Thanks for sharing this, that is a very intriguing possibility and I will look forward to Rad’s input about it. It makes a lot of sense to me and it certainly seems congruent with the archetypal dynamics we’ve discussed with MJ’s chart.
I wanted to contextualize my comment on shame and the cardinal signs that you mentioned since that could be hard to understand if someone hasn't heard that show. To be specific I was referring to Capricorn/Saturn/10th house – which is focused on social identity such that planets involved with this archetype have experienced an internalization of societal and cultural conditioning which results in the experience of shame whenever the individual thinks, feels, or behaves outside of the proscriptions of that conditioning. In terms of the cardinal cross, what I was getting at is that because of the squares and oppositions of the other cardinal signs to Capricorn, often there is an immediate shame experience, or backlash, when people attempt to act upon their instinctual (Aries), emotional (Cancer), and relational (Libra) drives. This can come from the outside of course, in terms of being “shamed” by others, but it can also be an internal dynamic. Even people without planets in Capricorn are subject to this dynamic, in part because of course we all have Saturn and Capricorn somewhere, but also because everyone on the planet today has the South Nodes of both Pluto and Saturn (and Jupiter in many cases) right around the middle or later end of Capricorn, so we are all carrying internally a lot of residual rules and protocols of patriarchy that tend to produce the shame response whenever we “disobey” them. So to me, any planets in mid-to-late cardinal signs, when they initiate and act which is what cardinal energies naturally do, will be subject to a potential internalized “backlash” of feeling bad or inappropriate somehow.
Back to MJ I think you are onto something relative to the shame game with his Vesta in Cancer, because it is a great example of this dynamic with its near-exact opposition to the South Nodes of Pluto and Saturn – showing that as patriarchal norms ascended, this aspect of this Soul was judged and punished (also Capricorn) for its natural sexual mentoring – and also showing, in evolutionary terms, that this caused a skipped step (Vesta square lunar nodes) for the Soul and that now it is needing to “throw off” (opposition to those SNs) the old conditioning. And also the inconjunct of his Vesta with his Saturn in Sagittarius conjunct the midheaven to me is a classic shame signature and to be more specific an archetype of humiliation, because it involves an interaction between 10th/Capricorn/Saturn and 5th/Leo/Sun archetypes. The 5th house Vesta has a natural drive to project itself into the world, to seek love and validation; but then, bam, that Saturn comes down on it, through the inconjunct, and basically says you are evil (Saturn in Sag/9th – morality cops), and exist only to be used (Saturn/Cap word). [Not to mention if we add in the other leg of the yod, the Chiron in Aquarius/12th sextile Saturn and inconjunct Vesta, showing how projections of sick deviance went hand-in-glove with the moral posturing to humiliate Jackson.] In this context it would be easy to see MJ's Soul as having been a bachcha bazi – type figure: a sexualized child (Vesta 5th) enslaved to a leader mover/shaker (Saturn conjunct MC), such a lifetime being an outpicturing and playing out of the shame the Soul took on relative to the Vesta function during patriarchal experiences.
p.s. -- Kristin that is an awesome pic and I am GLAD it is so large -- really makes an impact! xoxo