Hi Sunyata,
We never got to Lilith, so let's start now.
THE THREE LILITHS
Here are some extracts from Wikipedia, the EA Glossary, and our EA message board:
Asteroid Lilith was discovered on February 11, 1927 by Benjamin Jekhowsky. It is part of the main asteroid belt outside the orbit of Mars. It is named in the honour of French classical music composer Lili Boulanger. Since Asteroid Lilith is the only verifiable body that exists, there is only one actual discovery chart (see below).
Asteroid Lilith (also called Original Lilith): 1181 on Astrodienst
"True" Black Moon Lilith: h13 (EA uses this one)
"Mean" Black Moon Lilith: 'Lilith' under Additional Objects [
thanks Jason!]
Dark Moon Lilith: h58, 'Waldermath'
Asteroid Lilith (Original Lilith) is a real asteroid. It is the only Lilith that is an actual, verifiable physical body. In the main asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. Takes 4 years to orbit the Sun. Spends 132 days in each sign.
Black Moon Lilith (true/osculating): Not a solid objection. It is a mathematical point of alignment, the apogee of the Moon’s orbit, furthest away from the Earth. 9 year orbit. Spends 9 months in each sign. EA uses the True Apogee for Black Moon Lilith.
Dark Moon Lilith is a real body in the sky, a ‘hypothetical planet’ resembling a dust cloud, or a second Moon of Earth. Takes 119 days to orbit the Earth. Spends 10 days in each sign.
“The asteroids are symbolic transformers between two energy systems and point to the techniques by which the lower octave vibrations may be raised to a higher octave. The
Asteroid Lilith describes the first stage in the mythical journey where she is suppressed, humiliated and flees in a fiery rage to the desolate wilderness. The
Dark Moon Lilith depicts the pain of her exile where she plots and executes revenge. The
Black Moon Lilith shows how she transmutes her distorted image back into its natural healthy expression.”
(Demetra George)Asteroid Lilith indicates where our WOUND originated.
Dark Moon Lilith signifies how and where we experience the distorted aspects of Lilith in our lives – her anguish, bitterness, betrayal, alienation, fear and hatred of sexuality, and revenge.
Black Moon Lilith shows how and where we cut away our pretensions, false roles, and delusions and actualize who we essentially are.
(Adina)~ ~ ~
Asteroid Lilith (Original Lilith) (4-5 year cycle) describes the original Lilith. We have all ‘imprinted’ in us the original, undistorted, female image, which is defined by the natal placement of an individual’s asteroid Lilith. Where we feel free to move, act and speak our truth. This correlates in the current life to what our underlying ideal image is of a woman. The true and NATURAL expression of Lilith is that of pure, raw, feminine beauty. A woman that would chose freedom over just about anything. She is Pluto and she is also Mars. She was honored and praised for initiating and fully expressing her personal freedom and sexual passion. “In her original state, she is a symbol of true feminine power – complete unto herself and embodying her own brand of feminine self-containment, assertion and wholeness” (O’Donnell). Lilith is the octave transformer for Mars and Pluto! It serves as a bridge between the lower octave of Mars and the higher octave of Pluto.
(Kristin)Dark Moon Lilith (119-177 day cycle) signifies how and where we experience the distorted aspects of Lilith in our lives – her anguish, bitterness, betrayal, alienation, fear and hatred of sexuality, and revenge. For centuries men and women have been conditioned by our patriarchal culture to suppress this feminine strength which has resulted in bitterness and resentment, inevitably leading to distortion and rage. How this distortion is played out is indicated by the natal placement of the Dark Moon Lilith. Dark Moon Lilith is the distorted Lilith representing Lilith’s flee into a fiery rage of exile where she plots and executes her revenge. Find your Dark Moon Lilith placement and know that this area ***also creates a channel by which we can release the rage.***
(Kristin)Black Moon Lilith shows how and where we cut away our pretensions, false roles, and delusions and actualize who we essentially are. The Black Moon Lilith (9 year cycle) is the resolution Lilith where one’s distorted image may be transformed into a natural healthy expression. The dark Goddess’s crescent shape knife cuts away all that is not authentic in our lives. The ENFORCED (I REPEAT ENFORCED) clarity of the Black Moon allows us to penetrate to the essence, eliminating all things that are unnecessary, false and impure. Wherever you find the resolution Lilith in your chart, represents an area where it will take tremendous COURAGE, where you can release the repressed anger from lifetimes and be set free. It is also an area of TRANSFORMATION – creative energy of the feminine GODDESS pours into you. Lilith is the NATURAL WILD WOMAN in the birth chart so the Moon and the Nodes must be incorporated in the interpretation as well as Venus. Stressful aspects between Black Moon Lilith and Mars, the planet that most clearly expresses the masculine power, may indicate that a woman’s independence and confidence is threatened or met with opposition by men. Her own inner male is not strong. Women who have hard aspects from Black Moon Lilith to the Moon or in the 5th may have problems with pregnancy or childbirth, possible miscarriage, unwanted pregnancy, or a fear of motherhood. Often times transiting Black Moon Lilith can bring back feelings of emotional pain, but only if it is in the area where you have compromised your primal nature. Lilith forces us to look at ourselves with utter naked EMOTIONAL honesty.
(Kristin)LILITH DISCOVERY CHARTAsteroid Lilith (Original Lilith) 7.18 Leo Rx (1181) - Appears as 'Lilit'
Dark Moon Lilith 22.10 Cap (h58) - Appears as 'Walde'
True BML 6.29 Virgo (h13) - Appears as
OSC.L - EA uses this one
Mean BML 27.35 Virgo (Lilith under Additional Objects) - Appears as Crescent on a cross
