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« Reply #60 on: Mar 15, 2013, 08:39 AM »

Hi Rad and All
The signs in the cusp of the houses are also preexisting patterns?
How can we differentiate what is prior lives background and what is evolutionary intention in the house cusps?

Thanks so much
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Mirta


Hi Mirta,

The signs on the cusp reflect the current life structure within the consciousness of the Soul. Each sign is ruled by a planet, and all planets have their S.Nodes. And those S.Nodes also have planetary rulers with aspects to them in most cases. Thus the past which is brought forwards into the current life structural nature of the consciousness within the Soul.

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« Reply #61 on: Mar 15, 2013, 02:58 PM »

Hi Rad,

I have just noticed that the chart we are working on
does not have any main planets in retrograde motion.

Could you please tell me the meaning of this from an
EA point of view?

The Lunar Nodes are Rx, as well as Lucifer and Amazone.

All the planetary North Nodes in the southern hemisphere
(houses 7 to 12) are Retrograde.

Thank you,

Linda
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« Reply #62 on: Mar 16, 2013, 06:43 AM »

Hi Rad,

I have just noticed that the chart we are working on
does not have any main planets in retrograde motion.

Could you please tell me the meaning of this from an
EA point of view?

The Lunar Nodes are Rx, as well as Lucifer and Amazone.

All the planetary North Nodes in the southern hemisphere
(houses 7 to 12) are Retrograde.

Thank you,

Linda

Hi Linda,

From an EA point of view this means that all the archetypes that correlate with whatever planets that are not retrograde are experiencing a necessary 'consolidating' relative to the evolutionary intentions that have preceded the current life. The retrograde archetype is cyclically or continually redefining itself so there does come times in which the Soul needs to consolidate into a stable whole the archetypes that are not retrograde in order for a sense of Soul stability to be experienced/ realized.

God Bless, Rad
 
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« Reply #63 on: Mar 16, 2013, 07:45 AM »

Hi Rad, just wanted to check in - I'll be getting on a plane today and intend to work on this this weekend/early week.
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« Reply #64 on: Mar 17, 2013, 03:19 AM »

Why the current life Sun?


Everything dies, and things die for no reason and to no apparent end.
And their death is painful. And, that process of living and dying
produces something amazing and beautiful and astonishing.

– Charles Darwin


The core underlying desire of the Soul is the development of the mind and intellect in order to understand the “whole truth” of the phenomenal world.  This desire was facilitated by the creation of past life egocentric personalities that could actualize the Soul’s intention by means of creating a special purpose to act as messenger to the consensus world.  The Soul desired to expand its intellectual framework, to come out of self-enforced limitations and isolation that had provided psychological and emotional security, and create and develop a special purpose in its own unique manner that would benefit the collective of Souls.  

The Soul needed to throw off any existing limitation relative to understanding the whole truth.  This created deep restlessness and an accelerated evolutionary dynamic in the Soul which was expressed in the current life Sun Aquarius 2nd, by means of the Soul integrating the current life intentions.  The placement and sign of every planet in the chart is chosen by the Soul for its ongoing evolutionary intentions.  The Sun is ruled by Uranus (conj NN) ruled by Pluto (the Soul itself).  Uranus is stationing, meaning that the force of evolution is accelerated and magnified.  Uranus is positioned in its natural house.  None of the planets in the chart are in retrograde motion.  This means the Soul is ready to consolidate the evolutionary intentions that have preceded the current life.  The Sun in the 2nd house reaffirms the need of the Soul to consolidate all aspects of itself which will allow the actualization of its special destiny to be integrated in a grounded, centred and steady way.              

The Sun Aquarius 2nd gives purpose and meaning and is the means by which the evolutionary intentions are integrated into the life.  The natural sign of the 11th house (Aquarius) containing Uranus and the North Node, was chosen by the Soul to be the Sun in the next life.  Everything revolves around the Sun, therefore the entire evolutionary paradigm revolves around the Sun.  Here ambitions, goals and aspirations are allowed to grow, thrive and shine through personal will and power.  The Sun sign expression naturally wants approval and special recognition.  However, there is a paradox operating in the Sun in Aquarius correlating to extremities and conflicts in the Leo-Aquarius archetypes.  While Leo (Sun) needs attention for itself, Aquarius is more concerned with what it can offer the overall social system.  The Soul will swing from one extreme to the other creating a need or drive to integrate and reconcile the opposites within itself.

The choice of this Sun restates the natural opposition between the SN Taurus 5th and the NN Scorpio 11th dynamic, the past evolving into the future, and gives a clue to the Soul’s special purpose having progressed considerably in the current life but not without resistance, frustration and conflict.  There had been a constant need for emotional validation and recognition from others (5th ruled by Mars 10th), especially from the established order.  The Sun forming a t-square to the Lunar Nodes by sign indicates developmental stress carried over from past lives whereby the Soul’s current life purpose and need to fully actualize it was thwarted because of the struggle to evolve from the past to the future.  The solution to this development stress came through objectively identifying the blocks and attempting to resolve them through the creative principle of the Sun, pushing through with personal will and power.  The Sun’s position, a very wide 13 deg away from forming skipped steps with the Nodes, was a distant forewarning that evolution would only proceed if the creative principle was given personal significance, meaning and value.  The Sun in the sign of Aquarius represents accelerated evolution, therefore the Soul would be able to grow in leaps and bounds and individuate from external and internal conditioning patterns.  

The trauma signature of Uranus conj NN correlates to past life dynamics being re-lived as well as the element of karmic fruition of bringing special qualities into the current life.  This archetype had been embraced by the Soul just previous to the current life, and continued to evolve through a de-conditioning process.  The information that the Soul had been collecting and the ideas that it had been formulating in the previous life were starting to take on a revolutionary quality, breaking through consensus conditioning patterns.  However, this only caused fear, shock and trauma.  The old beliefs, cultural truths, values, theories and hypotheses that the Soul had embraced for many lifetimes no longer provided a sense of personal meaning or security.  

With Uranus (ruler of the Sun) conj NN the Soul did not know what to believe or what to think because he was moving into an unknown that could not be defined.  He was struggling to break free beyond the consensus and beyond his own limitations yet he could not consciously define what he was trying to move into.  Therefore, he simply chose to go with what ‘worked,’ that is, he retreated back to the security patterns of Pluto, SN, NN, PPP.  The repeating of all of these dynamics lead to resistance, fear, mental-spiritual trauma, and dissociative states because the Soul could no longer control its reality as defined by the past.  It had reached a brick wall that only the sudden accelerated force of evolutionary change could remedy.  Therefore, it had been necessary for these bottom line orientations to be redefined and transformed (Uranus) through inner and outer confrontations with others thus revealing the limitations.  These confrontations caused reflection to take place within the Soul so that it could continue in its ongoing discoveries of the whole truth in relation to the whole of creation.  

The choice of the current life Sun Aquarius 2nd would focus around the proposed changes to his cherished value system.  Since he had become stuck in survival mode for many lifetimes with the effect of limiting his consciousness to new values, experiences, visions, knowledge and relationships, the current life Sun would enable him to compare his value system with others.  He would naturally gravitate toward experiences of withdrawal to discover these from within.  In the 3rd stage Individuated he identified himself as the resource for self-sustainment.  Through the revelation of his limitations, he would learn how to open up to others and how to apply his unique capabilities, his true unique self, to society by applying himself in ways that are compatible with others’ value systems.  Therefore, he learned how to share his knowledge with others.  What created value and meaning for himself was shared with others.  He would be able to examine his internal dynamics, motivational patterns and reasons for why he desired certain resources and his values around them.  In this way, he created a new way of relating to himself and a redefined value system that allowed for growth.  He was able to build stronger “inner” resources, self-sufficiency, autonomy, self-reliance, inner strength, and stability so that the special purpose could be revealed and expressed at the appointed time.

The Aquarian Sun in the 2nd house meant that financial structures would suffer instability by way of sudden losses and gains, but also ‘lucky,’ surprise blessings from the bounty of the Universe or from key people with karmic debts to repay (Moon ruled by Saturn Sag 12th).  Financial stability had been crucial, not only for family survival, but to fund the special projects, ongoing study and research, purchase of books and equipment, as well as financing a considerable amount of world travel.  The financial structures made it possible for the Soul’s evolutionary intentions to be fulfilled.

The Soul choice of a 2nd house Aquarian Sun is to do with where the Soul left off in the most recent past life, as well as the necessity to re-live the specific traumatic experiences of particular past lives that had left a residue of wounding in the Soul.  The Soul would face all of these issues again while being grounded at the same time.  This would mean having to re-live the traumatic experience of losing a child or several children in order to heal the Soul.  Because of the trauma associated with the loss of children, he built walls around his emotions, cutting himself off from his feelings and keeping them buried.  Dealing with people and situations in a highly intellectual manner created periodic sudden eruptions of emotion.  Since the 2nd house is naturally ruled by Taurus (sign of the South Node), there is a repeating theme of trauma associated with children – and since the South Node resides in the 5th house, this means the 1st child born, that is, trauma associated with the death of the eldest child.  

Opening himself up to new experiences, constantly fired up and accelerated by Uranus (ruler of the Sun) conj NN, and the developmental stress of the t-square by sign to the Lunar Nodes, on a moment-to-moment basis (Moon 2nd house) would become the basis of re-traumatisation.  With Uranus in the 11th house, he would come face to face with the shocking reality that he had not been living his life authentically, according to his true nature.  Since inner security is constituted primarily through what is recognizable and familiar, he would suffer enormous mental stress under internal and external pressures.  It became necessary for him to step back, objectify and take a dispassionate view of all his traumatic experiences.  This would lead to self-knowledge, liberation from the old, and allow him to radically change himself according to his new values.

Uranus (ruler of Sun) conj NN Scorpio would enable new choices to be made in the face of the past (Pluto paradigm), thus evolving the past by way of the individuation process.  The individuation process in the current life necessarily took many ups, downs, twists and turns.  The Soul had to bring the deep unconscious (Uranus) toward conscious awareness (Sun), and to shed light upon the authentic self.  The individuation process included:

–  receiving sudden flashes of insight that lead to stunning revelations;  
–  healing the Soul through accessing past life memories held within the long-term memory containing traces of unresolved serious trauma that manifested as problematic mental, emotional and physical circumstances;  
–  re-living key traumatic imprints all over again followed by experiencing the world as safe and secure again;
–  liberating from the control mechanisms employed by church and state;  
–  growing into his full unique potential, his authentic self;  
–  working as a group of one to consolidate and strengthen the special purpose;  
–  penetrating deeply to understand, synthesize and consolidate the new information;
–  creating a startling new philosophical idea the effect of which would have a cataclysmic impact and “timeless” effect upon how the world understands life itself.  

Mars trine Sun – liberation from the past life memories of societal conditioning patterns would be effected quite easily. He would be able to objectify the nature of any consensus pattern in his life, any value system, cultural belief, religious idea, or commonplace philosophy, by understanding and seeing it for what it actually is independent of any subjective interpretation.  This also meant that his work, his social purpose, would be rooted in correlation and observation.  This aspect allowed the scientific research into the natural world and the new systems of thought to be integrated quite rapidly into the consensus world.  

Mars ruling the 5th house (containing the South Node) and Venus ruling the 11th house (containing the North Node) – the Soul had put considerable energy into its evolutionary intentions and purposes in recent past lives.  Venus in mutual reception with Mars – his relationship dynamics and social position would also evolve, his wife, colleagues and societal friends proving to be key supports.  Venus semisqu Sun – some resistance and insecurity based on the fear of moving into unknown territory, and the adoption of new information that would have a traumatizing or liberating effect. The Soul’s past desires had been actualized through Venus Aries 3rd (ruler of South Node) where the Soul had created a personal sense of self-value through the information it had gathered for the consensus world (Venus ruled by Mars Libra 10th).  The past conditioning pattern or the past ‘reality’ (Mars Libra 10th) describes the collection of information based upon time-honoured consensus ideas.  This is also reflected by the mutual reception between Mars and Venus (conj IC), a deep desire to establish security for self and family.  

Moon semisex Sun (bals) – clarity in the form of complete conceptions and ideas, desire to create a “timeless vision,” a new philosophical idea in the context of his culture/time, considered strange and different by others who do not understand or comprehend what he is attempting to do.  The ability to allow new patterns, thoughts, ideas and impulses to enter the consciousness of their own accord thus illuminating the path to the future.  

Chiron squ Nodes – the Chirotic wounding created a dissociative state, parts of the psyche splitting away from the whole.  Ruler of Chiron, Uranus Scorpio (conj NN), ruled by Pluto Pisces, could indicate a kind of hysteria or severe panic/anxiety stored in the Soul.  The original Chirotic intense wounding experiences threatened the Souls’ relationship to itself, its own needs and values, and therefore impacted upon a sense of meaning of life (ruler Uranus ruled by Pluto Pisces).  The Soul chose a current life Sun in the same sign and house as Chiron in order to re-live the wounding experience but also to develop new ways of “survival” by meeting his own needs that had come to a stop due to the traumatic experiences.  


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« Reply #65 on: Mar 17, 2013, 08:20 AM »

Hi Linda,

While I was reading through your brilliant EA work relative to the Soul's choice of the Sun sign in the current life I suddenly remember, don't know how long ago now, when you first came to our message board. Remembered how dedicated you made yourself to this sacred EA work in such a way that your natural evolutionary progression in terms of understanding it became ever more evident. Remembering where you started and now, yet again, reading your EA analysis is just so inspiring to me because of your own evolutionary development in understanding this work.

Your EA analysis here is simply brilliant.

One thing I would like to mention for your own contemplation is where your rightly pointed out the impact of traumas for him relative to children: loosing them. Relative to his on ongoing evolution, the 'whole truth', reflect on the fact that his Venus in Aries which is the ruler of his S.Node is trine his 12th House Saturn/ Neptune conjunction in Sagittarius. And is inconjunct his natal Uranus in Scorpio in the 11th which is ruled by his Pluto in Pisces in the 3rd. Both the N.Nodes of Venus and Mars are also conjunct his Venus. And now reflect on how his first child, after her death, came to him from the astral realm in various ways of communicating with him. This intention was many but one of the core intentions was to help his Soul understand the 'whole truth' of Creation itself.

God Bless, Rad
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« Reply #66 on: Mar 17, 2013, 12:40 PM »

I am brand-new to this board and have already been out of step -- but am very much encouraged by the fact that at one point even the author of the brilliant piece above, was new too.  I'm wanting to comment specifically on the meaningful insights of her thought process and the remarkable synchronicity that attended their arrival at my station this morning.
I've wanted to participate in your discussions since as it happens, I am a veritable Walking Demonstration of Jeffrey Wolf Green's teachings, born with SNode conjunct Pluto, NNode in Aquarius and a 9th house Jupiter "skipped step."  Uranus is on the cusp of the 11th conjunct Mercury, Virgo ascending, I am not gay (but maybe just haven't found the right person yet), a lifelong astrologer and spiritual seeker, 60YO native and lifelong resident of Colorado. 
Alas, since the Nodes run from the S in the 12th, my past seems closed off to me (perhaps mercifully). I feel these energies but can't access them very well -- so they "act out" in my life instead; from that perspective they're naturally easy to analyze, but challenging to heal and resolve. 
Recently I contacted one of your former (I'm sure also ongoing) and most expert students for consultation and benefited enormously from that contact, am sure we will be working together more in the future especially since a seminar here is planned later this year.  That person was much impressed with this charted illustration of EA principles! and used his expertise learned here, by "cracking open" some of the "lost" 12th house information, much appreciated as you can imagine.
Midpoint of the transiting Uranus/Pluto transit is falling on that NNode of mine, and you'll never guess the ascendant degree of this year's solar return (yup) so I'm to approach these issues and somehow find a way to Return The Gift no matter how scared I am ... so I'm haunting your place in search of the mettle to do so and have found Courage everywhere I looked.  Every paragraph of the piece Linda posted was significant, and reading it was like following a path of stars across the desert.   
It's a little unclear whether you welcome the submission of charts and I don't want to seem intrusive by posting the data.  At the same time, I think my consultant would agree these should become part of any roster of EA research materials since they so aptly illustrate the principles of Jeffrey Wolf Green's teachings, so please let me know.  Meanwhile, please know how your wise voices have reached my welcoming ears, and touched me to the Plutonian core!
In thanks -- Kathy
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« Reply #67 on: Mar 18, 2013, 06:46 AM »

Kathy,

As I said before we do not do personal charts on this message board: it is one of the rules that you should have read when you signed up. We do on occasion do that but only in very specific cases with with established members who have actively contributed to this message board: not just take from it.

One suggestion is this: learn EA yourself so that you can unravel yourself from within yourself instead of relying on others to do that for you.

God Bless, Rad

Here is  segment of the rules all those who sign up read:

3) Policy on personal chart interpretation and analysis:
The message board is here to teach the principles of EA through example.   What is posted here is meant to be of general interest to all of our readers.   Individual analysis of your chart from a personal point of view is of interest mainly to you and not to most other readers.  Thus posting personal charts and asking for analysis or feedback on your chart is not appropriate here.  Asking questions about or posting your chart as an example of EA principles that will be of interest to many readers is acceptable.
   At times there can be a fine line between what is of personal interest and what is of general interest.  Our moderators reserve the right to remove or to request that you remove any material posted they feel is personal chart interpretation.
  We have a number of qualified Evolutionary Astrologers associated with our school and this message board.  A more appropriate place for personal chart interpretation questions is a private reading with one of them.
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« Reply #68 on: Mar 19, 2013, 06:01 AM »

Hi Gonzalo, Upasika, Mirta, Ari ...

Please let me know if you still plan on posting for the next step concerning the Sun in the chart we are working on.

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« Reply #69 on: Mar 19, 2013, 06:55 AM »

Hi Rad, yes I'm working on this today.
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« Reply #70 on: Mar 19, 2013, 07:10 AM »

Hi Rad... yes, I plan to post, and am working on it.
God Bless, Gonzalo
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« Reply #71 on: Mar 19, 2013, 09:44 AM »

Hi Rad,
I am in the phase of language revision; it takes time to me and I cannot do it today. I hope that tomorrow wednesday it wil be finished.
Thank you, God Bless
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« Reply #72 on: Mar 19, 2013, 02:27 PM »

Hi Rad,

Yes I'm going to be posting, have been working on it but also been very busy - hoping to be able to post within the next couple of days.

thanks Upasika
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« Reply #73 on: Mar 20, 2013, 12:22 PM »

Hi Rad and Group

A partial approach to SUN’s choice:
Sun is in 2nd house in Aquarius, ruler of 9th house that hosts PPP; ruled by Uranus in 11th house Scorpio conjunct NN, ruled by Pluto in 3rd house in Pisces. Sun is the natural ruler of 5th house that hosts the SN in Taurus, ruled by Venus in Aries, and natural ruler of Sun’s house.
Repeating themes:  2nd, 5th and 11th houses.
2nd house: SN in Taurus in a solar house ruled by Venus, natural ruler of Sun. (2nd – 5th); Moon in 2nd house, Chiron in 2nd house square the nodes; SN Pluto and Venus in 2nd house conjunct Moon; SN Neptune (Pluto’s ruler) in 2nd.
11th house ruled by Venus, hosting NN conjunct Uranus and NN Chiron; Sun in Aquarius; Chiron in Aquarius square the nodes.
These repeating themes in the fixed cross interweave with repeating themes in the mutable cross.

Vibratory modality: With Pluto in 3rd house in Pisces together with Mercury, Jupiter, Venus Pallas, Ceres, Juno and Sophia, ruled by Neptune conjunct Saturn in Sag in 12th house, this Soul came to this life with a background predominantly mutable, and the evolutionary intention is also in a mutable house and sign.
However, or because of the large and deep dimension of its evolutionary purpose in 3rd individuated state, the Soul has been developing conscious structures provided with a fixed energy by sign and house, yet has been flip-flopping between fixed signs and houses
In addition, in this lifetime Pluto, it’s PP and their rulers even in mutable signs are hosted by houses whose cusps are in fixed signs, while the nodes in fixed signs are hosted by houses with cardinal signs in their cusps.
The intention of deepening the knowledge about reality and Life needed the determination and capacity to concentrating energy that belongs to fixed, centripetal, energy in order to sustain the convictions and steadily persist in the goal of establishing them in society; therefore a Taurus SN in 5th house.
This could be done through a new and active self actualization (5th house in Aries) and a careful consideration of society’s expectations and especially what it needs in order to evolve (10th and 11th house in Libra).

However, the fixed Taurean energy while less evolved manifested mostly as a need of security that was a hindrance to creatively actualizing the purpose.
Fixed signs resist changes in the physical plane, but are able to achieve deep transformations, metamorphosis, because of the concentration of its centripetal energy and its firm and stable will. Thus, in order to resolve the flip-flopping and actualize the intention the Soul still choose a fixed energy, but able to firmly sustain and provide the conditions to achieve the Promethean evolutionary intention: therefore an Aquarian, Promethean, survivor, 2nd house Sun septile asteroid Prometheus in 1st house.
The Soul choose a Sun able to actualize the evolution of its fixed energy from individual security to a steady promotion of a change, a revolution, in the social and cultural conscience and belief system; leaving behind its “frog in the well” fixed modality by means of a Scorpion openness and ability to overcome limitations, evolution was actualized by an Aquarian, objective and detached, fixity able to supporting the subtlety and mind-openness of its mutable background and intention.

“Yet the underlying and primary desire within this Soul is constant and continuous understandings and discoveries that will ultimately lead to a knowing of the 'whole truth' relative to the 'nature of all things', of life itself.” (Rad)
The “whole truth” is symbolized in the mutable cross, the Soul intends to be subtle, flexible and pliant . . . to God, to Natural Law, not to society; society’s beliefs and pressure must be resisted and changed.
In former lives the Soul accepted challenges but they led to persecutions and was also stopped by needs of personal security.
Therefore, in order to actualize the evolutionary intention and resolve the hindrances created by this need of individual security, the Soul choose a fixed Sun in a fixed 2nd house, provided with enough self-reliance and confidence in Its inner resources and values; enough stubborn and patient as to persist in its goal and lead cultural beliefs out to religious consensus, yet cautious as to secure self preservation and acceptation of these revolutionary values.
The creative actualization of the Soul’s purpose intended to develop a firm, courageous and rebellious spirit, necessary to revolutionize social values regarding Humanity, human species.
With this Sun the Soul intended to integrate the open-mindedness and ability to search and find the new, using skillful means with the firmness and solidity of fixed energy. These features coexist in its Aquarius Sun ruled by Uranus in Scorpio, whose SN is in 1st house Sag conjunct SN Mars and sextile Sun.

The Soul brings an Aquarian wound and skipped steps; with Chiron involved where is the wound is also the healing.
Chiron suggests a wound in the individuated unconscious of having been permeable to the influence of collective thinking and values, based on a difficulty to define the limits within the “other’s” mind because of a lack in confidence in the soul’s or individuals values,  rooted in family  and/or deeply ingrained in the self-image as a result of consensual persecutions.(Chiron ruled by Uranus in Scorpio in 11th house ruled by Pluto in Pisces in 3rd house; SN Chiron in 4th house in Aries, ruled by Mars in Libra in 10th house, square SN Saturn and Pluto in Cap in 2nd house conjunct SN Venus, ruler of SN)
Indeed the Soul has been flip-flopping between this permeability and a Taurean narcissistic defense; independence and liberation has also been tried but needs to be affirmed in this life.
Thus, with Chiron NN in 11th house Scorpio conjunct Resolution NN and Uranus, liberation from collective thinking is the way to achieve the evolutionary intention, and at the same time the possibility of changing the collective mind if the individual is able to sustain his individual values and beliefs and give them objective and concrete form. Therefore, a healing Sun in 2nd house Aquarius, ruler of 9th house that hosts PPP (the evolutionary intention depends on Sun)

Sun in Aquarius reflects that this life’s purpose is liberation from old security patterns and its progressive conditionings through prior lifetimes, through finding the inner strength to affirm the Soul’s values even risking to be a group of one.
The integration of the purpose for this life will revolve around  the ability to objectify Reality as to develop a belief system aligned with Natural Law; to objectify cultural and collective values detached from emotions and knowing its deep foundations, and to objectify social reality aware of what are society’s evolutionary needs , free of consensus conditionings.(Sun ruler of 9th house; ruled by Uranus in 11th house in Scorpio; SN Mars in Sag conjunct SN Uranus;  disseminating trine Mars in Libra in 10th house).
The disseminating trine of Mars to Sun reflects the Soul’s refinement of the social consciousness as well as the intention and ability of establishing the innovative purpose in society based in a prior crisis in consciousness. (Mars disseminating square Moon and SN Pluto, Saturn and Venus, Mars ruler)

Soul’s values in this life are to be centered in a timeless vision; the Sun in Aquarius develops this vision and expresses these values detaching the individual from his time’s values with a clear, objective awareness of what needs to be changed for consensus evolution to proceed. (2nd house ruler Saturn in 12th house in Sag balsamic to Neptune; SN Saturn balsamic semisextile Sun; Sun DP trine Mars in 10th house).

Collective Narcissistic Wound: The evolutionary intention of knowing and communicating the whole truth requires the ability to objectify Reality and that means detachment from narcissism at individual as well as at collective level.
Freud said that his discovering of Unconscious was the 3rd Humanity’s “narcissistic wound”. The 1st was inflicted by Copernicus: the Earth isn’t the centre of the Universe, and the 2nd was Darwin’s discovering that man wasn’t created as the center of Creation.
Furthermore, as well as individual survival is related to collective survival, individual knowledge of truth is related to collective knowledge.Thus, creative actualization of this soul’s special purpose was linked with healing man’s fractured cosmic consciousness and help to restore the human integrated relation with nature, with the whole Creation: a 2nd house Aquarius Sun to heal a collective 2nd (5th-11th) house Aquarian wound.   

An agent of transformation, harbinger of a new (natural) science; feminine thought
“When asteroids themes are prominent in an individual’s chart, they denote a personality in which the power of the transformative principle can be operative. Often these persons become vehicles in the general society through which old, crystallized structures, attitudes and values are destroyed, then renewed and regenerated. Consequently, their lives are marked by crisis of individuality challenging the established path of mass consciousness.” (Demetra George)
It’s interesting to notice that the asteroids themes related to the specific purpose of this life involve “feminine” thought, which is inclusive and focused on processes more than on results.
Also that all the feminine thinking asteroids, as well as Mercury and Jupiter and Jupiter’s NN, which is FQP trine Sun, are ultimately ruled by Jupiter and Neptune in mutual reception.

Sun conjunct Pallas in Aquarius and Sophia in Pisces, both in 3rd house; inconjunct Urania and NN Sophia in Virgo(conjunct PPP) in 9th house; trine Scientia in 7th house; biseptile Pandora conjunct NN Uranus
Asteroid Pallas conjunct Sun suggests the image of Pallas Athena, the hero’s close companion and advisor , who values and inspires in him audacity, victorious will and bravery, but only if he manifests dignity, serenity and prudence (Pallas disseminating trine Mars in Libra).
Pallas thought is one of proximity, in 3rd house and conjunct 9th house ruler she also expresses the voyager naturalist that sought direct knowledge and proof in the empirical world. The capacities for inspired vision, intuition, curiosity, genius and exceptional perception provide mental-creativity to the individual’s identity and purpose. She facilitates the creation of ideas and theories that benefit and lead future generations.
Sophia, symbol of God’s feminine wisdom, represents the intent of finding the whole truth of Life and God/dess Law as inherent to the purpose.( Sun conjunct Sophia and its SN in Pisces, which is square its ruler Neptune balsamic Saturn in Sag in 12th , conjunct Mercury and its SN, trine NN Jupiter and NN Chiron)
Urania, the principle of cosmic knowledge, represents a deep thinker who draws upon her inspiration to uncover mental treasures. She symbolizes the soul’s inspirational understanding and mental astuteness to uncover natural laws and actualizing the evolutionary purpose, and reflects the purpose of clarifying through analysis the individual awareness of social limitations, and especially of clarifying the evolutionary intent in a microcosmic as well as macrocosmic sense. It is also a hint of the deep understanding of the need of social humility. (Sun FP inconjunct Urania and NN Sophia; Urania in 9th house Virgo conjunct PPP and NN Sophia, ruled by Mercury in Pisces trine Saturn balsamic Neptune in Sag in 12th; trine SN Mars and Uranus in Sag and NN Mars)
In addition, asteroid Pandora who “serves as an intermediary in the octave progression between Mercury and Uranus “(Demetra George), is biseptile Sun and conjunct the NN of its ruler Uranus, emphasizing the special individualized destiny of this soul related to knowledge and collective evolution.

Thanks Rad for your wise guidance and patient dedication
God Bless
Mirta


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« Reply #74 on: Mar 21, 2013, 12:47 AM »

Hi Rad, and group

I'm now posting some thoughts about the Sun archetype in this birthchart.

Thank you Rad for holding this space for our continued learning, and thanks group for participating here.

God Bless,

Gonzalo


The Sun being in the 2nd House reflects the Soul’s purpose to create a life that is simple or basic, and relatively withdrawn from social interaction, in order to cultivate relationship with self, and to listen to self.  With Aries on the 5th House cusp ruled by Mars in the 10th House (also, the 2nd House cusp is Capricorn), and Leo in the 9th House cusp, there is an intention to withdraw in order to become deeply reflective so that a discovery of truths in general, and truths concerning the natural world, can occur from within. The Soul needs to keep itself perpetually engaged in introspection for insights and perception of meaningful patterns can occur. Because the 2nd House Sun is Aquarius, there is a need to detach from prior associations of meaning, and truths to which the Soul adhered in the past because of the need for self-consistency which created limitations in the understanding of the natural world, and truth in general. The Sun being in the 2nd House Aquarius, semisextile Jupiter in the 3rd House, and semisquare Venus also in the 3rd House, there is a need to create intense introspection and reflection on the organization and associations of meaning of the past knowledge forms the individual has collected or realized, thus implying a need to restrict the intake of new forms of knowledge. Because the attachment and fixity of prior understanding, and limitations created thereof, have been quite intense (SN 5nd House Taurus), the individual needs to become more or less ‘crazy’ in order to give up the prior felt consistency (also the Sun/Saturn square occurring within the Last Quarter phase, ie. not fearing to make the fool under social parameters). The desires for withdrawal are also fueled by other reasons, mainly feelings of guilt, feelings of guilt, and traumatic confrontations with larger forces of social nature (Mars in the 10th House is Full phase inconjunct Jupiter in the 3rd House Pisces, ruled by Neptune/Saturn in the 12th House, Uranus Scorpio is conjunct the NN in the 11th House).

The individual is necessarily deconstructing prior beliefs and associations of meaning, inwardly fragmenting sets of beliefs and knowledge which have conditioned its subjectivity, which in the past the Soul felt to be so well formed and veritable. Thus, the individual has the intention or life purpose to fragment and reduce to dust that which was the very basis of its prior emotional security: intellectual certainty linked with systems of knowledge proving his own competency. Through a relative isolation and throwing-off of prior intellectual basis for security, the Soul has the purpose to become a friend to itself, ie. to be by self despite the own inadequacies and regardless of knowing or not knowing and same time, to be objective and honest about self without needing to create intellectual or philosophical compensations: to embrace the naked truth about self. This radical objectivity and honesty, combined with abiding by self and listening to self, allows for a progressive depth in relationship to self, and a progressive depth of understanding about what the needs have been to arrange its reality and understanding in the ways it has: the basis of the own subjectivity, values and needs, and the limitations these have created to an objective view. The Soul has needed to create a sense of purpose allowing to learn that its own nature is self-sustaining, and self-recreating, through the operation of autonomic inner forces which are not dependent on personal will or purposefulness. The Soul has a purpose to listen to self in order to reconnect with feelings and sensation. Through listening inwardly, the individual would be able to hear his own heart, then the sound of the electricity in the etheric body, and then the sound of the chakras in the astral body, which could progressively prove to him the deeper reality of Soul. The individual would desire to keep his children from whom separations have occurred close to his heart, and this desire could lead him to connect with them through the astral body (further, the Sun rules Lucifer’s SN in Leo in the 8th House, ie. the Souls of his children, and the Sun squares Saturn in the 12th House within the Last Quarter phase, and forms a Balsamic semisextile to the Moon in 2nd House, ie. parent/children relationship beyond time/space limitation). The purpose of inwardly listening to self would allow the individual to totally redefine himself, and his role, in connection with his Creator (Sun is Last Quarter quintile to the SN in the 5th House). 

Because of the prior over-investment in sets of knowledge and beliefs, the need to deconstruct and fragment the existing associations of meaning would be experienced as an involution. After having experienced feeling wise or learned, the individual would need to become a fool. The Sun in the 2nd House would demand to ‘make real’ any knowledge form, to make it consistent with the own life, and to create personal associations of meaning for whatever idea. This process would create an intense restlessness and inner stress because the individual would feel to be standing on shifting sands. With the Sun being in Aquarius, the individual would have a chance to observe this process in an objective and detached way, ie. to witness  the own process, instead of needing to control the process. The fragmentation of prior knowledge forms is necessary, because of the over-investment in these constructs and because the over-specialization of these bodies of knowledge. By reducing to dust these sets of ideas, the individual would be able to create bridges and migrations of essential ideas between areas of knowledge which were not connected in the past, while new 9th House patterns would become apparent serving to create new and original associations. For this to occur the individual would need the fragmentation to occur first, a state of inner anarchy not only of prior concepts, but also of the faculties of knowledge, ie. an essentially agalitarian use of sensation, thought, intuition, imagination, etc., versus a hierarchy in which thought is supposed to be the higher faculty (Aquarius Sun 2nd House, NN in the 11th House, conjunct Uranus and asteroid Chaos).

The individual would need to experience not knowing what he wants, and what he likes and dislikes, because the prior thought and language forms do not serve to describe what now is only being formed. He would have sudden insights about what is personally meaningful to him, but many times would need to remain silent because he would not be able to know if he still thinks what he used to think, or if he still likes what he used to like. He would need to become strange or even weird to himself, before progressively becoming familiar again, to the extent that he redefines and recreates himself from within. Fragmentation would be a condition for becoming (the Aquarius Sun being square Saturn 12th House Sagittarius within the Last Quarter phase, ie, liberation from prior constructions the individual valued as ultimate truths). He would desire to become imperceptible, to look like ‘anyone else’, or not be seen at all.

Sexually, he would need not to know what he likes, for a progressive disorganization and reorganization of his sexual desire nature. He would need to become a sexual ‘polymorphous perverse’, so to speak, thus to become sexually aroused by a multiplicity of microperceptions at a fragmentary or molecular level, in order to sexually feel through the whole body, and Soul, and not only through the phallus (the Sun is conjunct asteroids Aphrodite and Lust, both 2nd House Aquarius, and trine Pan in Gemini in the 7th House, forming a Grand Trine with Mars, Pan is conjunct the NN Vesta, Vesta being in Aries conjunct Venus in Aries, with Vesta in the 4th House, and Vesta/Venus are semisquare the 2nd House Sun; thus a need to detach and liberate from prior sexual organization of sensation for a new cycle of self discovery to occur; Lilith is in the 5thn House, in Taurus, square Chiron in the 2nd House Aquarius, and opposing Uranus in the 11th House Scorpio, ie. using sensation and pleasure for a disorganization of sexual subjectivity that in time will allow for a renewal and rebirth of the body of sensation, because sexual energy is being redistributed in order to perceive Soul/Spirit reality through sexuality: Scorpio NN, Mas novile to Neptune and New phase conjunct Magdalena, Eros Pisces New phase conjunct Pluto).

The 2nd House withdrawal and the Aquarius detachment from egocentric purposefulness, occurring through embracing sensation and feeling in order to root consciousness within the physical body, would allow for the 9th House Virgo Pluto polarity point intention to heal to manifest through surfacing and release of the stored energy of traumas. In connection with the pre-existing desires to heal, self and others, the Aquarius Sun square Saturn would imply the intention to heal at a vibrational level, and to understand the body at the level of energy, versus the body as an individual an independent system of organs, and from that level integrate other knowledge forms relating to healing. Thus, removing the patriarchal beliefs that conditioned and suppressed prior lives shamanistic orientation to healing.

He would need to feel the ideas, and to be able to feel nature. Thus, to be able to feel as an animal, to become that which he desires to understand, versus being a detached observer defined by abstract thought of a ‘human’ superior status. Thus, he would be able to observe and to feel the interconnections between beings, animals, plants, etc., occurring at many different levels. He would be able to observe, as I think he did, that species and individuals are one and the same thing, because there are only packs from the point of view of nature:  how the individual contains the species in its own becoming, and that species are only a momentary stage within a pure becoming in which all types of migrations occur between different species [Gilles Deleuze/Felix Guattari explain this quite well: “But what exactly does that mean, the animal as band or pack? Does a band not imply a filiation, bringing us back to the reproduction of given characteristics? How can we conceive of a peopling, a propagation, a becoming that is without filiation or hereditary production? A multiplicity without the unity of an ancestor? It is quite simple; everybody knows it, but it is discussed only in secret. We oppose epidemic to filiation, contagion to heredity, peopling by contagion to sexual reproduction, sexual production. Bands, human or animal, proliferate by contagion, epidemics, battlefields, and catastrophes. Like hybrids, which are in themselves sterile, born of a sexual union that will not reproduce itself, but which begins over again every time, gaining that much more ground. Unnatural participations or nuptials are the true Nature spanning the kingdoms of nature. Propagation by epidemic, by contagion, has nothing to do with filiation by heredity, even if the two themes intermingle and require each other. The vampire does not filiate, it infects. The difference is that contagion, epidemic, involves terms that are entirely heterogeneous: for example, a human being, an animal, and a bacterium, a virus, a molecule, a microorganism. Or in the case of the truffle, a tree, a fly, and a pig. These combinations are neither genetic nor structural; they are interkingdoms, unnatural participations. That is the only way Nature operates—against itself.” – Deleuz/Guattari: 1730: Becoming-Intense, Becoming-Animal, Becoming-Imperceptible, in A Thousand Plateaus – Capitalism and Schizophrenia.] Also, that all species and variations and folds of an original biological substratum: “I believe that animals are descended from at most only four or five progenitors, and plants from an equal or lesser number. Analogy would lead me one step farther, namely, to the belief that all animals and plants are descended from some one prototype. But analogy may be a deceitful guide. Nevertheless all living things have much in common . . . so that all organisms start from a common origin (Darwin, the Origin of Species, quoted by Elizabeth Grosz: The Nick of Time, Politics, Evolution and the Untimely)”. The Aquarius 2nd House also reflects the purpose to understand the molecular threshold between non-life and life. Grosz continues “Darwin is extremely careful in Origin to provide arguments only for those claims for which he has amassed scientific evidence, but he does speculate in private correspondence to Hooker about this ‘moment’ of emergence of life from nonlife: ‘But if (and oh what a big if) we could conceive in some warm little pond with all sorts of ammonia and phosphoric salts, light, heat, electricity and etc., present, that a protein compound was chemically formed, ready to undergo still more complex changes’.
Such realizations would then lead to an understanding of the collective intention to survive manifesting in all life forms within Nature as a whole, versus the idea of the survival of the fittest, and further, through the ongoing inner discovery of Soul reality, to understand life as a manifestation of a consciousness that in itself is non-dependent on life, and the natural sacredness of life he inwardly felt  (NN Scorpio, Pluto Pisces, Sun Aquarius 2nd House). Thus, by introducing chaos in his own constructions, Darwin could have acknowledged the interconnectedness of evolutionary directions of the species, and the role of underlying final cause creating evolutionary directions (orthogenesis). Instead, at that point he chose to preserve prior constructions (originating on prior rebellions to earlier constructions), and to introduce chaos in evolution, in which the fittest survive. Had he fully embraced the purpose to revolutionize self, this would have created a redefinition of ideas at a political level, and would ignite desires to contribute to social change and ecology, through ideas demonstrating the inherent interconnectedness and interdependency of all life forms for survival. On the contrary, it seems Darwin was a theoretical influence on Nietszche’s ideas of the dice roll and the supermen, and I suppose the idea of the survival of the fittest is politically dangerous in hands of people who may want to consider themselves that way (same Mars 10th House being Libra, trine Sun Aquarius 2nd House).
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