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ari moshe
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« on: Dec 06, 2010, 10:11 PM »

Hello all,

Do the same 3 possible conditions of the lunar south node, and planets conjunct the lunar south node also apply to planetary south nodes, and planets conjunct planetary south nodes? (The 3 conditions are: relive, fruition or combination of both).

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Rad
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« Reply #1 on: Dec 07, 2010, 09:59 AM »

Hi Ari,

 Yes. And another amazing use of the planetary nodes is in synastry charts between people, and thus their composite charts.

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« Reply #2 on: Dec 15, 2010, 07:12 AM »

Rad, Ari,

When you start to put in all the planetary nodes there will be a lot of aspects to them, also in synastry. Also to the nodal axis of the Moon. That seems to indicate that almost all relationships have had some form of prior contact preceding this life. Am I correct to assume this?

And, are squares to the planetary nodes also considered skipped steps? Would a planetary node squaring the Lunar nodal axis correlate with skipped steps too?

The planetary nodes open up a whole new dimension to chart interpretation that is fascinating!

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« Reply #3 on: Dec 15, 2010, 09:25 AM »

Hi Skywalker,

 I posted below answers that I made to Linda and Gonzalo in another thread that deals with the questions you are asking.

"When you start to put in all the planetary nodes there will be a lot of aspects to them, also in synastry. Also to the nodal axis of the Moon. That seems to indicate that almost all relationships have had some form of prior contact preceding this life. Am I correct to assume this? "

Hi Gonzalo,

The way that JWG taught it was that the phenomena of skipped steps was specific to the Nodes of the Moon. A square to Pluto, in and of itself, is not a skipped step as you know. Of course when one employs the use of all the planetary nodes natal planets in the current birth chart can square those nodes. Simple example: millions have Neptune in Libra, and that Neptune then squares the Nodes of Pluto, Saturn, Jupiter in most cases. So, obviously, all those millions of Souls are not all going to have 'skipped steps' relative to this signature. This is actually a subject that I never remember JWG discussing at all, or writing about. To me when we do see this kind of symbolism it does have generational applications as to it's meaning, and the individual meaning within that as it is applied to each individuals birth chart: the houses that it would be in. Thus, the individuals interaction and relationship with the generation that it is born within, and how that relationship then serves the evolutionary intentions of the individual itself.

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Hi Linda,

The best way to understand this is to understand something that JWG wrote in his first Pluto book when he talked about how the dual desire nature of the Soul, the desires to separate and return, manifest with Pluto in any given sign. What sign that Pluto is in will correlate to, obviously, millions of people who have the same sign that Pluto is in. This is generational of course. And each generation has it's own polarity point that symbolizes the ongoing evolutionary intentions for the planet as symbolized in the generations of Souls that share the same sign, and it's polarity point. Yet, at the same time, the whole of a generation is comprised of individuals who all have their own evolutionary journey, and intentions, within the generation that they are born within. Relative to the dual desire nature of the Soul it is the generational context that then serves to ignite the desire to 'separate' from that generation that allows for the Soul's discovery of it's own unique and individual nature, it's own individual evolutionary journey.

For example, a Soul can have Pluto in Libra in the 5th House. Obviously millions of others also have Pluto in Libra. The individuals Soul's natural polarity point of course is the 11th House, and Aries. So this would mean that all the other Souls who have Pluto in Libra would land, via synastry, in the individuals 5th House. Because of the dual desire nature within the Soul this then ignites or causes the individual with that 5th House Pluto in Libra to 'separate' from that generational context in order to actualize it's own sense of individual identity. Thus, by igniting that desire to separate in this generational context it has the affect of stimulating the natural polarity point, the 11th House and Aries, for this Soul who has it's natal Pluto in Libra in the 5th House.

The Soul is born into this generational context that is shared by millions of other Souls. Obviously, the vast majority of all those Souls within the same generation have not known one another personally. On the other hand, we do of course make personal connections to others within our generational context. Astrological methods exist of course that inform us of how to determine these personal connections within that generational context.

In the very same way this is how we need to understand the planetary nodes. Millions can have the S.Node of Mars in Scorpio for example. This correlates, as does any of the signs that the planetary nodes can be in, to time frames in the past, the archetypal meanings of, that all those Souls who have the same signs, i.e. S.Node of Mars in Scorpio share. And because of this there is a natural commonality  between such Souls in general: the structure of their consciousness and why. As Wolf used to teach it takes more than one Soul to accomplish the evolutionary intentions of the planets, the species. Yet, within this common sharing all Souls do make their own personal connections to others.

To know whom we have made those prior life personal connections too, relative to the planetary nodes, like with Pluto in the signs, we must employ the astrological methods of synastry to know who they are. So it is then a combination of the generational context, and our individual relationships within that, that both have the affect and intent of igniting each individual Soul's ongoing evolutionary intentions.



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"Would a planetary node squaring the Lunar nodal axis correlate with skipped steps too?"

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This would only be true if that actual planet of those planetary nodes is also square the Lunar Nodal Axis. In that case that planet would have to be conjunct either it's own S.Node, or it's N.Node.

God Bless, Rad



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« Reply #4 on: Dec 16, 2010, 07:00 AM »

Thank you Rad for posting these answers.

If it´s ok by you I´d like to understand a little better how the planetary nodes can be correctly interpreted in synastry. For example if someone has their Sun or Moon conjunct the others S.node of Venus. Could this indicate a prior life contact or, would the Lunar nodes or their rulers need to be involved?

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« Reply #5 on: Dec 16, 2010, 09:38 AM »

Hi Skywalker,

The Sun in synastry will never correlate to prior life connections to anyone because the Sun, in EA, is about how the entire EA paradigm in the birth chart is integrated, actualized, and given a sense of purpose. In other words the Sun is specific to the current life. When it is conjunct another's S.Node of Venus this would then mean that the Sun person would be triggering all the S.Node of Venus dynamics in the other persons chart. So from an EA point of view the question then would become: why ? At the same time the person who has that S.Node of Venus, and all the past dynamics therein, would have there own impact on the person's whose Sun is conjuncting that S.Node of Venus. Again, why ?

Conversely, the Moon conjunct another's S.Node of Venus can certainly correlate to the possibility of prior life connections in which there has been some relative high degree of proximity to one another. Yet we must be careful in working with the planetary nodes in this way. And that means we need to make sure that there are other symbols in the entire synastry contact charts that also indicate prior life connections to another.

God Bless, Rad
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« Reply #6 on: Dec 17, 2010, 06:52 AM »

Got it! Thanks again Rad
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