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« Reply #375 on: Dec 05, 2017, 02:16 PM »

Hi Everyone,

Venus in Sag in the 8th Evolutionary States Continued:

Venus in Sag in the 8th will be working on personal self honesty and purging of delusive beliefs by progressively aligning with Natural Universal Principles and Laws. In the context of being in the 8th house the Venus in Sag person will be delving to the bottom of its own and others psychological dynamics, orientations and motivations to come to a bottom line picture or why of those dynamics. The intention of Sag is to come to understand those dynamics holistically from a natural law point of view or understanding and to purge delusive beliefs through this orientation to life. In this way the Soul will naturally metamorphosis the limitation of victimization based on feelings of abandonment and having the rug pulled out from underneath them so to speak as well a empower themselves and others, through gaining psychological knowledge of the self and others. The Soul will also be learning to  Value and honor others personal truth and understanding and will be purging the need to convince and convert others through aligning with the Natural Understanding that all paths lead to one. Linking this back to Venus and Libra on the South Node in the 6th the Soul is learning a completely different way to relate to ones self and others based on dynamics of Co-Equality,  sharing, giving and inclusion as well as when to give and not to give based on a supreme form of giving, in this way the Soul will be learning to purge all sense of victimization, self improvement, externalization of an inner critical focus and how to actually be of service to others through a totally rehaul of past dynamics of how one is providing service and relating to others.    Once the Soul starts to metamorphosis the psychological  dynamics of the past then through  Sag the Soul will expand consciousness and head into its North Node intentions being in the 12th house.

Consensus State:
Venus in Sag in the 8th House through a positive expression and understanding of these dynamics will be working to get to the bottom line truth of itself and others psychological dynamics through honing in on personal honesty and will desire to climb the social latter through this orientation to life. The Soul here will most likely be aligning with some system of understanding or religion based in the majority of consensus or the parental environment. The Soul may desire to advance the Social latter by gaining credentials as possibly a psychotherapist and provide valued and needed service to others to get to the bottom line of their own psychological dynamics and intentions to encourage personal truth and to empower themselves and others, in this way they will be learning co-equality.  In a negative expression the Soul will attach to a system  or religion based in delusion and will try to convince or convert others to these truths in possibly a  manipulative and underhanded way.

Individual State:
In this State the Soul will desire to move away from consensus reality and peer into the bottom of their psychological dynamics and others  by aligning with systems of understanding that are on the outside of consensus. The Soul will be working towards understanding their orientations to life from a more natural view and be throwing off conditions linked with delusive beliefs. The Soul here will most likely desire to be rather open, forceful or destructive with  their personal truths because of the link of rebelling from consensus reality and delusive beliefs linked with the feelings of abandonment abuse and having the rug pulled out from underneath them. In a positive expression the Soul will be aligning more and more with its own persona truth and allow their difference to guide them. They will acknowledge and encourage others who are breaking free from consensus who are different as well and most likely desire to provide some sort of service through an alternative therapy. The Soul will be learning co-equality personal truth and empowerment of self and others through aligning with groups of like mind who are breaking free from consensus traditions in relationships.  

Spiritual State:

Starting into the Spiritual State the Soul will be working on purging all past limitations to how one is relating to ones self and others based on delusive beliefs. The Soul will be learning co-equal relationships with others and will be naturally aligning more and more with Natural Universal Laws, Truths and Principles  to metamorphosis its past ways of relating to itself and others. The Soul will deeply Value  personal Truth and will be going very deep into its own and others psychological understandings to get to the bottom line why of personal truth. The Soul here will be interested only in the absolute bottom line why of anything and will use this orientation to life to get to the bottom of their own dynamics as well as others. In time as the Soul aligns more and more with Natural Laws it will be able to metamorphosis limitations based in victimization based on feelings of abuse, betrayal, abandonment,  having the rug pulled out from underneath them. The Soul will be learning a complete and total new way to relate to themselves and others based in absolute balance, co-equality, sharing giving inclusion, when to give and not give, the Soul will be learning to completely Value others truths and understandings and will come into a deep alignment that all paths lead to one. The Soul will deeply desire to throw off the past and heal as well as help others heal, to self empower and to empower others. The Soul will desire to heal its past orientations through a Fusion with Natural Law and Nature and will be immersing itself into methods and techniques that have the effect of drawing the Natural God into themselves and expanding consciousness. The Soul will desire deeply to help others heal through acknowledging others reality and truths and encouraging a fusion with Nature and Natural Laws themselves, to encourage others to answer their own questions to get the proof they seek and desire for themselves to know life and the Natural God through experiment and experience. In this way the Soul will be of true and Natural Service to God.

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« Reply #376 on: Dec 05, 2017, 06:37 PM »

Hi Deva and everyone,

I will post on Thursday, thanks for your patience.
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« Reply #377 on: Dec 06, 2017, 09:27 AM »

Hi Heather,

Excellent application of E.A! what you have written accurately reflects the core evolutionary intentions of Pluto in Libra in the 6th house conjunct the South Node, and Venus in Sagittarius in the 8th house. Yes, crisis and extremities (Pluto in Libra in the 6th house conjunct the South Node) will be purged as the Soul self-empowers through alignment with personal truth and Natural Law (Venus in Sagittarius in the 8th house). In this way, the individual can discern which relationships reflect this alignment, and which do not. Venus in Sagittarius symbolizes that self-honesty is essential to make this evolutionary transition.

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« Reply #378 on: Dec 06, 2017, 10:37 AM »

Ok thank you Deva


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« Reply #379 on: Dec 07, 2017, 04:42 AM »

Hi Deva and Everyone,

i have been intending to post all throughout the week but with other works coming in i will be only able to post half of the assignment and follow in the next of days with the Evolutionary States.
Thank you for (always) waiting on me...


Sagittarius conditioning the expression of the SN/Pluto ruler- Venus

Eight house/Sagittarius deeply wants to know the truth.
JWG himself has these archetypes very strongly emphasized, and by the work his soul was assigned and dedicated the life to, we are fortunate enough to be able to have the tools to try and know this for ourselves, our souls, and some also for others, helping others to know the truth of their own souls. Personally, i am grateful everyday to have found this community and teachers. Any EA student will know by itself, by personal experience, that the EA paradigm is the direct expression of natural law. One of the ways we can chose to interpret reality and truth, and specially the reality and truth of the soul, the Divine manifestation in our lives.
 
In the case we are studying, with Sagittarius in the 8th house conditioning the planetary ruler of the south node conjunct Pluto, what the soul has been wanting to know, the process of growing beyond limitations with new knowledge and experiences, was either partially or completely avoided, or fully invested in.
This signature can create a complex situation where at the same time the soul is stuck in the past, pluto/sn, although oriented/desiring to move towards the future, Jupiter/Sagittarius natural archetypal expression.
Positively expressed, Sagittarius is about expansion, visions/intuition, the future, knowing how to grow beyond limitations to experience true nature. Even more so if we remember that Uranus has its own south node in Sagittarius - messages from the unconscious towards freedom and liberation. But Uranus is also the archetype of most deep or traumatic memories that pertain to the soul’s past and unconscious.
So how is this contributing to a soul in this condition? Are the unconscious messages serving instead as a way to perpetuate the past, repeat old confrontations and traumas, fears and insecurity?
With venus in the 8th house conditioned by sagittarius, the soul can have many unconscious memories of not being told the truth, many betrayals of trust regarding what others were saying, pluto libra, and the truth of they were doing or meant. The reverse situation could also have occurred, with the soul not having the courage, lack of development of the PPP in aries, to speak the truth about its feelings regarding other people and situations, keeping on giving and serving, or taking and demanding. Losing freedom or take other’s freedom with abuse of power. These dynamics could also have occurred simultaneously, and the question is why, or what remains unknown form its consciousness and is keeping the soul from evolving, repeating behaviours.

My first deduction is that the soul will need to re-live many relationships with former partners, friends, teachers, work colleagues, etc., where these dynamics mentioned above are projected, in order to correctly discriminate between what is being said, to in fact listen, and what is the reality, to in fact know. And know also its own deeper motives.
Many times, the soul will function out of the instinctual certainty to already know, to already have the answer. When what the soul already knows is based on the deductions of experiences past lived. If the belief system adopted long time ago compromises the soul’s true nature, any action taken will only perpetuate compromise. In a loop-cycle, confrontations will serve to secure and accentuate personal identification with beliefs that are nothing of who this soul really is. Pluto conjunct the south node is that moment in evolution where all this dynamics have to be confronted, and long time ways of interpreting reality undergo deep change. Sixth house pluto and south node are the way for the soul to first, be in a situation to put in question its own beliefs, uncertainty, issues of avoidance, directly or indirectly impacting the work and living environment and being of service to others. That is, to experience blocks instead of the necessary work fulfilment it was destined to perform, that will be in every way an offer to society.
Exceptions made for the soul in a total fruition condition, that even though wanting to move forward with new expansion, discoveries and personal freedom, still has some old wisdom to share.

It is also very difficult to ignore that in order to go deeper into what has kept this soul so stuck, the south node of jupiter is also conjunct pluto's own south node, and we are back to question whether this soul has completed the desires and lessons of its own distant past. What cosmological, religious or metaphysical principles have been determining old beliefs, and whether they are a manifestation of natural or man made laws (jupiter, pluto and saturno south nodes conjunct)
Is this soul is in fact helping and serving others according to what they ask and need, or giving to others what it is convinced others need from the soul? And is the soul able to received from others, or constantly in a giving mode? Are there any ulterior motives determining this processes?
With Sagittarius this can be a very difficult dynamic to personally identify and break because intimate relationships, venus in the 8th house, are areas where the soul is convinced of its own ability to know and penetrate deep, really arrive to the truth and motives of others, to intimately know where others are coming from and why. But what about the deep needs and desires of the soul, are they being so thoroughly searched?

It is a curious fact that most of my female friends happen to have Sagittarius sun (or moon). And i have this one friend in particular, always very funny, that whenever presented by anyone with a new suggestion/approach for her own life problems or difficulties always starts by replying "Listen, i'm going to explain you" :-) There is no way to “explain” something to Sagittarius (specially for a question Sagittarius did not pose or already answered). Sagittarius natural expression is never to compromise the freedom to search for its own knowledge with direct experiences on and by itself! All the intuitive faculty comes from putting this process in action, going through it and learn from it. Positively expressed, sagittarius is the archetype of natural teachers.
The problem however is if, because of this self fulfilling search and based on knowing that (personal) truth has been found, to want to forcefully spread it or make others believe it also for their own lives. If Sagittarius tries to impose the "truth" to others, we have its negative archetypal expression that, in a broader context, is behind what we are seeing in the world today - one religion or group trying to impose and fight others, "my truth is the only truth and your's is just a lie". The resulting alienation, nothing is true anymore, that only defeats.
The task of the contemporary human (one of them at least) is to restore this archetype positive original expression. A great example is one Timothy Snider's lessons from 'On Tyranny, 20 Lessons from the 20th century':
 "Believe in the truth. To abandon facts is to abandon freedom. If nothing is true, then no one can criticize power, because there is no basis upon which to do so. If nothing is true, then all is spectacle. The biggest wallet pays for the most blinding lights”.
Or, if we can put it in EA terms, the necessary integration of Gemini polarity point, analise facts, and criticise reality, Virgo, in order to know the truth, Sagittarius, from delusion, Pisces.

Transposed to our study, this soul’s greatest fear, and the reasons why there is still no integration of NN and PPP, 12th house/Aries, is related to the deep intuitive sense that personal delusions are the soul’s most painful experiences. The negative but sometimes necessary expression of the pisces/12th house archetype.
When something/someone the soul has believed in, faithfully committed to, turns out very different in reality, loss of meaning can undermine the whole of the soul’s structure. In a opposite way, the soul can also know that to uncover personal truths about something or someone can have a devastating impact on its own and other’s reality, and avoid it altogether. Sacrificing itself, maintaining the situation or relationship. Keep it all going until no longer possible until the truth finally explodes, with much devastating results. Or, if functioning from an abusive position, to use and manage this exact dynamics to maintain power over intimate others and run it at will - lie, hide and manipulate to get something in return. To hurt others.

In essence, this soul has an absolute desire to recycle old concepts and phsycological dynamics that have been determining the choices of who to relate to, how and why. The prescription, Virgo, might be to forgive, pisces, heal and relax, and also sometimes doubt itself, laugh of itself and keep going one day at time, with the natural humorous side of sagittarius.

(i will continue with the evolutionary states shortly)
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« Reply #380 on: Dec 12, 2017, 02:50 PM »

SN ruler Venus in 8th house Sagittarius:

Venus in 8th house Sagittarius manifest within inner and outer function of Venus, the inner nature correlates to how individuals inwardly relating to themselves, with this signature, they typically have intuitive inner knowing that there is universal truth beyond all physical reality, there is natural law within the universe, that nothing is chaos, everything functions under natural law, thus they need some kind of philosophy/religion/belief system guidance, they deeply know that there is meaning, special purpose of their life, thus they need to directly experience it, to live their personal truth and natural path. With outer nature of Venus, this need will project into various relationships, circumstances, they will relate others, life itself as well as universe based on their inner belief, philosophy, sort of like living through filter as to what is meaningful for them, what is their personal truth. Souls with this signature have used these beliefs/philosophies defined who they are and what is their purpose, how can they provide service to whole in the past, on one hand, they developed deep wisdom from past searching, on the other hand, there are some old beliefs or perspectives became limitation for further growth. Because souls know their own path, desire perpetual growth and evolution, when they hold on to outdated belief, half truth that began to limit their growth, crisis happen. They can be lost of perspectives, sinking into existence void, start to doubt if there is truth that they can experiences within human consciousness, if there is any meaning of life, if there is a special purpose, do they really have any worth. This inner function leads them going deeper into themselves, that is when the old beliefs dies, they dive into the darkness, going through deeply analysis “not this, not that”, and new perspective are reborn within their soul, in this period, they may attract others represent these future possibilities, new perspectives, mirroring their new choice, but the transformation power need to be from within, so they can healthily transmute limitation, merging with deeper truth. When they are resisting of changes, they may keep attracting people criticize their beliefs, challenge their point of views, and who are also wise and deep, can point out flaws of their beliefs, create the pressure within environment/relationships that individuals can’t be in denial or sustain the old dynamics anymore.

In intimate relationships, individuals with this signature need freedom to seek personal truth, need meaningful relationships that constant grow and expand, ultimately, they are seeking natural way to be in intimate relationships, as if two souls can be naked with each other, discover their natural state of being within relationship, deeply merge on a soul level, experience a transcendent state in the merging experience. Venus correlates to listen, also how we relate to others, Sagittarius has natural ability of compassion, that is to understand other’s reality, limitation, how others experiences things psychologically and emotionally (8th house), also understand what they can provide to help others transmute their limitation, what can not be done for others. Positively expressed, they can really create a natural healthy relationship environment, use their intuition, wisdom, guide others to their personal truth and natural path, encourage others to find their inner power, connect with their inner knowing/natural law/personal truth, understand evolution is free choice, they are not able to convince others or force their value onto others even that seems the right path for others.

Sagittarius correlates to natural law, soul with this signature will typically attract partners from past lives, or relive past dynamics in current relationships, that is a way to improve, especially when they violated natural law or have unresolved karma from past, there is a desire to make it right this time under guidance of natural law. For example, they may carry natural guilt within soul, remind them to realign with natural law, make adjustment in relationships, learn to form equal healthy balanced relationship, or they may learn natural law to dissolve man made guilt that keep them in victimization.
 
When expressed negatively, they may attract unbalanced teacher/student, counselor/counselee, rescuer/victim type of relationships, and going through power struggle between roles. For example, when individuals feel lack of wisdom/power for future growth, they may project these desires on partner who seems to know the answers, they may sacrifice their own truth, to be service for this partner, yet doesn’t matter how much effort they make, they are never good enough/validated in the relationship, to reinforce the powerless feeling that they don’t have ability to transmute limitation independently. In other case, when they feel their wisdoms are the special service they can provide, without understanding objectively other’s personal truth, they may attract partners always in crisis, need to be rescued/guided, to sustain the co-dependency, they need the partner to stay in crisis and helpless state, they may sustain their own power by manipulated partner’s psychological week point.  

Lastly, Pluto conjunct SN in Libra 6th house, ruler Venus in 8th house Sagittarius, with this signature, souls project past beliefs/perspectives that restrained further growth consciously inward or unconsciously outward, to recycle, and finally exhaust karmic dynamics which becomes limitations. When they do it in a conscious way through rituals/meditations/inner conversations, the function is similar to 'agni' ritual that JWG taught, souls project these experiences and accompanied feelings/emotions into fire during meditation, until there is no more images appear, or create inner conversations with self until nothing left to express, that is exhausted; In an unconscious way, they project these dynamics into various relationships, keep reacting to past experiences, thus re-creating old dynamics over and over again, reliving leads soul to ask why, then start to consciously move forward. All experiences mirrors soul’s perspective in different forms of crisis, with Sagittarius archetype, souls have potentials to know the pattern, the big picture, the meaning and purpose behind experiences, by doing rituals or forming relationships, by repeating, there will come to release point, the desire to move forward overcomes the desire to maintain security. Souls will be able to see clearly that they have been stuck by sense of victimization, denial, blame others or avoidance, with this realization, the old pattern dissolves because souls have no attachment anymore, then perspective switches within, souls will focus more on solution, future, instead of past wound, they are able to expand their consciousness to see these difficult experiences as part of whole experiences of evolution, as to why did it happen, then they can transmute limitation, embrace future growth/expansion, also in this process souls are able to share wisdom, resources, teach/empower others to do the same, transform others in various relationships. When Venus in 8th house Sagittarius, there is natural power of hope or belief, from intuitively knowing their path, if souls can trust this inner knowing (a deep relationships to inner guides), and keep working on their lessons, they will reach the releasing point, and start to experiences karmic fruition, this then empower them to trust their natural knowledge of self, to be honest, authentic, walk on their soul’s path freely, no need for permission or validation from others, also no need to convince others to their truth to feel secure.

I will post evolutionary states soon.
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« Reply #381 on: Dec 13, 2017, 09:24 AM »

Hi Wei,

What you have written so far accurately reflects the core evolutionary intentions of Pluto conjunct the South Node in Libra in the 6th house, and Venus in Sagittarius in the 8th house. Yes, purging the need to convince and convert others and trusting one's intuitive knowledge allows expansion beyond limited beliefs. You make a good point that relationships that are based upon the mutual commitment to both partner's growth, and freedom to discover one's personal truth reflect a healing negative patterns of the past (Pluto in Libra in the 6th house conjunct the South Node, Venus in Sagittarius in the 8th house). I look forward to reading the evolutionary states soon.

Namaste,

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« Reply #382 on: Dec 15, 2017, 09:56 AM »

Hi Deva and All,

after some past weeks of much work and not being able to have the necessary time, stillness and focus for the assignment, i'm posting the evolutionary states part.
Thank you again for your patience.

Helena

Sagittarius conditioning the expression of the SN/Pluto ruler- Venus
Evolutionary States

Consensus
In an evolutionary state where mainstream society’s rules, regulations and beliefs have much determination on the soul’s choices, the desire would be to differentiate between universal beliefs that are common to every religion or structured social or political organisation and are direct expressions of natural law, and beliefs that are delusional by nature in those organised belief systems and keep determining the way the soul relates and the why for keep getting involved repeatedly in the same dynamics. One aspect that might me possible for any soul with this signature of re-living in any evolutionary stage is the fact of actual having a sense, intuition, of being trapped in the same situation over and over, like already been gone through it. This feeling can contribute positively for the necessary discrimination ahead and help the soul to trust more her our his instincts and gut feelings, specially when the feeling is a red sign, that something needs to change or is deeply wrong. In this exercise the themes of searching for knowledge, deep reasearch in academic institutions, work related to investigation on higher levels, religious studies, etc, can be the road from which the soul will get the necessary answers from where to start rebuilding a new base of facts that allow for new understanding and interpretation of reality. Many confrontations might come from teachers or work colleagues that represent reflections of the souls past beliefs based on everything that was not natural or true. Much of personal change can also appear in the form of intimate relationships in which the same dynamics of teacher/student can come into play/reflection/re-living.

Individuated
When the main soul’s work is to know, experience and express its own individuality, with this karmic and evolutionary signature, the soul needs to be its own teacher. Like in the previous state, here emphasised, the soul may be a strong advocate for truth or lies. It is the soul’s choice to follow a path either based on reality or delusion. if the first is true, the confrontations will be very strong with any teacher type that tries to impose beliefs, starting with parents, and the desire to know what to believe by personal experience and resonance. In this cases where those teachers, parents, partners, coleagues, friends, etc., try to impose their own truths, it is the soul’s work not to feel guilty by not following those beliefs and go on its own, as this is an old dynamic that keeps the soul stuck. If this work is not done, other’s beliefs might be continuously adopted and the dynamic of guilt will be played out on others that think differently. Eventually, with pluto conjunct the south node, the lies will be exposed at some time with bigger magnitude, proportionally to the level of avoidance, because in the end the soul’s desire would be to know and live the truth.
The dynamics of listening to the real self inside tend to be avoided and compensated by giving too much focus on others, fulfilling others needs, or what it intuites others will need. In this case, to give is actually impose giving in order to feel needed. What will happen if the person in this situation actually listens to the deeper inner self, the soul? From there resides the real self the soul needs to find and show to others. In this process many relationships will ended, many illusions will be exposed, and a deep void will be naturally replaced by a loving way of relating and giving.
I tend to quote many times, and i apologise if it is too much, simply because thinking about EA and applying the paradigm make no sense to me if i don’t relate my daily events or past memories as direct expressions of it, and in this case, sorry if i will quote again  Wink a phrase i read recently attributed to Saint Augustine “Love, and do what you like”, could be applied as a problem solver in this condition (and to every evolutionary state). If there is misapplied sense of service, 6th house/libra, the soul can perceive that love is sacrifice. Meaning that “to love” rarely could be accompanied simultaneously by the feeling or experience of what the soul likes or deeply wants. Others and other’s perceived desires might keep occupying this space. And the resentment/expectations, conditional love, that could follow. The individuated soul needs to undo this dynamic by starting to discover what is it that makes it feel alive, loving, and positively grounded. First for itself, than for others.
If the soul can love and do what it likes, others around are free to do the same.

Spiritual State
Listening to the true desires of the soul in this case, can be to have the strength, courage (PPP) and knowledge that by doing so, acting, others will be of great benefit. In the spiritual state, to accept the personal responsibility to be at service of the Source, can translate in becoming a vehicle for timeless, universal, teachings. The task of the soul can be to humbly accept the role it has been given, overcome fears and self-perceived limitations and above all, trust. 12th house polarity point. Learning to shift in applying trust in people and situations (in the form of expectations or misapplied trust) to absolute trust in God/dess, and the truth of natural universal laws. Learn to develop a positive approach to life, develop faith. With SN/pluto 6th house, it is crucial to recycle, and develop new ritualised practices to daily experience and apply this connection to the Source, be it meditation, yoga, natural diets, work methods that are a direct application of natural living, meaning, to practice life in harmony with nature and all other living organisms and souls. This does not mean that the soul will be “perfect” or have a "perfect life". No such exists and it is even crucial for virgo/6th house to value the beauty in imperfection, to give up perfection. But it does mean that soul's intentions are pure and transparent to all, since one of the shadows of jupiter/8th house is to hide the truth at the expense of beliefs. The soul in the spiritual state is purging all adopted beliefs and practicing. Becoming a living example and messenger of purity. Pure motives, pure intentions and pure actions as a result of filtering any impurities that might still be. Purity as in being in accordance to natural law.
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« Reply #383 on: Dec 16, 2017, 10:39 AM »

Hi Helena,

Excellent application of EA! What you have written accurately reflects the core evolutionary intentions of Pluto in Libra in the 6th house conjunct the South Node, and Venus in Sagittarius in the 8th house relative to the evolutionary conditions. Yes, if the Soul trusts its intuitive knowledge rather than relying on delusive beliefs growth will take. In addition, the dynamic of imposing truth/others imposing truth will be purged. In terms of the notion of perfection, as Yogananda says "Try to be a little bit better everyday, and if you don't make it simply just keep trying."  As you have stated, this reflects an alignment with Natural Law and the Natural God/dess.

Namaste,

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« Reply #384 on: Dec 16, 2017, 05:18 PM »

Thank you Deva! And what a beautiful message too  Smiley

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« Reply #385 on: Dec 19, 2017, 01:43 PM »

Consensus State
In this state, Venus in 8th house Sagittarius individuals will relate to social environment according to a resonate religion/philosophy/knowledge system that is validated by mainstream, they are searching for a basis to explain and analysis the environment, others within the environment, compare other’s philosophical view to theirs, get deep insight into whatever work field they are in, diagnose what need to be done for growth and expansion, they may use higher education or devote to religion to claim the social ladder. In work function, positively expressed, individuals naturally know their path, deeply merging with their work, they will dig deeper, go further where others are limited to explore, they could be in any social service work, expose truth/dark secret, help victims/under dogs within social system, empower them to find a way to enter society in a more equal way, also share resources either help others to get better education, or transform others with their belief system that developed from within/direct experiences. In distorted expression, they may compensate their inner lacking with power, money, resources from relationships, and justify wrong behavior with religion/mainstream validated belief system/value system and so on, of course they will encounter criticize/confrontation from others, recycle any alternative reality, these crisis, power/powerless cycle will go on until they are willing to face inner truth, re-align with natural belief system, put energy/work into path which is meaningful for them. This reminds me a story of a friend, her boss used to be very ambitious and manipulative, her goal was focused on claiming social ladder, after a traumatic intimate relationship, everything of her life lost meaning, she lost resources at her work, also there were none support in work environment because what she did to others before, she started to transcribe Buddhist texts as daily practice, as a way to purify her heart and all the compulsive desires, she accepted the situation at work, just doing her best every day, of course time past, people see the change in her, become supportive to her again, in this way, she transformed the work environment as well as how she relate to others, I don’t know her chart, but it reflect this archetype, use Sagittarius positively, merging with a religious practice, learn the lesson of humble, purify desires, become more authentic and aligned with one’s natural state.

Individual State
In this state, individuals will look for meaning/purpose outside mainstream belief system, with Pluto/SN conjunction, in prior life times, they have already developed some work skills, their inner value/vision may become limitation for further development, they need to polish/perfect these skills by actualizing their unique individuality, be a service, doing their work in a way that’s meaningful for themselves, express their world view/belief system/interpretation through their work function, in this way, they will introduce future oriented viewpoint and expand their work environment, it could be doing international business, or absorb/integrate different culture/information/methods into one’s work, but transform these existed information with their individuality/vision/wisdom, deepen the information through their direct experiences/experiment, create one’s unique system. Because Sagittarius is a restless archetype, 8th house correlates to desire for transformation, for evolution, individuals may be very frustrated and self-doubt during the cycle that they need to slow down, review, make necessary adjustment, in this period, they are discriminating which goal is aligned with their soul’s path, and what desire/goal represent the past thus should be purged, the trick is to do everything naturally. This requires individuals to look within, to explore the truth about their individual soul, also trust inner intuition about their path/future, and stick with it, do their best every day, then they will be rewarded by expansion. In relationship wise, individuals with this signature inwardly relate to themselves or relate to others in a no BS, brutally honest way, because they constantly examine themselves, I have an impression that they are trying to find a balance, how to express their authentic self within social context, interact with other people’s belief/reality without compensating their truth or convincing/converting others, they also require deeply connection on soul level, meaningful relationships that provide constant growth.

Spiritual State
Souls in this state, are exploring their natural way to go back to source, they need a system they are resonate with, daily spiritual practice, assist them to understand/experience the universal truth. In this state, souls will also learn how to relate to oneself and others based on this universal natural law, thus purging any beliefs that created unbalanced relationship dynamics from the past. In work function, they inwardly know their path to be service, they will deepen connection with natural law, purging/purifying separating desires, the teaching/service will point to source not themselves, they will inwardly experiences the relationship between individual soul and source, their soul’s special destiny connect to the bigger picture of collective evolution of human souls, how everything are interrelated, because of this understanding, inner knowing, they have deep compassion for other souls in all different evolutionary state, they can directly tune into other’s needs, what’s their limitation, also their teaching can be very penetrating, expand other people’s consciousness, empower others find their natural way to merging with source. Their inner strength/security will come from, realizing the inner connection with universe, something larger, ultimately source itself, in this way they can feel complete within themselves. I feel at this state, especially early spiritual stage, souls need to discriminate who to trust, who to be service to, because their teaching may be secret knowledge that considered taboo, they need to trust their intuition as who are ready to learn these knowledge, protect themselves from being victimizing from their secret knowledge.

Thank you all so much for your patience with me every time!!

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« Reply #386 on: Dec 20, 2017, 12:23 PM »

Hi Wei,

Excellent application of EA! What you have written accurately reflects the core evolutionary intentions of Pluto in Libra in the 6th house conjunct the South Node, and Venus in Sagittarius in the 8th house relative to the evolutionary conditions. The example you used in the consensus state is a wonderful illustration of how this natal signature could manifest in the context of crisis leading to self-adjustment, balance of extremities, and commitment to one's personal truth. Yes, a core lesson is to discern whom to help and whom not (Pluto in Libra in the 6th house conjunct the South Node) relative to truths that may be misinterpreted by others (Venus in Sagittarius in the 8th house).

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Thank you Deva!

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« Reply #388 on: Jan 05, 2018, 08:35 AM »

The next step of the practice thread is Pluto’s polarity point. Pluto’s polarity point, by house and sign, symbolizes the current life intentions. In essence, it is through developing the opposite archetypal dynamics reflected by the natal position of Pluto that we evolve limitations of the past. In so doing, the dynamics represented by Pluto are evolved in new ways. In the context of Pluto’s conjunction to the South Node, Pluto’s polarity point symbolizes how the Soul will evolve out of past conditions that have been re-created in this life. The North Node correlates with how the Soul will consciously actualize the current life’s intentions, the evolving egocentric structure of the Soul that the Souls constructs in order to evolve itself.   

In our practice chart, Pluto’s polarity point and the North Node are in the 12th house. Pluto’s polarity point in the 12th house symbolizes the current life’s intentions revolve around the need to align with timeless, universal principles, define meaning from within rather than externally, and the embrace of the whole, the big picture, rather than the part or little picture. It means to evolve from deductive logic to inductive logic as a result. It means to heal the Soul by understanding why it has create what it has created. It means to focus on solutions versus compulsively sustaining problems as a way of avoiding the inner sense of emptiness. It means to learn how to forgive itself for whatever creates an inner sense of guilt, of not being good enough, of creating excuses for not doing what it should do when it should do it. In so doing crisis, victimization, and externalization of criticism is purged from the Soul. The Pisces/12th house/Neptune archetype correlates with culmination, or completion as well.   

One form this evolutionary intent may take is commitment to a higher cause or purpose of some sort. In essence, the Soul performs the work for the sake of the work itself. The role that the individual plays, large or small, does not matter because of the inner meaning of the work. In addition, a simplification of the overall life is symbolized. Avoidance orientated behavior of all sorts and the inner existential void will be purged by alignment to timeless and universal principles. Right work as directed by the Source will replace mundane work: work that has actual meaning to the Soul. In this way, meaning will progressively be defined from within the Soul itself rather than an external role or conditioning factors emanating from the consensus of the society of birth. Within this the need to cultivate a relationship with the Source is reflected by the 12th house polarity point: to cultivate this in their own way.  In so doing, the Soul will evolve from temporal values to timeless or natural values that transcend the temporal values of the society of birth.

The North Node in 12th house symbolizes that the evolving egocentric structure of the Soul is based upon the same core dynamics described above; embracing timeless and universal laws, defining ultimate ultimate meaning from within, and to expand the consciousness of the Soul through progressively embracing the big picture of the Whole of life. The North Node in the 12th house re-emphasizes the current life’s intentions symbolized by Pluto’s polarity point. These evolutionary lessons will be consciously integrated through simplification of the overall life, alignment with “right work” as directed by the Source, and developing self-forgiveness and compassion rather than an excessively critical focus (North node in the 12th house). In so doing, the conditions of the evolutionary past reflected by Pluto’s conjunction to the South Node will evolve.

Consensus State: In the Consensus State, this will manifest as alignment with timeless, universal principles, “right work,” and commitment to a higher cause within the mainstream society. Meaningful work within the mainstream will replace mundane work. In so doing, the re-creation of crisis, focus upon inner lack, and avoidance of inner emptiness is brought to culmination.The Soul will cultivate a relationship with Source through mainstream religion taught within the society of birth. This becomes a means to align with timeless, natural principles, and transcend temporal values.

In this evolutionary state, The Soul will desire to advance within the social strata, to get ahead of the system. In a positive expression, “right work” that reflects alignment within universal, natural principles will be used to progress within society. For example, work within non-profit companies which serve a humanitarian, or global, need reflect commitment to a higher cause. This becomes a vehicle through which the Soul consciously actualizes the current life’s evolutionary intentions (Pluto’s polarity point and North Node in the 12th house). In a negative expression, the individual will undermine this intention by recycling forms of mundane work (Pluto conjunct the South Node in the 6th house), and create the resulting experience of disillusionment (Pluto’s polarity point and North Node in the 12th house).   

Individuated State: In the Individuated State, this will manifest as alignment with timeless universal, natural principles, “right work,” and commitment to a higher cause  within an alternative field. Meaningful work within an alternative field will replace past patterns of undermining the need to individuate and the resulting crisis that is created “ (Pluto conjunct the South Node in the 6th house). “Right work” will reflect the Soul’s inherent individuality, and allow the Soul to heal from past experiences of persecution of rejection from this in the mainstream symbolized by Pluto conjunct the South Node in the 6th house.

In this evolutionary state, alignment with timeless, universal principles will take place through liberation from external conditioning factors within the mainstream society. Evolution from temporal values to natural, timeless values will then occur.  Commitment to a higher cause can be reflected through alternative healing practices. For example, astrology, homeopathy and tarot are all possible expressions of alternative healing practices. In a positive expression, the Soul will help others individuate through it’s right work within an alternative field. This is a vehicle for the current life’s intentions to be consciously actualized (Pluto’s polarity point and the North Node in the 12th house). In a negative expression, the Soul will attempt to avoid the need for individuation and actualization of right work through recycling crisis and feelings of inferiority and lack (Pluto in the 6th house conjunct the South Node). 

Spiritual State: In the Spiritual State, this will manifest as alignment with timeless, universal principles, “right work”, and commitment to a higher cause through union with the Source. The Soul’s “right work” will reflect the knowledge of natural, timeless laws, and how to cultivate a relationship with Source through direct experience. For example, Kriya Yoga which was first taught in the West by Yogananda can be used to spiritually develop, to know and merge with Source. Kriya Yoga is still taught today world wide. In so doing, the patriarchal notions, or conceptions, of spirituality will be brought to culmination. In addition, the re-creation of crisis and self-undermining patterns of the past are purged. This becomes a vehicle trough which the current life’s intentions are consciously actualized (North Node in the 12th house). In a positive expression, the Soul will spiritualize through Universal, Timeless laws and direct experience of God/dess. In a negative expression, the Soul will spiritualize through delusive, patriarchal conceptions of Source. The creation of crisis and self-undermining patterns of the past are then recycled as a result (Pluto conjunct the South Node in the 6th house, Pluto’s polarity point and the North Node in the 12th house).


Please write out in your own words the current evolutionary intentions symbolized by Pluto's polarity point in the 12th house, and evolving egocentric structure of the Soul which is used to consciously actualize the current life's intentions reflected by the North Node in the 12th house.

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« Reply #389 on: Jan 12, 2018, 09:39 AM »

Hi Heather,

Excellent application of EA! What you have written accurately reflects the core evolutionary intentions of Pluto's polarity point and the North Node in the 12th house so far. Yes, true inspiration and inner meaning is found as the Soul aligns with natural, timeless principles and embraces self-forgiveness and compassion for all it feels guilt about. This is then naturally extended to others. The creation of crisis will be purged as the Soul embraces its "right work," and merges with the Source. The dynamic of inferiority/superiority will also be eliminated. Yes, giving without expectation, giving simply just to give even if others are not doing so, reflects a core evolutionary intention. This will manifest within personal relationships and through "right work" (Pluto in Libra in the 6th house conjunct the South Node, Pluto's polarity point and the North Node in the 12th house). My suggestion is to expand upon what you have written by including how these core dynamics are expressed relative to the evolutionary states. Great job!

Namaste,

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