG called 'key planetary pairs' that operate archetypically within our consciousness.

As you read through this feel free to ask any questions that you may have.

God Bless, Rad

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Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
      Jeffrey Wolf Green Astrology et Al
       July 15 through August 19, 1987


Aspects need to be looked at in context - for example, you can have four kinds of possible squares, but very few of the traditional books teach this. Aspects need to be looked at with respect to the phase relationship in which you find them. In my Pluto book the phases are intertwined in the interpretation of the aspects which are looked at from an evolutionary point of view, but they are not identified as such.

The essence of astrology is a circle from 0 to 360 degrees. A basic way of looking at life is a circle or cycle. This simplistic mathematical model provides a way for astrologers to look at interpretation. There are a number of ways to divide this up depending upon the number quotients used to divide it.    Using the number 6 or 12 or 3 or 9, you can create different answers with respect to the division. Houses are, for instance, a relatively new phenomena and not part of origin of astrology per se. An excellent book on the history of astrology is called "The Origin of the Zodiac" by a man named Gleadow. Excellent.

For the purposes of aspects, we use the number 8, i.e. the lunation cycle. This will give us two quadrants in the first half and two in the second half. If we move in a clockwise direction, we come over to 360 degrees. Each phase equals 45 degrees. (The Chaldean Zodiac is based on 28 days, or a lunation cycle, and is more complex; we are going to use a simpler method and learn 8 phases rather than 28.)

The mathematical number which represents the distance between two planets represents the phasal relationship between those two planets. The phase determines how the relationship manifests; the aspect accentuates the phase. Since the zodiac correlates to what you call human consciousness projected into space, inner space and apparent outer space, the point is that consciousness is inclusive. Relative to its inclusion, it is exclusive, i.e. that which it cannot be. The phases correlate to the various dynamics within that consciousness and how it develops and evolves through time relative to what it can be vs. what it cannot be. Aspects mark key turning points in that evolutionary development or journey. Look upon them as turnstiles, if you will. Like revolving doors. The aspect moves you from one developmental stage to another in an accelerated fashion. Looking at this revolving door, the space on either side of it is relatively calm in comparison to the revolving door. One goes from a relatively calm and developed space to another space which is trying to be developed. The tension between past and future is the aspect. The metaphor includes the possibility of being caught in that revolving door and going backwards or getting caught in it - then they come here, Each aspect is going to have a certain RPM, if you will, or a certain rate of spin that is different than another aspect.

In this class we will first talk about phases, then aspect, then key planetary pairings which are key archetypes in all human consciousness. For example, the Mars/Venus pair represents how we complete ourselves in relationships - that is a primary archetype in all human beings. Then we will discuss key aspect patterns, T-squares, grand trines, etc.. Eventually you will be able to handle contradictory situations such as a grand trine which is also involved with a T-square.

                                                      NEW PHASE

We will always talk about polarities, yin/yang, light/dark, male/female, because to understand any one phase, you have to understand its opposite - its natural polarity. For example, to truly understand Virgo, you have to understand Pisces; to truly understand Capricorn, you have to understand Cancer, etc.

For example, most people think of Capricorn as crystallized in space, i.e. somehow without emotion relative to how Capricorn naturally projects itself. But, of course, underneath that Capricorn and the very basis of how it projects itself is Cancer. The essence of vulnerability. Why do you think Virgo needs crisis? Look at the polarity of Pisces. Virgo is going for a kind of reality that is not possible on earth - thus, crisis. In most cases, astrology is not taught this way, but it is very basic.

So, in order to understand new phase, we have to understand full phase. The new phase is, of itself, just that new. The key word is instinctual. Instinct is without forethought, a feeling or inclination (it is not intuition, however), automatic reaction. Instinct is simply action without thought. So the instinct, in the new phase, correlates to the instinct to become. Is not life itself a continuous state of becoming? Becoming what? That which it is not. The instinct to become that which one is not equals action without forethought - the simple, instinctual urge to initiate action relative to one's need to become that which you individually are. Thus, the simple instinctual need to initiate action and through the inevitable reaction to the action, one develops knowledge. Does the baby know that the stove is hot before it touches it? It must create action in order to experience reaction, then it knows. Thus the knowledge that is gained in the new phase is determined through reaction to the action.

If we understand the nature of the circle from an evolutionary point of view because the phenomena of life and time and space evolves, it is not static, thank God, the new phase then means that any two planets in a new phase are embarking upon a new cycle of evolutionary development, that which has not come before. This implies that prior to this life a cycle has just ended that has been in place for beaucoup lifetimes. It is a brand new phenomena. There is not any conceptual superstructure to explain the reasons or whys behind the instinct to become. It does not have the conceptual equipment to explain why it wants to do what it wants to do. Thus, it needs independence and freedom to simply initiate whatever experiences are deemed necessary in order to discover the ongoing process of becoming through the reactions to the initiated experiences.

However when we understand the full phase, its natural polarity, the key word for the full phase is completion. What is completed in the full phase is the evolutionary journey from the new phase through the crescent phase through the first quarter phase through the gibbous phase. Any two planets you find in a full phase relationship, evolutionary speaking, prior to this life, have already come through these phases. Thus as the new phase planets and the individual who has these planets in this state interacts with life itself, it is instinctually and inherently going to be aware of other individuals, full phase, who have more of a conceptual ability to explain who and what they are and why they are there, why they are going to do what they are going to do, or what they have done. Through the natural temptation of this polarity to compare (the new phase is without conceptual ability to do so), there is going to be some degree of instinctual temptation to adopt the beliefs and/or value systems which are the basis of explanations in all people, in order to explain its own actions and thus be out of harmony with that inherent and emerging individuality implied in this new phase.

What commonly happens in this new phase/full phase phenomena is that the person fluctuates in extreme behavioral patterns - from one extreme of wanting to be absolutely alone and free to the cyclic need to be overly engaged or involved in a relationship with people who seem to reflect what the individual is trying to become. This creates two very deep alternating behavioral patterns which seem apparently inconsistent.

What this really touches upon is the nature of creation, the projection through time/ space - the need to become what? If the creator was perfect in the beginning why create anything? The implication is that the creator was, in the beginning, imperfect. The instinctual energy is related to that separating desire and the need to go back to God. If we agree that creation and its distinct forms did not create itself, then what created it? And if that which is called the creation point, the source, the uncreated created in Buddhist terms, and we observe things like imperfection - wherein lies the origin of imperfection? The inherent truth is in every part of creation, every molecule, every cell, every substance, every particle - so the instinct to become ultimately correlates to the creation projected, projection being an inherently masculine principle and contraction or reception being an inherent feminine principle.

So, in these two distinct phases, a mirror of this basic truth: On the one hand needing to act and in the process of acting in an environmental sense instinctually comparing relative to full phase other individuals to itself creating retreat.

Astrology of itself is nothing. There is no inherent meaning to Venus. It is just a chunk of matter in space. It is what we project onto it through correlations and observations that create the meanings.

In the handout, the aspects which are shown are described from an evolutionary point of view from 0 to 360 degrees.

Phases are determined by measuring the distance in degrees from the slower moving planet counterclockwise to the faster moving planet. Any two planets who are 45 degree or less arc in the new phase; any two planets who are from 45 to 90 degrees are in crescent phase, etc. The Sun is always considered the stationary point. The Nodes are also used and because they fluctuate, one needs to look in the ephemeris and determine which is slower, the planet or the node.

Let's take an example: Mercury conjunct Jupiter in Scorpio in the new phase. Would this not correlate to unformulated thought processes and/or belief systems coming into this life because the intent is to establish utterly new ones, that which has not come before? Would this not then demand a freedom of action to determine what my beliefs and/or thoughts are going to be through my actual experiences? Would it not tend to imply that my thoughts and/or beliefs would tend to grow and would not want to be static even though the fixed component of Scorpio would tend to want to make it so? Because we have two competing archetypes- fixed relative to new phase, would it not tend suggest that I would come up with philosophical or intellectual systems that worked in my life for a time, fixed, only to become stagnated or outmoded, Scorpio which would then generate the need generate even more experiences, new phase, to evolve them? Would this not also suggest, with respect to full phase polarity, that at various points in my life I might become hypnotically, Scorpio, attracted to individuals, full phase, who represented or symbolized to me, Scorpio, a more well-thought out and formulated conceptual, abstract, intellectual system and feel the temptation, Scorpio, to adopt, full phase, such systems? Yet, because they were not systems that were inwardly realized or developed by me through my own actions and as I attempt to deliver such thoughts or beliefs to another, thoughts or beliefs that were not developed through my own experience, would this not tend to promote for me, Scorpio, confrontations with individuals that could out-argue me because they could see that what I was saying was not based on actual experience? Would this not have the effect of creating the opposite behavior, Scorpio now saying .... we will not use those words, but retreating into a stance of isolation, through a vindictive, instinctual response. For a time, I would feel quite righteous in my vindictive response and now I would instinctually console myself.

One the other hand, as the individual is loyal, to itself, i.e. new phase, then as it simply instinctually communicated, Mercury/Jupiter/new phase, what came to it as it occurred without forethought, would that which was being communicated not have a spellbinding, mesmerizing, Scorpio, impact on the listener? What is now being instinctually communicated is new and that which is new is going. to be challenging that which is not new, i.e. other people's prevailing opinions, i.e. Mercury/Jupiter. That itself could create a defensive response.

What we want to keep in mind here is that the new phase evolves through time. This is now how we start measuring aspects. If you have two planets in a semi-sextile relationship, 30 degrees, yet still in the new phase, this symbolism clearly suggests that the individual, prior to this life, has already had a couple of experiences - maybe a couple of lives, who knows - involving this new phase process. In other words it is not utterly new. Because it suggests that there has been something before, the semi-sextile tends to have the effect of checking the pure instinctual process of the new phase. Prior to the semi-sextile, there is the instinct for unchecked action, random-like, but through a process of action/reaction prior to this life, the individual has already begun to become somewhat aware instinctually, of course, but aware of what this new purpose is evolutionarily speaking and thus the knowledge implied allows the semi-sextile to have a checking action or narrowing of experience. There is still the need to initiate action. There is still the action/reaction process. There is still much which is unformulated and yet the person has more of a sense of undefined direction, i.e. to narrow the randomness. The person may have unconscious memories of coming through the conjunction because in any life 80% of your thoughts, beliefs, values, interpretation and perception patterns, self-relatedness patterns are determined by subconscious memories. This is itself, based on that which has come before. The memory is in the Soul and is the sum-total of all that which has come before.

If I have had two planets in a new phase condition prior to this life and I now find them in a semi-sextile relationship, this constitutes subconscious memories. This, of itself, narrows the experience field , not happily so, however because new phase wants to be instinctive. So the tension of the semi-sextile is a tension based on feeling checked or constrained. It is the tension, for example, between Aries/Taurus. That is a natural semi-sextile and I think most of us would agree that Aries of itself wants absolute freedom and the instinct in Taurus is to consolidate. This new phase condition creates an irritant. It is like the competing archetypes of water/fire. Water tends to have the effect of dampening the spirit of fire.

So the semi-sextile is going to narrow, to focus, to stabilize and to begin the process of forethought prior to action. This is going to have a natural polarization in the full phase inconjunct. One of the meanings of the full phase inconjunct is to understand the meaning of the personal limitations as measured against the social environment. What you can and cannot be, what you can and cannot become, what you are and are not. This can correlate to a social function. You can see how this is mirrored in this new phase semi-sextile. It is the very first aspect to begin the checking of excessively willful egocentric expression - to begin the initial experience and, yes, humiliation, of limitation. When a baby is born, it knows no limitations, it demands all. The biological instinct in the parents is to provide all - it is utterly catered to. However, there does come a time in which that baby learns, semi-sextile, new phase.

Traditional books do not tell you the phase and a new phase semi-sextile is utterly different from a balsamic phase semi-sextile and how it manifests is determined by context.

If we go back to the new phase conjunction, we can have two planets that are absolutely conjunct or that have 10 degrees of separation. From a purely evolutionary point of view, these two are different from each other. We have evolved and there is a subtle difference.

The number of degrees of separation from the absolute conjunction represents relative evolution of the principle. Once one has been through something, one gets used to it and begins to know how to respond to it.

For example, I have Mars at 0 degree Aries and Venus at 10 degrees Aries, as compared with Venus at 2 degrees Aries. The former is more evolved than the latter. Anything that came before that conjunction is a balsamic conjunction, not a new phase conjunction in the final stages of wrapping up countless lifetimes, having come through all of the phases and is balsamic and almost done. It is possible for a person to have both of these in one lifetime and that can be measured through progression. Sometimes, when you see a stellium, five or six planets in the same sign, there is going to be a mixture in most cases of new phase and balsamic conjunctions. That is the real way to understand the nature of a stellium and why a person would have that amount of energy in one sign.

This situation could also generate frustration. As one evolves in this life, one may become aware of a new way, and yet relative to the evolutionary necessity, of culminating that which has been. This is the common problem of the poet: How many truly understand the spirit of what the poet is trying to say?

The progressions measure the evolution of the natal imprint. We evolve. We all have Aries, an ascendant and a Mars function. These operate in all of our lives, no matter what is going on in the phases and aspects. This is an inherent dynamic in our consciousness that evolves and that natural principle is reflected through the Arian archetype that is in every chart in all cases.

The Novile is actually a very interesting aspect evolutionary speaking. Some people claim that the novile is such a high octave aspect, that unless the person is sufficiently spiritually evolved, they cannot develop it. If this were true, why have it? Since in the west, dreams are somehow not linked with consciousness, it is important to know that dreams are conscious, not unconscious. Even a dream that you cannot remember, you know that you have had it and been conscious during it because you feel the effect.

So, my bias tells me that Noviles work for everyone. The key dynamic in a Novile is gestation and it is this dynamic that tempts some people to argue for an essentially unconscious process, or, in other cases, you have to be highly evolved to be aware of it. Even for those in a consensus state, it is conscious. It can be something as simple as a twinge. Let's say that in contemplating two or three equally valid courses of action, one feels a twinge - that is the Novile working. This will somehow orient the person to the proper experience. At the point of the Novile the person is more accepting of the dynamics with respect to resignation.

As we evolve through the new phase there is more strength and courage gained to be that which you are or are becoming, to resist the full phase temptations which is experienced at its maximum in the semi-square which becomes a mutational aspect from new phase to crescent phase. This turnstile equals mutation from one orientation to a radically different orientation.

The houses and signs in which you find planets in phase to each other tell you the kinds of experiences, inner and outer, that the person will gravitate to in order to fulfill the intent of the phase.

The idea of phases and cycles is as ancient as astrology itself, back to Babylonian times. It was Dane Rudhyar who resurrected the idea in modern astrology.

Mercury and Venus never venture very far from the Sun and therefore do not go around the full circle, but within the balsamic and new phase relationships, there are degree relationships to which you can apply the evolutionary view.

In a Mercury/Sun phase, you are dealing with the Mercury function as it is applied to the Sun and Mercury means the ideas that we use to justify what we are doing at any level at which we participate. So it is either time to let go of some ideas or time to make new ones. Similarly with the Venus function. Here it can be as much as 48 degrees apart, the early part of crescent or the last part of last quarter. This concept is applied to planets only.






Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Elen on Mar 17, 2012, 05:59 PM
Hi Rad,

I just wanted to express my thanks for this thread.  I will be following!


Elen


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: mirta on Mar 18, 2012, 06:49 AM
Hi Rad,
I am too attentively following this thread. Thanks so much for your generosity and dedication
God Bless
Mirta


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Mar 18, 2012, 07:32 AM
continuing.........

                                                 CRESCENT PHASE

We will define the crescent phase before we talk about the semi-square and talk about it in terms of its polarity, the disseminating phase.

The key word for crescent phase is struggle. It is an inherently yin phase, whereas the new phase is inherently yang. Yang meaning energy moving out from center, projecting, and Yin meaning energy moving back to center, or retreating. In the crescent phase, energy is returning to center. If the energy was left unchecked in the new phase, it would simply blow out into space and in an utterly disintegrated fashion. Keep in mind that the essence of the new phase is a brand new evolutionary cycle which demanded the initiation of experience to create reaction which then determines knowledge. In the new phase, the actions are relatively random, although the various aspects promote a narrowing of experience. By the time the crescent phase happens, it is now time to withdraw from the excessive initiation of experience in order to consolidate and stabilize that which has been realized via the new phase, to establish it, to make it concrete, real, to give it roots. By giving it roots, allowing it to grow; yet still reflecting however the individuality of the new cycle, new phase. It is a struggle in that the polarity phase is disseminating, and the disseminating phase, of itself, is the totality of society - everything that your culture or society is, is reflected in the disseminating phase, thus "status quo". So, what is the struggle? The struggle is to establish in a concrete way individuality as discovered in the new phase as contrasted with the status quo. Because this is still a relatively new development, the individual is still shaky, still not quite certain, still comparing relative to the disseminating phase and thus the temptation to borrow and become a vicarious extension of ideas or values or lifestyles or external authority figures that tend to symbolize what the individual senses itself to be, without doing the necessary work to establish that on its own terms.

Let's say we have Mercury and Jupiter in Crescent phase and this individual is drawn to be a lawyer. The crescent phase in this case would be the need to establish its own unique way of communicating its own ideas relative to its inherent philosophical beliefs. Yet, relative to the disseminating phase, the temptation would be to compare itself with the established external authority figures in a cultural context and to borrow their way of presenting themselves, their way of communicating. Because it is a yin phase, there is a natural temptation to withdraw from conflict or confrontation. This makes its own kind of struggle.

Let's say we have Venus and Mars in the crescent phase. This is an individual who is meant to struggle to establish its own individual way of being in a relationship. Yet, if the polarity phase is disseminating, we have all kinds of cultural possibilities. It is tempting to just select one and decide that that is more reflective of what I am trying to do.

Planets in a disseminating phase with each other would give you an idea of what the pull away from the crescent phase is all about.

Another form of the struggle is when the individual does “x” amount of work on herself to determine who she is, her individuality, and just trying to maintain that without doing additional work. She reaches a degree of comfortability and says, "Ah, that's it! I'm fine now." without continuing the struggle of further development.

So, what is required in this phase to actualize it - remember last week we showed the relationship between new phase and full phase entering into a relationship and withdrawing and is the need to participate in the world and the need to withdraw from it. Isolation and periodic participation. The isolation is a way of reaffirming or reestablishing what one is, and thus, over time, progressively asserting through establishment of itself in society, its individuality in society.

So, we run into the semi-square and relative to orb issues we can have a new phase semi-square and a crescent phase semi-square. The new phase semi-square suggests that that person is in a relatively new state, new in the sense of moving into the crescent phase and there is a tremendous conflict, or stress, semi-square. The habit pattern of the Soul is to experience non-restriction, to have energy moving out from center, to just be and to do and to act without restriction. The crescent phase which is now looming on the individual's horizon is saying, "Stop! Slow Down! Consolidate! Go within." It is reversing the very flow of what it is used to doing. This creates conflict for this person. Behavioral patterns of coming and going, situations of being out of harmony with oneself until it is brought under control are going to be prevalent. Happily, the semi-square does emphasize and intensify the creative energy to actualize individuality. The semi-square in the new phase will not accept any external authority model which is attempting to determine what it is meant to be. Happily, it will put its middle finger in the air.

So you can determine the degree of struggle relative to the orb issue, by how new or old the aspect is.

The polarity aspect is the 135 degree sesquiquad. The waning sesquiquad, relative to the disseminating pull, means that the individual now has a vision of its social purpose. The conflict is how to integrate it and here is the challenge, on society's terms. Until that is realized, the society perceives that individual as a threat to its own existence. So, with respect to this polarity, the individual can expect conflict, stress, confrontation from external circumstances that itself is creating and the intent of these confrontations and conflicts is to reaffirm the essential individuality with respect to the middle fingers in the air.

With respect to the crescent phase, we still have Soul whose experience is to not feel restriction, and yet these restrictions have been encountered prior to this life and thus the individual has already begun the psychological battle and process of resolving itself, resigning itself to such restrictions. This means then, that in the actual crescent state that that conflict will not be as intense as it will be in the new phase semi-square.

The exact 45 degrees is very intense because one is right on the fulcrum between the two. But, when it is actually in the crescent phase, the person has already succeeded in dealing with it. Until they have succeeded in dealing with it, you won’t find that aspect. Also, of course, the crescent phase semi-square does give the individual the continuing power to establish its individuality, to root it. In the very nature of a stressful mathematical equation, semi-square, is a tendency to creatively induce stress, that stress equaling Soul development, personality, emotional, intellectual development - these developments equaling individuality, not status quo.

In the semi-square, there are memories of a cycle that preceded this life and before that the cycle that had come before the new phase conjunction, there are still sub-conscious memories of balsamic conditions. The fear that manifests in these two phases and particularly in this aspect is being trapped by a past that it cannot even conceptualize - an irrational fear. But that fear itself is used to further develop the individuality because of the determination not to be trapped by it.

The Septile. Now the sense of individuality which has been initially established in the new phase, by the time it gets to the Septile, it is linked with a conceptual sense or an instinctual sense, depending upon the planets, of a special destiny, something out of the ordinary. This aspect has been called an aspect of "fate". This is actually true, but let’s agree on what we mean by "fate" first.

What is fate? "A fickle finger.” Fate is simply an event that is determined to happen, no matter what you do. Fate is usually a rather meaningful event in your life. Twenty percent of anybody's life is fated. Eighty percent is free choice. We all have fated events. Fate is normally linked with karmic consequence. (This is not a sacrifice. On a developmental basis, one of the main things with inconjuncts is the lesson of humility and this tends to imply sacrifice.)

A Septile means that the Soul makes a program wherein throughout its life there will be, on a cyclic basis, the famous "y" in the road, and at key points in one's life, fate prevails, meaning that circumstances will be manifested in which the very nature of the circumstances point out the right direction to go.

The value of understanding the fated quality of this aspect would be that when you see a transiting planet affecting either one of these planets, you can expect something. In an opposition, the fated event that pointed to the turn in the road tends to oppose what the person thought was going to happen.. Normally what happens is that the opposing force is stronger than the will of the individual so they tend, relative to fate, to take the right direction even though it opposes what they thought they wanted. Karma is different. When those karmic debts and/or fruitions come due, that equals a fated event.

I use a 2 degree orb for a septile. One degree on either side. It doesn't demand a transit to activate it. Transits will always activate it, but it doesn't need a transit to activate it.

A classic example is myself. I have a Uranus/North Node in a waning Septile to my natal Pluto and it is now in a last quarter phase. I had a very dim view of astrology, Uranus. At a key point in time, in a monastery, I was given a certain kind of message that revealed my long term future in astrology, like it or not. You don't have to like your destiny; it is a matter of cooperating with it, with any of it.

Now we move into a crescent phase Sextile. I use a 4-1/2 to 5 degree maximum orb. It can be extremely helpful because it is non-stressful. It is very helpful from an evolutionary point of view to integrate all that which has come before, i.e. from the new phase conjunction in this life and to permanently establish roots as to what the individual purpose was, already previously linked with special destiny in this life. Relative to orbal issues, a person is given many lives to get this done. The temptation continues, the disseminating phase is ever on the horizon because the sextile does not, of itself, have creative stress and thus, it can be very "easy" to resist, especially in a yin phase, the actual establishment. This is why there is a larger orb involved, because one is given normally quite a few lifetimes to get it done, and it must be done before the quintile can be experienced, the keywords of which will be creative transformation. The teaching in this aspect is to learn how the world works, disseminating, which can be easily grasped, sextile, and then to go ahead and integrate what one's individual purpose is linked with the two planets on the individual's own terms. That is where the conflict lies, the temptation to do it on society's terms.

Neptune in this aspect can mean that it can be easy for the person to resist the spiritualizing influence of Neptune. It means that people can take existing cultural forms and try to find their spirituality through that. That is one of the reasons that a while ago all the traditional religions were rejected in a large en masse way. One the other hand, it is just as responsible for all this modern stuff, channeling and so forth, the advent of so many " psychics".

Astronomers are now beginning to agree that Pluto was originally a Moon of Neptune, but that it has now become a binary system in its own right. So with respect to Christian symbolism, the original sin, or in chauvinistic terms, man being cast out from God, here we have this symbolism of Pluto being thrown out from Neptune which could correlate to the ultimate archetype of divinity or the absolute. Pluto does have this binary system, that does correlate to the dual desire principle and the evolution of the Soul. What it means in the beginning, of course, is that what is called God is imperfect. If God was perfect in the beginning, why create anything? The Hindus like to dismiss this as God's amusement. I think God needs more than simple amusement. If it was only for amusement, why create suffering?

Now we move to the Quintile. Creative Transformation. For example, Carl Jung. If you look at his overall birth pattern, it is called a quintile chart, a five-pointed star pattern. He took the existing psychology, Freudian, and creatively transformed it, Jungian. That is what this aspect wants to do. When you find it in the crescent phase, of course, it can be a struggle to establish it basically an inability to believe in it because it is so new. The person is still comparing and contrasting this new vision with the status quo. Don't you think that in Jung's life he met with some status quo conflict with his ideas? If you find yourself an artist and you find this aspect, you will find your creations to be utterly unique.

Frank Lloyd Wright and Velokovsky (sp?) both were not easily accepted in their times. Velokovsky was not accepted by the scientific community, and his books were not allowed in the universities. One of his ideas was that Venus was originally a part of Jupiter that was cast into space through a massive collision. Based on this ideal he predicted the atmosphere that should be discovered on Venus and his idea was right, but at that point in time it was in direct contrast with what the scientists said was on Venus.

Einstein said that you have violent opposition when genius interfaces with mediocrity.

This is not an uncommon aspect, but a lot of astrologers do not pay attention to it. For those who want to develop it, it can be a source of great enthusiasm about life, feeling good about things as you develop it because it is utterly new, like an adventure, unfolding every minute.

Now we come to the crescent phase square which precedes the entering of the first quarter phase. This is an extremely difficult aspect to deal with. Equally hard is the disseminating square which precedes the last quarter square. The point is that what is looming on the individual's horizon is the vision of the first quarter. The first quarter is a yang phase energy now moving out from center action. In the first quarter it is going to be very important for the individual to actualize and establish concrete forms, actual lifestyle, that reflects what has been realized in the first two phases. So, here we have this dynamic tension between internalization in smaller environments and now the need to bring it out to the world. The key words for the first quarter phase is “crisis in action.” The initial crisis is experienced in the crescent phase square. You literally have a push-pull. The square itself is demanding action and externalization, the crescent phase is demanding internalization. Push-pull. The height of individual development is now at hand, tremendous creative stress to finally establish it. Here we have an absolute rebellion, because what is now the polarity point - the disseminating square.

The disseminating square means that that person is leaving behind cultural definitions, cultural archetypes, normalcy, status quo. Its consciousness is philosophically mutating in that particular aspect. This is a Van Gogh aspect.

The first struggle is to create an intellectual and/or philosophical superstructure in order to conceptualize or intellectualize and thus explain and/or communicate the actions contemplated because of the disseminating polarity. There is still the vision of society and how to establish its individual purpose in the context of the very society that the individual feels alienated from. As a result, this aspect can be very tough evolutionarily speaking to get through. The temptation is to rebel against all external authority. The fear is of being reabsorbed back into the very system that it wants to get out of. This aspect can promote the hyperculturally-alienated people of the world and based on cultural alienation, they never fully develop it. It can promote an ongoing, unceasing restlessness, a high degree of unpredictability of action. The positive side is that it is an aspect of leadership - the courage to confront the status quo, to do that which is new, to use the vision of how the status quo works upon itself. Yet, the status quo tends to feel utterly threatened by the new vision, the new way.

How many of you are familiar with Swami Kriyananda? Here is a man who established a
spiritual community in Northern California in the midst of a red-neck population. What do you think his reception was? His Sun/Moon in a crescent phase square. From another point of view, he was perceived as a threat by the very organization that he was involved with, the Self-Realization Fellowship. His mission was to establish one of Yogananda's principles for living, a spiritual colony of plain living and high thinking. He designated Kriyananda to do so. By the time he wanted to actualize Yogananda's vision, around 1960, the prevailing powers that were in SRF perceived this and interpreted it in the wrong way. They perceived it as him somehow trying to make a power play. So he was cast out. Crescent phase square, natural polarity, disseminating. He was cast out by the prevailing status quo, SRF, because he was now challenging that status quo, relative to Yogananda's own vision. So between 1960 and 1961, in a typically crescent phase way, he was literally forced to walk in the wilderness of his own loneliness without understanding what happened. Utterly confused by it. But now look. Relative to struggle, he was the one who established it, he was the one who spent four to five years working on it and totally supporting it financially by actualizing his own Sun/Moon purpose, teaching Yoga. But it has come full circle, and it now supports Kriyananda. Karma - action equaling reaction.


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Mar 19, 2012, 08:37 AM
                                                      FIRST QUARTER PHASE

Now we have the first quarter square - the key words are crisis in action. What it means is that the individual is striving to determine the actual form and/or lifestyle and/or how to actually make real this individual thing that was developed all the way back in the new phase conjunction. To actually act upon it and to establish it in the world in its own individual way.

For example if you have Mercury and Jupiter in first quarter phase square, it tends to suggest that that individual at minimum would be argumentative. It will attempt to confront the existing opinions or ideas or philosophies of another in order to establish its own knowledge of its own opinions through such confrontations and clashing. The person can even argue just to argue. The crisis in action is to determine the specific knowledge and opinions and language structure and philosophical conceptions that reflect its individuality. The polarity point, of course, would be last quarter phase, the words of which are crisis in consciousness. This essentially means crisis in belief.

What commonly happens in a first quarter phase because you are still dealing with a
relatively new issue here, after all it is only the third phase - is that the temptation is to borrow the philosophical superstructure of that which it feels drawn to. Let's say that I am fond of pondering metaphysical issues, Mercury/Jupiter/first quarter phase. My mind and my intuition lead to metaphysical ponderings. The effort, of course, is to establish my own view of things, but because it is still relatively new, my temptation is to borrow from existing philosophical systems, for example, Zen. I want to use this as my Philosophical justification to explain the nature of my own opinion. I use this as a roadmap to explain myself to myself and to anybody else. Let's say I have Mars/Venus in this situation. Am I going to happily conform to status quo ways of being in relationships? If I am a male, am I going to be attracted to being Rambo? If I am female, do I want to be Betty Crocker? The thing I want to do is to actualize concrete forms that reflects my individuality to which prevailing status quo offers me no clues. I tend to go through a variety of mates and/or experiences in order to find out what it is -essentially through a process of elimination, crisis in action. This crisis could be experienced as a partner who gives me flack, like you are not with me enough, and my first quarter phase saying I want freedom. This can be a crisis. Maybe my Venus function is wanting the relationship and my Mars function is saying that I want my freedom. I am in a dynamic state of conflict, square.

This is where you start filling in the blanks. What if I have Mars/Venus both in Capricorn, but in a new phase conjunction? Interesting symbolism. Does not Capricorn correlate to prevailing status quo, cultural norms, clues, the how you do its? But what is my new phase telling me?

We tend to use a 10 degree orb. That fill give you 5 degrees for a crescent phase and five degrees for the first quarter phase. The crescent phase square is passive/ aggressive whereas the first quarter square is downright aggressive. Just dwell on the archetype, because the manifestations are many. What if I have borrowed the philosophy to explain myself? If that philosophy has not been internally realized by me, do I really know it? What happens if I interface with someone who has inwardly realized Zen? Does this not now promote a conflict for me? As they question my knowledge?

Here is the biseptile -102 degrees and some odd minutes. This is the externalization of the septile - that special destiny - similarly, in the first quarter phase, there is a sense of social destiny being how linked with that first quarter phase. The person, will be tempted to link what their individual directions are with the conceptual framework that this is something special, something that I am trying to do that is special. Linked with the concept of fate which the biseptile carries forth, if I am dealing with Mars/Venus as my example, then I am fated to experience varied key people throughout my life that will have an intimate connection to me, special lovers. People who themselves are outside the ordinary, the status quo, who have a sense of special destiny about them, people who encourage me to develop, people I encourage to develop themselves, at minimum, a mutual respect for independence. The frustration in this phase is not achieving or actualizing what the special something is sensed to be because of the fear of being reabsorbed back into the past pattern: Thus a person who retains a rebellious stance throughout life, never meaningfully integrating into the society. A fear of entrapment. One evolves through that by realizing that it is a fear because the individuality is guaranteed. That started in the square and not it is being carried forth.

The polarity aspect at about 248 degrees is characterized by a condition where a person has programmed into their Soul at key points in their life people who will come into their lives circumstantially who are more evolved than they are, those people now tending to operate as mentors and/or who understand in an utterly objective way who this person is and thus have very timely messages or communications and/or last quarter teachings for that individual. They come at a key moment. The neat thing in that aspect is that the individual will recognize such an individual when they do in fact appear. Thus the normal resistance to external authority will not take place. That is also connected to the thing called fate. The person with this biseptile will resist lesser authorities, but recognize the real authorities.

The first quarter phase trine means that things have come to a temporary head with respect to evolutionary development. The person prior to this aspect has been struggling to actualize its own inherent individual expression of the two planets. It has come through many trials and tribulations. It has come through the need to instinctually assert itself and now it is time to develop it in the sense of total integration. The trine in the first quarter phase means that it is time to integrate this new evolutionary impulse within the ongoing daily context of the person's life. To have it a living reality every single day. Not something that is sought for or something to be held out as a carrot or a potential promise on yet another distant horizon, but to be established and lived out daily. The benefit of the trine in this arrangement is to have an understanding of all that has preceded it. To take the best of the past, i.e., to no longer fear it and to integrate it into the now, the best of both worlds. At best, this aspect demonstrates leadership, the courage to pioneer the new and knowing how to integrate it. That is the power of the trine. One the other hand, the characteristic of all non-stressful aspects is that the individual may reach a degree of comfortability and try to maintain just that and resist the impulse to change it. Thus, it maintains the status quo even if it is its own individual status quo.

Does the trine between mutable planets have a better chance of resisting the change? Not at all. The very archetype of mutability is continuous growth. One of the great strengths of the mutable archetype is adaptability. That is why the human species is still on the planet because of its innate ability to adapt to an ever changing environment. The instinct and dynamic of mutability is adaptability. So the mutable connection is one that guarantees growth actually.

We now have another mutational aspect. The sesquisquare or sesquiquad between the first quarter phase and the gibbous phase - 135 degrees.



Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Mar 20, 2012, 08:42 AM
                                                         GIBBOUS PHASE

This is a transitional phase of itself. It is the transition between the subjective orientation and objective orientation - from individual development to social development, integrating the individual development into the social scheme of things. The gibbous phase is the transitional archetype between the two. The key word for the gibbous phase is adjustment or self-analysis. What happens here is that now that we have moved through the first quarter trine, the individual is full of himself, very Leonian, and it wants to display and project itself to all. It is the same archetype of the actor who has received an Academy Award and wants all to know. And rightfully so in its own way. After all, it has been a hard-won journey all the way from that new phase conjunction: We get a few bennies in our life now and then, even in the midst of hardship. But, let's face it, most people in these kinds of societies feel threatened by another's accomplishments, by another's sense of well-beingness, by another being full of themselves and having a clear vision of what they are trying to accomplish. This kind of society, because of its religious ethics put such things down. There is nobody around here with pats on the back and congratulations for a journey hard-won. It's more the voice of , "Who in the hell do you think you are?"

We meet this environmental feedback at the first quarter sesquisquare. The first quarter reaction is to throw the question back, and to fight back. This is where it is important to understand sociological context. At some point, whether we like it or not we have to acknowledge that we belong to that context. Envy and jealousy abound. Another culture might say, "More power to you."

The first quarter sesquisquare is preparing the individual to integrate on society's terms, not on the individual's terms and therein lies the rub because at this juncture the person is full of themselves and does not want to bend to any one’s will.

And so there is tremendous tension, sesquisquare, conflict. How do I accomplish the goals relative to vision now that I am receiving this environmental feedback that feels like rejection? That is why we have these key words in the gibbous phase of analysis and adjustment, because when you meet that environmental feedback in. this sociological context, it will necessarily promote an existential and experiential crisis which will lead to analysis. Why has this happened? It is the search for knowledge. It is that search that progressively promotes the awareness of how that sociological context is put together. The problem in this kind of aspect is that once that awareness becomes known, the individual begins to feel very small and begins to feel overwhelmed by the sociological context. Then they begin to analyze all their own deficiencies, inferiorities, lacks and shortcomings and all the things they would necessarily have to accomplish, develop or adjust to make that vision reality. And all too often there is a shrinking from the task relative to now another yin phase, the person is thrown in on them self and they are literally experiencing the desert of their own personality and Soul. Somehow where there was richness and fertility, there is now a barren inheritance and thus the person feels lonely as if they are living in an existential void. This promotes crisis.

From a purely archetypical point of view, it is meant to induce humility meaning the person is full of them self and thus perhaps overly identified with their ego in the sense of being the center of the universe, too narcissistic. So this induces necessary ego-centric humility and thus the soul programs via this aspect the negative feedback as well as negative inner feedback as one analyzes oneself.

All of us go through this thing just by the sheer fact of having a Sixth House cusp. This lesson begins at the midpoint of the Fifth House, at those natural power points: 15 degrees Taurus, 15 degrees Leo, 15 degrees Aquarius, and 15 degrees Scorpio. The 135 degrees aspect is 15 degrees Leo as contrasted with 0 degrees Aries in the natural zodiac.

Sri Yukteswar said that the Soul is born when the celestial rays are in mathematical harmony with its karma. The essence of astrology. Moses said that astrology is a symbolic language of God.

The orb that I use is 3 degrees, 1-2 degrees on either side for the sesquiquad. I give the trine 10 degrees. I do not give the Sun or the Moon a wider orb.

So, until the individual learns this lesson, they tend to remain in the first quarter because the tendency is to go back where the fertility and richness lies. If you are standing on the edge of a desert and in back of you plants are growing, which choice will you make? But, at some point, we have to march forward, as ever, like it or not. It's either march forward or get forced out.

So the humility lesson and the need to acknowledge how the system works leads, in most cases, to seeking out the necessary training and activities and schools of higher learning that will give you the necessary certification to actualize the vision. This is another way of acknowledging humility.

The polarity phase here is balsamic. The gibbous phase is now promoting the awareness of the nitty gritty details of one's mundane daily life on a moment to moment basis. I am sensing the balsamic polarity and I want to escape. I am tired of these routines. I am bored. The balsamic is the vision of the absolute, the timeless, divinity, the ultimate, the ideal. So now that I am living my life in this very mundane way, submitting myself to this sociological context, this polarity point progressively tempts me to escape, to compare my reality with an ideal reality that I cannot find, but only can sense. What if I have Mars/Venus in a gibbous phase? Are not my relationships going to seem less than adequate? As measured against the undefined ideal. I will get bored with the normal tedious work I have to do in relationships to sustain it. This could make me irritable and critical and help me to take all the stupid little details and irritants and cause me blow them all out of proportion.

This could make me feel, Venus, that this is less than something I want, Mars. The school of life is now experienced through this relationship. Doubts, partner criticizes, I project. There could even be a refusal to accept any kind of relationship because of the sense of the ideal, timeless relationship.

This gibbous phase is to realize that the path to perfection is not through analyzing and criticizing, but through doing. Imperfection is a natural law of the earth. It is not here. Ultimately that gibbous phase Mars/Venus is teaching the person to seek a divine cosmic relationship within.

With respect to what has come before, the person has all kinds of subconscious memories of freedom and independence and now they are being required to be in a relationship which demands work, so resentment and anger exist.

When we talk about the quincunx or inconjunct, we are talking about a sincere humility, a real humility, not a false humility. The problem with this kind of aspect relative to the balsamic phase polarity is that anytime you have two planets in a waxing inconjunct (it used to be called a "Finger of God"), the person senses some kind of mission from on high and yet, relative to the gibbous phase, feels less than adequate as a personal vessel or entity to actualize it. It it imperfect, not good enough, inadequate. It doesn't realize how to actualize it, how to get there. It is the sensing of it, but it is like going from A to B with a million directions in between not a straight line, but lots of adjustments in between. At its worst, this aspect can promote the image of groveling in the dark. Sexually a masochist, a need to feel inferiority. There was a church in New York, a masochistic church, and an astrological study was done of these people and it was found that in 75% of these people, the nodal axis was in the Sixth and Twelfth Houses conjuncting the ascendant and descendant. This was reported in Astrology Now in one of the original issues. In this aspect, there is a sensing from on high. What tends to happen because the person is feeling less than perfect, they generate all kinds of rational reasons and excuses which in effect undermines the actualization of that which is promised from on high. God wants to express through you in this aspect, but the problem is that if I am a 10-watt bulb and God is 10,000 watts, that is a waxing inconjunct speaking.

I, myself, have a 1 degree waxing inconjunct between an Eighth House Uranus in Gemini and Mercury in Scorpio in the First House. When the Pluto book first came to me back in 1978 or 1979, I was overwhelmed, 10,000 watts, and there I was a little bulb that was flickering, at best. So I kept generating all the rational reasons and excuses why I couldn't write the book: I didn't have the time. I wasn't ready. I didn't have the financial luxury. I had too many kids, etc. for many years. Of course, inwardly, I was feeling inadequate because it certainly wasn't a book that I had deduced or decided upon or analyzed or thought about - it simply presented itself from on high. But, you can run out of excuses. My final excuse was a monetary one, Scorpio. At the right time a financial benefactor turns up and gives me the necessary money, non-repayable loan. So I didn't even have that excuse to take off. However, that financial gift would last me 60 days at most, so that clearly meant that the book was meant to be written in 60 days. So I stopped all my counseling and all my teaching and wrote it in 60 days. It turned out that it was something as simple as putting the pen on the paper - it wrote itself. My frustration was that my hand could not keep up. So, that was the school of life adjusting the dream to English all those years, the apprenticeship, because, of course, the dream was not in English, it was in Sanskrit. But, in the end, there was no excuse and it was very simple to do. The problem was an egocentric one. That is the dilemma of the gibbous phase. The way out is just to do it. There is nothing to think about. If you think about it you are lost.

Perfection is realized by putting one foot in front of the other - one day at a time. A centipede is fine as long as it just walks. But what happens when it tries to figure out where the sixth foot is? Paralysis.

We now have a very interesting aspect called the triseptile. Because this aspect is the final aspect before the gibbous phase opposition, it promotes a clarification of the individual's self-concept. Essential humility.

Now we are moving into the objective realm with the opposition. All that has come before has been subjective and has been adjusted in the gibbous phase, humiliated in the gibbous phase and now is thrust into the world of the social environment, not as an inferior, not as a superior, but as an equal. Before the gibbous phase, the person was full of themselves, thus superior. Gibbous phase has made them inferior. Now we reach a balance point in the full phase at least potentially.

                                                 


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Mar 21, 2012, 07:37 AM
continuing.............
                                                                   FULL PHASE

The key words for the FULL PHASE are meaning and completion. The individual has been completed. It is now time to completely establish it. It is time to release it, to share it, to relate it. It is time to be in relationship as an equal. The problem in the full phase, as we pointed out when we spoke about it before with respect to the new phase, is that it tends to compare oneself with others. To evaluate the individuality of oneself through contrast with others, to understand what your individuality is through comparison and contrast with the individuality of others - their values, beliefs, and lifestyles. It is through contrast and comparison, counterpoint awareness that I become aware of my social identity, not my subjective identity, but my social identity.

The need in the full phase is to initiate a diversity of relationships with a diversity of types which symbolize and represent a diversity of values, beliefs, lifestyles and through contrast and comparison, understanding myself.

The problem, of course, relative to the new phase, the polarity, is to overly engage in relationships. My social identity is new, it is not well established, that won't happen until the disseminating phase. Thus, my social identity is relatively insecure. When I go too far a field, i.e. too many relationships, too many comparisons, too many contrasts, I lose sight of my social identity and my temptation becomes to become that which I am not in order to feel socially secure. When this happens, the new phase polarity kicks in, i.e. the need to withdraw from social relationships, to recover the centeredness of my subjectivity, to rally around my own subjectivity, my subjective identity, my individual identity, not my social identity. This is an overload. Like mainlining too many people. For all of those who have a dominant Libra archetype in your nature, you know exactly what I am talking about. So, when you have recovered, then you need to return to the social sphere. So the person keeps going back and forth until the person learns how to remain centered within their own identity which is now integrated at a social level. The meaning of the opposition, then, is to teach this lesson. You have two opposing forces.

To describe the difference between an opposition in the gibbous phase and in a full phase, we will use Pluto opposed Jupiter as our comparison. In the gibbous phase, Pluto opposed Jupiter would translate into deferring to other people's presentations and ideas, the gibbous phase again is one of humility, self-analysis, yin, withdrawal and thus they would defer. The other would be seen as potentially more powerful, more dominant, more well-formulated conceptually speaking than how the individual is evaluating itself. If the person attempted to oppose the individual that they are in conversation with, they would tend to draw criticism from the person. The other person would tend to point out the loopholes, the weak links in their own intellectual arguments. Thus the person could be made to feel inferior.

To contrast this, let’s look at a full phase opposition of Pluto and Jupiter. Now this person is driving the other person into the dirt. It is like a reaction because of the social insecurity. The positive scenario would be that this person would treat others as equals, not needing to put others down in order to feel socially secure.

So, we come to the waning triseptile, cooperation with social and collective need in a realized state. Cooperation is the key.

The full phase inconjunct or quincunx is a very interesting aspect because in contrast with the gibbous phase inconjunct which has a more Virgo dynamic to it, this one contains the vibration of Scorpio. This now has everything to do with social limitations as contrasted with subjective or individual limitations. The waning inconjunct induces social humility and purification.

This is the aspect that all Seth people hate. In Seth philosophy, you are taught that you can be anything that you want, create your reality at will. However, it may be karmically, evolutionarily, destiny-wise impossible for you to be president of the U.S. due to social limitations. All Souls, all spirits are free, there are no limitations, no container, no boundaries. But then you put that Soul in something as limited as the human body and place it on something like the Earth - time/space limitations. This is hard for the Soul or spirit to accept. Until the lesson is learned in this aspect, confrontations will come your way. That is what the aspect is for - inner and outer confrontations.

Biquintile is contrast of capacities against those of others. If I go to an astrology convention, this aspect tells me who I am, that my special capacity is contrasting with another's capacity. Thus the uniqueness of my social function becomes clear.

Sesquisquare 225 degrees. This one is now taking place between the full phase and the disseminating phase.

                                                DISSEMINATING PHASE

The disseminating phase correlates to the totality of the sociological cultural system in which you find yourself. In our time, everything that America is correlates to the disseminating phase. All possible lifestyles, beliefs, values and all that which if impossible - disseminating phase. It is the highest degree of socialization, the absolute need to disseminate your purpose which was initiated all the way back at the new phase conjunction. Not just amongst friends and close relationship, but in a full blown integration within the world - job or career. When you pass the inconjunct, you become aware of what you are and what you can do and you go out and do it.

The problem is that the sesquisquare is the last initiation, the last social ritual, social rite toward that goal. You have realized the you are meant to be a stockbroker and you have a powerful vision of wanting to be a stockbroker. In this aspect, you have a powerful vision of how to do it in a unique way, in a way that will actually change the social system that you are about to participate in, now being the world of a stockbroker. At the full phase sesquisquare, until you learn the ways and the means of the stock brokering world, all their little happy rituals, all the things that they do, the consensus of the stockbroker world. Until you learn that, you will be rejected in the sesquisquare full phase. You will be perceived as willful and as threatening to the established status quo. The security is now found through consensus and disseminating phase. The challenge is to acknowledge how that system is working, how the consensus is working, not in the way of becoming it, but in a way of making it work for you. That is the enlightened approach. The problem in most cases is the becoming - that is the easier path. It creates and leads to less social and individual stress, does it not? That's the voice that says, "If you can't beat them, join them." The challenge is to join them without them knowing that you haven't really joined. After all, if things are left in the consensus state forever, it is just going to crystallize and die off. We have to have new blood. That is what this aspect is for, new input, new visions. The key word for disseminating phase is just that - to disseminate, to share, to give.

Now we move into a disseminating trine. At this point that consensus system will not perceive it as a threat. You have already learned to make it work to your advantage in such a way as to not be perceived as a threat, or you have given in and become it. In either case, you can integrate, establish, actualize, disseminate, give and do all the things that that trine promises, but you are still going to have this crescent phase polarity. If the disseminating correlates to the complexity of your society, can't this lead to a feeling of social weariness, of overload? You can get tired of all the crap that is going on, all the scandals, all the bullshit, and now the banks want to charge you for depositing money in their bank. See first you are paying them money to put your money in their bank. It’s ludicrous! You will find other banks following suite in a lemming-like way.

This crescent phase polarity, in our times and in our society, means the wistful desire to get out of the system, to withdraw, simplify, isolate, to pull the covers over the head. A national survey recently showed that most people don't want to know about all the crap, They want their soap operas. They don't want to watch the trials. That's why we have all these sitcoms. Dead on arrival. That's why we have Reagan being elected in this country, for nobody is paying attention.

Crescent phase is also what we call vacations when contrasted with the disseminating phase - time out. The temptation can be so strong with some people, to simplify and withdraw and to minimize the complexity in the disseminating phase, that some people will try to totally become that crescent phase. My point is that the disseminating phase, of itself, on balance, needs complexity, it needs to socially interact. It doesn't need consistent isolation, but periodic isolation.

From an evolutionary point of view, the disseminating phase is to establish social contracts, stabilities, laws, regulations, norms and having lots of people live together in a non-anarchistic state. We all have that need. Spoken like a true Marxist. Marxism is a very attractive philosophy until you understand it. Marxism's ultimate carrot is to promote a social system that has no rules, regulations, leaders, government. Everything being self-run through conscious individual choice. To do that which is necessary without instruction or guidance or dictums. That is Marxism's ultimate vision. But no political utopian philosophy, which Marxism is, has ever succeeded, and never will. This is why Marxism gets stuck, stuck in communism and other authoritarian, dictatorial governments which try to impose that ultimate Marxist vision which is not possible. Ideally Marxism is a completely socially equitable system. A more practical form of Marxism and/or communism is socialism as expressed in various governments in which it works - Sweden, Denmark, and Holland. This is why capitalists hate communism, because communism is social equitability, social equality, an even distribution of wealth. It won't work because of human nature. The Mars function, the First House function, the Aries function. You can validate that by driving on the freeway. Do you not see the Mars principle alive and well? How many people do you see when they want to change lanes back off versus speed up?

Now we move into the disseminating square which is a very difficult aspect - the Van Gogh aspect.


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Mar 22, 2012, 10:31 AM
                                                      LAST QUARTER PHASE

The key words for this are crisis in consciousness which effectively means (these are Rudhyar's words - crisis in consciousness) essentially crisis in belief: What are you going to believe in? You have just now evolved out of consensus, out of social systems. You are now mutating into a consciousness which now needs to establish new beliefs, new ideas, to look at reality differently, the bottom line being that what you believe determines your values. Your values determine how you live your life, how you are relating to yourself as well as to someone else. Values determine lifestyles relative to beliefs. So if you are having a crisis in consciousness/beliefs, you are having a crisis in lifestyle and identity.

This square is kicking off the first quarter square but also the opposition and the conjunction points - the primary vertical/horizontal of the natural circle. So it is massive tension, the temptation to go backwards where familiarity lies, the known, the controlled. The fear is moving into an unknown that you cannot define, but can only sense. The pull is toward the balsamic so that the disseminating square begins to highlight this tension. Van Gogh felt alienated from the very system that he was trying to integrate his paintings within. So he did, crescent phase polarity. He hung out in his little place. This massive inner conflict of belief, is it not self-torture? He had a square between the Sun/Moon. The archetype of the Sun/Moon is self-actualization, how you actualize your purpose on a daily basis.

I tend to describe this as the mutation between Scorpio and Sagittarius and/or Capricorn to Aquarius.

The temptation that most people feel at that last quarter square junction especially when it is still in the disseminating phase is to go backwards rather than forwards. For example, if you found Mars/Venus in a disseminating square, the temptation in most people would be to adopt cultural norms with respect to learning how to and being in relationships. They take social clues as the clues, because that constitutes familiarity and thus security. Yet you are still going to have this dynamic tension, square, between that Mars and Venus. This is moving into this crisis in consciousness which now equals crisis in belief relative to how to be in relationships. The person is beginning to move beyond the status quo or cultural norms as clues. Yet they don’t, at this point in time, know how to consciously define that which they are trying to move into. Since they can't define what they are moving into, the temptation is to simply go with what "works". Thus they end up manifesting frustration. In general, if a person adopts that behavioral compensation, roughly around the first Saturn return, they will reach a major degree of crisis if the person is at all conscious, meaning not asleep. If they are asleep, it won’t make any difference, sort of like the nudge against the elephant, but the elephant remains in place. If you throw a pebble against an elephant, is it going to move?

However, for some who are in some way awake, this will equal a developmental crisis around the first Saturn return, a relationship crisis, a behavioral crisis. What the person is trying to evolve into is a radically different kind of relationship in which that partner is going to be like them self, i.e. actually challenging and questioning, square, the nature of cultural norms himself in all value systems, all cultural moral imperatives. They are going to need a partner who, like themselves, is now challenging these things and thus, the most immediate new need is to find a partner who is now going to have a degree them self now challenging these things and thus, to find a partner who is now going to have a degree of philosophical sympatico which will then allow for the emotional sympatico in this case, it is a matter of what comes first. Thus, they march off together to establish with courage their own norms.

This will finally evolve into the last quarter square itself. This particular aspect tends to produce two extremes, either individuals who rabidly defend the past in a William Buckley-like way (what an arrogant creep, eh?) or utterly challenge the past.

Cults are a phenomena of all times and places, not just this one. The deeper issue in the Uranus/Neptune square generation (taking place from Cancer to Libra) is a group of people who are born to parents or a culture, in either-case your early family or early environment, which does not have a lot of cultural or family support for their inherent individuality. This sets in motion identity and/or emotional confusion because they are going to be exposed to cultural or parental norms that have no relationship to that individuality. This, of course, forces the child in on itself. It makes it confused. It doesn't know why it is happening and creates all kinds of displaced child-like emotions that are dragged into adulthood which become the basis of overt or covert emotional projections onto the adult partner, the adult partner itself now reflecting the parent who didn't understand and the adult relationship collapses.

The point here is that you have a whole bunch of people, Uranus in Cancer, who are learning how to be utterly self-secure, learning how to liberate, Uranus, from emotional dependencies. That is why it dictates such conditions. But of course the child does not have the conceptual equipment to understand it that way - it just knows that its needs are not being met. Any child will rightfully feel that it has a right to have its needs met, after all it is a child. We are only children once, aren't we? So it creates an identity confusion. A bunch of folks in that generation beyond this have gender confusion, because it is a generation that is actually trying to liberate from the restrictions of just purely male and female. They are actually trying to seek a degree of actualized androgyny - the unification of the genders. This can create gender confusion in these people: All they know is that they are not either Betty Crocker or Marlboro Man. So, unless there is cultural or family support, it can turn out gay people in an increasing percentage. Or, in other cases, people who simply refuse to be in relationships, who would rather go it alone, Cancer. The issue of relationship, Neptune in Libra, is just too confusing, too emotionally messy and the Uranus part in Cancer says, "I'd rather not deal with that!" Yet they still have very viable emotional needs that must be met in their relationships. When you put all this in a last quarter square, you can see how all this, i.e. crisis in belief, crisis in consciousness, now in identity, manifests.

From a purely evolutionary point of view, there is a whole generation that is meant to learn how to parent in different ways because what has preceded this is a bunch of parents who have said, "Do it my way, be a vicarious extension of me.” There is a whole ethic in this country where the children are not supposed to talk, just do what I say. That is a prevailing ethic. Now all of a sudden, here comes this generation who is meant to learn how to parent in a radically different way, i.e. parents who must learn how to encourage the unique individuality of the child, not to make them carbon copies of themselves. So unless the child has that kind of parent, they will rebel against their parent.

So, at this evolutionary gate, until the individual learns to adopt and embrace beliefs that are unique to its own identity, it will remain at this gate. Any two planets that you find in this kind of situation remain there until they succeed. That means breaking through cultural norms. The square creates the necessary tension or stress to do so. That is the point. Even if it is the second Saturn return. If you have Pluto in Cancer, even if you are in a consensus state with a last quarter aspect, that shows that at least those two functions in you are trying to individuate to some extent and yet within the context of the herd state.

We said with the quintile, the two key words that can apply here are creative transformation. A person in the herd state with this aspect could be a welder with Mercury quintile Jupiter last quarter. This person could find himself inwardly inspired, who knows from what origin, to evolve welding, new techniques, to creatively transform the existing knowledge called welding and feeling inwardly inspired to do so. Of course, the consensus state person may not yet be able to conceptualize the cosmic other, but nonetheless, they will feel the inspiration, and at some point, wonder, "Where did this thought come from?" It is certainly not going to be a thought based on deductive analysis. Thus he transforms not only himself, but also the system of the welding world in which he finds himself. At some point somebody had to evolve helioarc welding - maybe it was somebody who had this quintile aspect. Who knows? This aspect is a very creative aspect - the spirit of uniqueness, invention, innovativeness is here no matter what evolutionary station the person finds himself in.

Alright, Sextile. Productive purpose and understanding of the role in society. Again, the herd state person may not define it this way. They would simply find themselves fulfilling a role that transcends or is beyond or outside of the status quo of welding. It doesn't mean that the person needs to conceptualize it in this way with fancy words, they may just be it. As the person evolves, then the intuitive awareness of how to conceptualize it, to explain it comes with that turf, i.e. as the person evolves.

The transition between the past and the future can be easily made or easily resisted at this evolutionary juncture. Again, the problem with non-stressful aspects is that they can reach a certain level of growth that the phase dictates (background - phase) and then reach a degree of comfortability with it and then attempt to maintain their own status quo because of that and resist future impulses to go forward.

Jupiter quintile Pluto, for example, at minimum the person is going to throw atomic bombs at prevailing consensus belief systems. There is going to be an evolutionary necessity to transcend sectarian views. That is the expansiveness of Jupiter experiencing the sectarianism's limitations, Pluto.

Septile - This special purpose is beyond an individual issue. It is a socialized issue. A social function in which the individual finds the purpose relative to the function itself. Again, in my own case, Uranus in septile aspect to Pluto. One of the hatreds I have carried through many lives now is astrology and it finally came to a head in this life - and much to my own horror, Pluto, I had to fulfill this socialized role, Uranus. I was quite content to live in the monastery. So this special event, the “y” in the road, comes through a teacher in the monastery, "You can't have this opinion of astrology without studying what you have the opinion about." Certainly makes sense. Since I have to respect the demand, Pluto, I went out and bought a book, read two pages and had a great vision. I would say the hatred is gone. I still feel the limitations, but it certainly has been a vehicle for me to accomplish much of what my Soul has intended, a number of which is finding a language which makes sense to most people and to accomplish the deeper tasks of helping people to free themselves from their own conditioning to empower people to be themselves. I get satisfaction in the sense of cooperating with God's will by simply fulfilling the function. When the rare client has the courage to apply the advice, that's excitement. The universe is excited at that point.

Semi-square - again a mutational aspect, we are now leaving behind the last quarter phase and moving into the balsamic.

                                             BALSAMIC PHASE

The key words are absolute, infinite, the time-less, that which goes beyond time and space. There is an impulse in every single human being to transcend, the sense in every single human being that there is more to reality than meets the eye. Every human being has that knowledge; it is the conflict in every human being between ideals and reality. When one moves into the balsamic phase, it means that one is beginning to complete and entire cycle which has preceded it, it is a culmination issue, a yin phase. The temptation in the yin phase is to completely withdraw, to retreat, to reclude from all that which has come before. Yet, relative to culmination, you have to complete, to tie up all the loose ends that have come before so that the new evolutionary cycle that you are preparing for can be born cleanly, without residual effect from the past. So we have a push-pull here. On the one hand the individual in itself wants to retreat and, yet relative to the necessity for completing must come out of itself and to engage in the normal circumstances which will constitute anybody's life. So it is a push-pull. This, from a purely archetypical point of view, demonstrates or symbolizes the final merging of divine will. That is the archetype.

So when we come into this semi-square, it is an incredible irritant. When you find it still in the last quarter phase, there are still all kinds of external obligations, duties and demands, roles to play, that must be fulfilled. And yet the person always inwardly sense a kind of feeling of a distant horizon that they are trying to get to. A horizon that has no obligations and duties, only freedom. So there is inner conflict.

In the semi-square, the key is to follow those contrasting rhythms and to do both the new and the old when the impulse manifests. Then the person will be in absolute harmony with themselves and thus, there will be no conflict. The problem in this semi-square is the sensing of new seeds for they are not conceptualized or defined. They don't have words to put on them. They are just sensed. The person wants to have the experiential freedom to initiate that which they need to initiate to find out about it. It is the vision of the poet who sees the future and yet people of the existing moment don't want to see it. The person is considered strange, balmy, outside of the status quo and nobody can relate to them. They are trying to move into a timeless form. What would be a timeless form of relationship for example, just monogamy? Just one to one? Is that a timeless form of relationship? What if you have Mars/Venus in a balsamic state? Your quest is for a timeless ideal relationship. That which reflects timelessness, that which is natural, not conditioned. Is monogamy, a one-to-one relationship, that which is most natural to the species? What is the natural and actual instinct in the species? The answer is that there are no absolutes.

So, if you take Mars/Venus in the balsamic phase, it means that that individual is seeking an entirely different kind of relationship, a relationship with the divine, first and foremost and learning how to see the divine in their partner, first and foremost, thus effecting unconditional love, not conditional love. In this state, you are in a timeless relationship.

Relative to cultural context, it doesn't matter if you find yourself as an American Indian two hundred years ago and find yourself with one man/two women or more. Everything reflects cultural necessity in the end. So if it is most efficient to live in that relationship model, then that is what happens. If it is most efficient to live in a monogamous model, one-to-one, relative to cultural necessity, that is what happens. If it is most efficient to live in a harem state, that is what happens. Efficient for who? The culture. Not the individual, but the culture. The point being that in those cultures, they had many children, so it took lots of people to raise them. In those times, survival itself was important. Simple food gathering was the norm. Biologically speaking, man, stronger physically, was more evolved to hunt down the animal for food. It's not that the woman can't do it, it is just more efficient for the man to do it. So it comes down to cultural efficiency, cultural necessity.

The balsamic is trying to reach these kinds of understandings. If you have Mars/Venus in a balsamic phase, it simply means, relative to culmination, that you are destined to meet many people throughout your life with whom you have had prior live dealings, people with whom you are culminating or finishing relationships with. It means that the older you become in this life, if that is your condition, that you will begin to meet new people, people who you will not be allowed to be in an intimate relationship with, but with whom you will establish seeds that will grow into future lifetimes together.

So, given the backdrop of the balsamic phase, there is a temptation to withdraw from the nitty gritty details, gibbous phase polarity, of any of our lives. There is also a degree of psychological compensation, i.e. many people who experience balsamic planets don't know how to live with them. It makes them feel inwardly too strange. So what do they do, they effect compensation to the gibbous polarity and attempt to live life as most people live it. For example, if you are in a culture that places a major premium on possession gathering, that is what the person will become in an overemphasized way. They would be even more into the collecting of possessions. If you are in a culture that advocates sexual promiscuity, and you have this Mars/Venus balsamic, and your natural inclination is to withdraw to find the cosmic lover, yet you are feeling strange about that because you can't conceptualize it this way, don't you see how the gibbous polarity interacts now? The person overdoes it. And this will finally degenerate into a gibbous phase crisis and now the person must analyze what they have been doing.

In the Mars/Venus balsamic, we are dealing with different types of relationships, not just intimacy. It is just that we are trying to culminate a certain type of way of being in relationship with someone and to evolve into new ways.



Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: cat777 on Mar 22, 2012, 11:17 AM
Hi Rad,


I was looking at a chart that has several quintiles (creative transformation).  What I noticed is that most of these quintiles involve either the Sun or the MC.  From what I understand, both the Sun and the MC and other major angles) symbolize current life intentions.   With that thought in mind I started wonder how one would interprete these types of aspects (current intentions involving the Sun or Asc/MC/IC/Desc) in terms of using Phases.  Phases are descriptive of the evolution of a specific evolutionary intention symbolized by the two planets involved in the aspect (any aspect – not just quintiles).  This all makes sense from a prior life point of view .  My question is how to interprete the phase when it only applies to a current life intention.  Do we consider the phase?

Thanks in advance as I am sure you will make this clear to me  

cat


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Mar 23, 2012, 07:42 AM
Hi cat,

Hi Rad,


I was looking at a chart that has several quintiles (creative transformation).  What I noticed is that most of these quintiles involve either the Sun or the MC.  From what I understand, both the Sun and the MC and other major angles) symbolize current life intentions.   With that thought in mind I started wonder how one would interprete these types of aspects (current intentions involving the Sun or Asc/MC/IC/Desc) in terms of using Phases.  Phases are descriptive of the evolution of a specific evolutionary intention symbolized by the two planets involved in the aspect (any aspect – not just quintiles).  This all makes sense from a prior life point of view .  My question is how to interprete the phase when it only applies to a current life intention.  Do we consider the phase?

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Yes, we consider the phase in these situations. The phase will correlate to how the current life intentions or purposes is intended to be acted upon by the Soul relative to aspects from other planets to the Sun, or the angles, that are then integrated by the Soul relative to the entire EA signature in the birth chart.

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God Bless, Rad



Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Mar 23, 2012, 09:33 AM
continuing .. here is the section on 'key planetary pairs' ... the next post will be examples of these...

                                               KEY PLANETARY PAIRS

These are the definitions of the key planetary pairs. Now you can place them in their phasal context and you will have some information in order to understand how they are operating archetypically. Then you add the next layer, the signs they are in, then the houses they are in, and then you synthesize, which is the art of the astrologer, the ability to synthesize archetypes, even if they are competing archetypes - that is the art of astrology, no longer a technical issue, but an art.

                                                     Sun/Moon

These correlate to the psychological notion of self-actualization, the need in all people to actualize their inherent purpose for their life on a day to day basis, to give that purpose a face and image, a way of personally identifying itself, Moon. It describes how the person continuously is integrating them self on a moment to moment, second to second, year to year basis.

Now, the need to give it a self-image or a name equals the need to feel secure with it. The Moon, of itself, correlates to the nature, type and relative strength of one's ego, the phenomena of the ego itself. It is not possible to get rid of the ego. You cannot operate on the brain and remove the ego nor can you remove it psychologically. The issue, spiritually speaking, is to align that ego with the divine ego, that is what the true meaning of getting rid of the ego means. The ego is necessary because it is an individualizing agent. It gives a self-image. That self-image can be quite different, by the way, than how other people see you. There can be a discrepancy. What others see and what you see in the mirror is the ascendant, how one instinctually projects oneself without forethought. It is pure instinct.

So, the Sun/Moon describes this by phase. If it is new phase, is this not clearly described, from an evolutionary point of view, as how you go about actualizing yourself, your purpose in this life, comes under this new phase, instinctually. The Sun/ Moon new phase has the instinctual need to initiate experience without encumbrance, without obligation, without commitment, without excessive apology or explanations. It is the need to have enough freedom in life to initiate enough experiences to gather the necessary reactions to find out about yourself and what that purpose is and, at a deeper level, to generate an egocentric structure which in a new phase is forever changing. When a new phase Sun/Moon gets frustrated or confused, it borrows from the full phase - the law of polarity.

Let's say we have Sun/Moon new phase, which is essentially an Arian vibration, and what if those two are in Capricorn, double Capricorn. Relative to the emergence of the new cycle, the new self, the new purpose, the new ego which is not formulated, it is obviously possible that this person is going to take his clues from the social system into which he is born and that from them. A classic illustration of this is Nixon. Nixon with a Sun in Capricorn and Moon in Aquarius, new phase, and yet a Tenth House Pluto. He gravitated to powerful social identities, lawyer, EP, Senator, liar, that equaled his sense of personal identity and thus accepted all the prevailing social customs and norms as convenient props to use. This is why you had that weird body type. You have this Capricorn which is trying to contain the Aquarius which is trying to erupt; a person who doesn't know what they are. So you had all these herky-jerky movements, and all the sweat. Whole coats would be lost. Showering and airing wouldn't help. That is because of the high degree of inner compression equaling resistance.

                                                     Moon/Saturn

These correlate to your ability to integrate your ego, your personal identity, who you are within the context of the social systems and/or culture, Saturn, in which you find yourself. The ability to establish your own authority within the authority of the culture. Earlier, it is the social conditioning of family. Heritage, consensus values, lifestyles, beliefs, social class and sociological context - all these shape one's identity. This archetype perpetuates the status quo, the mainstream.

With a new phase Moon/Saturn, you are going to be highly susceptible to your family's imprint but, you are also going to find the instinct to define it, Saturn, yourself, Moon. This can create a clash with the parents and ultimately a cultural clash at some point. With the Moon/Saturn in Aries instead of Capricorn, parents who simply expect you to conform to their ways are going to be faced with a potential battle from day one. Contrast that with the Moon/Saturn being in Aries/Taurus still new phase. Now we would see cycles of collision, butting heads with cycles of stability, Taurus.

Ultimately, the Moon/Saturn tells you how you are going to integrate into society.

                                                    Mars/Venus

How one completes oneself through relationships. The act of creation itself is a coupling, the coupling of the creator with its creation. The dynamic of relationship is pervasive and exists at all levels. It is also how one is relating to oneself and thus, how one is relating to another.

Mars/Venus in a crescent phase septile is an individual who is struggling to establish through introspection the uniqueness of her own needs and thus what she desires. The need to bulwark herself from the expectation, Venus, disseminating phase, of society. Throughout her life she will attract key people who will point out the right direction relative to the “y" in the road. This person will feel that she has a special, i.e. septile, mate to be with.

                                                   Mercury/Jupiter

This is how one establishes her beliefs, her principles, her philosophies, and creates the necessary intellectual apparatus to explain them, to communicate them. As a result, it correlates to how the person goes about learning as a general dynamic throughout life. All the facts that one learns can ultimately be put together into a belief system.

Mercury/Jupiter in a first quarter square represents a person who instinctually resists or repels information, beliefs or philosophies that she, herself, has not decided upon. She is therefore, resistant to learning that which she does not want to learn. She may become combative or argumentative in conversations and communications of all kinds. She is considered to be strongly opinionated and yet by nature, she is destined to attract, based upon her inner vibration, people who are just as strongly opinionated, just as argument and confrontation prone.

This could be a problem for a 71-year old who is now forced to go through the public education system. Let's put Mercury in Aquarius and Jupiter in Scorpio. As a form of rebellion, he would simply withdraw from the teacher. It would be covert, probably, but just as effective.
So, in effect, this pair describes how you go about learning. In the new phase, this represents a person who challenges existing facts in order to determine new facts from such challenges. This would be different from a person who has Mercury/Jupiter in a disseminating trine. Here is a person who is tired from the battle, evolutionarily speaking.

                                                         Jupiter/Saturn

Again, Jupiter is correlating to your beliefs and how these beliefs are going to be linked or in harmony or disharmony with the consensus belief patterns of the culture in which you find yourself thus, impacting, i.e. beliefs do determine lifestyle, on your ability to economically survive. If one's beliefs are inherently antithetical to society's beliefs, one would have to create a lifestyle outside that society which impairs one’s ability to earn a living, to make it financially.

Mercury in Pisces and Jupiter in Gemini in last quarter square would be confused about all kinds of ideas which come at them because they are susceptible to the prevailing ideas and would try to adopt them for themselves because they do not know what to think, Pisces. It is in a mutational state, crisis in consciousness, it is leaving behind that which has come before, but without conception, Pisces, and trying    to compensate, Jupiter in Gemini, by adopting those Gemini ideas and calling them their own. But, because of the impulse of the last quarter, it will just throw out as it goes. It will adopt, apply for a while, throw out, adopt some more, throw out so there will be cycles of clarity where some ideas will work for a while, then they will not work which sets in motion a pattern of collecting more information, etc.     

                                                             Digression

Last quarter and balsamic are people who are turning inward, not trying to reform society and lose themselves in society, they are just trying to understand themselves - so they are not so dynamic. They are trying to understand themselves in relation to the cosmos - an impulse that they cannot conceptualize in most cases. The last quarter is a yang phase which means that you have to take actual action upon this mutational process linked with the crisis in consciousness. It does demand experience, whereas the balsamic is a yin phase. Now you are allowed to internalize and that is why that conflict is measured initially at that semi-square between the two.

Back to Saturn/Jupiter- the economic issue relative to philosophy is obvious. The Jupiter/Saturn cycle has a 20-year life, from conjunction to conjunction.and comes to a point of maturity at the opposition every ten years. When they are in a new phase, you have the impulse of a new economic philosophy relative to political context which is now initiated by whoever happens to be holding power. “Reaganomics” was new relative to what had just happened.

For example, in the 1920s, credit spending came into vogue with respect to the stock market, with futures, speculations, things based on paper rather than reality. We had a president, Harding, who created massive economic problems, who was then followed by Reagan's greatest hero. This new economic philosophy generated the great depression by 1930. Next came FDR and yet another economic philosophy. So the 1940s were prosperous with respect to a wartime economy, the initial seed of the industrial military complex. Then, again recession in the 1950s. The 1960s were a prosperous decade, a democratic balanced budget, Lyndon Johnson, based on another military economy, the Viet Nam war. The 1970s were another recession decade.. (Notice that the Democrats have generated prosperous times and not Republicans, despite the claims to the contrary.) Then comes along Mr. Reagan with his balanced budget by 1982! How many Americans bought into it? Remember the famous commercial "The shrinking dollar”? It is the economic philosophy of the party that is operating here, Saturn/Jupiter. So, we come to an opposition again in 1989 and 1990. It suggests that the 1990s might not be different no matter who is in power because things are too totally out of whack.

(Since 1840, every president elected every 20 years never finished his office alive. He either died through natural causes or was assassinated.)

Reagan is going to break this, however, because the fact is that..... that is the nature of this harmonic convergence, by the way..... The bottom line is that we are now beginning to enter the Aquarian Age. We are in a mutation of ages. Anytime two ages mutate, you have the opportunity to break the cycle of history repeating itself. So one of these little examples is presidents dying or being killed. Reagan will prove this.

So, unless drastic measures are made, the 1990s may very well be, at least for the U.S., that is the context we are speaking of - drastic while at the same time, necessary. If the strength of the economy is based on foreign investments and most of the foreign countries own the gold which is that basis of the U S. economy, what happens when they buy out? It means that when investments in this country are no longer attractive, they can get a rate of return in another country better than this one. When it comes to money, there is no loyalty.

                                                       Saturn/Uranus

This is the most important cycle. It has a 48-year life from conjunction to conjunction and comes to maturity every 22 years to 24 years after the conjunction. It establishes the social tone, structure, every 48 years. The new social impulse, order, structures. For example, the last conjunction took place in 1942 in Taurus. The context at that time was WW II and life was on the line. The instinct for survival of the human species is the archetype of Taurus. The revolutionary impulse of Uranus redefining the current structure, Saturn. The maturity in the late 60s was a radical revolution in values, Taurus, personal and human values. The effort was made to radically redefine society itself. The Jews' attitude in the concentration camps was that it was an act of revenge to survive and became a slogan amongst the Jews in the camps.

The original conjunction is now in a balsamic state with itself and is getting ready to form another conjunction next year. This next one is most important because it is going to be taking place in the center of our galaxy between 26 to 28 degrees Sagittarius. Sequentially, there is an inconjunction between the cycle that is now completing and the new one starting next year. Think about that in terms of necessary adjustments.

An example is the species experiencing, relative to existing stress, Uranus, dysfunctional procreational ability. This may be necessary in order to hold down the overpopulation problem. However, man develops even more birth technology (Uranus/Taurus - revolutions in birth technology). Now man has even developed the ability to impregnate a chimpanzee with his sperm and to make a sub-species. What for? Who knows - it is science run amok! The basic issue, however, is one of laziness and wanting a sub-breed to do all the mundane chores, slave labor. The inertia/laziness of Taurus. This is a reflection of the initial conjunction in Taurus.

There was also a revolution in human values, Taurus, that matured or peaked in the late 60s. This challenged the existing social structure, Saturn, to change, radically so, through confrontation - the polarity point being Scorpio. This change was accomplished with the help of music, Taurus. When Rock and Roll was developed in the 50s, relative to the McCarthy era, it was considered a communist conspiracy. There were a series of super conjunctions in Leo in the 50s, so people began to feel their oats, did they not? Super conjunctions are five planets or more in one sign.

In 1990 we are going to have six planets conjunct (maybe 7) in Capricorn. Look at all the faces fall. You should see it through my eyes.

The Joan Baez’s and the Beatles and the Bob Dylan’s that we all responded to in the 60s, they all had this conjunction of Saturn/Uranus in Taurus. These were the seed people.

Take the distribution of food, for example. What do you have when certain countries have stockpiles of food that they have to destroy and you have other countries in which there is starvation? No distribution for political reasons. This sets up Scorpio polarization.

The back to the land movement in this country is a Taurus issue. Self-sufficiency is a Taurean phenomena. Now, with Neptune in Capricorn, what is happening to the farmer? They have borrowed money from the farm credit bureau and the government supports it, so they buy into it, simple-minded folk, and then the government pulls the plug. Then the happy family farmer is a corporate farm that is now monopolized and now being controlled.

Next year, the initial conjunction, I believe, is at 26 degrees Sagittarius in February, then retrogrades and returns in July, then retrogrades and returns in November right at the point of the next election in this country. That is why you will find that the election in this country next time will be one of the most important political events in the modern era. That is because the U.S., like it or not, is one of the most powerful countries in the world. If the conjunction is taking place at the center of the solar system, the galaxy, does this not symbolically suggest that the leader that we ought to be electing should be a centrist, one who can respect and incorporate all views, not an extremist, who by definition eliminates all views that are not in conformity with his own. A Sagittarius, Paul Simon, is a centrist, the guy with the bow tie, the one they call a defacto Harry Truman. He was in Seattle a while ago. They like to call him a liberal, but he is a centrist, just look at his voting record. A centrist who would re-prioritize the excesses of the last administration, i.e. the infra-structure, rather than dedicating all these vast amounts of money to the delusion of Star Wars. Take all those potential billions and rebuild the infra-structure of this country. That would make a happier country.

The international outlook should be "unity in diversity" not unity in sameness which is a Reagan, Republican delusion. The conjunction in Sagittarius is a looking outward, whereas the introspection is Gemini. The U.S. chart has Gemini rising. There is also a reflection of Neptune in Capricorn's polarity in Cancer. That is why Gorbachev is trying to rebuild the internal structure of his own country and why he is so willing to cooperate in disarmament because this allows him to spend more money for his infra-structure. Can't you see a world in which two countries like the U.S.A. and the U.S.S.R. simply say, "Yep, we're different!" "Fine!", and then join together to make global peace? Is it not just as possible to do that as it is to have some idiot go, "Evil Empire!". So why not elect a leader with such a vision when you have existing candidates with such a vision. Why not elect them? Use your power to vote.

If that kind of individual is elected and sets those kinds of priorities and policies in place, then the potential cataclysms that you all hear about will not happen. Conversely, if another like Reagan is elected (let's call him a person), then the probabilities for drastic scenarios increase.

So, this is what this new conjunction is trying to tell us. It is forming in Sagittarius. This is why we are seeing all these "communist" countries becoming more democratic - the essence of the Sagittarian archetype is democracy. The essence of the Capricorn archetype is authoritarianism or totalitarianism or theocracy, as you see in Iran, Neptune in Capricorn, Theocracy! These fools actually make statements like, "Iran is the country to implement divine principles". This is their statement, Neptune in Capricorn. What an insanity, Neptune. What a massive delusion, Neptune.

The issue of Neptune in Capricorn affects us in such ways as the fundamental right to bring religion into government. Reagan is trying to make tax breaks for segregated schools, and specifically schools that are religiously based. What about trying to bring prayer back into the schools, what about trying to dissolve the separation between church and state - all these things Reagan has tried to do. The idiot, Jerry Falwell, and his Moral Majority, and the basis being fundamental Christianism, is an example of Neptune in Capricorn. What about trying to take away human rights that have been recently won, including abortion? This is somebody trying to impose their version of Christianity and morality on someone else. This is happening right now and is history repeating itself.

Neptune and Uranus were in Sagittarius through 1820 - the whole of Western Europe was moving toward democracy and new freedoms. For example, the Jew in France was finally considered an equal citizen. When Neptune and Uranus went into Capricorn in 1820, there was a return to authoritarianism. There was a removal of the rights that were just won. In this country there was a movement to make a double vote, i.e. for those who were wealthy, there was going to be a double vote. At that point in time, the democrats were described right in the happy history books as "republican democrats".

What do we see now? History repeats itself. The bottom line is that this conjunction happens next year and will be with us for 48-years with a maturity point 22-24 years after the conjunction. That is roughly 2010.

On a generational basis, each generation has a six-year life, each phase takes roughly six years to move to the next phase. That means millions of people are born with these various Saturn/Uranus phase relationships, i.e. new phase, crescent phase, and so on. So, just as we had those seed people bringing new values through the medium of music - those that had the new phase, those who had the crescent phase when they were born struggled to establish, remember the key words, and make real that which the seeds promote, and so on.....

A perfect example of this balsamic thing is that when Reagan got elected he had a thing called "The New Federalism". It went nowhere, but (as most of his things) the reality was that what he was trying to do was to make the state self-sufficient by decreasing federal monies to the state - trying to make each state responsible for its own reality - which, on a idealistic level, is fine, but, in terms of actual reality, i.e. there is qualitative difference between the state of affairs in Mississippi and New York State - and it became non-workable. That is a perfect example of that theme of self-reliance now brought all the way up to governmental potential policy.

The bottom line here is that when you look at it economically (Taurus does represent economics) that was the initial introduction of the military/industrial complex as a viable structure for supporting national economic policy. Eisenhower was the first, amongst all people, to warn against this. And what has Reagan done with it? Thrown billions at it to the point where the missiles can't even hit the planes they are shot at. That's a waste of money. That's balsamic. Think about that reality. Or sending this massive flotilla over there without mine sweepers. Billions of dollars later, the U.S. Navy has three mine sweepers from the Korean era.

So what I am trying to say is that, for whatever impact you have on people in your life, I suggest that you, as socratically as possible (a Sagittarian message) plant these kinds of seeds, i.e. doesn't it seem reasonable that we should have a centrist now versus an extremist, who knows how far those seeds may travel. It seems to me that people who are trying to make the effort to evolve out of the status quo have some sort of responsibility to plant such seeds - but not in a Billy Graham-like way.

That is part of the Uranus in Sagittarius educational function which must now be brought to the status quo reality of Saturn transiting Sagittarius.

When you have a country that, from a white man's point of view, was basically won with a six-gun and you have somebody up there with their Marine-Corps uniform and doing all that crap that he did in a mesmerizing fashion like Reagan does, it appeals to certain crowds. But it is a regional thing. The people in the country admire North, while the people in the cities don't necessarily. The country is a Sagittarian dynamic. It's the same crowd that elected Reagan.

You know I was a movie major for a while in college and noted the way they held the camera: the camera angle was looking up at him. What does this symbolically say? At the same time, the camera was looking down on the questioners. What is the implication, the subtle message? That angle wasn't true for all those witnesses, was it? That wasn't done with Schultz, was it? Straight on. It's a good question who was behind the camera. Probably the same people who are running the government now that Reagan is on vacation.



Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Heidi on Mar 23, 2012, 02:37 PM
Hi Rad,

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The Septile. Now the sense of individuality which has been initially established in the new phase, by the time it gets to the Septile, it is linked with a conceptual sense or an instinctual sense, depending upon the planets, of a special destiny, something out of the ordinary. This aspect has been called an aspect of "fate". This is actually true, but let’s agree on what we mean by "fate" first.

What is fate? "A fickle finger.” Fate is simply an event that is determined to happen, no matter what you do. Fate is usually a rather meaningful event in your life. Twenty percent of anybody's life is fated. Eighty percent is free choice. We all have fated events. Fate is normally linked with karmic consequence. (This is not a sacrifice. On a developmental basis, one of the main things with inconjuncts is the lesson of humility and this tends to imply sacrifice.)

A Septile means that the Soul makes a program wherein throughout its life there will be, on a cyclic basis, the famous "y" in the road, and at key points in one's life, fate prevails, meaning that circumstances will be manifested in which the very nature of the circumstances point out the right direction to go.

The value of understanding the fated quality of this aspect would be that when you see a transiting planet affecting either one of these planets, you can expect something. In an opposition, the fated event that pointed to the turn in the road tends to oppose what the person thought was going to happen.. Normally what happens is that the opposing force is stronger than the will of the individual so they tend, relative to fate, to take the right direction even though it opposes what they thought they wanted. Karma is different. When those karmic debts and/or fruitions come due, that equals a fated event.

Here is the biseptile -102 degrees and some odd minutes. This is the externalization of the septile - that special destiny - similarly, in the first quarter phase, there is a sense of social destiny being how linked with that first quarter phase. The person, will be tempted to link what their individual directions are with the conceptual framework that this is something special, something that I am trying to do that is special. Linked with the concept of fate which the biseptile carries forth, if I am dealing with Mars/Venus as my example, then I am fated to experience varied key people throughout my life that will have an intimate connection to me, special lovers. People who themselves are outside the ordinary, the status quo, who have a sense of special destiny about them, people who encourage me to develop, people I encourage to develop themselves, at minimum, a mutual respect for independence. The frustration in this phase is not achieving or actualizing what the special something is sensed to be because of the fear of being reabsorbed back into the past pattern: Thus a person who retains a rebellious stance throughout life, never meaningfully integrating into the society. A fear of entrapment. One evolves through that by realizing that it is a fear because the individuality is guaranteed. That started in the square and not it is being carried forth.

We now have a very interesting aspect called the triseptile. Because this aspect is the final aspect before the gibbous phase opposition, it promotes a clarification of the individual's self-concept. Essential humility.

I would like to clarify my understanding of fate and how it relates to the above quoted aspects. Does fate apply equally to the septile, biseptile, and triseptile? Is the fate inherent in the septile aspect 100% determined and the soul essentially has no choice? I ask this because of the above quoted comment, "Normally what happens is that the opposing force is stronger than the will of the individual so they tend, relative to fate, to take the right direction even though it opposes what they thought they wanted." I'm not sure if the words "normally" and "tend" imply that the soul could choose the unfated direction.

In relation to the quote on the biseptile, is the fate conditioned by the external/social connections or events that the soul will encounter, but the the outcome of these encounters is not conditioned by fate but by the ability of the soul to realize and move beyond the fear associated with actualizing that which it senses/desires?

Is the humility experienced via the triseptile the result of a fated event? For example, trying to actualize something that was fated to never happen whatever the soul tried to do? Or is the humility linked with not being able to actualize that which was felt to be fated?

Thanks and blessings,
Heidi


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Mar 24, 2012, 07:04 AM
Hi Heidi,

"I would like to clarify my understanding of fate and how it relates to the above quoted aspects. Does fate apply equally to the septile, biseptile, and triseptile? Is the fate inherent in the septile aspect 100% determined and the soul essentially has no choice? I ask this because of the above quoted comment, "Normally what happens is that the opposing force is stronger than the will of the individual so they tend, relative to fate, to take the right direction even though it opposes what they thought they wanted." I'm not sure if the words "normally" and "tend" imply that the soul could choose the unfated direction."

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Yes, fate is carried with all three of those aspects. The fated events occur but the Soul of course has a choice whether to embrace the nature of the fated events and move forwards with them, or not.

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"In relation to the quote on the biseptile, is the fate conditioned by the external/social connections or events that the soul will encounter, but the the outcome of these encounters is not conditioned by fate but by the ability of the soul to realize and move beyond the fear associated with actualizing that which it senses/desires?"

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The nature of the fated events is conditioned by the nature of the two planets that are within this aspect. The outcome is based on the choice that the Soul makes: to either move forwards with the nature of the fated events, or not relative sustaining it's fear that it's hard one individuality will somehow be absorbed by moving forwards by the nature of those fated events.

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"Is the humility experienced via the triseptile the result of a fated event? For example, trying to actualize something that was fated to never happen whatever the soul tried to do? Or is the humility linked with not being able to actualize that which was felt to be fated?"

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No, the nature of a trispetile aspect correlates to the Soul learning the essential humility necessary within the context of the Gibbous phase in such a way that the Soul can then actually act upon the nature of the fated events symbolized by the  nature of the two planets in this aspect or not, or the evolutionary need within the Full Phase of actualizing it's purposes through the humility of doing so in the context of what others need from the Soul versus the Soul asserting to others what they need by way of those purposes that are demonstrated by the nature of the two planets in this aspect.

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God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Mar 24, 2012, 07:09 AM
 continuing..............                                                           

                                                           Examples

Jeffrey: Mercury/Venus in a gibbous phase sesquisquare. Moon/Uranus in a last quarter square in the crisis in consciousness archetype. Do you want to play that game?

Audience: We want to play and you're it!

Jeffrey: Let's consider Moon/Saturn in a crescent phase septile. Ask yourself what the archetypal meaning of each symbol is and then synthesize them.

Audience: The Moon/Saturn is establishing your own authority with a cultural context. As you grow up and your parents show you what you limitations are and how to support the status quo....

Jeffrey: It represents that early family conditions that you are born into and the family status quo to which you are exposed which has a large impact on shaping your own sense of personal identity and how you are integrating into that society because of those family conditions.

Audience: Right! Then the crescent phase would probably cause the person to go inward and think about what their limitations are in that society. The struggle to establish your authority and your own identity in society. And then the septile would be that fated aspect, that sense of specialness, so they would be inclined - I'm not sure if they would be clear or confused as to what their own authority is.

Jeffrey: Their authority would be known through counterpoint awareness, i.e. by necessary withdrawing from external authority - the act of withdrawal causing awareness. That sets in motion the septile, the sense of having some special identity to fulfill. But it is a struggle to establish that. So that person, as a Soul program, sets in motion key events or circumstances in their life, the famous y’s in the road, to point them in the right direction That is when the struggle is most intense.


Audience: Is there a set time or number of years or lifetimes that a person has to be in this to start to recognize this?

Jeffrey: Every case is unique. The septile, as an example, can create and set in motion in some the gestation of that awareness that is not necessarily fulfilled - which then could be fulfilled perhaps at the next septile aspect, the biseptile experienced at the 104 degrees point. That could be the actualization of the concrete form that was gestated at the septile in the crescent phase. It could take place when the progressed Moon forms that 104 degrees aspect with Saturn. In this case, the Progressed Moon is going to form its own conjunction at the same time of the Saturn return.

How about Mars/Venus balsamic semi-sextile?

Audience: Wouldn't that aspect give a sort of a pleasant relationship between the two planets. However, it is sort of in its ending phase. It is nearing the end of this and should provide a lot of good, a pleasurable experience. It seems that it isn't going to last very long because it is at the end of that cycle and is getting ready to branch out and go into the new phase which would be the start of the new cycle.

Jeffrey: That's true. So what we have here is a culmination, where that person will attract, as part of their Soul program throughout their life all kinds of intimate connections which aren't necessarily sexualized, but at least intimate, with all kinds of individuals with whom they have had all kinds of prior life dealings with in which something needs to be finally finished. That is a primary theme. That can create the non-longevity factor that you are alluding to. The neat thing about it is that there can be a sense of understanding that that is exactly what has happened, i.e. that when it is finished, it is finished.

So, you are going to have a variety of types impacting on the individual's life who are reflecting what that individual itself has been over many lifetimes. With respect to that individual's own intimate need, if they are meant to be in a long-term thing, what we have found through our work here is that in general such a person tends to be involved in a long-term relationship with another balsamic Mars/Venus type. The bottom line there is that they have already mutated away from the cultural stereotypes and defining principles of how to be in relationships. That being the case, they tend to need to be with someone else who is similarly oriented, i.e. balsamic. They can mould themselves to anyone, but in terms of being with someone with whom there is a fundamental sympatico, it tends to be another Mars/Venus balsamic type and/or that person having a dominant Piscean/Neptunian nature.

Audience: So the polarity - if they were not doing that right would be to try to fit into society's definition of relationships. They would try that and it wouldn't work.

Jeffrey: Right, that is the gibbous polarity. That would mean that they would try out all kinds of different relationships, because the issue of attracting diversity would be the same.

Audience: Is the idea that no matter what phase you are in or what kind of person you are that you will...

Jeffrey: Yes, but the challenge is to integrate the polarity relative to the phase that the two planets themselves are in. The problem is when the person tries to actualize the opposite polarity and integrate the phase, the two planets are within the polarity. That creates massive problems.

How about a Sun/Moon balsamic conjunction?

Audience: It seems like the integration of the life purpose on a daily basis seems too nebulous in this case, so near the end and so permeated with new possibilities that are coming up. I would think there would be a real state of confusion around the life purpose.

Jeffrey: It depends upon the individual. For example, my own brother, with a balsamic Sun/Moon both in Capricorn, with the Moon in the Third House and the Sun in the Fourth House with the midpoint being the Nadir with Neptune rising in Libra. He is a Zen priest in Japan and a recognized authority, Capricorn, because of it. He translated ancient texts, Third House Moon, with respect to common vernacular. That is how he found his purpose. Later on, however he mutated even out of that, because it is a culmination phase. That means that some of these people wear many hats, different identities, that they are culminating/finishing in this life.

Audience: What about beforehand, with your brother? Was he confused before he got or discovered this purpose, or did be just gravitate to it?

Jeffrey: Right. Even before it was fashionable, he was a religious studies major at LIBC down in California and got his credentials in religious studies and went from there to the Zen thing. Then he was apprenticing for a couple of years here.

Audience: So you are saying that there doesn't have to be that confusion.
Jeffrey: Right, it depends upon the evolutionary state.
Audience: So throughout your entire life long life of incarnations, you could have several balsamic Sun/Moons.

Jeffrey: Yes, until you understand why. Because the reverse extreme is for the Sun/Moon purpose to have no understanding of why they were even born. “What am I doing here?” is a common question. And they keep wearing many hats without knowing why they are wearing those hats. You simply have to tell them that the purpose that they are looking for is not an external phenomena, it's a balsamic phase, and it is within. By finding that meaning within, they can be wearing the hat happily for the right reason.

Audience: So they could fall into a gibbous delusion ....
Jeffrey: Right, as though the next hat is what their purpose or meaning is.
Audience: What if the orb is 11 or 12 degrees? It is coming into the conjunction but is not there yet.

Jeffrey: That is exactly what they are going to feel. Not quite there. Just accept it, take it as it is and the frustration attendant to it.

Audience: What if you have balsamic Sun/Moon and then all the other things are in new and crescent?

Jeffrey: As we said in the beginning, the various planetary pairings operate at various rates. Various aspects of your overall nature and various aspects of the evolutionary development.

Audience: The Sun/Moon seems to effect your whole life.

Jeffrey: It is a key issue because it is how one is actualizing one's purpose on a day to day basis. There are no wild cards.
The orbs are the full number of degrees on each side of the aspect. So a conjunction is 10 degrees on each side, an inconjunct is 5 degrees on each side (a total of 10 degrees), etc.

There should not, however, be hard and fast rules about orbs. Do your own thing with it. The arguments over orbs are as old as astrology itself. Let us glorify imperfection and non-precision.

In Townsend, Maryland, a debate was set up between PhD’s, physicists and recognized astrological authorities. The problem that the astrologers bought into was that they simply accepted the scientific argument of cause and effect - and if you accept that argument with respect to astrology, you are looking at static phenomena. The birth chart cannot be static because the individual is not static. It evolves and it evolves differently in each case. Astrologers accepting the precision of cause and effect ended up defusing themselves. The essence of astrology is not cause and effect. So they played right into the scientific delusion. Science is still struggling to try to understand how birth is made from just one cell and yet they are trying to claim they can't answer the question because of the limitation of their own minds. It is the old Buddhist saying, "Out of nothing, there is something". Out of one cell, there is birth. It is mind boggling. Where is the cause and effect? They can't do it.

Audience: I'm a good example of that. I have too wide an orb on my septile, and yet it has operated all my life. So, I just widen the orb.

Jeffrey: That's right. That's empirical proof.

Audience: How do you settle the question of a quincunx and a biquintile with a 1 degree orb and the quincunx has a 5 degree orb? If you have 145 degrees, which is it going to be?

Jeffrey: Take them both and look at the empiricism of the person's life. We don't impose astrological ideas on their realities, we just ask them about their reality. If it tends to reflect the essence of the tri-spetile as contrasted with a quincunx, well…am I going to say you are wrong and I'm right because my idea tells me.... Don't make a scientist out of us.

Audience: If you have a person who has a bi-quintile in the natal chart and they are actualizing that either consciously or unconsciously and really growing and you talk to this person at age 26 and then later, has it moved? In real actualization they are headed toward that inconjunct, and when you talk to them and you hear more inconjunct evidence, it could simply be that it has been that many years since the natal chart and are actually....

Jeffrey: Exactly, life evolves. It is not static. This is the greatest way to debunk all these so-called scientists who try to put down the phenomena of reincarnation. If there wasn't a transmigration of the Soul, why evolve? Why grow? Why be in the process of becoming, for what purpose? Why learn, if it is just one time around? Doesn't it logically, "scientifically", suggest that life itself would be static. You would have a fixed personality forever.

Audience: Especially when you are going to grow old and die and forget it all anyway.

Jeffrey: The best thing to do with scientists who want to argue with you is to turn their own arguments back on them. Then they get reduced to muddle. To the basic statement, "I don't know" and then they revert to their safe little ideas.

Audience: Is there a classic aspect for scientists?

Jeffrey: In our times, it is Gemini or Virgo. Gemini correlates to empiricism. Simply the phenomena of the human mind projecting itself outwards in order to give names to the phenomenal reality of Sagittarius. The human mind makes the boundaries. One step further is that the human mind creates the phenomenological object in space. However, there are also phenomenological objects in space that self-exist. Man created the lectern, did man create the tree?

Mercury in Scorpio/Jupiter in Taurus in full phase?

Audience: Would that be something that has been going along for a long time? It is obviously an opposition and it is maturing in the full phase. The intellectual and data gathering kind of mind is gathering even more to do with communication. And it is coming to a head and there might be tension between the two, but then that tension creates more possibilities of communication and for the intelligence to reach even more expanded levels.

It seems that this person might alternate between periods of having fixed ideas and opinionated kinds of stances with real intuition that penetrates very deeply and hits them hard, emotionally hard. Then they have to scurry back for security, but they are then changed.

Jeffrey: That is true and is this not the natural conflict now between the yin archetypes of Taurus and Scorpio and the yang archetypes of new phase and full phase.

Audience: Could you see this person as a very real philosopher of values?

Jeffrey: Yes, and an independent thinker who very likely confronts itself internally as well as externally.

Audience: I just flashed immediately on Nietzsche. I doubt if he had this chart, but I could see him having this configuration because of his constant questioning and also his concern with values.

Jeffrey: You can count any two pairs of phenomena, including the Ascendant or any other symbol. Right now, we are working with only the key planetary pairs in this class.

This year at Norwac, we are trying to set up a debate between the noted astrological guests of Norwac and an organization of cynics using the rules of debate. It should be interesting. One of our people is Noel Tyl, whose South Node is in Gemini, and he will be on our side. The ruler is Mercury in Capricorn in the Eighth House. When he wants to prove a point, well........ it is always proved by establishing the weakness of the other point. We are also trying to get the wife of Dane Rudhyar, wonderful lady, who has a Tenth House Pluto with Scorpio rising. She has definitely got her trip together. We will ask her to be on the panel too, just to show the power of the feminine in comparison to the male dominance of the scientific delusion. The audience will vote. In Maryland, 70% of the students voted for the astrologers argument over the physicists. When they first walked in the door, it was evenly divided. They took a poll before and after.

The next class on relationships and sexuality is going to be focusing specifically on how to determine, from an astrological point of view, the essential needs of any one person which must be met in total for a relationship to succeed and to present an astrological method, to determine these needs. It is going to be describing how that person is relating to themselves, and thus, how they relate to someone else, focusing on the natural yod between the Second/Twelfth and Seventh Houses, and the impacts on the relationship, as well as linking these ideas to the sexual issue, types of desires, and how they set in motion what one is attracting to herself and how sometimes what one is attracting is not consciously understood by any given individual. It is not going to be composites.

Tonight we will cover the aspect patterns.

It is not uncommon to find in birth charts various aspect patterns and they are fairly easy to observe, but the challenge is to interpret how it is manifested.

                               


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Wendy on Mar 24, 2012, 09:27 AM
Hello Rad and all,

I really love that you have added this thread.  Phases have been the hardest part of astrology for me to incorporate.  And, I had just mentioned to an astrology friend that I wanted to memorize the phases into my brain-bank and the next day you posted.  It seems like so much to memorize and maneuver among all the other components to interpreting a chart EA style.

With that in mind, I created a table with the phases and the correlating aspects, for my own learning and for others if they are interested.  I have the wheel charts from Steve and another from here on the forum, but I needed to see the data without the wheel.

For those interested, here it is.  

Also, I hope to be more active on the forum soon.  I have been working a great deal and will be entering school soon and have more time to dedicate to my love of astrology and the EA paradigm.

Thanks,
Wendy



Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Heidi on Mar 24, 2012, 01:56 PM
Wonderful, thanks Rad!


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Elen on Mar 24, 2012, 04:38 PM
Thank you, Wendy!  Helps to see it that way......

Peace,
elen


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Steve on Mar 24, 2012, 06:25 PM
If it's helpful to anyone, the phase diagrams Wendy referred to are on this message board at
http://schoolofevolutionaryastrology.com/forum/index.php/topic,209.0.html

Steve


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Mar 25, 2012, 07:48 AM
Hi Wendy,

Gosh, sure nice to see you back here.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Mar 25, 2012, 07:49 AM
continuing................

Tonight we will cover the aspect patterns.

It is not uncommon to find in birth charts various aspect patterns and they are fairly easy to observe, but the challenge is to interpret how it is manifested.

                                                           T-Square

This is very common for counseling astrologers to see. First of all, determine the phases of the aspects in the T-Square. Full or gibbous phase opposition, First or Last quarter, crescent or disseminating squares. Sometimes one side will be a crescent and the other side is a last quarter with a gibbous opposition, each of those are archetypes.

T-Square equals creative stress relative to behavioral development and that stress is specifically linked to the very nature of the phases that they take place within. The ability of the person to handle the creative stress in a T-Square and respond to it is determined by the mode - fixed, mutable or cardinal. A mutable T-Square is going to have an inherent ability and/or desire to grow as necessary and a natural facility to adapt to such changes. Clearly, a fixed T-Square is going to be inherently resistant. Any time you deal with fixed energy, as a general principle, it has to get used to something before it acts. This process of getting used to it equals internal compression in the fixed T-Square. The analogy is squeezing an orange to get juice. The getting used to it is usually related to external and/or internal confrontations to the point where they, in the end, have no choice. The cardinal T-Square is extremely adept at becoming enthused at the idea of change, but once they make it, freaking out, and then trying to recover the very thing that they have just ditched and, thus, one step forward, two steps back.

First, use the signs to determine the mode, then you qualify it by the House. For example, if I have a mutable T-square taking place in natural cardinal houses, this is where the art of the astrologer comes in, to synthesize the apparently competitive nature of two archetypes.

The cardinal T-Square has the enthusiasm to initiate change, the essence of cardinal, but the change can then be too much of a change, then they become emotionally insecure because their linkage with the familiar reality of the past has been severed. Then they become insecure and thus attempt to recover the very thing they have just changed. This become the basis of extremely complex and extremely changeable emotions that are not predictable, which not only confuses that person, but anyone else that they happen to be interfacing with. Imagine an individual with a cardinal T-Square with the focus being Mars in Cancer in the Seventh House. On one side of the square, you have a first quarter square to Venus and on the other side you have a first quarter square to Saturn and thus, Saturn and Venus are in opposition.

Audience: Would it be something about crisis in initiating relationships and restriction needing to be exercised in initiating them?

Jeffrey: Yes. That is certainly in place, sort of a push-pull.

Audience: The cardinal problem could be somebody who probably changed the relationship and then freaked out and wanted the relationship back.

Jeffrey: And that can drive the potential lover just batty, can't it? We have competing desires here. On the one hand, the thing is focused on Mars emphasizing the need for independence and freedom and yet it is in the Seventh House - the instinct to complete oneself is through relationships. Right away you have a paradox.

That inherent paradox sets in motion the competing and revolving and utterly unpredictable emotional states, which of themselves determine behavior. It is not the behavior itself, i.e. how they are expressing themselves to their partner, but rather themselves that become utterly changeable. At one moment, they are totally there, totally Cancer (for those who have been the recipient of Cancer energy...... ) but then, the Mars kicks in and now they are withholding the emotions because in the first cycle they had given too much away, Seventh House/Venus in Libra, and had depleted themselves emotionally and thus became uncentered or lost their sense of equilibrium within themselves. So this sets in motion the next cycle, the need to retain. It is going to be an ongoing crisis in action as to how to even be in relationships. Are they going to respond to Tenth House Libra Venus trips, i.e. society providing the clues? Saturn in Aries is reinforcing this, and it is focused on Mars, and they are both first quarter squares, crisis in action.

What kind of sexual issues might you expect here? Beth knows. Would you like to share?

Beth: I just have this theory I'm working on.

Jeffrey: Would you mind sharing that theory?
 
Beth: I would mind sharing that theory. But it is really true.

Jeffrey: Are you going to do your little Scorpio thing here, or are you just going to come on out?

Beth: I'm going to save it for the next….ask about it then.

Jeffrey: Who wants to get on her case? Who would like to expound on this question?

Audience: They would internalize their sexual energy or make love with themselves.

Jeffrey: No. Would not a focus of Mars in the Seventh House create an emotional sense of needing to have their sexual need completed through an external partner?

Audience: I was looking at the Cancer as being more withdrawn.

Jeffrey: That is true. But until that is realized, is not Cancer learning how to do it within self-care, but the delusion of Cancer, almost in all cases, is to seek that security outside. So they are going to feel that the fulfillment of their sexual need is dependent upon a partner. And, yet, because you have this dynamic cardinal square focused on that Mars, this creates the potential of....

Audience: Violence.

Jeffrey: It is not necessarily linked with violence, it could be...

Audience: It could be if the cardinal goes too far and then back and is real sorry about that.

Jeffrey: Yes. That would be a factor relative to the confusion of the partner, i.e. partners who felt that they were being jacked around.

Audience: And then a tremendous feeling of guilt and trying to make it OK.

Jeffrey: With respect to the T-Square, this person is going to have a natural propensity for lots of experience, a source of self-knowledge, Mars, action/reaction. They can get tired of any given mate as a general dynamic and now specific to a sexual dynamic.

This is with respect to the crisis in action. Now whom do I be with? Now whom do I seek? So this can create problems in the existing relationship when the person finds they are sexually attracted to another Seventh House because the cardinal T-square is going to create the impulse to initiate the experience. But the Saturn in the T-square is going to attempt to suppress that attraction while the Venus in Libra says go for it. Venus and Saturn are in opposition. This will distinctly manifest relative to gender.

Audience: Wouldn't one being in a relationship for other reasons such as career or power come into it too?

Jeffrey: Of course.

Audience: If you moved these into the fixed houses, would the experience be more intense? There would be a lot of resistance to the pulls in each direction, but the urge to act would be another issue altogether with respect to repressing the urge to act or resisting the urge to act.

Jeffrey: Yes, it would tend to emphasize the whole paradox because a person in that scenario would tend to resist the impulse to manifest. They would internalize. In the cardinal T-square, there is going to be more of a tendency to act as the impulse occurs.

Audience: What about mutable, and where they are adaptable?

Jeffrey: The mutable would go with the experience as an on-going experience, whereas cardinal would want the experience and then freak out and try to recover what it lost.

Audience: I get it. You are a success.

Jeffrey: Hey, minor victories.

Audience: So, how would you go about counseling someone in this situation?

Jeffrey: Well, first of all you would want to discuss with them why they set up circumstances that they then go about undermining or unraveling and how that effect itself creates insecurity. Knowing why they are doing that is a piece of self-knowledge, and until they have that kind of knowledge, the pattern will be sustained. In the area of relationships, you want to talk to them about what all of their essential needs are so you eliminate the emotional paradox. This will invariably attract mates who only embody some of the needs, but not all of them (the passing attraction.) How can the passing attraction possibly represent all of their essential needs? Once they make a desire, Mars, to have a total relationship, which is another whole issue, they could, at a personality level, say, "Yeah, I want that relationship." But at a Soul or subconscious level, it could be the reverse truth, which is the source of the self-undermining. So first they have to come to grips with what they want. Do they want a revolving door kind of situation in their life? Or do they want to make that fundamental commitment? If, so, here is what you need.

Audience: When people come to you, do they often feel that they are trapped in their patterns, and that there is no way out?

Jeffrey: Yes, unfortunately, that’s generally what I attract.

Audience: So you don't tell them they are doomed, do you? Yes, you are trapped.

Jeffrey: There is no way out.

Audience: Is that why you were complaining about the fact that your clients don't always do what you say, hardly ever do what you tell them to do? Is it a difficult thing to do because you attract people who...

Jeffrey: I tend to attract very compulsive people.

Audience: Gee, here we are everybody! Compulsive support group!

Jeffrey: Pluto aspects everything in my chart, so, surprise, surprise. And I'm delivering them inconjunct messages, Pluto inconjunct Uranus. I'm asking them, in most cases, to make fundamental changes and to have faith. Now, the ones who tend to follow the suggestions and do change their reality are very happy later, when they see it all works.

The polarity point will generate a lot of conflicts and collisions of will over authority issues. Who is going to define who, and who is going to play what role, and who is going to wear the pants and all those things. Even down to basic habits and rhythm patterns on a daily basis, Cancer. This one will generate the kind of conflict such as who puts the cap on the toothpaste and who doesn't, and then make it a big issue.

Audience: So the First House is what is lacking in that person. What is missing?

Jeffrey: It is not so much described as lacking as it becomes a relief point to create integration of the T-square. People without fail, I don't care who it is, gravitate to that place.

Audience: So the qualities and the sign of the First House have to be stressed in order to find a way out of this dilemma?

Jeffrey: It is instinctively developed. It doesn't even take thought. It just happens.
Audience: But if a person were to consciously develop that as the answer to the integration?

Jeffrey: Right, because until it is consciously developed, it creates another kind of conflict back and forth.

Audience: I looked at a chart with a T-square and then the polarity point of the focus point of the T-square had a Yod. The behavior that I could figure out was that they were going from one part of the Yod to the other part of the Yod and being very angry with one and then the other.

Jeffrey: So then the question becomes why did they decide to be born with that pattern. What is the evolutionary intent?

Audience: Do people understand these things when you ask them?

Jeffrey: The people who ask the questions in that way will. But there are a lot of ways to find the same point that they can take in.

Audience: Is the T-square the most common pattern because the person is in enough turmoil to seek out some feedback, or is it because it is the most typical aspect?

Jeffrey: It is because they get weary of the struggle, and in this culture one of the conditioning patterns is to not seek out alternative counseling in terms of the status quo, so you tend to get these folks at the end of their rope. You are sort of the court of last resort, so to speak. By that time, they are ready to hear it.

                                                  GRAND TRINE

This will come your way, but not so commonly. The neat thing is that there is not a lot of developmental stress. The Grand Trines tend to promote an intrinsic ability to integrate the various planetary function/parts of that Grand Trine in such a way that it become the foundation of their life because it is so easy to integrate and understand. Evolutionarily speaking, there is a reason for that Grand Trine.

Determine what mode, air, fire, etc., it is and then they will manifest it relative to that archetype. If you have an air grand trine, that person is going to manifest an ongoing curiosity about life itself, as a boredom factor; yet, because of the grand trine, they have an inherent understanding of what to do because of that boredom and thus not making rash or impulsive decisions that the T-square could make and then be sorry for.

With the earth and/or water grand trines, these are the folks who tend to want to get to a certain level of growth or understanding and then try to maintain it, let it become their operative status quo. It works. And because there is no creative stress, it is easy to maintain, easy to resist any additional growth and to maintain that bottom line. In other words, there can be an inherent inertia in the earth and water grand trines. But, then, evolutionarily speaking, there is going to be a reason for that.

                                                   GRAND CROSS

This is, in our view, the most problematic configuration. Two T-squares make a Grand Cross. And the most problematic one within that is the fixed one. This is what I call the walking time bomb because all these planets are involved in a tremendous level of creative stress relative to behavioral development. They are perpetually experiencing cycles of stagnation leading to metamorphosis, leading to complacency, leading to more cycles of growth which are resisted. The impulses for growth are resisted in the fixed Grand Cross. This creates the walking time bomb, because they cannot be forever resisted. The Grand Cross will make it happen. When the bomb goes off we have an explosion, and there is no choice but to change.

A case in point would be an individual who had energy in the Twelfth and Sixth and Tenth and Fourth. Part of it is taking place in a cardinal archetype and part in a mutable one, but with fixed planets. So the initial response is to resist. That resistance will invariably lead to more of a catatonic reaction and a total disengagement from their reality which then promotes relative to internal compression and to disengagement, the seeds of what must change the thoughts, the awareness which then translates into plotting strategies, at least inwardly and silently - not expressed to anyone, of how to make that change which is gestating in the greenhouse within. This finally manifests, if not acted upon at the right time, as an explosion. This destroys things in order to make new things. On the other hand, if the person implements thoughts and awareness as necessary, the explosion can be blunted and it can be a controlled explosion.

Audience: When the fixed Grand Cross is also in fixed houses?

Jeffrey: Ah!

Audience: I have heard that a person with this configuration can become very famous because of the pressures involved. In cardinal signs, they might have to ability to get out there and do something and the stress behind it would be helpful.

Jeffrey: That would only be true if the issue of change is part of their evolutionary necessity. Part of their Soul program. It is not an absolute.

Contrast this with the mutable Grand Cross. This is going to be an individual quite contrary to the fixed. This is a person who wants no limits, no corrals, and no saddles. One who is always pointed and aware of the next horizon, the lure and its promise, and wants the freedom to move into it. One who has chosen, as a Soul, to effect maximum possible growth that is humanly possible. The Soul knows that. It has made that program and thus it can become incredibly resistant to the Grand Cross, to any restrictions. Let's imagine we are dealing with an inherently alienated Soul, from birth, alienated from culture. Can you see how this can become self-defeating, i.e. somehow creating the delusion that if I integrate into the system, I lose myself. So, as in all things, it depends upon how it is responded to. There are no absolute manifestations of this. The archetype is the same, of course.

Audience: What is the ideal response for the fixed cross?

Jeffrey: That change is necessary - to have cycles of stability leading to cycles of metamorphosis leading to cycles of stability, and to leave the resistance out of that. That is fairly impossible, however, because fixed is fixed.

The thing that we explained about the cardinal mode is doubly emphasized in a grand cross in a cardinal mode. The only time you can really mitigate the cardinal mode is when most of that energy is being focused through the natural fixed houses. That would tend to create forethought prior to the impulsive action. Cardinal can suddenly get so far a field and then suddenly become aware and freak out. The mutable there would tend to create the ability to understand the nature of the experience even if they did go too far a field. The emotional damage would not be that severe. Keep in mind, also, that the mutable emphasized the intuitive, so they would tend to have an intuitive awareness of what to implement or initiate and what not to.

                                                           YOD

This is another very problematic pattern, the double inconjunct linked with the sextile. This was originally called a "Finger of God". This implies a feeling of destiny; a trusting of the intuition so that when you come to the “y” in the road you would know which way to go. The deeper issue is that commonly people with this pattern experience tremendous frustration. The yod promotes a knowing, a vision, an awareness from on high that is not necessarily consciously defined. It is like a telephone line inconjunct to God and receiving message that somehow seen utterly unrelated to your current circumstances or reality which then sets in motion this tremendous level of analysis in which you are now focusing on all the imperfections and lacks of your reality contrasted now with this vision from on high. So life always seems somehow less than right. It either leads to perpetual or transitory bitchiness, complaints, something's always wrong, or making crises where none need to exist. It can lead into negative self-concepts because, in their own evaluation, they cannot actualize the vision from on high. The inconiuncts focus on the issue of humility, personal and social limitations. The person is now analyzing themselves mercilessly and now comparing themselves, full phase/gibbous phase, to the authority on high. Of course they are going to seem less than adequate. So they never feel quite ready to implement or actualize the vision from on high. It is always held in the head.

Audience: Since the yod contains stress, what is the relief?

Jeffrey: It creates a really highly tuned electrical system because it is so tight. The midpoint in the sextile/opposition point of the focus of the yod is called the boomerang point.

Audience: What does that do? Does it bring in more information from on high or does it....... ?

Jeffrey: The boomerang point, of itself, is never activated unless there is a planet at that midpoint, thus creating an opposition. If there is, then there is a natural coming and going, coming and going.

Audience: What if that is a person? Venus? As sort of the symbol of whom you choose to be with?

Jeffrey: Well, you can draw a partner who keeps throwing your shit back at you. Or they mirror your shit. At the same time, they can mirror your potential, and yet you are experiencing the frustration of not being able to achieve it.

Audience: It seems that the planet on the ends of those two inconjuncts is doubly stressed.

Jeffrey: Yes, but where that planet is manifesting by House and Sign is exactly the area where this vision on high is meant to be expressed. That is the point. Through that function or area. So, the solution of the yod is to realize that the path to perfection simply occurs through action, one step at a time. Clearly, this kind of pattern is emphasizing the evolutionary necessity for humility from an egocentric point of view.

Audience: So you are listening to God instead of yourself.

Jeffrey: Yes. What you are actually trying to do, from another point of view, is to shift the very center of gravity in your consciousness and that means in this kind of culture from the left brain to the right brain, from deductive logic to inductive logic, from empirical to intuitive.

Audience: If you have a septile instead of a sextile, is it still a yod?

Jeffrey: Technically, no. But, in the way I do astrology, yes. Technically, the answer is no, in reality, the answer is yes. The origin of boredom is God.

Audience: He wants you to be dissatisfied.

Jeffrey: God is not a he.
Audience: She wants you to be dissatisfied.

Jeffrey: God is not a she.

                                                MYSTIC RECTANGLE

Two oppositions, two trines, and two sextiles. God knows why it is called the mystical rectangle. With respect to the oppositions, we have a lot of creative stress, but with the trines and sextiles, you thus have the ability to understand the nature of such creative stress and the ability to integrate it relative to making the efforts necessary to accomplish the growth required of the opposing forces.

Audience: It seems like someone who could do a lot of some particular activity relative to the oppositions and sextiles and then they could absolutely change their reality - from ditch digger to architect and make a creative difference.

Jeffrey: That's true. In fact, my brother is a case of this. At one point he is a Zen priest for five years, then he becomes a drug dealer, and then a craftsperson on Maui making bamboo crafts and becoming president of the craft guild.

Audience: You have the sextiles that can make the transition between the two and then you have the trines that can synthesize a bunch of talents and the oppositions bringing in the creative stress.

Jeffrey: That is actually why it is probably called the mystic rectangle because this person has some sort of mystical ability to integrate and understand the massive chaos and stress.

The point of this yod example is Uranus in the Sixth House in Pisces, one inconjunct is Neptune in Leo in the Eleventh House and the other is Jupiter/Moon in Libra in the First House. This person is in their sixties. Newly individuated evolutionary station, male, white, middle class values.

(How many are aware that all the building blocks for organic life were discovered on one of Saturn's moons, Titan, by the Voyager - just too cold to ignite - like earth before it had an atmosphere?)

Is this not clearly a case in which one of the deepest lessons that this particular person has chosen for himself is to rebel, Uranus, against all conditioning patterns. Yet, in rebelling against these conditioning patterns, are they not going to generate a Sixth House crisis relative to perceived obligations and duties, Sixth House? They are going to be the receiver or receptor of voices, or knowledge or information or thoughts from on high that simply manifest in their consciousness of their own volition, not a product of Sixth House analysis. We not only have the Piscean thing implicated, the Sixth House, Uranus, and the yod, but we also have Neptune as part of the equation, Jupiter linked with the Moon. The whole lessons is too transfer into the intuition and thus learn how to trust, Moon, the messages, communications and such that come to them. It means to open up their relationship dynamics to now experience on equal terms a relationship. This is part of the deconditioning pattern itself, deconditioning from generational norms of how to be in relationships. The man is 60 and speaks for itself. It also suggests that the gentleman is trying to integrate his own anima/animus as a form of deconditioning from cultural norms of how to be a male. This can potentially create confusion.

Audience: Did you say that this man was born out of generation?

Jeffrey: Of course. He would be someone who wouldn't fit with the status quo, Sixth House Uranus, and might feel alienated from his environment, deep within himself. They wouldn't be able to understand him and he wouldn't understand why they don't understand him. However, he will know how to project himself through Libra - so most people aren't going to understand the deep inner turmoil that is going on.

Audience: Do you ever see in a chart where relationships are not to be as equals?

Jeffrey: Of course. Keep in mind that astrology reflects life and if everybody had an absolute need to be in relationships as equals, we would certainly have a different planet, wouldn't we? Despite your playboys and playgirls, people are still doing traditional trips in relationships. That is reality. On the other hand, there is an increase in the gay population.

Audience: Vis a vis the lessons of humility around the Sixth House, is it possible that the Neptune is trying to dissolve some of that Leo egocentricity?

Jeffrey: Yes, relative to mental equations. This is an individual who has felt absolutely intellectually superior for many lifetimes. He could out-argue the best arguer. But what has happened in this life is that all the famous arguments are collapsing into absolute meaningless confusion. One of the liberation points of the Sixth House Uranus is to be liberated from false intellectual arguments or superiorities and the egocentricity associated with the mental process. It is not that the person is not adept intellectually; it is the association with the intellect that is suspect. A "look at me" attitude.

Audience: With Uranus in Pisces, do you think that underneath all that confusion and need to change is the need to spiritualize?

Jeffrey: Sure. But, at this point in time, it is associated with moving into the individuated state through a progressive rebellion against status quo answers. It is a progressive rebellion against the status quo and moving the person in an accelerated fashion into the individuated state, where they begin to rebel progressively and that is his form of spiritualizing at this point relative to the reported evolutionary condition. We are not going to be advocating a full-blown spiritual path. We would be much more recommending strategies of reading, i.e. "Tao of Physics" or "The Optimum Project", stuff that his mind can deal or grapple with, or Krishnamurti material because Krishnamurti will out-argue this man. You need to promote his need to interface with more powerful intellects than himself. That induces the humility.

Audience: This it an actual human being here?

Jeffrey: Judith apparently knows the fellow.

Audience: My question is with Uranus in the Sixth House, what does he do?

Jeffrey: Right now, he is a stock-broker and involved in putting together financial deals which involve a number of different companies and individuals - real complex financial deals. But he is an engineer by education. He is a lover of the arts, Libra stuff.

Audience: Would the Sixth House Pisces represent kind of a synthesis thing? Brings together lots of people. Does this person belong to any kind of organizations that are spiritually related or religiously related?

Jeffrey: No. Just me.

Audience: Is there such a thing as a grand sextile?

Jeffrey: Yes. But only people in their 42s and 61s, 62s. But be sure to pay attention to the phases when you synthesize all those sextiles.

Thank you, Jeff.

                                           






Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Mar 26, 2012, 08:23 AM
Hi All,

This next posting is about planetary aspects that has been condensed by Adina Mather from the old message board.

                                         ASPECTS BETWEEN PLANETS AND ANGLES

                                       Sun Conjunct Ascendant

(Q): I have a question about charts in which the Sun is in exact conjunction to the Ascendant. Evolutionary conditions notwithstanding, what is the intent for an individual who is born literally at sunrise with the Sun split at the horizon? Also, in a composite chart, what does it mean when one of the individuals involved in the composite chart has a natal Sun that lies on the Ascendant of that composite chart?

(A): It depends on whether the Sun is in the first or the 12th house. In the first house, it is emphasizing the evolutionary necessity of a current life purpose defined by a brand new cycle in evolutionary development, which is described through the evolutionary paradigm itself, as well as through the sign that the Ascendant and Sun are in and the house cusp that the sign Leo is on. If it is in the 12th house, it is emphasizing the evolutionary necessity of culminating an entire evolutionary cycle that has come before defined by the evolutionary paradigm itself, the sign on the 12th house cusp and the location of its planetary ruler with aspects. Relative to a composite, the individual who has the Sun on the composite Ascendant will be the individual within the relationship that is focusing on the above archetypes within that relationship.

                                               Uranus and the Moon

(Q): I am very curious on your interpretation of a Moon/Uranus conjunction. What is exactly happening there? It is absolutely amazing to watch this type of person. It is like unconscious "babble" or weird streaming of communication that comes out of these folk. They hold a conversation and while you are trying to understand them, you can't and you wonder if they even understand themselves. What is the evolutionary intent of such souls?

(A): Well, once again, it depends on the actual person. For some, it does correlate to either being highly traumatized in this life, or in other other lives in which the trauma was not resolved and thus recycled into the current life. When this is the case, the best way to really know is thru what are called "blunted" responses to life, not the ongoing babble. A blunted response is one in which the person who is asked very direct questions responds with very few words that are typically mumbled instead of spoken clearly. Those with such trauma either are typically very quiet, or they talk compulsively, as in babble. For others, it's as if their subconscious structure is so attuned to other planes of existence that this itself can produce such an effect.

                                                   Mars square Mercury

(Q) Does Mars in Scorpio in the 8th house square Mercury in Aquarius in 12th indicate prior psychological abuse?

(A): It can, but not always. It can also mean the person himself has been such an abuser thru his own displaced emotions that he then projected on another.

                                               Jupiter and Saturn Aspects

(Q): I'm having trouble with understanding how to interpret a Saturn/Jupiter conjunction, square or opposition in charts. With Saturn defining reality and structure and Jupiter being about intuition, how do these two planets interact with each other? I know that this can apply to Saturn in Sagittarius or the ninth house and Jupiter in Capricorn or the 10th. I also understand that there are many factors and variables, but I am asking just in general. 

(A): Saturn does correlate to the structural nature of one's consciousness, which is defined by Saturn’s house and sign placement plus the aspects to it from other planets, the sign on the 10th house cusp and the location of its planetary ruler with aspects and the house cusp that Capricorn is on. Jupiter correlates to the nature of the 'beliefs' or 'knowledge' that we have created or learned for ourselves which then contribute to the structural nature of consciousness.

The opposition between Saturn and Jupiter would correlate evolutionarily to the need of such a soul to 'throw off' or oppose any beliefs that no longer foster the ongoing evolutionary development of the soul. The square means a cyclic conflict with the existing nature of beliefs that creates a progressive refinement or 'fine tuning' of what is true and not true. The new phase conjunction correlates to a brand new cycle about what to know or believe, and the balsamic conjunction correlates to a culmination of preexisting beliefs or knowledge built up over many recent lifetimes.

                                               Ascendant /Mars Aspects

(Q): I am curious to understand how an aspect to the Ascendant differs from an aspect to Mars (or the Descendent to Venus, etc.).

As an example: my Sun is in a gibbous opposition to Mars and in a disseminating square to my Ascendant (therefore in crescent square to my Descendant). Obviously, Mars and the Ascendant are in different signs, etc. Can you explain how to differentiate the archetypal themes of these two chart features and how to synthesize them?

(A): There is no difference, archetypically, between aspects involving the Ascendant, Mars or Aries, and, similarly, to aspects involving the Descendant, Venus or Libra.

(Q): O.K.That still leaves me with the question of how to interpret aspect configurations involving both points. Until this time I have focused my attention much more on Mars aspects than on Ascendant aspects, as this seemed more fruitful. Still, I want to understand if there would be any valuable information in, say, Mars in a first quarter square to the Ascendant. Would this correlate to a crisis in action within the subjective desire structure of the individual, and emphasize the fear of failure, etc.? How would you interpret any Mars/Ascendant aspect?

(A):  Yes. It correlates to a soul that desires to totally break free from whatever is binding the person to his past and who, therefore, initiates a variety of circumstances/directions in order to discover just what will create that effect--the actualization of the desire itself--thru a process of elimination. The intent is to discover exactly what the most effective way is to accomplish that desire.

                                                 Saturn Squares

(Q):  I'm working on a chart that is one of the most unusual I've ever seen and could use some help. She was born in Los Angeles. She is third stage individuated/first stage spiritual. She has her own counseling practice focused on substance abuse (she's been sober for over fifteen years) and sexual abuse clients. She is also a quietly practicing shaman. She's quite unusual and unique--definitely outside consensus rules--kind and compassionate with a great sense of humor.

She has this huge stellium in Leo in the 11th house: Venus at 11 degrees, Jupiter at 12 and the Sun at 17. Mars, Mercury and Pluto are at 19, 22 and 29 degrees of Virgo, respectively. She has an 18 degree Virgo Ascendant. Saturn is at 14 Scorpio in the 2nd house squaring the planets in Leo, and the Moon is at 11 Taurus in the 8th house opposite the Saturn. The North Node is at 25 Saqittarius in the 4th house. Are some of the dynamics illustrated in these symbols actualizing right work, self-knowledge and finding truth, inner faith deep within? What is the purpose of all those squares and conjunctions, with the one opposition? There are no trines and only one sextile from Neptune in the 2nd to the Mercury/Pluto. I know she's had a lot to overcome, but how would that play out in past life issues brought forward? There are no skipped steps. 

(A): In her case, these squares and the opposition are operating as a continuation of her soul efforts to resist anyone coming into her life, intimately speaking, who is so psychologically and emotionally needy that it has the effect of consuming so much of her time (South Node in the 10th -- time) that it utterly undermines her ongoing need for absolute self-actualization (Leo) because that has happened many times in other lives. Her need this life is to only allow someone in intimately who is already healed (12th house) and self-reliant (Taurus Moon, Saturn in the 2nd) and who simply wants to be with her and is a natural giver like she is. She needs an individual who understands who she naturally is and gives her appropriate feedback to this effect.

In addition, it correlates to ongoing lessons of when to give and when not, whom to give to and whom not, and ongoing lessons in 'listening' in such a way as to objectively identify the reality of another as it exists for them and to then give accordingly. Within all this, the need is to continue her inner integration of the animus/anima into an equal inner whole, and, of course, the ongoing need to 'objectify' the nature of her own traumas: i.e., asking why she needed to create this or that or whatever. This is to finally purge the residual of victimization and thus to own her own inner dynamics that have been responsible for this trauma or that.

                                      Planets Conjunct the Equator

(Q): When a soul has a planet conjunct the equator, that is an emphasized archetype in their consciousness. In cases where there is more than one planet conjunct the equator, would the 'emphasis' lose its effect because there is more than one?

(A):  No. It is increased relative to how many planets there are.

(Q): Or do you blend the archetypes of those planets?

(A): The blending occurs in and of itself because whatever planets are there are all operating equally and simultaneously.

(Q): In the case of more than one planet conjunct the equator, would a personal planet play a bigger role?

(A): No. The roles are equal.    

                                       Planets Aspecting Stelliums

(Q): When there is a huge stellium of planets in a chart all conjunct within a 10-degree orb and another planet aspects that stellium, there can exist more than one type of aspect, i.e., quintile and square. What is the rule governing this? Does one incorporate both aspects within their analysis?

(A): Yes.

(Q): When a planet aspects this sort of stellium, does the planet's aspected dynamic in equal measure affect all the planetary dynamics held within the stellium, by virtue of the conjunction, regardless of the degree of orb?

(A): Yes.
                                                 Scorpio Stellium

(Q): For a short while I was acquainted with someone who had a very heavy Scorpio and 12th house emphasis in his chart. In addition to the Sun and Mars conjunct in Scorpio in the 12th and Uranus in Scorpio in the 11th, the North Node was also in Scorpio in the 11th. Why would the North Node be in Scorpio if there is already so much energy posited in Scorpio?

(A): The intent in that pattern is for that soul to generate a tremendous amount of confrontation with others so that the actual motivations, agendas, psychology, and essentially where the person is 'coming from' can be exposed. Essentially, this is an extremely narcissistic soul who has expected everyone to serve itself, much like the planets orbit the sun. It correlates to delusions of grandeur fueled by a deep hate of others whom it has felt 'victimized' by. The delusion of feeling persecuted by others thus becomes the inner motivation to 'get back' at the 'persecutors,' and causes the deep narcissism and delusions of egocentric grandeur.

(Q): In terms of objective observation, the person was very controlled and controlling, and was very deceptive and given to manipulation of others. Would the North Node in Scorpio, in such a case as this one, necessarily correlate to a soul who has been on the side of evil for awhile? Am I being overly judgmental to consider a deceptive, controlling, manipulative consciousness one that is also somehow involved with evil?

(A):  I can not answer your question about the evil. I would need more information and/or direct observation of the person in question.

                                     Gemini Stellium in the 12th house

(Q): I remember someone asking you about the meaning of having a collection of planets in Capricorn in the 12th house, and you answered that the native has to accept responsibility for her life and actions and to release feelings of being victimized by life.

I am having trouble seeing how a stellium of planets would function in Gemini in the 12th. In particular, this individual has Sun and Venus in Gemini in the 12th and Mercury in the 12th. Gemini is on the Ascendant and Mercury and Venus are co-dispositors of the chart. Pluto is in Libra in the fourth house, and the South Node is in Taurus in the 11th. Would this person also suffer from a feeling of being victimized by life, and if so, how would this person be meant to free herself from this, given that Gemini is in the 12th? I am having trouble synthesizing the meaning and function of Gemini in this schema.

(A): Astrology operates relative to actual context. It's possible that the individual has that orientation to victimization, but it is not an absolute. It depends on the actual person herself. If you know the person, then you can make the observation necessary. If she is always asking, "Why did this happen to me," that speaks for itself.

    TO BE CONTINUED...........


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Mar 27, 2012, 07:18 AM
continuing........

                                                          MISCELLANEOUS

                                               Aspects to Nodal Axis

(Q): To what extreme can we take the aspect to Nodal Axis rules without involving Pluto? In other words, can we look at a planet square the Nodal Axis along with another planet conjunct the South Node and use the same principles of interpretation even though Pluto is not involved in any aspect to the Nodes?
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(A): The answer is yes.
                                        Planet Squaring Nodes and Influence of Mother

(Q): Noel Tyl in his 7 planetary keys stated that, "....with any planet squaring or conjunct the nodes within a tight orb of two degrees, the influence of the mother is overwhelming in terms of the point configured or the planet configured." Could you please give your assessment of this statement and why it singles out the mother (though it would not be hard to fathom). 

(A): The reason he states this is because of the underlying correlation of the Moon, Cancer, 4th house to our emotional imprinting from birth, and for most of us the mother is the primary agent of such imprinting when we are young. In essence, his statement is very accurate, but from the evolutionary detective point of view we must ask why in each case that a given person has such a signature.

                                                       Retrograde Conjunctions

(Q): I'm looking at a chart of a baby that was born this morning. Uranus and Pallas are conjunct in the 8th house, however, both are retrograde and Pallas has previously passed Uranus and retrograded back over it. Does this change or affect the balsamic conjunction? It would seem that it would give it new phase energy in some way, or is she simply repeating the balsamic conjunction?

(A): It is a balsamic conjunction; that is the imprint of her birth moment.

(Q): Also, since Venus is in the last degree of Leo opposing this conjunction (waning), did she have some illumination in her last life regarding this dynamic, which will be brought to completion this life?

 (A): Yes.
                                            Aspects and Intercepted Signs

Q): When you are figuring aspects and there is an intercepted house, do you count that intercepted sign or not?

(A): Yes.

(Q): For example:  Saturn is at 25 Taurus in the 7th house, aspecting Pluto at 25 Virgo in the 10th with Leo intercepted in the 9th. Is that a square or a trine?

(A): It is a trine.

(Q): And does your answer apply to Progressions and Solar Arcs also?

(A): Yes.
                                                Aspects and Primary Lives

(Q): When planets are in a stellium, should it be considered that only those planets having a ten degree orb between them are in conjunction? Or if planet A is conjunct planet B, which is conjunct planet C, but the orb between plant A and planet C exceeds ten degrees, would planet A be conjunct planet C? How does this apply in determining that a primary life is underway?

For example, Pluto is conjunct the Moon and Mercury, while Mercury and the Moon are conjunct Mars. If the orb between Pluto and Mars is 11 degrees, would this be a primary life?

(A): Yes. When there are conjunctions like that they can bridge to the other planets that are part of that super conjunction, making a defacto aspect even when the planets are not technically within orb. Because of the bridge effect, this Pluto/Mars conjunction indicates a primary life.

(Q): If planet A is opposed to planet B, which is conjunct planet C, and if the orb between planet A and planet C exceeds the ten degrees, would they be considered to be in opposition because of the aspects each of them make to the third body, i.e., planet B?

(A): Yes, again because of the bridge effect.

(Q): Can these types of questions be answered by application of precise rules or should they be answered by using intuition based on observation and correlation, and by these means determine whether or not two given planets are in aspect, i.e., at an intense stage of their phasal relation?

(A): Yes. You can use your intuition relative to observation to also know.

                                                        Phases and Aspects

(Q): What are the sizes of the orbs for the various Pluto aspects within the phases? I know in the natal chart you are using 10 degrees for the major aspects. What about in determining planetary pair phases?

(A): The phase between planets is not dependent on orbs because of specific degrees for the phases: for example, Venus being in a forty five degree aspect would always equal a crescent phase.

(Q) Some of these are only 4 to 6 degrees apart - the orbs must be quite small. I assume there can only be one aspect per planetary pair - am I correct? That is, two planets can't be both inconjunct and triseptile at the same time.

(A): Yes. That is correct.

(Q): Within the phases, let's say two planets are 345 degrees apart. Does this mean they are not in one of the aspects within the phase and are just influenced by the overall qualities of the phase?

(A): Yes, and this is the value of understanding the archetypal foundation of the phase, remembering the specific aspect within the phase then manifests relative to that foundation.

(Q):Does this make the influence less significant than if they are directly aspecting within the phase?

(A): No.

(Q): I assume that the 360 degree (balsamic phase) conjunction is represented by the aspect being between 350 and 360 degrees, and the 0 degree (new phase) conjunction with aspects between 0 and 10 degrees. Is that correct?

(A): Yes.

(Q):  In your books you've done a thorough interpretation of Pluto and Uranus aspects. Is there any information available you'd recommend about aspects between other planets, especially Saturn, and the other important planetary pairs you point out in the videos?

(A): Liz Green's book called 'Saturn: A New Look at an Old Devil' is the best source for Saturn information. To be honest, I am just not up on the astrology  literature as I simply don't read astrology books.

(Q): Could you say something about the archetypal meaning of Saturn at 29 degrees Leo in the 9th and a 2nd house with Capricorn on the cusp and Jupiter at 2 degrees Aquarius?

(A): It means to make the inner relationship you have within yourself--one of deep cosmological ponderings relative to the desire to understand the nature of 'truth', and all the knowledge and wisdom that the soul has manifested in other centuries--a vehicle to make a living and to find a specific vehicle like astrology, etc., to do that thru, i.e., a 'system' that can 'organize' all that is floating around in the intuitive head, so to speak.

                                                     Hard aspects

(Q): I have been getting many clients lately who have strong oppositions and squares to Saturn or the Moon and claim that their relationship with Mom or Dad was 'just fine'. When this occurs and there are no 'easy' aspects to the Moon or Saturn, is it possible that the relationship was just fine, or are they covering up the painful truth? Is it possible to have a harmonious relationship when there are only squares and oppositions to these planets?

(A): Yes, it is possible. It all depends on the evolutionary conditions of the parents relative to the child's own evolutionary condition and what the prior life dynamics/stories and background have been.

It is also possible for a person to be in denial (Saturn) of the actual reality of what the early life conditions were. For example, I have Mars and Uranus in opposition, both square the Moon. Yet, the Moon also forms trines to Venus, Mercury, and Jupiter. Until I was 44 I had the same claim about my childhood, the typical Beaver Cleaver response. All was fine. In reality, I was severely sexually abused and then put into an orphanage at the age of six; then returned back to my parents. Until I was 44 'all was fine.' Then thru certain circumstances that cover story came off.

                                                 Lack Of Hard Aspects

(Q): I know the answer to this question is largely dependent upon evolutionary condition and other personal, individual factors, but is there anything general that can be said for those who incarnate with very few hard aspects? For example, I've seen a chart with one square and two oppositions. Why would a soul choose to incarnate into a relatively unchallenged life if the purpose is to grow and evolve? Would it then be through transits and progressions that the evolution would have to occur?

(A): Generally, it means that such a soul is simply taking a relative 'time out' from the necessity of evolution in an accelerated sense. All souls do this from time to time; we all need a break sometimes.

(Q): I still wonder a bit about souls "taking a break," which manifests in a lack of hard aspects in the natal chart. I have always wondered if the soul could just "stay home" for awhile (meaning, not incarnate in human form for a span of time) if it needed rest or repair? Is that ever an option for the soul?

(A): Yes, of course.

(Q): If not, what drives the soul forward to incarnate in human form?

(A): It is an option, but the necessity of being in a time/space reality such as Earth correlates to and creates specific kinds of experiences within the consciousness of the soul that can only occur in such a time/space reality.

                                 Hard and Soft Aspects Between Natal Planets

(Q): I was wondering what you think of the idea that the soft aspects between natal planets really show the same thing as the hard aspects. For example, does Venus sextile Pluto energy work the same as Venus square Pluto?

(A): No, they don't. The archetype, intent, of Pluto aspecting anything is the same: to metamorphose the existing limitations or evolution of the planet being aspected by Pluto. Yet the specific nature of the aspect and the phase it takes place within determines the manifestation and inner orientation and how the intent is carried out. Both volumes of Pluto contain a discussion of aspects. The second volume of Pluto contains a discussion on phases. The video course itself goes into both extensively. Study these.

                                           Influence of an Unaspected Planet

(Q): Do you hold with the idea that unaspected planets in the natal chart tend to have much more influence than if tempered by relationships with other Planets? 

(A): An unaspected planet operates in a Uranian way. The intent of this is to emphasize 'liberation' from existing conditions as symbolized in the house and sign of the unaspected planet. It functions like a 'wild card,' in that it always operates within the consciousness of the person in order to cyclically or continually 'liberate' the person from pre-existing conditioning. Yet, because it is unaspected, it can be hard to 'integrate' what the liberation impulses are that emanate from the nature of the unaspected planet. It is like always hearing a voice in the head that is creating thoughts of this, that or the other, all of which have the intent of freeing up the person from the conditions of her life. It is a background voice in the middle of normal life circumstances.

For many, these impulses are left in the head as possibilities that are never acted upon because there is no way to ground them relative to the perception of existing reality. Others continually act upon them, yet never integrate anything. They just move on from one experience to the next without connecting those experiences. Still others act upon the impulses one at a time; i.e., they act on the ones that begin to repeat over and over, integrate them and then move on. As in all things, it depends on the specific nature of each person.

(Q): Would it follow that transits to the planet would intensify it, moderate it, or both?

(A): Transits magnify the whole thing.

                                         Meaning of Unaspected Planets

(Q): Many books describe the unaspected planet as the spoiled child who acts like a brat. However, I feel that is only one possible expression of it. My feeling is that an unaspected Sun (for example) symbolizes a soul who has gained freedom (by evolutionary intent) from the pull of other parts of the psyche, hence giving it strength. So an unaspected Sun for instance (with no major aspects, that is) symbolizes a very self actualized/realized and self-confident individual whose self-expression and creativity isn't flavored by any other part of his/her psychology and so manifests as more purity of expression. Does this ring true for you at all?

(A): Unaspected planets, including the Sun, operate in a Uranian type of way relative to the archetype of liberation. Since an unaspected planet is unbound by any other aspects or conditions other than the house/sign that it is in, it is 'free' to actualize in a Uranian kind of way. This can be very positive for some and not so wonderful for others because of the lack of aspects to it. Thus the planet that is unaspected can feel 'unbound' or 'ungrounded' from earth; some can seem very unintegrated relative to the planet that is not aspected.

(Q): From an Evolutionary Astrology point of view, would this not signify a soul who has gained a 'strength of spirit' from prior lives that enables them to not be influenced by outside patriarchal conditioning concerning the planet involved?

(A): No, not necessarily. The situation is unique to each individual and his or her context.

(Q): Do you consider a planet with only minor aspects to be unaspected?

(A):  No, I don't.
 
                                                         Unaspected Sun

(Q): Can you explain what the evolutionary intent would be for a natal Sun that makes absolutely no aspects to other planets in the chart?

(A): The archetype for any planet, including the Sun, when there are no aspects, is a Uranian archetype. This means, via the Sun, or any other planet, that the evolutionary intent is to liberate from all prior conditionings, these conditionings being at a subconscious level, i.e., prior life memories that of themselves can condition one's orientation to the current life, as well as conditionings relative to the current society and parents of birth. The intent of such liberation is to arrive back at one's natural self, one's natural laws and who one intrinsically is.

                                                               Planets Alone

(Q): Pluto aspecting nothing indicates that a soul is essentially taking a break from major evolution. Would that be true for other planets sitting alone aspecting nothing? For example: Saturn in Taurus in the 8th sitting all alone in a chart where Pluto is aspecting almost everything else. Is that planet that is alone somehow not fully being a participant in the rest of the chart?

(A): No, not at all. A planet that is unaspected like in your example operates like a 'void of course' planet. Without the burden of aspects, the archetype of that planet is free to operate in a Uranian kind of way, meaning it becomes a potential archetype of 'liberation', especially when that planet is Saturn: to liberate from all previous conditioning of an external and internal nature and thus to be free, relative to natural law or one's own true nature.

                                                       Trines - Easy or Hard

(Q):  I'm a little baffled by trines in a specific chart and would like some feed back on the dynamics being played out. I'm looking at a 42-year-old male, single, musician/artist. He has Pluto in Virgo in the 12th house and Uranus in Leo in the 12th. Pluto trines Venus in Capricorn in the 4th. Neptune in Scorpio in the 3rd house trines the Moon in Pisces in the 7th, which is conjunct the South Node. Saturn and Mars are conjunct in Capricorn in the 5th house.

 What I'm observing is this man has a tendency to fall into relationships where he believes he can help women come to a higher awareness about themselves via sex, but then he ends up being drained by them and all the "nurturing" he gives them is not returned so he ends up feeling used. To me it seems that the trines in his chart are creating a crises within himself regarding relationships. So how does this reflect in his North Node in Virgo in the 1st house? I am amazed at the way this man tends to unconsciously fall into these types of relationships. With his Pluto in the 12th, I held the opinion that this soul was more evolved than others who do not have their Pluto in the 12th. Apparently I'm not clear on the 12th house Pluto.

(A): To me, the man is in a full state of personal delusion about himself concerning his personal belief/motive of wanting to help women achieve a higher state of awareness thru sex. Because of this personal delusion, he experiences being exhausted by the types of women he attracts. This delusion is masking his real motives and agendas, and the 'disillusionment' that occurs is an actual psychological symbol that is trying to get him to see the nature of his own delusions about himself. Unfortunately, the trines allow an 'ease' in maintaining the delusion.

                                               T-square and Life Hardships

(Q1): As far as T-squares go, does the native with this configuration have to fill the empty house to be satisfied in the life? If one is aware of the imbalance and tries in this life to change things, but outer circumstances keep creating blockages, does this relate to their karma? Are there some lives meant to be lived almost as if in a "purgatory phase?" Is this possible? The chart I am looking at contains the following T-square: Saturn in Gemini in the 10th house; the Sun, Mercury, Mars and Pluto all in Virgo in the 1st house; the Moon and Jupiter in Sagittarius in the 4th house.

Would it be correct to interpret the empty 7th house as a need for the person to focus on humanitarian issues or focus releasing their energy through Piscean type occupations (music, film, etc.), making sure to include others in their interaction? (This person has explained she is very dreamy and visionary, but somewhat "out there.") Perhaps this is too simplistic of an analysis, but this person cannot seem to make any headway in her life (Sun square Moon, 1st quarter phase). She seems to be at a permanent block with transiting Pluto currently not assisting her. Anything you can point out to help me in this light would be of great value in assisting her, especially in aspect to the current life's afflictions and work needing to be done.

(A): Briefly, the solution is within the symbols themselves: the T-square. The idea of the 'empty house' or polarity for the planet at the apex of the T-square is, in my opinion, bogus. In this particular case the external blocking circumstances are caused by the person him or herself. It is not just life somehow 'happening' to him or her. The inner cause of the circumstantial blockage is deep guilt and a need to atone for that guilt, which effectively produces the pathology of masochism.

(Q2): From an evolutionary perspective, what advice, what direction, generally, would you give to an individual or the parents of a child with such a difficult aspect such as a T-square? Is the T-square more or less difficult than the yod? 

(A): Talk about the nature of the dynamics that are involved with the T-square, why those dynamics and what can be done about them. It depends on the inner orientation of any given person relative to how a T-square or yod is experienced. There is not one answer.

                                                   The Cross of August 1999

(Q): On August 17 and 18, 1999, there will be a fixed cross involving all the planets, except Pluto, and the nodal axis. 1999 has already had a dramatic overtone due to the numerology of the year. With Mars retrograde in Scorpio opposing Saturn during the spring as well, it seems many changes are on the way individually and collectively. It seems that this rare and dramatic cross in the sky will be a peak state in regard to the intensity. Do you anticipate any particular kind of occurrences and events for this summer?
 
(A) Yes. It will serve as an 'imprint' to set in motion, progressively, increasingly intense earth, economic, political, and disease events that will ultimately shatter the very 'foundations' upon which the consensus world bases its security.

                                      Taurus Planetary Lineup (March 2000)

(Q): I'm sure you have much to say about the upcoming planetary lineup in Taurus, and I hesitate stating my novice opinion in astrological terms, but after all my previous message inferred about the Taurus/Venus archetype and one's inner resources, I cannot help but deeply feel a correlation for the pertinence of that developed archetype in light of the upcoming lineup and its imprint, restating the need to develop our individual self-mastery, to facilitate the conscious integration of our beingness with earth's, to honor not only her consciousness but that part of her that exists dynamically as us, our bodies and the inherent holistic wisdom and knowing that lies within each of us.

I noticed a disseminating square exists between the Sun (within 6 conjuncting planets, which I see symbolically as every creative consciousness on this planet flanked by its resources) with both Uranus and Neptune: the signature of the classic crisis in consciousness. After having personally experienced this extraordinary phenomenon very recently myself, I cannot help but sense the intensity and incredible potential that lies ahead. If humankind can dissolve/decondition from the past and its related present reflective crisis for liberation of the new seed consciousness of holistic integration with planetary consciousness and its rhythms, then what an incredible awakening will begin.

(A): Yes, your statement is right on. The problem is that we are all still living in very 'dense' times in terms of the relative consciousness on the earth now. In the end, these Taurus symbols all refer to the survival of the planet and each person on it. Relative to the imprint of the last Saturn/Uranus conjunction at 28 Sagittarius in 1988, this conjunction of all the Taurus planets will begin to accelerate the mutation now under way within nature and its natural laws due to human activity. It is this fact that is the real 'warning' in this symbolism. The resources of earth and the earth itself must become rebalanced (Venus/Taurus) relative to these natural laws. If not? Hm.





           






                             






Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Mar 28, 2012, 07:52 AM
continuing with the subject of aspects that will include a variety of topics within it such as Pluto conjunct the N.Node, planets is aspect to the Nodes, and so on .....                                             

                                                                      ASPECTS                                 
                                                             Orbs of Different Aspects

(Q): On the Pluto school tapes you stated that you did not want to get into orbs, thus leaving them to each individual astrologer. That sounds fair and logical, but I lack the background now to make an informed determination of the orb for each of the differing aspects. Could I borrow upon your knowledge until I get a few charts under my belt?

(A): In general, the degrees for orbs are as follows: conjunction: 10 degrees; opposition: 10; square: 10; trine: 10; sextile: 4; semi-sextile: 3; novile: 2; quincunx: 5; sesquiquadrate: 5; semi-square: 3; septile: 2; quintile: 3; biseptile: 2.     

(Q): This will also help me with my son's chart: Pluto at 26 Scorpio in the 6th house, North Node at 15 Scorpio in the 5th house conjunct Venus (ruler of the South Node) at 16 Scorpio in the 5th and Jupiter at 19 Scorpio in the 6th. Is the Pluto-North Node conjunction close enough to disregard the polarity point in this case?

(A): Pluto aspects involving a conjunction have an orb of 10 degrees, so in your son's case it means there have already been some recent prior lifetimes working on the Pluto/North Node conjunction and this is the last life in which that will occur for some time.

                                                                  Asteroid Orbs

(Q): Do you use the same orbs for aspects to asteroids as you do with planets?

(A). This is something I am still observing and correlating. I have only been dealing with the asteroids myself for maybe four or five years, so I have not really come to firm conclusions as to the orbs. At this point, I am seeing that maybe five to six degrees relative to major aspects seems to apply.

                                                              Bi-quadrant Point Orb

(Q): Please share the orb for conjunctions to the bi-quadrant point.

(A): I use five degrees.   

                                                   "Off" Oppositions

(Q): Do "off" oppositions have any relevance other than that of a "normal" opposition? By "off" I mean something like, 2nd - 9th house planets being in opposition, rather than in 2nd-8th.

(A):  Yes, the additional archetype to include is the inconjunct because of the opposition occurring thru a naturally inconjunct house relationship.
      
                                                  Orbs and Evolution

(Q1):  A friend of mine suggested that the more evolved a person is, the greater the orb of influence between two planets in the natal chart, because of greater awareness/sensitivity/consciousness of the person, i.e., an orb of ten degrees between two planets in the natal chart of someone in the spiritual stage is felt more strongly than an orbs of ten degrees between the same two planets if the person was in the consensus stage. If so, would that same difference in sensitivity apply to the orb between a natal planet and a transiting one?

(A): No, this is not true at all. The orbs simply correlate to how long a person has been working on any given issue; i.e., ten degrees relative to a square would mean that this would be the first lifetime for a person to work on whatever the two planets/archetypes/dynamics are. Conversely, for example, those same two planets could be in a six degree orb relative to the square. This suggests in evolutionary terms that the person has already been working on those evolutionary issues prior to the current life for at least several lifetimes. As such, it is not 'new' to the person; there would be previous experience and so the orientation and behavior would be different from the person who had the ten degree orb.

(Q2): In relation to your answer to the question above, does this apply to South Node? Would a wide orb conjunction between Jupiter/South Node be someone who has worked on these issues in the past but at a beginning level with a lot more integration needed in future and current lives?

(A): Yes.
                                                    Biseptile Orb

(Q): Could a biseptile aspect work at 5 degrees?

(A): I have seen it work about those degrees, but, as a rule of thumb, in general, two degrees.

(Q): I have the North Node in a close to biseptile aspect to Pluto and Jupiter, with Pluto 109 degrees from the North Node and Jupiter at 106 degrees. With Jupiter it is within orb, but with Pluto it is a bit out of orb.

(A): But Pluto and Jupiter are conjunct, so both will be affected.

(Q): Since the nodes move more slowly than the planets up thru Jupiter, and more quickly than the planets from Saturn on out, is Jupiter in a disseminating phase and Pluto in a first quarter phase?

(A): The motion fluctuates: i.e., the nodes can move anywhere from zero to about 9 minutes a day. Pluto is fairly constant at two minutes per day and Jupiter is around an average of 7 to 8 minutes per day. The phases are reversed from what you said: Pluto is the disseminating phase to the North Node; Jupiter is in the first quarter phase.

                                                Biseptile Sun/Moon

(Q): A 4th house Moon at 9 Capricorn 16 is 100 degrees 15 minutes from a 12th house Sun at 29 Virgo 01 and falls within the 2.5 degree orb for the biseptile, yet is only 15 minutes away from the orb of the first quarter square. Will this person experience the influence of both aspects? Will the bi-septile help process the lessons learned from the square?

(A): Yes. One leads to the other.

(Q) With an 11th Mars at 17 Leo 34 being 141 degrees and 42 minutes from the Moon, does this person escape the sesquiquadrate phase, or is he still dealing with the dynamics of this aspect, especially with a 12th house Virgo stellium?

(A): Yes.

(Q): Does the biquintile resolve any sesquiquadrate influence on the Mars/Moon? Or is it like being pregnant, you either are sesquiquadrate or not?

(A): Yes, and such symbolism is about right.


                                                 PLANETS CONJUNCT THE SOUTH NODE

                                     Mars and Neptune Conjunct South Node

(Q): What would be the significance of both Neptune and Mars retrograde conjuncting the South Node (direct) in Libra?, Neptune is in the 6th house and the South Node and Mars are in the 5th. Does this signify skipped steps or the reliving of a principle?

(A): This is a relive situation, not skipped steps, although to the person with those symbols it could certainly seem that way.

                                     Planets Conjunct South Node and Saturn Return Release

(Q): You have said that one exception to the "Pluto rules" was: if Pluto is conjunct the South Node (with no other planet conjunct the North Node), the past-life conditions cannot be released until the second Saturn return. Is this valid for all planets conjunct the South Node? Ulrich gave me an interpretation of my natal chart in 1997 (My Saturn is conjunct the South Node in Gemini in the 8th house, and I have no planets conjunct the North Node in Sagittarius in the 2nd. My Aries Sun in the 5th squares the nodal axis. Pluto is in Libra in the 11th). He told me that my past-life conditions will be released with the first Saturn return. On the other hand, he told me that his own past-life conditions cannot be released until the second Saturn return (Mercury conjunct the South Node and no planets conjunct the North Node).

Does the release of past-life conditions at the second Saturn return apply only when Pluto is conjunct the South Node, or does this rule also apply to any other planet that is conjunct the South Node? If it is also valid for every planet, does it mean that the second Saturn return only refers to this planet (in sign and house), so other things can be released with the first Saturn return?

(A): Yes. When a planet--any planet, including Pluto--is conjunct the South Node without a planet being conjunct the North Node, then the release point is the second Saturn return for those specific conditions. The first Saturn return, in general, defines a time in which most folks become aware that they have not prepared for the current life purposes, which is why it is so difficult for so many. For those who have prepared, the first Saturn return can be a very important and positive time because it correlates to a time in which that preparation is given actual form or reality. For example, I received my first professional astrological opportunity when Saturn returned to itself--to the very day!

                                        South Node Conjunctions and Relive Conditions

(Q): Since planets conjunct the South Node denote a state of reliving past-life conditions with regard to the planet(s) conjunct the node, along with the sign and house they all occupy, is there any kind of proactive response or mindset that one can take during the relive condition so as to relieve, and evolve beyond ensuing frustrations? Can one actively work to evolve within the "relive" condition, or is evolution in some way "postponed" until the relive condition is complete upon the second Saturn return?

If proactive work can be done, how does the astrologer identify it? Would it be in the polarity of the planets on the South Node, or the polarity of the planet that rules the South Node and its conjoining planets, or the North Node itself and its ruler?

(A): Relative to relive conditions, the 'evolution' occurs by the Soul recreating circumstances in this life that 'trigger' old patterns, dynamics, and responses; thus the solution is within the symbols themselves, which means to make 'new' choices in the context of old dynamics, patterns, etc. that are being triggered. Remember that any sign, planet or house is a whole archetype that has a spectrum of possibilities within it, so the solution lies within the symbols themselves.

(Q): Am I correct in presuming that any planet that conjuncts the South Node denotes an area in which the soul has resisted evolution in prior lifetimes? 

(A): Yes, a planet on the South Node can mean a total resistance to the evolutionary intent, but that is just one possibility. It can also indicate the state of consciousness that the individual 'died' with in the very last life; for example, Mars on the South Node can mean dying in a state of total anger or rage, which is unresolved. The soul then comes into the next life with that rage, anger, intrinsic to the individual's consciousness. So in this life, the Soul creates circumstances that will trigger that anger and rage and and the evolutionary need to 'work that out' via the choices that the Soul makes.

                                               Planets Conjunct South Node and Evolution

(Q): When a planet(s) besides Pluto is conjunct the South Node in a chart, does that mean that the person is blocked from experiencing the lessons of the North Node until the second Saturn return, or is it only the case when Pluto is conjunct the South Node? (I am keeping in mind that the second Saturn return rule is not in effect if there are planets aspecting the North Node).

(A): Remember when a planet(s) conjuncts the South Node, not just Pluto, that one of three possible karmic/evolutionary conditions exist:

1. A total reliving of the prior life conditions in this life.

2. A karmic/evolutionary condition of 'fruition', which means that the dynamics symbolized by the house/sign/planet(s) in that condition have been thoroughly developed relative to a right motivation and that those dynamics are now in a state of total fruition and/or maturity and are meant to be given or shared in some way in the context of the person's life. This still creates a 'defacto' sense of being stuck or living in the past for the person because they have been 'doing that' for a long time and want to be doing something else. Yet, thru karmic cause or evolutionary necessity they are being asked to share the fruits of what they themselves had learned with others.

3. A combination of both of the first two conditions. This third situation is by far the most common; the first two relatively extreme.

                                          Planets Conjunct North and South Nodes

(Q1): I just got a client with numerous personal planets conjunct the South Node in the 10th and am confused. The South Node is at 17 Aquarius forming a stellium with the MC at 18 Aquarius, Mercury at 19 Aquarius, Jupiter at 25 and Mars at 26 Aquarius. The Sun, Chiron and Venus are conjunct in Pisces in the 10th also. These are all opposite the North Node at 17 Leo, conjunct the IC,and Uranus at 27 Leo in the 4th (just past the ten degree orb) and Pluto at 8 Virgo in the 4th. Neptune is at 13 Scorpio in the 6th squaring the nodes. The Ascendant is 8 Gemini and the Moon is in Aries in 11th. The polarity point of Pluto is the tenth house, but it would appear that this woman is being asked to go deeply within. Any clarity would be very welcome!

(A): This signature is one of a soul who has been highly traumatized in numerous ways, mainly thru intense persecution and false judgments by society, parents, and intimate others, for being that which she naturally is. These traumas have been suppressed previous to this life and the core intention is to access those unresolved traumas, which is the reason that her soul needed to create them and thus accept the responsibility for her own actions. In this way she can open up the emotional body and access emotion as emotion. Personal growth and liberation then occurs. As this unfolds, she needs to choose work that allows her to help others who have be traumatized in the very ways that she has, which then allows for additional healing thru vicarious association.

(Q2): I'm very curious as to the nature of this arrangement because of the fact that I also have the Sun conjunct the South Node in the 10th opposite Pluto conjunct the North Node in the 4th, with no polarity. I have felt that it is a continual reinforcement of self-reliance at the deepest level (Pluto 4th) so as to purge the ego of any desire to associate with societal standards (10th) of value systems, fame, etc. To self-realize (Sun) in this way would be going against the urge of the soul to evolve from natural law unfolding from within. I'm not sure this is a definite, but it seems like a signature of fame in the past at the expense of the self so that now the soul is desiring meaning from self-transformative experience germinating from the core level of the soul (Pluto in the 4th) as a vehicle towards self-actualization into the future (North Node).

(A): Yes, you are correct. But it also means to allow yourself to be open to others who seem to just manifest into your personal reality, others who are seeking out guidance of the very nature of your own reality, which is to liberate from all that that is unnatural, and to help such others to find their own inner power to rebel just as you have. This then honors the Sun on your South Node.

                                               Multiple Planets Conjunct South Node

(Q): You have stated in your Pluto book that when the planet Pluto is conjunct the South Node, three possible evolutionary conditions exist: one of fruition, one of reliving the lessons of the South Node or a combination of both reliving and fruition. My question is when there are multiple planets conjunct the South Node--say Venus and Mars in addition to Pluto--does that make the evolutionary condition of the individual more intense? If in a fruition condition, does that make the individual's destiny even more special or important because of the additional planets? If in a reliving condition, does it make the reliving process that much more intense or prominent in the individual's life? 

(A):Yes to all of your statements.

(Q): Also, would all three planets have different evolutionary conditions themselves in relation to the house and sign of the South Node, or would they all be the same? For example, could Mars be in a fruition state while Venus is in a reliving state and Pluto with both?

(A): Yes, it can be that way.

                                           Condition of Planets Conjunct the South Node

(Q): Is there a way to tell from just the chart what state planets conjunct the South Node are in--relive, fruition, or combination?

(A): No.

(Q): If a planet is in a fruition stage, is that something that is evident to the person all of their life or something that develops?

(A): As the child begins to mature they become progressively aware of this.   

                                                        Uranus on South Node

(Q): When a soul has Uranus on the South Node, they are born with unresolved trauma. If the phase between Uranus and the South Node is a new phase, and the soul has skipped steps involved, would that indicate that the trauma took place in the most recent prior lives? And does this indicate a desire in the soul to regenerate that trauma, relative to the house and sign of Uranus and the South Node, early in the life as a means of enforcing the recovery of those skipped steps?

(A): Yes to it all.

                                   Transiting Pluto Conjunct the South Node

(Q): What happens in general when transiting Pluto conjuncts the South Node?

(A): When Pluto transits the South Node for any person it signals a time of great evolutionary transition wherein the totality of the past comes to a head by way of the soul creating circumstances that progressively trigger all the existing dynamics within the individual. As this occurs, the new evolutionary intent is to make new choices in the face of old circumstances versus making the old choices. If the person is successful in doing that,  the new evolutionary cycle can begin and bring forth circumstances that allow the person to not only heal and fully understand the past that has come to a point of culmination, but also circumstances that allow the person to really grow in a very accelerated fashion.

to be continued .............


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Mar 29, 2012, 08:37 AM
continuing ..........

                                                  PLANETS CONJUNCT THE NORTH NODE

                                         Conjunctions to Pluto Conjunct the North Node

(Q): If Pluto is conjunct the North Node and is also conjunct another planet (e.g., Jupiter), does Jupiter's polarity point still apply?

(A): No.

                                        Pluto Conjunct the North Node and Pluto's Polarity Point

(Q): Does the polarity point of Pluto apply when Pluto is conjunct the North Node?

(A): When Pluto is conjunct the North Node in any chart it means that the soul has already been working towards that area of evolution prior to the current life and, as a result, the soul is meant to continue in that area. The polarity point of Pluto does not apply in these cases. The whole chart, including the South Node and its planetary ruler, come thru that North Node/Pluto conjunction. It's the bottom line thru which the entire chart/person is integrated.

                                 North Node/Pluto Conjunct in Scorpio in the 12th

(Q): You stated that when the North Node is conjunct Pluto "the whole chart including the South Node and its planetary ruler come thru that North Node/Pluto conjunction. It's the bottom line thru which the entire chart/person is integrated." If the North Node is conjunct Pluto in Scorpio in the first house, are we looking at extreme dissolution and transformation--a major wrap-n-pack lifetime and real possibility of ascension for this one?

(A): Yes, that's possible, but there is no "ascension." There is a progressive expansion and union with the totality of the creation: God/dess.

                                      Pluto and North Node of Moon

(Q): I'm using the following chart as practice for the correspondence school homework: June 12, 1944; 12:32pm EWT; Kalamazoo, MI. I'm puzzled and would appreciate any remarks. Pluto is at 7 degrees of Leo in the 11th house and the North Node is at 29.5 degrees of Cancer in the 11th. Do you consider this to be a conjunction?

(A): Yes, that is a Pluto/North Node conjunction. Thus, the whole chart comes thru it, including the South Node and its ruler.

(Q): The polarity point of Pluto is 7 degrees of Aquarius in the 5th house. Should I pay attention to this polarity? It seems to have meaning since the ruler of Pluto in Leo is the Sun at 21 Gemini and the ruler of the North Node is the Moon in Pisces in the 6th. The South Node ruler (Saturn) is at 29 degrees of Gemini in the 10th along with Venus and Uranus. Mars is in Leo in the 12th with Jupiter. There seems to be a lot of shadow for this soul to uncover: that is 'reverse polarity" with Pluto in Leo in the 11th and the Sun in Gemini with 3 other planets, and both buried anger (Mars in 12th) and buried victimization (Jupiter in 12th).

(A):  Given the information you presented, it correlates to a soul that has experienced recent life traumas that have caused the person to feel victimized and through the consciousness of victimization to feel persecuted: "No one understands me, no one pays attention to me." This has caused great internal anger and rage that manifests thru the victimized consciousness and wanting to lash out at others. The lesson is defined by changing the existing question in consciousness from 'why is this happening to me' to 'why have i needed to create this for myself'?

                                                   Pluto/North Node on Cusp

(Q): When Pluto is conjunct the North Node, it reflects a soul who has been working on that area of development and is meant to continue in that area in this life--no polarity point. But if the conjunction falls on a house cusp, where Pluto is in one house and the North Node in the other, does that mean that the soul has been working on the intent of the house where Pluto is located via the North Node activities of the adjoining house? And is the soul meant to continue working on Pluto house activities via the adjoining North Node house dynamics? Which house is more emphasized?

(A): Pluto is the bottom line, the core, so the baseline is the house that Pluto is in. And this baseline then is actualized thru the evolving ego via the house of the North Node. In essence one leads to the other: Pluto to the North Node.

                                                   Planets Near the North Node

(Q): Regarding the nodes of the moon in a chart: as a planet that occupies the same house as the South Node, but does not conjunct it, is said to have been conjunct that node in a prior life, can it be said that a planet that is in the same house as the North node, but not conjunct it, was in a prior life conjunct the North Node?

(A): It depends on whether the node has already passed that planet or not; e.g., the North Node at 15 Gemini in the 10th house with a planet at 3 degrees in the 10th in Gemini would correlate to that node and planet being previously conjuncted in the most recent of prior lives. If the planet were at 26 degrees, then, no, that conjunction did not occur in a prior life but will in the very next life.

                                      Pluto Just Out of Orb to North Node

(Q): I have a client with Pluto at 14 Libra in the 6th house and the North Node at 1 Libra in the 6th. Since this is not a conjunction, how do you interpret this dynamic?

(A): The North Node is just past the conjunction to Pluto in the 6th by 13 degrees. Even though this is not a 'technical' conjunction, if we use the standard of ten degrees, it still means that that person is meant to totally focus his evolutionary intentions thru that sixth house with Pluto and the North Node. To flesh it out, locate Venus in the chart and the aspects to that Venus; this will then become the 'bottom' line of that soul's orientation to this life.

                                 North Node Conjunct Mars Retrograde in Aquarius

(Q1): Is it possible for a North Node in Aquarius (nodes are direct) to indicate being born with unresolved trauma if there is a retrograde planet in tight conjunction to that North Node?

(A): Yes.

(Q1): Would the house ruled by that planet and the aspects it's making indicate the type/source of the trauma?

(A): Yes.

(Q1): In the particular client I have, the North Node is also in the 11th house. By observation, it would seem that this is a possibility for this soul.

(A): You might want to try to question the client about this. One of the 'traumas' could be a thing wherein in recent prior times that any time the client desired to do anything for just herself, to try to creatively actualize, that the client keep receiving the message from the environment, typically starting with one or both parents, that the client was being 'selfish', too self-centered, and all that. This would have had the affect of negating the individual's own inner impulses to creatively actualize in the way that she naturally would. The point here is that when the client tried to break free from this expectation to conform, to actualize according to the environmental message, typically from the parents, this would then cause very heavy duty messages of guilt. Sometimes such a client would have also 'rebelled' in some previous time against these kinds of controlling messages and expectations and when the rebellion occurred, the breaking free from such influences, this could also have caused even more severe 'messages' from the environment or the individuals the client was rebelling against wherein the nature of such messages themselves caused trauma.

(Q1): This is indeed the case with this client, who has Mercury retrograde in Virgo in the 6th

(Q2): My question piggybacks this question about the North Node in Aquarius. Would it be safe to say that those born with the Sun and other planets in Aquarius, or those born with a preponderance of asteroids in Aquarius and/or the 11th house, have incarnated to work on past-life trauma regarding being stymied when trying to creatively actualize? If so, how does one begin to creatively actualize without guilt or fear in the current life? Is it a "just do it" kind of circumstance?
 
(A): Yes, but you need to understand the causes of the fear or guilt and then realize that those things occurred in another time and that they will not occur in this time. Then you apply your will to whatever it is that you feel leads you to creatively actualize.

Rulers of Nodal Axis
                                 Rulers of South and North Nodes Conjunct

(Q): You indicated in the Pluto school tapes that when the planetary rulers of both the South and North Nodes are conjunct, that the future is carried out employing the same venue as in the past but in a new way, indicated by the signature of the conjunction's natal house. However, if Pluto is involved, say as the ruler of the North Node in this conjunction, would that indicate that the "new way" would occur through Pluto's polarity point instead of the natal house?

(A): Yes. It would occur thru the polarity point.

(Q):  If Pluto's polarity point applies, would the conjuncting planet(s) be pulled along with Pluto to manifest there instead of their natal point?

(A): Yes. The polarity point is the key in your question because in this condition the soul will recreate the unresolved dynamics from the past in this life by the very nature of the circumstances it creates. Thus, the 'test' is whether the person makes 'old' choices or 'new' choices relative to the relive. Obviously, the old choices keep the person exactly where they are: no evolution versus the new choices that allow the person to move ahead. The polarity point of Pluto and the planets that are conjunct it correlate to what the new choices must be.

(Q): If the above conjunction crosses over two houses, does Pluto's polarity point reign supreme, or does one treat the natal point of the other conjuncting planet(s) separately, or is it a combination of the two?

(A): Pluto’s polarity point is the key. If two houses are implied via the conjuncting planets to it, relative to the baseline of Pluto’s polarity point, it means that the other house is a dimension that is 'added' onto the polarity point of Pluto in order to accomplish the evolutionary goal of making new choices. Always remember that when we are dealing with polarity points, this does not mean that the natal point is left behind. It does mean that by developing the polarity point, the natal point becomes metamorphosed and begins operating and evolving into a new level of expression and actualization.

(Q): You also stated that when the ruler of the North Node is conjunct the ruler of the South Node it is an indication that the person appears to be from a different time: the past is the future and the future is the past. The example you used was that of a composer who had been doing this work in the past and now composes in a new way. Would this be the signature of someone who has a special destiny to fulfill in this lifetime, relative to the sign and house the conjunction falls in?

(A): Yes.
                                    Rulers of Nodal Axis in Opposition

(Q): What is the effect if the ruler of your North Node and the ruler of your South Node are in exact opposition to each other? What does that do to your destiny?

(A): A lot depends on the nature of the planets themselves and the houses that they are in, as well as other aspects to these two planets. In general, it correlates to a tremendous inner conflict manifesting as two equally strong emotional and psychological forces that are linked to the specific nature of the planets that are opposing each other. This in turn creates an inner tension of fully embracing the total reality or full dimensions within the archetypes involved of those opposing forces manifesting in the houses and archetypes involved; i.e., the South and North Nodes and their houses and signs and the actual houses of the opposing planets. These four points are orientated to in a way that is much like pulling the lever on a pinball machine--bouncing from one to the other, or like a moth getting to close to a flame. These inner oppositions can, of course, manifest or be 'out-pictured' via the nature of the circumstances that the soul creates for itself in order to deal with and ultimately resolve the nature of these conflicts and what can appear or be experienced as 'undercurrents' that try to defeat or undermine the very nature of the resolutions themselves. This occurs in order to determine the strength of the will to persevere at all costs relative to the intent to resolve.

                                              North Node Ruler Conjunct the South Node

(Q): I am working on a chart that has Pluto in Virgo conjunct the North Node in the 8th. The ruler of North Node (Mercury) is conjunct the South Node and Chiron in Pisces in the 2nd. The ruler of the South Node (Neptune) is in Scorpio in the 10th and trines the South Node and the conjunct planets. Past healing work I have done with her has been thematic around coming out of her shell, which has had to be done carefully and slowly as there are many layers of trauma. Her self-containment (she is an Aries Sun, but only by 4 degrees which is on the 3rd house side of cusp by only 1 degree and also a Capricorn ascendant.) seems to be thematic in the chart, but the intention seems to be containment that is not the kind caused by trauma (reclusiveness) but a more inclusive kind that comes from self-security (2nd house), that then allows deeper intimacy and connection. The Mercury comments on both her North Node and Sun and 6th house cusp (Gemini is there). Is that an indication of a relive, or is it energy she can easily draw on in this life and apply in a Virgo/8th house, direct experience kind of way?

(A): Both.

(Q): With Pluto conjunct the North Node and the 2nd house polarity point not applying, what are the South Node conjunction intentions?

(A): To relive unresolved past life conditions in this life.

(Q): She seems to struggle a lot with the Virgo/Pisces axis and is sometimes unable to bring any clarity to the Piscean fog. She also struggles with direction and commitment, especially in the areas of work and her service in the outer world. She makes commitments (8th) to training and then just about at conclusion she doesn’t finish or runs into external confrontation, which makes her question her abilities and throws her back into a diffused Piscean state. Is this also thematic of 2nd/8th and Virgo/Pisces?

(A): Yes, and an underlying issue of even wanting to live.

(Q): Also, transiting Pluto was square that axis and itself and is just about out of orb now. Is part of what I described the intention and manifestation of the 8th house Pluto and Pisces/Virgo axis, as well as the struggle between security and growth and the discernment of what to hold onto and what to let go of, and what to commit to and not also a part of the process of integration?

(A): Yes.

(Q): If so, how does the Mercury relate to this process?

(A): See above.

                                 Ruler of South Node Square Ruler of North Node

(Q) If the ruler of the South Node is conjunct the North Node and square the North Node’s ruler, and the Sun is also conjunct the North Node, am I correct in thinking that this is a "relive" condition because of prior life skipped steps? (Example: North Node in Pisces in the 3rd house conjunct the Sun and Mercury, all of which square Neptune in the 12th house).

(A): Excellent question. No, it is not a 'relive' situation in the sense of skipped steps. It is more a situation where, in this life, the soul is picking up from exactly where it left off. The house/sign, and the aspects to the planetary ruler of the North Node relative to the house/sign/planets on the North Node, reveal exactly where the soul left off in the last life and where it will pick up again in this life. The person is meant to continue in the progressive evolutionary development therein.

                                                            YODS

                                    Planetary Node as Part of Yod

(Q): Since you can use the South Node of the Moon as part of a yod, can you also use the South Node of a planet?

(A): Yes.

(Q): Would a person feel pressured if a transiting planetary South Node formed a challenging aspect or configuration to the natal chart such as a yod, or T-square even if there isn't an actual planet there?

(A): It is important to consider the transiting South Node of a planet when it is making an aspect to a natal point, be it a planet, an angle or a cusp of a house.

(Q): I am also wondering if the progressed planetary nodes have a measurable impact?

(A): Yes, when they are aspecting natal points.

                                           Yods and Potential

(Q): I've heard and/or read different things about the yod. One thing I've read is that this formation contains a very special gift or highly developed aspect that can be freely expressed if the inconjuncts are resolved, but if they are not, then all that has been developed relative to the apex planet is lost. Is there any truth to that, or would this be more dependent on the planets involved and an individual's past development? If Pluto is part of the yod formation either at apex or finger, would the loss of a certain level of development or special talent be more likely?

(A): No, it is not lost. It remains as 'latent' potential. The evolutionary level of development, of course, is critical to how the inconjuncts are manifested. The higher the evolution, the easier it is because the soul is progressively identifying with the Source. It is the issue of the Source, which is behind whatever the special something is and which must be consciously aligned with for the inconjuncts to express themselves in the ways archetypically intended. Essentially, the inconjunct is meant to induce an egocentric humiliation of deflation in the sense of the ego being only identified with itself. If that is the case, then the inconjunct either creates circumstantial blocks that do not allow for an external manifestation of that special something, and/or the person feels 'not ready or good enough' to actualize it.

                                              Interpretation of Yod Aspect

(Q): What is your interpretation of the yod, and how many degrees would you consider as allowed proximity for the planet that is opposing the middle point of the sextile formed by two other planets? Also, if there are other planets in between the sextile, does the yod aspect still apply or not?

(A): It is essentially an archetype of purification relative to two dynamics within the Soul, one of which is egocentric identification with power--ego power--versus the power of God manifesting thru the ego. The other is purification of an ego that does not feel itself ready to do what the Soul, via the inner direction of God, is asking it to do. A planet in opposition to the planet that is at the apex of the yod is an archetype that serves to create experiences of an oppositional nature relative to the house/sign of the apex planet relative to the above two intentions. Thus, it serves as an alignment function.

                                   Question Concerning The Double Yod Aspect

(Q): Recently, my attention has been intensely focused upon the double yod aspects within my own natal chart as well as several other charts that I have seen. My question concerns the nature of how the two planets within the sextile will relate to each other when the apex planets in each Yod are simultaneously part of the sextile engine of the other. For example, in my own case, there is a sextile between Uranus at 7 degrees Libra in the 11th house and Neptune at 0 degrees Sagittarius in the 1st. This forms a Yod focused on Saturn at 4 degrees Taurus in the 7th house. While Saturn becomes the apex planet of this Yod, it is simultaneously part of yet another sextile engine involving the Sun at 7 degrees Pisces in the 4th house. This forms the second Yod which is then focused back upon Uranus in the 11th house.

So, the apex planet Saturn is simultaneously part of the sextile engine focused on Uranus, and Uranus is simultaneously part of the sextile engine focused on Saturn. After giving this a great deal of thought, I have come up with my own intuition about how this particular structure might operate and would like to either validate this idea by those more experienced or have it corrected. I will try to make this as brief as possible.

According to Steven Forrest's lecture on Yods at the first Evolutionary Astrology Conference, the two planets in the sextile aspect of the Yod must first be ignited and each must go through a very specific process before the "high destiny" or "accomplishment" qualities of the Yod can emerge from the lower manifestations of "OCD" (Obsessive-Complsive Disorder). So here is what I have come up with in trying to figure this out.

Whenever there are two or more Yods within a birth chart that demonstrate this sort of "feedback loop" involving these overlapping apex planets, then in order for the higher manifestations to be actualized, there must first be a sequential order in which the sextile engines themselves become ignited through the development of the innermost to outermost apex planets.

For example, before the outermost apex planet (Uranus) can be fully realized, the Yod involving the innermost apex planet (Saturn) must first be developed. This seems to make perfect sense because of the fact that Saturn, being the apex planet of one Yod, is simultaneously part of the sextile engine driving the other Yod. The Yod involving the planet Saturn at its apex would have to be developed before the Yod involving the planet Uranus at its apex. Uranus is beyond the boundaries of Saturn and if we were to actually travel there, we would first have to pass by Saturn on our way. (That is if they were in alignment of course).
 
This is all very hard for me to articulate, and I hope that what I'm saying here is clear. I would very much like to know if what I am saying is actually true from an experienced point of view or if there is really no particular significance to the order in which these configurations develop and evolve.

(A): First, all the planets/aspects/patterns/dynamics operate simultaneously, so it is not a matter of what must come first in order for some other dynamic or aspect to be able to operate. With all operating simultaneously, the real issue first is a person's level of evolution and second, relative to that degree of evolution, what the inner orientation is relative to the whole chart, not to mention specific aspects or patterns within it. One's inner orientation is the determinant of how any given life, chart, is experienced and understood. The archetypal intent of the chart, or specific dynamics and/or aspects within it, will operate or occur no matter what the degree of evolution, understanding/orientation is.




Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Bradley J on Mar 29, 2012, 01:09 PM
Hi Rad,

Question came up - how do we determine aspect phase of planet to ascendant.

Example - say Neptune is 9th at 15 Sag; AC is 15 pisces - first or last quarter?

Any difference for Sun to AC phase determination?

Thanks, wasn't able to find this sifting through.

God Bless


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Mar 30, 2012, 06:53 AM
Hi Rad,

Question came up - how do we determine aspect phase of planet to ascendant.

Example - say Neptune is 9th at 15 Sag; AC is 15 pisces - first or last quarter?

Any difference for Sun to AC phase determination?

Thanks, wasn't able to find this sifting through.

God Bless

Hi Bradley,

The rule of whatever is moving the slowest is always the point of reference. So the daily motion of Neptune averages about two minutes per day. The Ascendant is much faster than this. So in your example that would  be a first quarter square. Relative to the Sun the Sun is always the point of reference.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Mar 30, 2012, 06:58 AM
                                             ASPECTS SPECIFIC TO PLUTO
                                               
                                                          Pluto Aspects

(Q): How does Pluto contacting a planet or another point in the birth chart subjectively feel? I would imagine it feels like a compulsion that the individual acts out in order to lessen the resulting fear if they don't give in to the compulsion. Please let me know if this is a true statement in your experience. If it is true, I would imagine the way to evolve through the Pluto contact is to first realize that you are acting in a compulsive way. The compulsion feels so bad that a decision is made to consciously face uncharted terrain by changing an ingrained way of behaving as described by whatever the contact is to Pluto.

If this is true, can you comment on Scorpio? Do people with many Scorpio planets in the birth chart act compulsively more than other signs and have more need to make the basis of the compulsion conscious so they can stop the behavior?

(A): Yes, it can feel like a compulsion. The deeper issue, of course, is what the cause of the compulsion itself is. To penetrate the nature of the compulsion can be very intense and is typically met with resistance by the person. To penetrate the nature of the compulsion is to have very deep and, at times, very uncomfortable self-knowledge.

It can also correlate to a variety of 'fears' and the causes for those fears. Again, to penetrate the nature and cause of the fear is tough, yet self-knowledge results and evolution can proceed. It can correlate to a 'feeling' of something being very deep within one's soul/psyche that is hard to get at or penetrate: some piece of knowledge or information that if seen could either set the person free in some way or devastate the person. There are many different psychological dynamics that can correlate to Pluto’s aspects to other planets.

                                                         Pluto Aspecting the Angles

(Q): What does it mean when Pluto is in aspect to all the angles in the chart? Both Pluto and the angles are in mutable signs.

(A): When Pluto is in aspect to all the angles, it correlates to a soul that desires to make major shifts in its orientation to itself and the world that it finds itself in. It signifies maximum growth, especially when the angles and Pluto are in mutable archetypes.

                                                    Direct Aspects to Pluto

(Q): I understand that Pluto describes both the generational vibration a person comes in with as well as specific individualized patterns from the evolutionary past. Direct aspects to Pluto (plus house and sign), as I understand it, show these patterns. If there is a direct aspect to Pluto (for example, Sun in Leo in the 8th house square Pluto at 18 Scorpio) linked to another planet that is not in direct aspect to Pluto (i.e., Venus at 3 Leo, which conjuncts the Sun but is too far to square Pluto), is the Sun only analyzed for the past life pattern, or is Venus connected due to its linkage to the Sun?

(A): Yes, the Venus would be included thru extension via the Sun.

(Q): Also, what do aspects to Pluto's polarity point (if applicable in the chart) represent? Are these aspects actualized when the North Node and its aspects are actualized? 

(A): When planets are making aspects to the North Node, those planets are also making aspects to the South Node, so the planets aspecting the South Node are the specific planets/archetypes that the Soul intends to metamorphose or evolve via the North Node by house and sign and the aspects to that North Node, plus the location of its planetary ruler by house, sign and aspect.
                       Pluto as Ruler of the North Node

(Q): If the planetary ruler of the North Node is Pluto, does the principle governing Pluto's polarity point not apply?

(A): The polarity point still applies unless Pluto is conjunct the North Node.

(Q): If a planet squares Pluto and also independently conjuncts the North Node, would one apply the rules for Pluto squaring the nodal axis? In addition, if the conditions of question one apply in this scenario (i.e., the ruler of North Node is Pluto), is the polarity point applicable?

(A): Yes. One would apply the rules of Pluto squaring the nodes, and yet with that planet on the North Node it means that the soul has already been working on that evolution prior to the current life and is still working on, continuing in, that evolutionary intent. Yes, the polarity point still applies.

                                            Pluto Conjunct the Ascendant

(Q): When Pluto is on the Ascendant, does it reflect the archetype of both houses, i.e., the 12th and the 1st?

(A): When Pluto is conjuncting any house cusp, first determine which house Pluto is actually in. If Pluto is in the first house conjunct the ascendant, in evolutionary terms it means that the archetype of the 12th house has just culminated relative to the last few lifetimes, and a new evolutionary cycle is now beginning. Yet, because the new cycle is just that--new--the tendency of the soul is to look backwards to where it has just been because that correlates to the existing dynamics that create a sense of security for the individual.

Conversely, if Pluto is conjunct the ascendant but in the 12th, in evolutionary terms this means the soul is in the final processes of culminating that archetype and feeling  frustrated because of that. The 'pull' of the new cycle, i.e., the first house, creates all kinds of temptations for the Soul not to culminate that which must be culminated. So, there is typically a back and forth behavioral manifestation between the 12th and 1st.

                                         Pluto Square Saturn

(Q): Is this aspect indicative of abuse by the father: Pluto in Scorpio in the 12th square Saturn Rx in Pisces in the 3rd?

(A): It can be.
                                            Pluto (Leo) sextile Neptune (Libra)

(Q1): In the example of homework chart two, it is stated that Pluto (Leo) sextile Neptune (Libra) means enslavement. (Chart Data: Dec. 23, 1951;  5:42 am; Hollywood, CA.)  I have reviewed the sections on sextiles and the section on Pluto in aspect to Neptune in the first volume of Pluto. Since you state that 75% of the people on the planet today have this sextile, I would appreciate knowing just how this aspect reflects enslavement. 

(A): Of itself, it does not, but in the context of that chart, it does. The key is the overall context of a whole chart, the evolutionary history of a soul.

(Q2): Wow, this really surprised me. I never heard of this possible interpretation of this aspect, yet I recalled past life experiences through rebirthing, and one of the major experiences that shaped my consciousness happened in the Roman age when I was a slave. And yet I didn't realize I was a slave until I was killed. I have a sextile between Pluto (Leo) and Neptune (0'02" Scorpio). Could that correlate to this past life experience in any way?

(A): Yes.
                                                           Pluto and Neptune

(A): To All: Both Pluto and Neptune can correlate to the dynamic and experience of slavery. Pluto has a direct correlation to 'entrapment', being entrapped, contained, overpowered, stalked, raped, sex as power, etc.; and Neptune has a direct correlation to enslavement, being a slave, being imprisoned, held against one's own will and so on. In general, the sextile aspect between these two, of itself, does not correlate to these dynamics and archetypes manifesting in this way. In the context of the chart interpretation mentioned above it does have this manifestation because of the overall context of that chart: i.e., South Node in Virgo in the 8th, with its planetary ruler being Mercury in Capricorn in the 12th. Pluto is in the 8th and does sextile Neptune, but that Neptune is part of a T-square from the 12th and Sixth houses. Thus, the context.

                                                      Pluto Aspecting Venus

(Q): If there is a Pluto-Venus contact in a chart, does it indicate that the person is likely to partner with someone who is a soul mate?

(A): First, it depends on how you define a 'soul mate.' There are many definitions of a soul mate described in lots of different literature. My own definition is the same as Jesus’ definition of a soul mate: two souls who have independently desired to 'know' God/dess and have that desire as the core desire for their whole life. Soul mates are then two souls who have this same core desire and who then desire to be in relationship to one another wherein the nature of the relationship, the core desire within it, is to continue that individual spiritual development because of and thru the vehicle of relationship.

                                         Natal Saturn Opposite Pluto

(Q): People born with Saturn opposed Pluto have been working with this aspect dynamic throughout their present life. These generations are currently in their early 70's and mid 30's . Is it too general to say a positive role for them during this transit would be to help guide others through this time if they have positively integrated the lessons that Saturn opposite Pluto present?

(A): This is way too general. Everyone has their own individual context, evolutionary conditions, karmic dynamics, culture and country, so there can be no general  yes or no to your question.
 
(Q): If they have not integrated these lessons, may these people be struggling more than those without natal Saturn opposite Pluto right now, and can they use this time as an opportunity to integrate those lessons?

(A): Yes.
                                          Transiting Saturn/Pluto Opposition

(Q): Now that we are thru the exact Saturn/Pluto oppositions, in February of 2003, Saturn will retrograde to 22 Gemini while Pluto is at 19 Sagittarius. Will this be experienced in any way like the opposition? If not, is it significant at all?

(A): It is a continuation of what is already underway. Within the time of now until then, and afterwards, relative to phases, this will correlate to the original conjunction of the Pluto and Saturn. Very horrific terrorist events are extremely likely to occur in the U.S., the nature of which can fundamentally alter how life is lived in the U.S. The economic consequences of some of these events can possibly bring the U.S. to its knees and radically alter how life itself is conducted.

                                                     Pluto Unaspected in Synastry

(Q): What is the meaning of the following aspects in synastry? A's Pluto is totally unaspected by any other planet in B's chart, yet B's Pluto is conjunct A's south node. Is the unaspected Pluto operating as pure? Or, is this a new evolutionary theme and, if so, why does B's Pluto conjunct A's south node? Also A's Jupiter, which is A's chart ruler, trines B's North Node and A's Saturn/Mars sextiles B's North Node. B's Saturn conjuncts  A's Merucy, which is conjunct A's North Node.

(A): The various planets aspecting one another's nodes, and one's Pluto on the other one's South Node definitely correlate to the fact that you have been in relationship to one another in prior times. The pure expression of Pluto, relative to being in relationship, is to unconditionally motivate one another to actualize one another's total capacity and evolutionary intentions for the current life--no other agenda. Only you can determine that thru the reality of the relationship.

                                                               Obsession

(Q): What aspects need to be looked at regarding pathological types of obsession, i.e., a woman who constantly thinks about a man/person whom she had met many years ago? How can she defocus herself to get this dude out of her head? What's really going with obsessions like that? The woman is innocent; that's a known! The obsessor is constantly on the obsessee's mind to the point that it's driving the obsessee mad!

(A): Pluto is always involved in stressful aspects in the natal chart when obsession is observed/experienced.

        Scorpio Ascendant vs. Pluto Square Taurus Ascendant from 4th House

(Q): You explained in detail the way a Scorpio rising person may walk into a room (head down, seeming not to notice, walking straight ahead, and all the while acutely sensing the room), and for what reasons (past life memories of emotional betrayal.) When Pluto is squaring a Taurus Ascendant from the 4th house and the way in which one walks into a room is similar, is it much like the dynamics of the Scorpio Ascendant?

(A): Yes, it would be very much the same, but even more intense.

(Q): Would the difference be that Scorpio is more instinctual and not as conscious of it, whereas Pluto squaring a Taurus Ascendant is more psychological and likely more consciously acting this out?

(A): Yes, it is a conscious acting out.

(Q): Are both the Scorpio Ascendant and the Pluto squaring the Ascendant persons reacting to memories of betrayal?

(A): Scorpio rising is ever on the alert for the 'potential' for betrayal to occur; the 4th house Pluto more or less assumes it.

(Q): What are the basic differences from one to the other with just this information?

(A):  You can read the difference in the first volume of Pluto. Read first house Pluto, then fourth house Pluto.

(Q): Does Pluto squaring any Ascendant make it more Scorpio-like, or would that be more true of Taurus, the polarity?

(A): Yes. Pluto squaring the Ascendant makes it more Scorpio-like.

(Q): Would it be more so from the 4th house than the 10th?
 
(A): The difference between the 10th house Pluto and the 4th house Pluto is that the 10th house Pluto is looking around itself via the overall environment, particularly that which is linked with its standing in the world, its career, like Nixon, versus the 4th house Pluto, which is much more personal and immediate to the person's intimate life in some way: parents, lovers, kids, even friends.


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Upasika on Apr 01, 2012, 03:24 PM
Hi Rad,

I hope you had a nice few days off...

Oppositions
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Generally an opposition represents assembling and collecting one's energies and functioning - described by the planets in opposition - to a focus, in readiness to enter the social environment as an equal (Gibbous opp). And then going through all the necessary involvements with others that are required to integrate those various aspects of oneself with the wider social environment in a way that is is productive (Full opp). This is done so the individual meaning one has given to the original evolutionary intention can now be be given a social meaning. Also, in this process the exact nature of the separating desires involved are clarified, and the contrast between these desires and the desire to return to the source becomes highlighted. (Please correct me if this understanding of the opposition is not right in any way).

The questions I have about oppositions concerns the "throwing off" that is often attributed to the them.

- What is it that is to be "thrown off" regarding an opposition? Where can this be seen in the signature as it relates to the chart?

- Does an opposition always imply that something must be thrown off, or only in some situations?

- I'd imagine there would be significant differences in the throwing off of anything between a person in (say) the Consensus stage compared to someone in the Spiritual stage. As separating desires becomes less does this mean that such "throwing off" necessities of the opposition become less or start to not apply at all?

Thanks for your help Rad,

blessings Upasika


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Apr 02, 2012, 07:41 AM
Hi Upasika,

Hi Rad,

I hope you had a nice few days off...

Oppositions
-----------
Generally an opposition represents assembling and collecting one's energies and functioning - described by the planets in opposition - to a focus, in readiness to enter the social environment as an equal (Gibbous opp). And then going through all the necessary involvements with others that are required to integrate those various aspects of oneself with the wider social environment in a way that is is productive (Full opp). This is done so the individual meaning one has given to the original evolutionary intention can now be be given a social meaning. Also, in this process the exact nature of the separating desires involved are clarified, and the contrast between these desires and the desire to return to the source becomes highlighted. (Please correct me if this understanding of the opposition is not right in any way).

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This is all correct except this: " Also, in this process the exact nature of the separating desires involved are clarified, and the contrast between these desires and the desire to return to the source becomes highlighted."

Any desire that is not a specific desire to return to the Source is a separating desire. The nature of the opposition, one of it's archetypes, is to make the Soul aware of separating desires that are no longer needed by the Soul so that other desires can then be acted upon. The desires that are no longer needed by the Soul are then 'thrown off': to be cast aside. This awareness occurs within the Soul by the Soul inwardly opposing itself relative to the separating desires that it no longer needs: the Soul confronts itself from within. This internal opposition of course can be reflected in the external environment by way of confrontations with others who oppose the Soul from acting out those desires that it no longer needs.  


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The questions I have about oppositions concerns the "throwing off" that is often attributed to the them.

- What is it that is to be "thrown off" regarding an opposition? Where can this be seen in the signature as it relates to the chart?

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See above. The signature is the specific opposition aspect between two or more planets, and the houses that those planets are within: the combined archetypes.

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- Does an opposition always imply that something must be thrown off, or only in some situations?

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In all situations.

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- I'd imagine there would be significant differences in the throwing off of anything between a person in (say) the Consensus stage compared to someone in the Spiritual stage. As separating desires becomes less does this mean that such "throwing off" necessities of the opposition become less or start to not apply at all?

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They also apply at the most advanced stages of evolution. For example Jesus dying on the Cross when he cries in pain that "God has forsaken me". This is is reflected in his Pluto/Mars conjunction in Virgo in his 9th in opposition to all his Pisces planets in the 3rd. What he is 'throwing off' at that moment is his own DOUBT about God's love for him where that doubt manifested in the most severe of circumstances: the absolute crisis leading to his physical death.

Another example would be the great Yogananda who had a 10th House Pluto in Gemini in opposition to his Venus in Sagittarius in his 4th. He had been in other lives as well as the current life of being Yogananda extremely attached to his earthy mothers because of his own need for emotional security. To be free of this his Soul then created the life of Yoganada wherein his earthly mother died when he was around five years of age. In 'throwing off' this need, Venus, he then went into the attic of his house and sat there demanding that the Cosmic Mother reveal herself to him from within. And that did indeed happen because of his own determination, 10th House Pluto in opposition to his Venus in the 4th, in such a way that his 'mother' then became the Cosmic Mother. In so doing his Soul then continued to evolve even further.


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God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Elen on Apr 02, 2012, 05:29 PM
Hi Rad,

This question came up for me with regard to Upasika's question about the "throwing off" quality to the opposition.  But I think it is a question that in my mind applies to all aspects.  The question is: in trying to determine just what is being thrown off, do you focus on the faster moving planet to determine what that most likely will be?  And so, in terms of the other aspects, is the leading planet the "clue" to what is going on?

Thanks,
Elen


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: ari moshe on Apr 02, 2012, 06:43 PM
Wow, that example with Yogananda was both clarifying and inspiring - thanks for sharing that example.

Rad I have another question specific to the intentions of the semi sextile and the semi square - both balsamic and new phase. I have two charts here that I want to exemplify to see if I understand clearly the specific requirements of planets in these phases to the nodes. In my experience counseling these two clients, I feel I grasp a good deal of the story and yet would like some support in understanding the true implication of these aspects.

(http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp255/arimoshe/firstspiritman.jpg)
This first chart we have Saturn in Scorpio in the 12th in a balsamic semi sextile to the sn in Sag in the first. That Saturn is ruled by Pluto which itself is almost an exact balsamic semi square, (though still last quarter) to the sn as well.

The first thing, given the nature of these aspects occurring in the balsamic phase and also relating the 12th house to the 1st house point to a core humility and surrender that this soul is focusing on intensely in this life. In prior lives there was an over emphasis on his own individual spiritual purpose and capacities which translated to the misuse of his own authority, taking on responsibility for the masses but lacking in the appropriate credentials/skills that he overlooked relative to his own egocentric spiritual narcissism (sn in first, ruler Jupiter conj Neptune and sun relative to the Saturn semi sextile to that sn). This all implies that this soul is requiring a limitation and focusing of effort via the appropriate discipline and training b4 he can set forth to do what he wishes to do in this life.

That Saturn being ruled by Pluto which is on the cusp of the balsamic phase to the sn and also just on the cusp of the 12th house means that this soul has the choice to stop resisting his own evolution by way of his karmic pattern of overcompensation via spiritual ideas and over idealizing his own purpose. The intention is to limit his options and focus on the appropriate path (by way of generating the desire to do so) that will allow for him to evolve beyond his previous deeply rooted insecurities. The nature of these insecurities being about dissolving and surrendering his freedom into the whole by way of a form of service that will allow him to fully commit to a path of soul work. This signature points to prior lifetimes where he has gotten involved in all kinds of spiritual paths and has sought to merge and dissolve his own identity, and yet has resisted that disillusionment by way of maintaining an exaggerated identity of who he is and what his purpose is all seemingly under the guise of merging with the whole and yet was in fact a way of maintaining his separating desires.

That's just the general sense of it- of course there are more archetypes involved - in particular these planets relationship with the nn and other aspects. I just want to see if I am actually on the right track here and am interpreting the meaning of this signature accurately.

I wont overwhelm you all at once, so I'll post the second chart after I get feedback from this one. Thank you so much Rad. God bless,
Ari Moshe


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Apr 03, 2012, 05:07 AM
Hi Rad,

This question came up for me with regard to Upasika's question about the "throwing off" quality to the opposition.  But I think it is a question that in my mind applies to all aspects.  The question is: in trying to determine just what is being thrown off, do you focus on the faster moving planet to determine what that most likely will be?  And so, in terms of the other aspects, is the leading planet the "clue" to what is going on?

Thanks,
Elen

Hi Elen,

A consideration must be made relative to core signature of the two planets in opposition. The two planets in opposition correlate to the core or root of that which is being 'thrown off' yet that root will likely be connected to those two planets being is aspect to other planets. If so, then those other aspects will correlate to branches that are connected to that root. In essence, that which is being thrown off in order for the evolution of the Soul to proceed is symbolized by both the planets, houses and signs that the root correlates too. As this throwing off process occurs it then allows all the related dynamics symbolized in the other planets/houses/ signs that are connected to this root to also evolve because the blocking force of that which must be thrown off has or is occurring.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Apr 03, 2012, 05:10 AM
Hi Ari,

Yes...............

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: ari moshe on Apr 03, 2012, 04:37 PM
(http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp255/arimoshe/thirdindfirstspirit.jpg)

In this second chart of a male third individuated, transitioning to first spiritual - Neptune is in Cap in the 6th in a crescent phase semi square the sn in Scorpio in the 5th.

This would correlate to prior lives where the soul had been neglectful of various work responsibilities by way of ignoring the necessary details because of who he considered himself to be, not picturing it necessary or important to do such things given his royalty like status (or self image of having such a status), or some sort of justification that is linked to the psychology of Scorpio in the 5th house (narcissism, personal power and self importance). Because of this neglect and laziness there were all kinds of crisis that the soul was not prepared to cope with due to its fixation on being "above and beyond" dealing with such crisis. Thus the imperative of the semi square in this life is to limit his arrogance by way of developing humility and a path of service that allows him to focus on all the necessary details for a higher purpose than himself.

The ruler of Neptune being conjunct the sn as well as the Moon. This implies this will specifically have a correlation with prior family dynamics, in particular children to whom he neglected/deprived attention. The resolution in this life is to align with a path of service, karma yoga, that will allow him to give the attention and emotional support for children - or whatever population would fit into the archetype of the Scorpio 5th house. In so doing he is accepting the requirements of that Neptune in Capricorn in the 6th in a crescent phase semi square to the sn in Scorpio in the 5th. He will also re-encounter various souls who were his own children in the past in order to resolve these dynamics.

Is this an accurate assessment of this configuration (in a general way - again granted that there are so many more aspects involved). Thank you so much Rad, Love,
Ari Moshe


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Elen on Apr 03, 2012, 06:43 PM
Thank you, Rad!  That was VERY clarifying!

Peace,
Elen


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: serban_p on Apr 04, 2012, 03:12 AM
Hi Rad, Ari

I would like to ask some questions regarding aspects to the nodes:

(i) My understanding is that aspects from natal planets to the SN or its ruler correlate to past life dynamics that provide information regarding the past leading up to the current life being lived. Accordingly, unlike aspects between natal planets (which correlate to the current life intentions of the planetary pair in question), aspects to the SN or its ruler provide a “glimpse” into the Soul’s past and acting them out again in the current life would lead to stagnation. Is this correct?


(ii) Since in the majority of cases a planet in aspect to the SN would also form an aspect to the NN (the aspect that is opposite to the one involving the SN), is there any correlation we can make to the idea of polarities indicating the way forward as far as aspects to the nodes are concerned?

For instance, using the balsamic semi-square that Ari referred to (not necessarily the charts posted above), let’s suppose Saturn is making a 314 degrees aspect to the SN (balsamic semi-square but still in the last quarter phase). Of course this aspect needs to be interpreted in the context of a person’s entire chart, but nevertheless we can infer from it that in its past the Soul wanted to have the freedom to initiate whatever experiences were considered necessary so as to get closer to the distant horizon it inwardly sensed. Furthermore we can assume that the external obligations and duties that were inherent to the establishment of the Soul’s personal authority within the context of society (Saturn) were perceived to be very annoying and were viewed as potential detours that prevented the Soul from getting to that distant horizon that promised only freedom.

Since this is the orientation that the Soul is bringing into the current life, is it correct to say that the solution to the limitations implied by the past (which are symbolized by the Saturn semi-square to the SN) is represented by the aspect Saturn is making to the NN, i.e. a first quarter sesquiquadrate (134 degrees)? This would mean that in the current life the Soul would need to acknowledge how the system works, to go through the necessary training and activities and the not-so-glamorous details of one’s everyday life in order to establish its personal authority. By doing this, the person would also experience necessary humility as he/she may have been overly identified on an egocentric level with the vision of the distant horizon.

Is the above correct and if so, can we generally look to the aspect a planet is making to the NN in order to determine how evolution can proceed beyond the limitations suggested by the aspect from the same planet to the SN?

(iii) If a chart has skipped steps and a planet is making an aspect to both nodes, can we say that in the past the person has flip-flopped between the dynamics symbolized by the two aspects (in the example above – a last quarter semi-square and a first quarter sesquiquadrate) and is meant to constantly focus in the current life on the aspect that is formed between the respective planet and the resolution node?

All the best,

Serban


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Apr 04, 2012, 07:30 AM
Hi Ari,

Yes............

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Upasika on Apr 05, 2012, 05:37 AM
Hi Rad,

Thank you - that, plus your answer to Ellen, adds a dimension to the opposition that makes a lot of sense.

It is interesting that in a grand cross, the oppositions are the skeleton, bones, of the configuration. Would it be right that all the planets/points in a grand cross will tend to repeat the same old separating desires, maybe dressed up in different garments (situations) time after time again, repeatedly, until the Soul sheds the outworn desires of both the oppositions simultaneously - en masse?

In other words because each planet in a grand cross is so interwoven with all the other planets, they would tend to lock in on each other preventing just a couple of planets, from moving forward into new desires by themselves - the other planets would hold them back in the pattern (of the four planets together). Therefore dropping old desires would tend to be much harder to do. The person may keep initiating experience (according to the mode of the cross) that maybe was new in the sense of another completely fresh new venture - yet it was just another reflection of the same old desires - time after time again, endlessly.

Thus a person with a grand cross, due to the oppositions, would always have strong sense of change in desires being needed (and also due to the creative/developmental stress involved in a cross), and may even know what those changes needed to be, but find their patterns based around the old familiar desires too strong for small incremental changes (related to just two of the planets involved).

Thus the person would need to see and grasp the entire complexity of their pattern - of pursuing the same old desires of both oppositions - at a much deeper level, and throw (or more like literally "heave") the old desires and their patterns around pursuing/expressing those desires, off in one huge massive chunk, before they could really move into truly fresh new virgin desires involving all the planets/points of the grand cross. Hence the "explosion" (inner, outer or both).

Not sure if I've explained this very well, but would this accurately describe the way the dynamics of the oppositions would tend to be conditioned by being within a grand cross, as far as making the Soul aware of the separating desires not needed anymore, and the resulting affect on the person?

Thank you Rad for everything you're doing here!

blessings Upasika


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Apr 05, 2012, 07:26 AM
Hi Upasika,

Essentially yes. The Grand Cross symbolizes all kinds of existing dynamics within the Soul that have come to a head in the way you are stating it. Thus, the Soul has a choice to make in order for it's evolution to either proceed or not.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: serban_p on Apr 06, 2012, 02:34 AM
Hi Rad,

I don't mean to bother you but I was wondering whether you missed my post above and Ari's. As always, any insight you can share will be very much appreciated.

All the best,

Serban


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Apr 06, 2012, 07:58 AM
Hi Rad, Ari

I would like to ask some questions regarding aspects to the nodes:

(i) My understanding is that aspects from natal planets to the SN or its ruler correlate to past life dynamics that provide information regarding the past leading up to the current life being lived. Accordingly, unlike aspects between natal planets (which correlate to the current life intentions of the planetary pair in question), aspects to the SN or its ruler provide a “glimpse” into the Soul’s past and acting them out again in the current life would lead to stagnation. Is this correct?

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Yes, but it's more than just a 'glimpse'. It's a total understanding of what has come before, and why.

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(ii) Since in the majority of cases a planet in aspect to the SN would also form an aspect to the NN (the aspect that is opposite to the one involving the SN), is there any correlation we can make to the idea of polarities indicating the way forward as far as aspects to the nodes are concerned?

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The polarity of any sign is contained with the sign itself. If a Soul is making choices to evolve then that natural polarity will occur as a result. Thus, the existing aspects between two planets that are symbolized by the Soul's past that is being brought forwards into the current life are continuing to evolve relative to the archetypal nature of the aspects and the phases they take place within.

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For instance, using the balsamic semi-square that Ari referred to (not necessarily the charts posted above), let’s suppose Saturn is making a 314 degrees aspect to the SN (balsamic semi-square but still in the last quarter phase). Of course this aspect needs to be interpreted in the context of a person’s entire chart, but nevertheless we can infer from it that in its past the Soul wanted to have the freedom to initiate whatever experiences were considered necessary so as to get closer to the distant horizon it inwardly sensed.

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You can not 'infer' or assume this at all in this aspect

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Furthermore we can assume that the external obligations and duties that were inherent to the establishment of the Soul’s personal authority within the context of society (Saturn) were perceived to be very annoying and were viewed as potential detours that prevented the Soul from getting to that distant horizon that promised only freedom.

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No, your assumptions are just that: assumptions. Your assumptions are assuming one possible manifestation of this aspect.

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Since this is the orientation that the Soul is bringing into the current life, is it correct to say that the solution to the limitations implied by the past (which are symbolized by the Saturn semi-square to the SN) is represented by the aspect Saturn is making to the NN, i.e. a first quarter sesquiquadrate (134 degrees)? This would mean that in the current life the Soul would need to acknowledge how the system works, to go through the necessary training and activities and the not-so-glamorous details of one’s everyday life in order to establish its personal authority. By doing this, the person would also experience necessary humility as he/she may have been overly identified on an egocentric level with the vision of the distant horizon.

*********************

Relative to your assumptions, that would be the case.

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Is the above correct and if so, can we generally look to the aspect a planet is making to the NN in order to determine how evolution can proceed beyond the limitations suggested by the aspect from the same planet to the SN?

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Yes.

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(iii) If a chart has skipped steps and a planet is making an aspect to both nodes, can we say that in the past the person has flip-flopped between the dynamics symbolized by the two aspects (in the example above – a last quarter semi-square and a first quarter sesquiquadrate) and is meant to constantly focus in the current life on the aspect that is formed between the respective planet and the resolution node?

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No, because in the example you have posited the two planets are not themselves square the Nodal Axis.


God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: serban_p on Apr 06, 2012, 08:35 AM
Hi Rad,

Thank you so much--I am extremely grateful for your time and patience.

All the best,

Serban


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: ari moshe on Apr 06, 2012, 09:19 AM
Hi Rad, I have deleted my last post.
God bless,
am


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: ari moshe on Apr 19, 2012, 05:28 AM
Hi Rad, I have another chart here I'd like to look at in regards to sesququads with the nodes. In this case it involves the MC/IC axis. MC gibbous phase sesquiquad the nn and the IC gibbous phase sesquiquad the sn.

(http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp255/arimoshe/icmc.jpg)

The fact of the IC/MC being involved means that there was a dynamic that has manifested in the CURRENT LIFE according to the current evolutionary needs of the soul. Is that an accurate assesment, since the IC/MC is specific to the current life?

This would relate to her early nurturing experience and her social conditioning/imprinting. The IC, ruled by Taurus Moon in the 12th sesquiquad the sn in Pisces in the 11th, which is ruled by Neptune in Pisces in the 8th. Taking into account the squares to the nodes in the 7th and 8th all relative to the core intention of Pluto in the 6th: There have been various traumas and emotional shocks that this soul has experienced in the past that have lead the soul to feel incredibly powerless and vulnerable. She has also been learning the ongoing lesson of letting go of the need for control, and thus she has responded to these shocks by way of disconnecting and entering into "work mode" that has manifested as having dissociated from her own family based on the emotional overwhelm of what has occured (ic gibbous sesqui sn). Implied in this is that she has also taken advantage of other's based on unconscious motives - and in so doing has attracted abandonment and great loss. This has then lead to the fear of getting too close to anyone. So linking that sn to the IC this would imply emotional fracturing, dissociation and as a result of that being emotionally unavailable to "family" and those that need her.

And in the current life, that has manifested via a mother who was emotionally overwhelmed and checked out. Thus this soul has early on learned to protect herself and not become too vulnerable - all to avoid the unresolved trauma.

Is it accurate to say that she had exemplified such patters with her own family in prior lives and that the fact of the IC/MC axis being involved means that it can intensify if it is not dealt with in this life? IE that it can manifest as something like an actual Moon or Saturn sesqui/semi square to the nodes?

I'll keep it here for now. I just want to see if I am approaching and understanding the implications of this signature. Thank you so much.
Love, am


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Apr 19, 2012, 08:24 AM
Hi Ari,

Yes, very accurate ........

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: ari moshe on Apr 19, 2012, 08:57 AM
Thank you so much for looking at these Rad.
May I post another chart? This next one contains an opposition that are both semi/sequi the nodes. I do want to make sure I'm not overdoing it in posting these...


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: JJ on Apr 19, 2012, 11:28 AM
Hi Rad and all,

I have some basic questions regarding when a planet conjuncts the sn. Generally when a planet conjuncts the sn there is a relive, fruition or combination of both that cannot be released until the second saturn return. Is this correct? Does this also mean that if there is a state of fruition that the "gifts" of that fruition will also dissolve at that time or that the person will no longer be working with these gifts?

And specifically relating to timing when a planet conjuncts the sn and a planet conjuncts nn. In this case the person can be released prior to the second saturn return, but how does one determine this timing? Is it earlier if there is more than one planet conjunct the nn? Is it unique to each individual depending on their evolutionary state? Generally are there any specific guidelines for determining the "release" when a planet is conjunct sn but there are also planet/s conjunct the nn?

Thank you so much.

JJ


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Apr 20, 2012, 07:10 AM
Thank you so much for looking at these Rad.
May I post another chart? This next one contains an opposition that are both semi/sequi the nodes. I do want to make sure I'm not overdoing it in posting these...

Hi Ari,

Go ahead.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Apr 20, 2012, 07:27 AM
Hi JJ,

Hi Rad and all,

I have some basic questions regarding when a planet conjuncts the sn. Generally when a planet conjuncts the sn there is a relive, fruition or combination of both that cannot be released until the second saturn return. Is this correct?

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Yes

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Does this also mean that if there is a state of fruition that the "gifts" of that fruition will also dissolve at that time or that the person will no longer be working with these gifts?

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The 'gifts' reflected in fruition do not dissolve. The karmic/ evolutionary requirement to act upon those gifts that will define the Soul's reality is that which can be released.

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And specifically relating to timing when a planet conjuncts the sn and a planet conjuncts nn. In this case the person can be released prior to the second saturn return, but how does one determine this timing? Is it earlier if there is more than one planet conjunct the nn? Is it unique to each individual depending on their evolutionary state? Generally are there any specific guidelines for determining the "release" when a planet is conjunct sn but there are also planet/s conjunct the nn?

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The number of planets on the N.Node has no correlation to the timing of the release. An overall consideration / understanding of the entire chart, starting withe the EA paradigm, must be taking into account in order to know when that timing can occur. Thus, it is different for each Soul. The evolutionary state, of itself, is not a determinant in that consideration.

As for some general guidelines: the transiting Lunar Nodes, and their planetary rulers relative to the natal Lunar Nodes and their planetary rulers, the transit of Pluto of course, and the transits of Saturn and Uranus. Within this the transits of the South and North Nodes of the planets that are the natural planetary rulers of the natal North and South Nodes of the Moon.


Thank you so much.


God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: ari moshe on Apr 20, 2012, 07:32 AM
Hi Rad,

Here is another chart example with a very potent signature of Venus Uranus opposition both semi/sesquisquare the nodes. Venus is also conj Chiron and square her Moon. She is first stage spiritual.

(http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp255/arimoshe/femalefirstspiritsemi2.jpg)

First, the core dynamics within the soul has to do with social conditioning and judgments that she has deeply internalized leading to her hiding her actual nature for many life times. Her basic path in this life is to become completely honest with herself about her actual nature, not what she has been conditioned to believe. This will be facilitated via a naturally matriarchal oriented path – one that is deeply connected to nature and the feminine. Through that path she will be a teacher and eventually hold a position of spiritual responsibility for many other souls via the nature of the spiritual path that she has chosen (Saturn in 12th squaring nodes, nn ruler in 10th in mutual reception with Sun in 9th). Being trained and disciplined via such a path is a necessary step (Saturn relative to nn in 9th – matriarchal/nature based teacher/disciplineship).

The Venus Uranus opposition in the second and 8th along with Venus being in a paradoxical placement that involves the Taurus/Scorpio archetpyes at first glimpse has to do with the dichotomy between self reliance, and within that self reliance being absolutely free to determine her own values and relationship to her body, sexuality, money etc – and the other side of where there is a deep longing and desire to merge with another on an absolutely penetrating level linked to the sexual/emotional needs that relate to the natural separating desires inherent within this soul. Venus linked to the gibbous sesquisquare to the sn in Capricorn in the 3rd, which is ruled by Saturn in Libra in the 12th squaring the nodes, implies that there was social conditioning and judgement about the nature of her own natural desires – and has thus suppressed them all the while entering into marriage with others who then became controlling and dominate over her – this being deeply invalidating at a core level since the intention has been to grow from relationships. She has completely lost herself and her own authority to these relationships and has overcompensated via osmosing the values, and the cultural beliefs of the partners she has had. Because of that there has also been a cyclic need to completely break free from any kind of commitment of any kind of the basis of needing to get in touch with her own freedom and essence (opposition to Uranus). And that Uranus in Sag in the second sesquiquad the nn implies the impulse to liberate from all kinds of conditioning linked to her intimate parternships in order to understand who she is at a core level. Thus prior lives where she has been at times completely alone, likely in the forest (sag, 9th).

The reisistance to evolution via the sesquiquad, since the sequiquad implies attention to detail and a natural slowing down, focusing within, implies that there is a need for her to analyze the nature of her own relationships and the dichotomy between her own inner life, who she ACTUALLY knows herself to be, and who she becomes (which includes patterns of duplicity and people pleasing – third house relative to libra 12th) in her relationships. This will require discernment and discrimination (gibbous) about who she opens up to on a sexual level. It will also require her to include within her understanding of life (3rd/9th house) an orientation to sexuality that will support her to become more self aware of her own motives and the reasons behind her various past relationships.

Given her evolutionary condition, she is evolving closer to a tantric path – and thus learning to limit her sexual involvement via that discrimination and eventually through that attract a partner that will demonstrate the desire to both totally commit and also support her own natural freedom. This may also imply evolutionary necessity will remove various partners from her life as well as attracting partners that do not stick around (Uranus in second in Sag relative to the 9th house nn – reflecting her own need for freedom. In opposition to Venus = throwing off any dynamics that create imbalance). All this would be to ensure that she develop the necessary self reliance and does not become too conditioned/limited via her partnerships.

Is this an accurate understanding of these signatures?

Also, will there be the need for this soul to go back and forth between the extremes of partnership and being alone for her entire life until she resolves what needs to be addressed? Thank you so much.
With love,
Ari Moshe


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Apr 20, 2012, 08:19 AM
Hi Ari,

Extremely accurate. One thing to include in this understanding about her intimate relationships, over many recent lifetimes, is her becoming confused by others in the beginning of the attractions. In one to many lives she has been attracted to 'silver tongue' devil types who have all the right words in the beginning, the very words demonstrating the kind of reality that she would want for herself with another. These are the types who know how to manipulate others relative to the types of words that they use to do so. And once a commitment has been made to such a type soon after the actual reality of that Soul becomes revealed in a variety of ways where the actual reality is vastly different than the initial presentation of them self.

Thus, in all those lifetimes in which that dynamic has been in place she has ended up feeling totally disillusioned by way of intimate relationships. The antidote for such a dynamic, the Venus/Uranus opposition, is to simply been platonic friends with whomever she is attracted too that has the possibility of the deep, permeating, type of relationship that she needs. And to do that at a minimum of six to eight months. The point of this is that is the person that she feels those kinds of attractions too are NOT WHAT THEY SEEM TO BE, HOW THE REPRESENT THEMSELVES, they will do something that will expose their actual reality and agenda in that timing. If the person is whom they seem to be then they will remain that way. This is how she can then 'test' who is real, and who is not. And then make the appropriate decisions.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: ari moshe on Apr 20, 2012, 10:54 AM
Hi Rad,
Thank you,

Quote
One thing to include in this understanding about her intimate relationships, over many recent lifetimes, is her becoming confused by others in the beginning of the attractions. In one to many lives she has been attracted to 'silver tongue' devil types who have all the right words in the beginning, the very words demonstrating the kind of reality that she would want for herself with another.

Is this indicated by the semi square between the nn in Cancer in the 9th and Venus in Taurus in the 8th in relation to Mars in Libra in 12th squaring the nn, and that Mars being ruled by that Venus? And would this also imply a similar dynamic of her partners having literally left her (via 9th house, travel) after the "got" what they wanted from her?

From these signatures it seems that she has been a part of very particular cultures in the past that by their very nature subjected her to a wide exposure of intimate partners and often limiting and subjectifying marriages and at the same time kept her isolated and locked in a certain social role. The energy of a geisha comes to mind - I'm not assuming specifically that, however is it accurate to say that there has been some sort of role of that nature in prior lives?
God bless,
am


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Apr 20, 2012, 11:37 AM
Hi Ari,

Hi Rad,
Thank you,

Quote
One thing to include in this understanding about her intimate relationships, over many recent lifetimes, is her becoming confused by others in the beginning of the attractions. In one to many lives she has been attracted to 'silver tongue' devil types who have all the right words in the beginning, the very words demonstrating the kind of reality that she would want for herself with another.

Is this indicated by the semi square between the nn in Cancer in the 9th and Venus in Taurus in the 8th in relation to Mars in Libra in 12th squaring the nn, and that Mars being ruled by that Venus? And would this also imply a similar dynamic of her partners having literally left her (via 9th house, travel) after the "got" what they wanted from her?

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The signature is the 8th House Venus that is the ruler of all the Libra in the 12th which is reinforced by the Mercury in Gemini, duplicity, trining all that Libra, and then reinforced even further by the S.Node in Capricorn in the 3rd which of course is being squared by all that Libra including Saturn: skipped steps. This is a carried over lesson that she has yet to learn.

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From these signatures it seems that she has been a part of very particular cultures in the past that by their very nature subjected her to a wide exposure of intimate partners and often limiting and subjectifying marriages and at the same time kept her isolated and locked in a certain social role. The energy of a geisha comes to mind - I'm not assuming specifically that, however is it accurate to say that there has been some sort of role of that nature in prior lives?

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Yes, in heavily patriarchal cultures that have the typical double standard for men and women. The most intense of these sorts of lives took place in the middle east: the geodetic equivalents in her chart that correlate to that area

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God bless,
am

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Wendy on May 20, 2012, 07:53 AM
                                 
                                            BALSAMIC PHASE

What if you have Mars/Venus in a balsamic state? Your quest is for a timeless ideal relationship. That which reflects timelessness, that which is natural, not conditioned. Is monogamy, a one-to-one relationship, that which is most natural to the species? What is the natural and actual instinct in the species? The answer is that there are no absolutes.

So, if you take Mars/Venus in the balsamic phase, it means that that individual is seeking an entirely different kind of relationship, a relationship with the divine, first and foremost and learning how to see the divine in their partner, first and foremost, thus effecting unconditional love, not conditional love. In this state, you are in a timeless relationship.

If you have Mars/Venus in a balsamic phase, it simply means, relative to culmination, that you are destined to meet many people throughout your life with whom you have had prior live dealings, people with whom you are culminating or finishing relationships with. It means that the older you become in this life, if that is your condition, that you will begin to meet new people, people who you will not be allowed to be in an intimate relationship with, but with whom you will establish seeds that will grow into future lifetimes together.

WOW--I am so glad to read this, I guess I didn't see it before.  It sheds a great deal of light into my life.

With the energy of the eclipse, I have been having loads of insights into my patterns, which brings up a question relative to my own chart, with the intent to increase my own EA awareness, and hopefully others as well.

If one has Mars and Venus in balsamic phase, semi-square, and Venus is conjunct Pluto and Uranus, and Pluto and Uranus are in balsamic phase to each other, but Venus is in new phase to them (in the 4th with the SN of Mars) and Mars in the 5th, could it be that this soul, in terms of romantic intimacy, and relative what I just mentioned, would it be a conscientious choice to stay out of committed relationships in this life, relative to the statements above in bold.  In other words, it is best not to get into significant relationships to allow the balsamic phase to complete more easily??

Also, does it help the soul to embrace their polarity of Mars to further actualize the dharmic relationship to the current life, and thus meet those new people who they can 'plant seeds with for future lives together'?

Maybe I am just repeating what you already said here?  I just am really beginning to get into the meat of this whole EA paradigm--into the objectivity.

Thank you,
Wendy


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on May 21, 2012, 07:47 AM
Hi Wendy,

"If one has Mars and Venus in balsamic phase, semi-square, and Venus is conjunct Pluto and Uranus, and Pluto and Uranus are in balsamic phase to each other, but Venus is in new phase to them (in the 4th with the SN of Mars) and Mars in the 5th, could it be that this soul, in terms of romantic intimacy, and relative what I just mentioned, would it be a conscientious choice to stay out of committed relationships in this life, relative to the statements above in bold.  In other words, it is best not to get into significant relationships to allow the balsamic phase to complete more easily??"

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It entirely depends on the total evolutionary and karmic background between the two individuals. It may be necessary to be intimate in order for the culmination to occur for example.

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"Also, does it help the soul to embrace their polarity of Mars to further actualize the dharmic relationship to the current life, and thus meet those new people who they can 'plant seeds with for future lives together'?"

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Yes, because in so meeting 'new friends', and keeping it as friends, this helps the Soul objectify to itself it's emerging evolutionary needs in relationships.

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God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Wendy on May 22, 2012, 08:32 PM
Thanks Rad.  This all is very clarifying. 

God Bless,
Wendy


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Henrik on Oct 04, 2012, 05:25 AM
Hi All,

This next posting is about planetary aspects that has been condensed by Adina Mather from the old message board.

                                         ASPECTS BETWEEN PLANETS AND ANGLES

                             
                                       Planets Aspecting Stelliums

(Q): When there is a huge stellium of planets in a chart all conjunct within a 10-degree orb and another planet aspects that stellium, there can exist more than one type of aspect, i.e., quintile and square. What is the rule governing this? Does one incorporate both aspects within their analysis?

(A): Yes.

(Q): When a planet aspects this sort of stellium, does the planet's aspected dynamic in equal measure affect all the planetary dynamics held within the stellium, by virtue of the conjunction, regardless of the degree of orb?

(A): Yes.
   

Hi Rad and everyone,

A question of clarification:

I have Sn in 20 deg Virgo, Pluto 26 deg Virgo, Venus 0 deg Libra (all 2nd house with Virgo on the cusp), Uranus at 5 and Mercury at 6 deg Libra, My Saturn is at 6 deg Taurus (10th house w. Aries on the cusp). So I have a Uranus/Saturn Full phase inconjunct and a Saturn/Mercury Gibbous phase inconjunct...clearly a trauma signature.
Here are my questions (perhaps a bit rhetorical):

Should I view all the planets in the stellium as conjunct my Sn (with all the implications that goes with it)

If yes, then I assume that I should consider Saturn inconjunct the Stellium planets (and perhaps inconjunct the Sn)?

Should I tie in all the planets in the stellium (incl the Sn) in interpreting the trauma signature, since all the planets and the Sn forms a bridge to the inconjuct Uranus/Saturn aspect?

I also have Mars 17 deg Cap conjunct Moon at 19 deg which I previously thought only aspected my Nodes and Pluto. I guess I should now add the other planets in the stellium to that Sn/Pluto aspect?

All the best,
Henrik



Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Oct 04, 2012, 07:52 AM
Hi All,

This next posting is about planetary aspects that has been condensed by Adina Mather from the old message board.

                                         ASPECTS BETWEEN PLANETS AND ANGLES

                             
                                       Planets Aspecting Stelliums

(Q): When there is a huge stellium of planets in a chart all conjunct within a 10-degree orb and another planet aspects that stellium, there can exist more than one type of aspect, i.e., quintile and square. What is the rule governing this? Does one incorporate both aspects within their analysis?

(A): Yes.

(Q): When a planet aspects this sort of stellium, does the planet's aspected dynamic in equal measure affect all the planetary dynamics held within the stellium, by virtue of the conjunction, regardless of the degree of orb?

(A): Yes.
   

Hi Henrik,

A question of clarification:

I have Sn in 20 deg Virgo, Pluto 26 deg Virgo, Venus 0 deg Libra (all 2nd house with Virgo on the cusp), Uranus at 5 and Mercury at 6 deg Libra, My Saturn is at 6 deg Taurus (10th house w. Aries on the cusp). So I have a Uranus/Saturn Full phase inconjunct and a Saturn/Mercury Gibbous phase inconjunct...clearly a trauma signature.
Here are my questions (perhaps a bit rhetorical):

Should I view all the planets in the stellium as conjunct my Sn (with all the implications that goes with it)

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Technically, no if one uses a ten degree orb. Relative to that stellium of planets and the S.Node this would symbolize that your Soul has already been trying to work on, and through, various traumas that have preceded this life, and yet there is still work to be done on those traumas from the past in this life. This is measured by the movement of the S.Node itself. The remaining parts of those traumas are then symbolized by Pluto and Venus that are within that ten degree orb relative to the S.Node. Pluto is balsamic to that Node as is Venus, yet Venus is in a new phase relative to Pluto. This is the symbolism that reflects some parts of the trauma have worked upon in such a way that your Soul wants to move on, the new phase, yet other parts remains to be worked upon, the balsamic phase. This dynamic is then restated by Venus balsamic to Uranus yet Uranus is a new phase relative to Pluto. Mercury is also a new phase relative to Venus, Uranus, and Pluto, yet balsamic to the S.Node.

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If yes, then I assume that I should consider Saturn inconjunct the Stellium planets (and perhaps inconjunct the Sn)?

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No.

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Should I tie in all the planets in the stellium (incl the Sn) in interpreting the trauma signature, since all the planets and the Sn forms a bridge to the inconjuct Uranus/Saturn aspect?

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See above.

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I also have Mars 17 deg Cap conjunct Moon at 19 deg which I previously thought only aspected my Nodes and Pluto. I guess I should now add the other planets in the stellium to that Sn/Pluto aspect?

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No.

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God Bless, Rad




Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Henrik on Oct 04, 2012, 09:52 AM
Hi Rad,

Thank you soo much for the step-by-step phase analysis. Truly valuable and I will try to absorb it deeply.

I will re-read the other part in the same section of the posted material where JWG speaks about planets that form a "bridge" to take it all in...

God/Godess Bless!

All the best,
Henrik


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Henrik on Mar 24, 2013, 05:14 AM
Hi Rad and all,

This is a question, in part using my own Pluto/Mars configuration, but I hope it’s general enough and applicable to any student as to provide relevancy to the board.

In general: Since the mean motion of Pluto is opposite the Nodes, when Pluto and Sn is in aspect to the same planet, but on the opposite side of an aspect (and maybe also in different phases) and because their mean motion is in different direction, but both correlate to past orientation of the Soul, is there something one can say in general to this dynamic? These situations occur when people have Pluto conjunct Sn or Nn (but not exact conj.)

More specific:
1) when Pluto is for example in a Crescent phase Square with a planet whereas the Sn is in a First Quarter phase Square to that same planet? In general, is there anything that can be said as to the dynamics of how this configuration has operated in the past?
2) When this configuration is within the same phase (this is me), let’s say Pluto trine Mars (but before the exact aspect) within the First Quarter phase and Sn trine Mars (but after the exact aspect, i.e. the Sn is moving away from the exact aspect to Mars), is there anything that can be said as to how these configurations have operated in the past leading up to this life?

God/ess bless,
Henrik


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Mar 25, 2013, 07:38 AM
Hi Henrik,

If I am understanding what you wrote, and I had some difficulty in following what you wrote, the bottom line answer is simple: all the various dynamics with the Soul are in the process of evolutionary development in the ways that are symbolized by the various phases, and the aspects that take place within those phases. One dynamic with the Soul can be in a 'trine' aspect to another dynamic while as the same time yet another dynamic may not be. If I understand you example one dynamic has already trined another dynamic while as the same time another dynamic is just moving into a trine with that same dynamic. This sort of thing occurs in all charts, and the reasons for that are what I just stated.

To understand this in each chart is to understand the total context of each Soul: the whole chart. To just take out a few of the dynamics in order to understand how they manifest is not correct.

Feel free to ask again about this if you need too.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Henrik on Mar 25, 2013, 02:01 PM
Hi Rad.

Thank you for your answer. Perhaps I'm sensing something that is simply not there. i will try to restate the question and only use one specific configuration (not my own):

Let's say a person has Pluto in a crescent phase square to Mars while the Sn is in a first quarter phase square to Mars. could this be a case where the development of the ego (the more conscious orientation to reality) coming into this life is breaking ground whereas the the unconscious resistance is still struggling to pass the evolutionary gate represented by the exact square? So one possible intention from the perspective of why the Soul has choosen this configuration is to penetrate to the unconscious by way of the conscious?

God/ess bless,
Henrik


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Mar 26, 2013, 08:36 AM
Hi Rad.

Thank you for your answer. Perhaps I'm sensing something that is simply not there. i will try to restate the question and only use one specific configuration (not my own):

Let's say a person has Pluto in a crescent phase square to Mars while the Sn is in a first quarter phase square to Mars. could this be a case where the development of the ego (the more conscious orientation to reality) coming into this life is breaking ground whereas the the unconscious resistance is still struggling to pass the evolutionary gate represented by the exact square? So one possible intention from the perspective of why the Soul has choosen this configuration is to penetrate to the unconscious by way of the conscious?

God/ess bless,
Henrik

Hi Henrik,

This is one possibility, yes, but I would change it to this: the Soul is desiring to evolve beyond the fears that are holding it back from doing so yet those fears remain within the Soul that are then reflected in the egocentric structure that the Soul has created prior to this life, and in this life as well: thus skipped steps. The fact that the Mars/ Pluto are now in a Crescent Phase symbolizes that the Soul is evolutionarily ready to confront the nature of those fears, and then to evolve beyond them. So the issue then becomes for the Soul to examine within the nature of those fears and why, and/ or have a skilled EA counselor to help such a client in this, and then to design 'safe' strategies to move, evolve, beyond them.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Henrik on Mar 26, 2013, 01:28 PM
Hi Rad.

Thank you so much.  

What if instead a person had the same configuration, but now the Pluto/Mars was in Crescent  First Quarter phase Sesquiquadrate aspect and the Sn/Mars was in a Gibbous phase Sesquiquadrate aspect?
What I'm trying to get at is: Is there some type of dynamic that in general can be said when Pluto/Mars is on one side of an aspect and the Sn/Mars is on the other?

Sorry If what I'm asking doesn't make sense, maybee I should meditate on this first...

Once again, thanks for your patience.

God/ess bless,
Henrik



Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Rad on Mar 27, 2013, 08:22 AM
Hi Rad.

Thank you so much.  

What if instead a person had the same configuration, but now the Pluto/Mars was in Crescent  First Quarter phase Sesquiquadrate aspect and the Sn/Mars was in a Gibbous phase Sesquiquadrate aspect?
What I'm trying to get at is: Is there some type of dynamic that in general can be said when Pluto/Mars is on one side of an aspect and the Sn/Mars is on the other?

Sorry If what I'm asking doesn't make sense, maybee I should meditate on this first...

Once again, thanks for your patience.

God/ess bless,
Henrik



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Hi Henrik,

Generally this would correlate to a 'crisis in action' wherein the nature of such crisis are the nature of the fears that are holding the Soul back from actualizing what it desires to do that, in turn, correlates to a self analysis as to why this is, the nature of the blocks/ fears themselves. This critical self analysis then creates a form of self punishment involving 'why can't i do this or that, why do I stop myself' and so on.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: Henrik on Mar 29, 2013, 01:03 PM
Thank you Rad.

God/ess bless,
Henrik


Title: Re: Aspects, Phases, and Key Planetary Pairs
Post by: shona graham on Apr 11, 2013, 08:34 PM
Hi Rad,
I am too attentively following this thread. Thanks so much for your generosity and dedication
God Bless
Mirta

Sorry this is first time I have done this, and attached to wrong bit! question about new phase I have a T square mercury in Gemini 12th house, mars in Sag 6th house moon in pisces 9th, also venus and saturn in 11th setile moon house how does these new energies correlate to my south node in Virgo 4th house conjunct pluto, jupiter, and uranus.  I know you probably shouldn't ask questions about your own chart but all my planets fall in the signs or house and often of the planets conjuncting my south node.