In terms of manifestation…Like Linda said to a friend pray for money and the earth will provide…. This confuses me, I know so many people who do this and no money comes. I work with homeless teens and they pray for food and shelter and it does not come.
Not only did it not work for me, it actually never resonated deep in my soul.
Hi Pam, Dhyana, Heather, Stephen and Steve:
Asking Mother Earth for anything at all came from Keisha Crowther, Little Grandmother - and I felt her words described natural truths, and were in line with the EA philosophy. The reference to asking for dollars came from Keisha in that the earth has always provided us with food, shelter, warmth, etc. Here is an extract:
"You are the creator of your world. What you give your thoughts to, what you give your emotions to becomes your reality. We start creating our reality. If I'm negative and think of negative things, my world's going to be negative. But the other side tells us we can ask for anything we want, whether it be dollars, whether it be your spiritualness, ask for what you want. Ask the Great Everything for what you want, but remember the key is to remember that you have a great I Am. You are just a spark that came from the great God and Goddess. Remember who you are. You have a greater self. Tell that greater self what you need, what you want and do it with as much emotion as possible, because your emotion is your connect to your great I am. If you ask for anything without any emotion it will not come. Your emotion is your great self. So when you use emotion, when you feel how great it would be to have this thing that you are wanting, then it starts pouring down upon you. Do not be negative. Stay in the positive. What you give your emotion and thought to becomes your reality.""Let us become one tribe, the Tribe of Many Colours from all continents, because we are brothers and sisters. We have one mother: our Mother Earth. Our sacred beloved mother. She is your mother and she is mine, and that makes me your sister. I love you. You are my family. You are all my relatives. I love you. If you want to be in the tribe of many colours, just love......Just see all of us as children of great god and goddess. Love your Mother Earth, and let's love each other and take care of one another. I love you. I love all of you....."I hope I haven't gone too off-topic, but it's beautiful to see natural truths such as the above expressed like this! And especially if one is in the 'spiritual' condition, I think it's a beautiful thing to ask Mother Earth to help us with our needs.
Hi Linda,
When I wrote what you quoted above regarding "manifesting" :
Quote from: Dhyana on May 06, 2010, 12:40:34 PM
Not only did it not work for me, it actually never resonated deep in my soul.--I believe you may have took it out of the context in which I meant in my sharing of it.
You see, that context in which that was written was this; I was referring to a group of people that I had spent many many years in contact with, through my mother's " Holistic Unity CENTER" that spent much of their time trying to "manifest" all kinds of things that they "thought" they really needed to be fufilled in themselves-- like, for example "a new car", "a new house", "the perfect body wieght" "a new lover", "a million dollars", "perfect health", even things like "immortality of the body (for god's sakes!)" --things like that..u know? And sure, some things were valid, I guess, -- but sometimes it was taken just too far... and got ridiculous (IMHO) and it simply did not resonate with me at all. Sometimes I would just stick out like a sore thumb in that place, LOL!
I had no interest in trying to manifest "my" reality. I ONLY wanted to KNOW, as in heart knowledge, and be intimate with, REALITY itself!
I felt I had no business trying to manipulate the universe to satisify my random desires, as if I knew better about what it was that I needed, or even
wanted, for that matter. I just found nothing one bit fufilling in that entire school of thought, "creating your own reality", "manifesting your dreams" --and "manifesting your perfect life", "more, more, more", etc etc. --and part of this was probably due to the way I saw it being USED!-- as a distraction from the pain of ones life perhaps ;like trying to pour pink paint over everything so one didnt have to come face to face with the pain in their life or something-- As much as an attachment to or a clinging to "things",as in the "things" one might want when living the "american dream", for an example.
I simply recognized, wholeheartedly, that whatever it was that I could possibly manifest and thereby gain, I COULD ALSO THEN,
LOSE!
So instead, my energy went into this life long heart inquiry of, WHAT IS IT THAT CANNOT EVER BE LOST? There was no desire more important to me than this HEART calling. I couldnt seem to put my heart into anything else, even when I tried (usually as per the counsel of my mother and the other members of the center I am refferring to here).
I must have somehow recognized, even if I didnt think about it in words to myself; --Why waste my time on persuits like that of manifesting more things, etc. --To me, they had/ have no LASTING or INHERENT VALUE? I'm alive, I'm fed, I have decent clothes, a good family, and husband,healthy children, enough money to live in a nice suburban american neighborhood in a newer house, and even a car,(and sure, maybe not much extra spending money but if that's the worst part, that's not so bad!) --why do I want to spend my precious life force trying to manifest getting even more stuff, when to half the world's population, I would be considered "rich"? WOuldnt it be wise to use the life force energies to get to the HEART OF THE MATTER -- So my energies naturally went to the inquiry "What had/has MOST VALUE ?"
And it's not like I see these in opposition to one another, either! I just didnt/don't see the point in steering the ship in all kinds of directions... when just steering towards Reality would be the most useful focus, at least to me --and surely one is provided what is needed, in the interim.
So I simply wanted to be intimate with what is REAL --what has TRUE VALUE. I found all that other stuff, (especially the way I saw it being used) to be a distraction, u know. --but not in opposition -- just not getting to THE BOTTOM LINE, so to speak --u know?
The god given energy that I was privy to be lent, not to mention the freedom and space I had been graced with by being born as an American (thus far a free country to do with my time what I please), I wanted to use it wisely --for me that was in tracing
that very energy back to the PLACE FROM WHICH IT CAME. Having no idea if there was such, but was ONLY interested in expending my energy in the direction of finding out FOR MYSELF.
My BASIC NEEDS(and even more than "basic",actually) had been taken care of up until then, so I saw no reason to doubt that wouldnt continue. Therefore, this didnt even enter into my mind consciously (In other words, of course my needs BASIC needs were being met bc here I was/am, still alive, fed, clothed, had a car, and even living in an affluent country!) So obviously, there was already this trust or knowing clearly in place without the conscious application of the principle setting the framework, and mustering up the emotional backing for it --it just was already naturally that way, u know?... And yes, even on an emotional level, (although I may not have articulated it as such back then bc it was like organic, natural or maybe I can go so far as to say 'instinctive')
--So, basically, what I'm saying is, I didnt have to first think about it and find a framework in which to apply the principle of
"all is provided by Goddess/Mother Earth/God/Source" (or whatever term one might apply)" because my experience had already proven so, all the life, so far. I didnt have to think about that.
Basically, I am writing this to you, just to clarify the context in which I wrote the above that you quoted me writing;
"Not only did it not work for me, it actually never resonated deep in my soul..." And in that, perhaps the beautiful excerpt you had provided from Keisha Crowther, Little Grandmother, even encompasses and then puts words to that instinctive recognition I speak of here, without me even having to consciously make note of it or apply it as a principle. It was/is like "a given" -- as this deepest heart-longing, burning desire for the pure truth of REALITY, AS IS, took a hold of this life I call Dhyana. --And INDEED, has provided thus far... still.
And it is not that I wouldnt prefer to be "more healthy", "more wealthy", and have more than I do --I would like that -- but it is not my major focus or priority. And the more I seem to go for the REAL GOLD, I often find that "the more" comes to me in manifest reality, in such wonderful ways, and often surprises me and makes me joyful!
I LIKE it all --and i like it
A LOT, truly, I really do, but it's different than needing it to be fufilled on the deepest part of me. (And in the enviornment I was referring to, it seemed to me that most of those involved in this "creating your own reality", were doing so in attempts to get FUFILLED --to fill a void that intrinsically cannot be filled with any "thing", but one's VERY ESSENCE SOUL/SELF/SOURCE. --you know? ..the "looking for love in all the wrong places" kind of thing). In a way, it was really heartbreaking to witness for all those years, especially because I watched my mother do so. -Yet, as an aside, over the last year or two, she has had some REAL Reality hits and is getting clearer).
ENUF SAID on that note.
Well, with Mercury in retrograde, perhaps we are not as clear or "getting" what the other is trying to share in the communication... and perhaps even I am not exactly clear about why you quoted me above and then posted the Little Grandmother excerpt after --but I felt a little something was off in regards to how I must have come accross in my earlier post.
Furthermore, I'm also not exactly clear about what EA state of evolution all this applies to or if this fits ok on this thread topic, but I just thought I would add this clarification to this thread anyhow. Thanks Linda for bearing with me here, and thanks all for your time.
Lovingly,
Dhyana
