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« on: Apr 15, 2018, 09:09 AM »

Hi All,

We thought it might be interesting, from an EA point of view, to look at the charts of Robert Mueller, Trump,  and the USA. To us this is a classic struggle between God and Evil where Mueller symbolizes the energy and force of God, that which is inherently right, and Evil as symbolized in Trump and all that which is naturally wrong: evil in intention. Given the individual context of these two Souls relative to the USA, and it's future in terms of what is happening now, and has been happening, we are posting the natal charts Mueller, Trump, and the USA. We are also posting the synastry charts of Trump/Mueller, Mueller/USA,Trump/ USA.

As you can see Mueller has S.Node of Capricorn at 27 Capricorn, the USA's natal Pluto is 27 Capricorn, and here comes the approaching Pluto transit. Trump's natal Saturn, Venus, and LUCIFER is in Cancer on top of the USA's Mercury which is opposed it's natal Pluto, and conjunct Mueller's N.Node of the Moon. The same Pluto transit is progressively opposing Trump's Venus, Saturn, and Lucifer. The Uranus transit of course has been squaring all of that, and squaring Mueller's Nodal Axis, squaring the USA's Mercury and Pluto: a transiting T-square. It is interesting to see that Trump's Mars at 26 Leo in his 12th is conjunct his S.Node of Lucifer, and that is conjunct Mueller's Venus: the synastry of God and Evil playing out through these two Souls for starters.

We are posting this so that any of you can make your own observations as to what has already been taking place, the EA of it, and of course the ongoing daily events that are symbolized in the transits from  and EA point of view. We thought this might be a good opportunity for all of us to learn and practice EA so please feel free to post your own EA observation and/ or ask any questions you may have.

Kristin Fontana and I will be monitoring this thread and interacting with you as you post your observations/ ask your questions.

So the charts are posted below. To enlarge any of them simply click on the 'jpg' associated with them.

God Bless, Rad

P.S. No one knows for sure the birth time for Mueller so we have used a noon chart.


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« Reply #1 on: Apr 15, 2018, 09:16 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: Apr 15, 2018, 12:55 PM »

Hi Rad,

Thanks for posting those charts. Really interesting.

Not sure if Michael Cohen's birth data is publicly available---it would be interesting to see how he fits into this whole thing. I think he may be what ultimately brings Trump down (if Trump doesn't find a way to teflon his way out of this). Also, Stormy Daniels (aka Stephanie Clifford) seems to have been a pivotal catalyst in this drama. Her chart would also be interesting to see.

Given that the approaching Pluto transit is progressively opposing Trumps' Venus, Saturn and Lucifer, and that Uranus's transit has been squaring all of those, do you think this indicates he may not be able to teflon his way out of it this time, as he has managed to do all his life? Since the Repubs are not holding his feet to the fire in any way, he may just get away with everything.

Also, his sole purpose in attacking Syria seems to be to create a distraction and to force the media (who all too-willingly comply) to shift away from his scandals. Do you see anything in his chart and in the USA's that points to war?

Thanks. I really appreciate your post.

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« Reply #3 on: Apr 15, 2018, 02:18 PM »

Hi All,

We assume most of you are aware of this Russia probe here in the U.S. and Robert Mueller's role in this investigation, but for those of you outside the U.S. or for those who would like more background on Robert Mueller,  here is some history and some insight into his character.

Robert Mueller

In his formative years, Mueller attended a prestigious all boy prep school in New Hampshire and then graduated from Princeton University.

In 1965 his close friend from Princeton David Hackett goes to fight in Vietnam and in his 2nd tour was killed by a sniper’s bullet.

While many of his friends avoid serving, Bob Mueller wants to honor his dear friend David Hackett and serve his country and so he decides to enlist. The idea of a St. Paul's and Princeton boy being in the war was very rare.

Dec 11, 1968 Mueller assumes command of an infantry platoon and just weeks after deployment , his men come under heavy fire. He is awarded a BRONZE STAR for combat valor. He moved fearlessly with complete disregard for his own safety.

Four months later April 1969, Mueller’s platoon is attacked by the Viet Cong, he his shot through the thigh. Despite his injury, Mueller refused to withdraw until his men were out of harm’s way. The incident earns him a PURPLE HEART.

From undergrad at Princeton, to under fire in Vietnam, Mueller returns to the US determined to continue being in service to his country. Mueller graduated from the University of Virginia Law in 1973 and became a top prosecutor in San Francisco. He gained a reputation to be feared in a trial.

In 1989 he joins the Justice Dept., eventually becoming head of the Criminal Division, overseeing a number of high profile cases such as the Pan Am bombing and Mob Boss.

1993 Mueller leaves the public sector and takes a job at a private law firm as a white collar litigator. He called up the US Attorney in Washington at the time, Eric Holder, and said he wanted to prosecute murder cases. Holder reminded him that he already had a great job and that he would not be able to match his salary and being that he had already served as an Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal Division, that he might be a bit overqualified for a job as a line prosecutor. Mueller wanted it anyway due to the enormous hikes in crime rates in the DC area and took a significant cut in pay.

In 1997 Mueller was offered a job back in San Francisco as the US Attorney of North California.

Mueller is confirmed by Congress with 99 yays and ZERO Nays and becomes the 6th Director of the FBI in the summer of 2001. His first day on the job is Sept 4th 2001, one week before 911, which becomes the biggest act of domestic terrorism in US History ~ it was Baptism by Fire.

FBI director is a 10 year term period. But Obama extended his term two years as they were having trouble finding anyone who came close to his standards. Not one of the prior FBI directors finished their 10 year term, let alone exceeded them. Extending Mueller’s term requires Congress to pass a new law and it clears the Senate unanimously.

His two year extension ends in summer of 2013. He hands over a completely overhauled FBI to James Comey.

Mueller becomes a private attorney for clients such as the NFL and Sony while Trump is becoming President.

On May 16, 2017, Mueller interviewed with President Trump following the firing of James Comey to again serve as the Director of the FBI. Trump did not hire Mueller and immediately provided feedback he wanted to go a new direction, someone who hadn't been in the position before.

Meanwhile, Dept. Attorney General Rob Rosenstein was feeling pressure from Congress to appoint a special counsel which was needed for independence of the Russia investigation. He was looking for someone with unimpeachable integrity and a deep and abiding respect for the law and whose judgement could not be questioned, and on the very next day, on May 17, 2017, he appointed Mueller to serve as special counsel for the United Sates Department of Justice.

In this capacity, Mueller oversees the investigation into "any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump, and any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation".

A former colleague shares.“The prosecutors you fear most are the ones who aren’t full of bluster and who aren’t puffing their chests out, but the ones who are going to quietly and single-mindedly pick your case apart and that is the kind of focus that Bob Mueller brings to this job.”

"Bob Mueller could certainly be the person who brings down this presidency. He will take a hold of you like a dog with a bone and he will not give up. If you did it and he’s got decent evidence, then you are going to get convicted.”


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« Reply #4 on: Apr 16, 2018, 06:34 AM »

Hi Soleil,

First, here are the birth charts for both Cohen and Daniels: noon charts.  Cohen's natal Lucifer is 23 Leo which conjuncts his S.Node of Lucifer which is 25 Leo. This then conjunct Mueller's natal Venus, and Trumps natal Mars which is conjunct his own S.Node of Lucifer. Daniels natal Lucifer is 27 Pisces, her N.Node of Lucifer is 29 Aquarius, and her S.Node is 6 Leo. Note her natal Mars is, yes, conjunct Trumps N.Node of Lucifer in his 7th House.

Yes, so much is sadly dependent on the fact the Republicans are in charge of all this, in terms of impeachment stuff, relative to what happens to Trump. They could not be more corrupt than they are now so no telling what they will do. On the other hand it seems as if the Democrats may regain the House of Representatives in November's election. If so, the specter of Trump being impeached then seems like it could happen. But then if goes to the U.S Senate that has to convict this evil thing called Trump. Given the current state of the corrupt Republicans it is hard to say if they would be enough of them, in conjunction with the Democrats, to actually convict.

As it seems now the underlying truth of what Trump has done, criminally speaking, in his past that Cohen now has the keys too that have been taken over by the FBI, will be exposed. It would seem clear that what is uncovered will be so shocking to all concerned that it would  lead to Trump being indited for those crimes either after he is no longer President, or as some say, even while sitting as the President of the USA. What is uncovered could of course also be used as articles of impeachment.

Within this stands the 35 percent of the American population or so that are so crazed in their delusions about Trump, supported by things like Fox propaganda, that it is hard to know how all this will ultimately play out. Within this though is the fact that the overwhelming majority of Americans will be so increasingly repulsed by the reality and truth of what Trump is, what is progressively uncovered, that it would seem to me he would have no chance of being re-elected for another term as the President. And, within this, there is now, and will be, and progressive coalition between young people, minorities, and women that will vote in more and more Democratic and/or Independent politicians who will try to recreate America itself in the long run.

Here is an editorial I found today in the NY Times about all this: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/04/15/opinion/editorials/president-above-rule-law.html

Syria, to me, was nothing more than a smokescreen to divert attention  from Trump's problems. And that won't stick at all.

God Bless, Rad


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« Reply #5 on: Apr 16, 2018, 04:40 PM »

Hi Rad,

Thanks for those charts, i am curious what do you think about name asteroids in charts, do they play important role as well? I found interesting that in Trump's chart, Mueller (4031) at 13 degree Aries, conjunct Russia (232) at 12 degree Aries, opposite his natal Chiron/Juno/Jupiter in 2nd house Libra, and Transit mercury will pass these name asteroids soon.
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« Reply #6 on: Apr 16, 2018, 06:56 PM »

Hi Rad,

Thanks a lot for the charts and info on Cohen and Daniels and for the link to the NY Times editorial. Really interesting. As usual, I find your political analysis to be spot-on.

The fact that Sean Hannity has now been named as one of Michael Cohen's three clients is indicative of the kinds of things that are going to be uncovered. What we've seen so far is only the tip of the iceberg.

The editorial you referenced made an interesting point about how long it took during Watergate for the public to finally turn against Nixon. It seemed for the longest time like he would actually get away with it. Till the tapes showed up. I think something similar will happen with Trump.

Apparently Cohen taped a lot of his conversations. I have a feeling somewhere in there are tapes of him and Trump conspiring to commit some kind of crime, and that only then will the 80% of Republicans who still approve of him change their opinion even slightly.

But for that 35% who make up his hard core base, their hatred of Democrats and of people of color seems to be stronger than the worst crime Trump could ever do and they may never abandon him.

Do you think that even if proof comes out on audio tapes that he either committed or tried to commit a crime and/or tried to cover it up  that any of his base will abandon him or do you think they're too stupid and too brainwashed to ever acknowledge the truth/reality?

Glad to hear you say you don't think the Syria thing will stick. I just hope he doesn't try to start a war somewhere else in order to divert attention away from the mess that is this ridiculous presidency. How the Republicans let him get this far is unconscionable.

All the best,

Soleil

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« Reply #7 on: Apr 17, 2018, 08:29 AM »

Hi Soleil,

"Do you think that even if proof comes out on audio tapes that he either committed or tried to commit a crime and/or tried to cover it up  that any of his base will abandon him or do you think they're too stupid and too brainwashed to ever acknowledge the truth/reality?"

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There are different sub-sets of human groupings within that 35 percent that can react to that eventuality in different ways. For example about 15 percent are the white evangelicals who, despite all that has been occurring and revealed so far about Trump, has actually increased their support of this evil piece of shit. See this: https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/white-evangelical-support-trump-grows/ . Of course this just reveals the actual reality of who these humans are. They are not about 'god' and the bible at all. That's just the smokescreen they create for themselves to hide whom they actually are as humans to themselves and others. They are about power, and psychologically needing everyone to be exactly like they are in order to feel emotionally and psychologically secure. Thus, white nationalism and the racism that comes from this. Instead of hiding behind their bibles they should wear the white KKK outfits to reflect who they actually are.

Some within that 35 percent will take a deep swallow and abandon Trump once a progressive accumulation of evidence as to his wrong doings occurs. But remember too of course how Trump has managed to convince, in conjunction with propaganda of things like Fox news, that anything other that what Trump says is 'fake news'. So of course, despite the actual facts, they will hide behind the fake news bullshit in order to sustain their needed delusions in order to individually, and collectively within their sub-set groupings, sustain their sense of psychological and emotional security. Remember for most humans emotional and psychological security is dependent on being self consistent. Thus, actual factual evidence itself is used to trigger or sustain yet more delusions in order for that sense of security to be sustained.

Check this: https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/blame-comey-making-trump-paranoid-cnn-reporter-stunned-trump-supporters-trash-ex-fbi-director/ and this ...... https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/gop-lawmaker-says-hes-never-heard-trump-lie/ .

God Bless, Rad

Look at these pictures of 'evangelicals' .. the truth speaks for itself.


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« Reply #8 on: Apr 17, 2018, 09:57 AM »

Hi Wei,

"Thanks for those charts, i am curious what do you think about name asteroids in charts, do they play important role as well? I found interesting that in Trump's chart, Mueller (4031) at 13 degree Aries, conjunct Russia (232) at 12 degree Aries, opposite his natal Chiron/Juno/Jupiter in 2nd house Libra, and Transit mercury will pass these name asteroids soon."

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Such things as the names of various asteroids can have direct correlations to an individuals evolutionary and karmic journey. For example one of JWG first astrological mentors was an astrologer named Robert Jansky. In JWG's chart the asteroid Jansky was conjunct the asteroid Urania in his 10th House. Uranus, as an archetype, of course correlates with things like astrology. Jansky was one of the first for JWG to open doors to the astrological world.

So the asteroids you are referring too in Trumps chart correlate to the actual evolutionary and karmic reality for Trump. Now check this: the asteroid Lucifer is at 8 Aries in the natal chart for Mueller. And that then lands on top of the 8th house asteroids Mueller and Russia in Trumps chart. This speaks for itself.

God Bless, Rad
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« Reply #9 on: Apr 17, 2018, 07:16 PM »

Hi Rad,

Thanks for your response and for the links to those articles. I appreciate your analysis. It's spot-on.

By the way, the pictures of those evangelicals you posted is just bizarre. As is the fact that white evangelical support for Trump has grown. That's crazy.

You're right---Trump supporters will continue to call everything fake news that deviates from what that insane clown says. I also think a lot of these ignorant jerks privately believe all the bad stuff about him but publicly support him as a way of sticking it to Democrats/those not like them. I think they're play-acting.

Somehow, though, the truth always comes out. Somewhere along the way, something shocking is going to come out that will knock this demented narcissistic sociopath off his throne.

In the meantime, let's hope we have a blue wave in November.

All the best,

Soleil
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« Reply #10 on: Apr 17, 2018, 11:29 PM »

just an observation:
May 9 2017, the transiting nodes moved into the Leo/Aquarius axis. It was the day Trump fired Comey. Today, April 17, 2018 (Chiron ingress into Aries, Saturn stations retrograde) Comey's book "a Higher Loyalty" was officially launched. The rulers of the nodes - Sun & Uranus are one degree away from an exact conjunction (April 18).
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« Reply #11 on: Apr 17, 2018, 11:44 PM »

Hi Rad,

I'm not sure if you've already posted this article on the environment/culture thread (I think I saw a Raw Story article that alluded to it), but in case you haven't, the full article is really good and worth reading:

"Michael Cohen and the End Stage of the Trump Presidency", Adam Davidson, April 14, 2018. The New Yorker. https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/michael-cohen-and-the-end-stage-of-the-trump-presidency

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« Reply #12 on: Apr 18, 2018, 12:07 PM »

Thanks Rad!

Amazing how it works, really speaks for itself.
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« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2018, 10:30 AM »

Dear Rad

Does this resonate with you?

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2018/05/22/syrian-president-assad-says-the-deep-state-is-in-control-of-america-not-trump/

What do we know about the deep state?  who is it?  the illuminati of the 1600's? Rosicrucians?

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« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2018, 06:07 AM »

Hi Tashi,

No, this doesn't resonate with me at all. The so called 'deep state' is nothing more, in any country, the intelligence services within them. In America this is being used by evil buffoons like Trump, and his delusional allies that can not exist unless they have some new conspiracy idea to permeate their pathetic souls, to feel victimized so that the appropriate scapegoat can be pointed too that mask the actual reality of what and who they are: souls that need to feel victimized by 'something' so as to avoid being responsible for the very reality that they are responsible for creating. The delusions that manifest from this need are then 'believed' as if they delusions were actual reality.

God Bless, Rad
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