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Started by Rad, Feb 15, 2013, 11:49 AM

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Rad

Hi Gray,

First, thanks for taking the time, amongst the personal issues that you spoke of, to do this segment of the planetary method for the life of Darwin.

Your EA analysis of Darwin's Jupiter, and all of it's other connections in full, is exceptionally sound and of course correct. Your EA reasoning is as accurate as it is impeccable. One of the dynamics that you brought up that very important to understand in the evolutionary progression of Darwin's Soul relative to 'beliefs' versus the actual knowing of any phenomenal reality summarized by you in this statement:

"However, since these two south nodes are conjunct the asteroid Kassandra, it also points to a mythic storyline that has been repeating for him involving something along the lines of not being believed-  having important information related to survival or ultimate understanding to offer his community, but to have a fate like Kassandra in which he is not actually believed.  Thus, Charles Darwin with his Pisces Jupiter would be determined to prove the validity of his insights and theories by collecting extensive scientific evidence to support his theories."

Exactly so.

This is how EA is meant to be done.

Bravo !!

God Bless, Rad

Rad

Hi Ari, Gonzalo, Gray, and Upasika ....

Ok, we will now continue in our next step in the planetary method: Saturn.

Saturn correlates to forms as reflected in the natural law of gravity. Gravity is thus the determinant of form. Form then correlates to functions: the structural nature of form is determined by necessary functions relative to an organized whole. Consciousness, Neptune, that manifests from Pluto, the Soul, that manifests through the form of the humanoid is thus limited by the nature of that form as defined by the inherent functions of that form. From an evolutionary point of view, this then correlates to the limits of any form that requires the changing of form for the evolution of consciousness to proceed.

Saturn correlates to the structural nature of consciousness that the Soul determines from life to life because the specific structural nature of consciousness will then be orientated to "˜reality' is such a way that it then reflects the ongoing evolutionary needs and requirements of the Soul itself. Thus, by house, sign, and aspects to the natal Saturn, the sign on the 10th house cusp, any planets in the 10th with their own aspects to the planets, will all correlate to this structure.

The S.Node of Saturn, which all humans on the planet share during this epic, all correlate to the transition from natural times, the matriarchy, to the patriarchy: S.Node of Saturn being in Capricorn. Individually, the S.Node of Saturn by house, and the aspects to it from other planets, correlate to the prior live structural nature of the consciousness of the Soul that applies to the current life ongoing evolutionary needs and requirements of the Soul.

Saturn correlates the nature of the "˜conditions' that the Soul chooses to be born into that reflect the evolutionary needs of the Soul, and how this conditioning reflects those intentions. The nature of this conditioning reflects the totality of the society or culture, country, and regions with countries that impacts on the Soul in this way.

One of those conditionings is reflected in the fact that humans live together as structured groups: societies, tribes, countries and, as such, correlates to the social role that all humans have on behalf of that society: thus the role of that Soul choses in any given life that reflects its evolutionary needs and intentions. That role on behalf of society, and on behalf of the individual context of each Soul, correlates to the work or 'career' that the Soul uses relative to facilitating in ongoing evolutionary needs. 

This then correlates to the formation of goals or ambitions of the Soul relative to it's individual station within the context of the whole of the group, and the means necessary to actualize those goals and ambitions. Each country or society has it's own socially accepted norms and customs that the consensus of the society our country has established that then correlates to whatever means must be used, as prescribed by society, to actualize the individual goals and ambitions reflected in the choices that the Soul makes for itself: it's career, work, or role within the context of the country or society of birth.

In turn this then correlates to the interfacing between the role of authority, as defined by society, parents, and the authority of the soul itself, and how the Soul responds or reacts to these external authorities.

Because Saturn correlates to the nature of laws, customs, norms and taboos that any group of people create in order to live together as an organized whole that then become the basis of judgments made by the individual or the group:  or judgments made by the individual within itself. The issue then becomes one wherein are the judgments being made are a function of made beliefs with all the attending moralities, ethics, rights and wrongs, etc, or judgments that emanate from natural laws? Judgments are necessary and a part of natural consciousness in human form. It is one of the natural ways that correlate to self-knowledge, and knowledge upon the nature of anything.

Saturn correlates with the very nature of time itself. Time is nothing more than that motion itself where motion equals time. One of the functions of time, motion, is aging. This natural aging as defined by motion, time, naturally leads to crystallization wherein the nature of whatever forms exist no longer reflect the evolutionary imperatives of the whole, or the individual. This then leads to the necessity of change, of evolving new forms and structures. As a natural function of time leading to necessary evolutionary change the consciousness of the Soul in human form creates reflection. Reflection is thus natural to consciousness for it leads the awareness of what needs to change in order for evolution to proceed: of that which is crystallized. Reflection also allows consciousness to learn through the vehicle of hindsight. Because reflection infers the evolutionary necessity to change in order to evolve this then directly correlates to a consciousness feeling limited or blocked by the very nature of it's existing conditions, within itself, and external to itself, which can then lead to depression within the consciousness of the Soul. This is intentional from the point of view of Natural Laws, the laws set in motion by the Creator of All Things, in order for the Soul to make the changes necessary for it's evolution to proceed.

Saturn also correlates to gender assignment as either defined by the nature of the culture, society, or tribe of birth and/or natural laws. Thus gender conditioning either through artificial conditioning as a reflection of norms, customs, and taboos that are made by men as a  function of beliefs versus conditioning relative to natural laws: natural male or female.

With all of this in mind let's now create an EA analysis of the structural nature of the Soul consciousness of Darwin, and how that structural nature symbolizes his ongoing evolutionary development and needs: desires.

If you have any questions please ask them of me now.

God Bless, Rad

ari moshe

Hi Rad, will you clarify some more what you meant here? The linkage between motion and time:

QuoteTime is nothing more than that motion itself where motion equals time. One of the functions of time, motion, is aging.
Thank you.

Rad

Quote from: ari moshe on Sep 15, 2013, 01:01 PM
Hi Rad, will you clarify some more what you meant here? The linkage between motion and time:

QuoteTime is nothing more than that motion itself where motion equals time. One of the functions of time, motion, is aging.
Thank you.


Hi Ari,

If we have a starting point, and then an ending point, we have motion between those two points where motion is a function of velocity. Velocity within motion, no matter what the rate of that velocity is, creates time: the time it takes to get from point A to point B. Motion is also the determinant of gravity when combined with mass: Saturn. Thus, the center of gravity within consciousness where consciousness is then defined by the nature of the form, Saturn, that is within. Form correlates then with boundaries that correlate within consciousness to the natural boundary between conscious awareness that is determined by the egocentric structure within consciousness that is created by the Soul is any given life. The totality of consciousness of the Soul includes the subconscious or unconsciousness that is created by this natural boundary of Saturn between the egocentric awareness that is symbolized by the Moon, the natural polarity to Saturn, and the sub-conscious or unconsciousness of the Soul.

In our next step, the final steps, to our planetary method with will of course be focusing on Uranus and Neptune that symbolize this sub-conscious and unconsciousness of the Soul and how this affects the egocentric structure of the Soul's consciousness.

God Bless, Rad

ari moshe

Hi Rad, thanks for your response and all the wisdom that is being shared here.
Just want to fill you in - I'll be posting here b4 the end of this week and am setting for myself to post in the other thread by the end of the following week.
Love, am

ari moshe

#260
Darwin's Saturn.
Thank you for this ongoing opportunity for such lucid learning and growth Rad.
Love, am

Darwin's Saturn is in Sag in the 12th, in a balsamic conjunction with Neptune ruled by Jupiter which shares a mutual reception with Neptune. Saturn is also conjunct the AC, in a first quarter square with Mercury and a disseminating square with Pluto. Lucifer in Virgo in the 9th is in a last quarter square with Saturn. Saturn is first quarter trine with Venus in Aries on the IC.

Saturn is semi square the sn of Pluto in Cap in the 2nd. The Moon in Cap in the 2nd is in a crescent phase with Saturn - just at the very end of a semi square aspect.

The Moon is conjunct the sn of Pluto as well as the sn of Saturn in Cap in the 2nd which is joined by the sn's of Vesta, Venus and Mercury all in the same position. Saturn rules it's own sn.
The nn of Saturn is in Cancer in the 8th which is ruled by the Moon in Cap in the 2nd which brings us back to Saturn.

Saturn is in an exact sesquiquad with it's nn in Cancer in the 8th.
Mars in Libra in the 10th squares the nodal axis of Saturn in the 2nd and 8th.

The structure of this soul's consciousness has been oriented to understand the inherent principals of natural law that apply universally. This soul has been developing an understanding that explains how the totality of nature is conditioned to be in the form it is in; and how that form will ever change to reflect natural and universal principals.

Saturn symbolizes how the conditioning of the past becomes a gravity, a bottom line structural reality, for the consciousness of the soul in the present. With Saturn squaring the 9th 3rd house axis, and ultimately linked to a mutual rulership between Neptune and Jupiter, it's clear that this conditioning has been formed in part through extensive research/traveling/exposure to the diversity of life. This soul has formulated questions that have been oriented around understanding the bottom line why behind the nature of phenomenal existence (Jupiter Pluto Pisces 3rd). The soul has needed to establish philosophical security, to clearly define the nature of this existence by understanding the actual parameters/boundaries/rules of natural law. This then has allowed this soul to understand the nature of itself within the context of all of nature. The question then becomes, why did he need to establish such a clearly defined understanding?

In the past there has been great amount of inner need within this soul to have proof, Saturn, of all the kinds of beliefs and dogmas - many of which that have been held in the religious traditions of the masses. There would have been potent interfaces between this soul and with religious leaders/authorities that represented the religious rules of "right and wrong". In prior lives this soul has given itself quite fully to these religious rules and external authorities on the basis of wanting to do the right thing and align with what is true and ultimate. The balsamic to Neptune implies that there has already been a great degree of disillusionment regarding this, and that the life of Darwin was intended for this soul to release all kinds of strict, religious, dogmatic thinking that does not directly point to the direct knowledge of how nature is actually structured. In the context of his ea stage - this is of course ultimately building a comprehensive understanding of the mechanics that define and articulate how nature operates.

The progression within the soul of Darwin, as I understand it here, at some point seems to go back to religious and perhaps monastic/secluded Christian communities - Saturn in Sag in 12th with its sn in the 2nd in Cap, Pisces Virgo squares to Saturn, Lucifer in the 9th. In these communities there was a great deal of idealization and also disillusionment by way of various authorities becoming a contradiction to the law that they taught/idealized. The nature of these contradictions, in part, would have something to do with sexuality, sexual morality and beliefs regarding procreation that were antithetical to what was actually natural: sn of Saturn in 2nd in Cap relative to Saturn Neptune in Sag in the 12th. These teachers have not only been in contradiction to their teachings, but also hypocritical and flat out unethical. The main theme here would be various religious figures symbolizing an absolute connection to God, the universal truth. And through that symbology implying that there is only one way to God. This has created all kinds of confusion and emotional distortions within this soul.

This disillusionment then lead to it seems a long process of deconditioning; of working through the contradictions and even going to the extreme of rebelling against all of the repressed sexual and emotional urges. By the life of Darwin all of that had been exhausted to the point where he was able to come to his own conclusions, which in a sense brought an end to a very long chapter of seeking.

I want to speak a bit more to the archetype of the unknown and religious authority for this soul.
On the one hand, this Saturn position correlates to Darwin's soul intention to reconcile with the ultimate fear of the unknown. The fear of the unknown links to a fear of being alienated from, a part from nature, which itself links to a strong karmic Judeo/Christian belief in separation from source - and thus a set of moral and ethical standards that reflect those beliefs. These moral standards have always represented ideals that are not possible to embrace. As mentioned above, in some way there would have been prior lives, or a life, where this soul was involved in secluded, strict, religious monastic type of environments. In this past, he would have been completely immersed in a version of the truth that was not actually accessible/ was in contradiction to his own nature. He would have tackled the challenge of reconciling these ideas with scripture, through immersing himself in other people's spiritual and religious ideas, through long dialogues, all the intense 3rd 9th correlations in his chart. This at times would have resulted in crystal clarity as to the truth of whatever he was trying to convince himself to be true. Yet at times the clarity would not be there and he would be left with too many questions to be at peace with himself. On some level there also would have been some form of masochistic punishment involved as a result of this soul feeling plagued by his doubt. Lucifer in Virgo retro in the 9th squaring Saturn in Sag in the 12th.

So in establishing the rules and principals that he did during the life of Darwin he was able to find a form of forgiveness and relaxation in the sense of concluding for himself that the authority actually correlates to natural principals that are inherent to life, not some judging god.

On the other hand there was still a great amount of anxiety that could never actually be resolved during the life of Darwin. This anxiety is rooted in the reality that this soul would never be capable of achieving, via the faculties of his own mind, a full understanding of reality. There will always be questions. The mutable T squares in his chart point to the psychology of hopelessness and meaninglessness that has plagued the soul. Essentially that there will always be questions that cannot be answered - until the center of gravity within the soul shifts from identification with form/mind to identification with formless. Therefore even the rules he established as true did not provide ultimate philosophical security for this soul. In fact, as a necessary survival mechanism for himself, the natural principals that he established, by their very nature, easily opened the doors for the proof of life being void of any kind of higher meaning; no God, just natural principals of evolution. I understand that he identified mostly as an agnostic. He was open to the idea of God, just became increasingly less concerned with trying to address the question of God or to prove it one way or another. It's interesting to note how in many conservative religious communities around the world today the cosmology of Darwin is considered antithetical to Christian faith.

Here is an article that discusses whether or not Darwin believed in God. I am posting this here while we are on Saturn because it's clear that a part of Darwin's public presentation on God was likely influenced by the social/political climate of the time. To be publishing the work that he did, it's possible that he included sections on God because his own social esteem and success depended on it. This is signified by his natal Saturn in Sag in the 12th relative to the Mars in Libra in the 10th square to the nodes of Saturn with the sn of Saturn in Cap in the 2nd which I will address next"¦

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/09/did_darwin_believe_in_god.html
Here is a paragraph from that article that paraphrases something that Darwin expresses in Origin of the Species:

QuoteSome will argue, however, and rightly so, that Darwin did still believe in God when he wrote Origin of Species in 1859.  Though denying that God had a direct hand in creating species, he did nonetheless indicate that God created the natural laws of the cosmos, including the laws of evolutionary development.  He also interpolated a statement about a Creator breathing life into one or a few (primitive) organisms into the 1860 edition of Origin.

It's also possible (perhaps even in addition to what I stated above) that his words were expressedly true to this soul; that he had an intuitive sense of there being a creator that created the natural laws of evolution and that this creator IS NOT the Christian God of the bible. Rad do you have any insight/clarification regarding whether what he wrote was actually true to him or not?

As a bottom line context for this soul, with the sn of Saturn in Cap in the 2nd, squaring Mars in Libra in the 10th and ruled by Saturn in Sag in the 12th, he has had roles within society in the past that has allowed this soul to actualize his own authority within society, and on some level to influence the masses with the principals that he himself believed in. The energy of this of course points to a soul that has been incredibly stubborn about how its going about doing things; it's own inner compass of right and wrong. However based on the need to fulfill his social roles and duties, he has learned how to follow the
rules in order to fit into prevailing social constructs and to thus limit his own need for independence and total authority over his own life.

This has then lead to a great amount of repression and a rift between his inner world, personal life and the way in which he expressed himself/behaved in the outer world. Leading to the life of Darwin the soul has reached a station wherein it has become necessary to conserve his resources - to limit his own self expansion, unlimited freedom and create a secure, safe emotional environment; the need within this soul to establish emotional boundaries; to establish firm family roots that would allow this soul to heal and open up all that had been repressed and unintegrated emotionally.  Sn of Saturn conj Moon, Moon ruler of nn of Saturn in the 8th, Moon new crescent phase with Saturn.

A bit more on Mars in the 10th squaring the nodes of Saturn. This strongly relates to a concern with how he is regarded socially; how others will accept him or approve of him socially linked to the need to make a living and support his family. This links to Dampier's Saturn squaring the nodes with the sn in Libra relative to Pluto in the 7th. Dampier also had Mars in Libra in the 10th squaring the nodes of Saturn just as Darwin did. The intention has been for this soul to access the emotional realm instead of focusing entirely on his social persona, fitting in, in order to survive. The repression this soul enacted essentially created an iron wall that kept him safe from deeper intimacy. He developed a duplicity in his social skills that allowed him to function in the social world as he needed to, saying what he needed to all the while keeping his real self inside. In fearing to access his own anima, he perpetuated his own loneliness.

In the life of Dampier, as signified by Saturn in Cancer in the 8th squaring the nodes - applied to the nn in Aries in the 5th with it's ruler Mars in Libra in the 10th squaring that Saturn as well as the Sun in cancer in the 7th, the strong theme leading to that life seems to relate to correcting violations of natural ethics regarding sexuality/sexual responsibility towards women. These "violations" have been linked to his own repressed emotional/sexual needs which itself links back to his own Christian guilt: Virgo Moon ruling Saturn, Chiron in Virgo in the 9th squaring Neptune in Sag in the 1st, Jupiter ruling Neptune in the 12th in Sag.

The nn of Darwin's Saturn is in Cancer in the 8th and forms a gibbous phase sesquiquadrate with Saturn, noting that Saturn also forms a crescent phase semi square with the Moon, the ruler of the nn in Cancer. This implies, as stated above, the evolutionary intention to focus within and establish emotional boundaries that will allow the soul to heal and be nourished on the intimate human level. The reality of having neglected his emotional needs reached a total head in the life of Dampier, and in the life of Darwin he began to integrate and steady his emotional nature. This also implies the intention to simply take it easy as he uncovers the layer upon layer of emotional repression that has hid under his strong belief systems.

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This Saturn signature has corresponded to following his own inner compass, inner guidance system from a state of consciousness of not wanting to be limited, Saturn, by anything outside of himself - sn of Saturn in 2nd, sn of Jupiter in 1st all in Cap. This has then correlated to a need to maintain his own authority at all costs in order to protect himself from the unknown and to purge from himself the self anger and pain of having been completely let down by the religious authorities/god.

This need for total freedom from authority has itself been born only from a total fear of being limited by something much larger than himself. Consciously he has understood this as religion and the religious authorities, and by extension the social and moral codes of his time - he has wanted to live "off the grid" of mainstream thought, dogma and rules. Unconsciously however it has been the need to be free in order to seek his own answers; such seeking which would create a sense of control and thus safety in virtue of the principal that seeking always leads to finding. The nature of what he would find would become the basis of his own cosmology which would then serve to replace the guilt and anxiety of having violated religious law. The ongoing analogy of being out in the ocean, going to unknown places, has in part been a way for this soul to stay open to the unfolding revelation of the truth - instead of drowning in a fixed and established version of it.

Another way of saying this, he has needed to find meaning in something to believe in, and without that something to believe in there is a lingering feeling of being wrong, of being bad. His cosmology serves as a set of principles that would ultimately allow him to reconcile with his own nature, instead of feeling guilty about it (repressing it or indulging).

One final thought: throughout this soul's journey, this soul has totally internalized whatever truths he was choosing to identify with - becoming stubbornly fixed and self righteous about whatever he believed to be true. Sn in Taurus in the 5th full phase inconjunct with Saturn Neptune, Venus in Aries - ruler of sn - in a first quarter trine with Saturn. This created a strong attraction factor because of his sureness and confidence. Even though the nature of this soul has been to be open in the mind and to be very full of questions, it has always taken a long time for this soul to move from its position - to realize that his open mind is still narrow and fixed on a limited view of reality.

The tension in those signatures correlate to the need for Darwin to figure out how to actualize his special purpose in the world in a way that it can be accepted and acknowledged as credible by the world as it currently is. The full phase inconjunct with all the strong implications for talent, confidence and intellectual genius implies the need to let go of the way he would do it and to surrender to how it needs to be done. This he in fact did quite well. This signature also correlates to his over confidence in a typical 12th house 5th house kind of way - perhaps he saw himself as some sort of savior of the ignorance of the masses. Of course in truth he was playing a very healing role for the masses on many levels. Note that on the other end of that aspect, Saturn Neptune are new phase semi sextile to the north node in Scorpio in the 11th, with Pluto in the 3rd ruling the nn squaring Saturn: using his higher intellect and sharp mind to create ultimate meaning - the limitations of which being that it implies an mis-identification with human intelligence as the be all and end all.

It's meaningful to point out that his father represented a similar outlook as Darwin in terms of the bible. His father was a very successful physician and knew how to expand his fortune. When Darwin's mother died, his father become even more devoted to his work as a physician, which included frequent travel, leaving the care of the household mostly to his eldest daughters. This has been discussed a bit when we were examining Darwin's Moon. Here's a little section on his father:
On his father: http://www.darwincountry.org/explore/001557.html

His father became a symbol for someone successful and great, but was also on his own cloud, not always present and involved in the family as much as he was invested in his work. This seems to be a metaphor for Darwin's own inner relationship to the concept of "ultimate authority" - it was often impersonal and inconsistent, leaving him to figure things out for himself given the lack of any clear guidance from the outside. His father also seemed to carry the energy of confidence and sureness about his beliefs - as well as a man who lived by his principals.

QuoteCharles wrote of his father: "My father's mind was not scientific, and he did not try to generalise his knowledge under general laws; yet he formed a theory for almost everything which occurred. I do not think I gained much from him intellectually; but his example ought to have been of much moral service to all his children. One of his golden rules (a hard one to follow) was, "˜Never become the friend of anyone whom you cannot respect."

ari moshe

Hi Rad, just wanted to let you know I reviewed my last post and made a couple small edits. The changes were just to fix a couple inaccuracies/exaggerations on my part - nothing of the core content was changed in case you already read through it.
Love, am

Rad

Hi Ari,

First, thanks for taking the time to do the work you have on this segment of our planetary method of chart interpretation. All of your EA reasoning for the various dynamics of the structural nature of the consciousness of Darwin are extremely sound, as well as correct.

You asked:

Quote
Some will argue, however, and rightly so, that Darwin did still believe in God when he wrote Origin of Species in 1859.  Though denying that God had a direct hand in creating species, he did nonetheless indicate that God created the natural laws of the cosmos, including the laws of evolutionary development.  He also interpolated a statement about a Creator breathing life into one or a few (primitive) organisms into the 1860 edition of Origin.

It's also possible (perhaps even in addition to what I stated above) that his words were expressedly true to this soul; that he had an intuitive sense of there being a creator that created the natural laws of evolution and that this creator IS NOT the Christian God of the bible. Rad do you have any insight/clarification regarding whether what he wrote was actually true to him or not?

Yes. This is the actual reality for him. He pioneered what is now called natural science which of course is rooted in correlation and observation versus theory or hypothesis. We can see this relative to his Uranus being in Scorpio in the 11th, correlation and observation, trine his Pluto, etc, in Pisces in the 3rd which is then square his Saturn/Neptune: the phenomenal world. Thus, as you rightly said, the hypothesized God of the Christian Bible he rebelled and rejected because of this. Yet, at the same time, he pondered and considered that, of course, the phenomenal world was created by 'something'. That something of course is what we could call the natural God.

One thing I would add about the structural nature of his consciousness, which of course includes the necessary ego within it, is that his Soul was also invested in needing to be first, a pioneer, of the understanding that he came too and presented to the world: S.Node in Taurus in the 5th, Venus ruler in Aries in the 3rd, ruled by that Mars in Libra in the 10th. This is why he felt threatened by the simultaneous work of Wallace whom he wrote letters too, the stacked 3rd house, impressing on Wallace of all the years he had dedicated to his work on the 'Origin of the Species'. In other word, he needed, desired, to be first. It was integral to the structural nature of his consciousness.


Your EA work here is just brilliant work Ari. You, with the others, are truly helping those that have come to read this thread understand and learn EA. This is how it is meant to be done.

Bravo !!

God Bless, Rad

Upasika

Hi Rad,

I have had an unexpected large increase in my work load last week and now it's been extended into this week too, and I just haven't had a single chance to start anything at all yet. Everything has been pushed back, so now I'm aiming at getting started on things next weekend and posting as soon after that as I can. This will be my first priority, then the medical post (but please don't wait for me on that thread, I could really be quite a while getting to that). Sorry for the delay, I know it's taking a long time.

thanks Upasika

Rad

Hi Gonzalo,

First, thanks for taking the time to do the EA work you have on this next step in our planetary method: Saturn.

In reading through, several times, what you have presented I realized that you have in fact written what was going on within the structural nature of the consciousness of Darwin. I realized this by remembering what I wrote on Saturn for us here: that you essentially went through each of those paragraphs and answered them accordingly in what you have written.

And what you have written by way of all the various dynamics that formed the whole of the structural nature of Darwin's consciousness in essentially correct with some exceptions that are reflected in the questions you have asked me: below. The only 'problem' in what you have written that I had at first, as perhaps others who will read what you have written, is that it presented from the point of view of the structural nature of Darwin's consciousness. In other words you have captured all the inner dynamics that were indeed operating within his consciousness without referencing those dynamics to the structural nature of his consciousness as such.

You stated:

"It would have felt like lost somewhere undefined not knowing which way to go, and creating all types of non-linear or irrational experiences the individual has struggled to repress in order to maintain a sense of normalcy and stability of all of its constructions, translating into series of aberrational fears, phobias, obsessions, chronic muscular tension originating in the conflict between the desire to relax and the desire to control (ie. a conflict between pineal and pituitary), allergies and immune system disorders. Also, hemorrhoids because of alternating between relaxing and contracting the anal sphincter. With Uranus Scorpio conjunct the North Node, there could be some intense level of kundalini activity, coming from prior lifetimes, based on desires to "˜transcend' and liberate of boundaries and limitations, and a simultaneous need to repress such energy, which would be another contributing factor to confusional states, depersonalization, out of body experiences, extreme levels of stress, and the overall medical condition of Darwin. (Rad, please confirm if this is correct or not)."

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All of this is correct with the exception of the link to kundalini. All of what you have written is rooted in unresolved traumas from many prior lives of the Soul of Darwin which were repeated in various ways in the actual life of Darwin.

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Prior to this I wonder that the Saturn 12th House Sagittarius, relative to Pluto Pisces and all the mutable symbols, all reflect this Soul coming from some other planet that would be quite different as compared with Earth. It also reflects the potential impact of early mal-adaptation to human form when coming from other types of consciousness that were more united or were inseparable from Nature because of being less dualistic. Thus, I wonder whether all daemon souls on Earth came to this planet already within human form, or if some came in other forms that then evolved to human form-such as animals like wolves and dogs, but also as Nature spirits as elves, dwarves and fairies. Rad, if possible, could you please confirm or correct these speculations? "¦..

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Daemon Souls that come to this planet are already evolved to the point that they do not need to manifest in other forms, non-human, in order to evolve into human form. Yet such Souls can and do indeed manifest in other forms for reasons that are unique to each of these types of Souls.

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You have captured many of the operation dynamics within the total structural nature of the consciousness of Darwin Gonzalo, and now those dynamics interacted within/ among themselves to create the 'reality' of Darwin. There are other dynamics that you did not capture but I am sure that this is because of your life and what you have/ are needing to do right now. For example, are core dynamic that you missed was the fact that Darwin desired, needed, to be 'first' relative to the realizations and understandings that he came too that all went into his book. Thus, a competitiveness that was an underlying yet defining dynamic for the whole of his consciousness.

Excellent EA work Gonzalo. Bravo !!

God Bless, Rad

Rad

Hi Gonzalo,

Quote from: Gonzalo on Oct 07, 2013, 10:59 AM
Hi Rad,
Thanks so much for the feedback, and the answers. Yes, I based what I wrote in the introduction you made about the Saturn archetype ...

I'm not sure to understand correctly one indication you gave, which is enigmatic to me ...

QuoteThe only 'problem' in what you have written that I had at first, as perhaps others who will read what you have written, is that it presented from the point of view of the structural nature of Darwin's consciousness. In other words you have captured all the inner dynamics that were indeed operating within his consciousness without referencing those dynamics to the structural nature of his consciousness as such.

My intuition is that what I wrote is like considering the structure of consciousness as external to consciousness, instead of realizing that the structure of the consciousness, its energy, is created by consciousness, and is consciousness itself .. ie. that consciousness is not inside, or trapped within  the structure, but is also in the structure ...  is it about this?

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Yes, in a way because the consciousness within the Soul is the determinant, relative to desires, of all that it creates including the very structural nature of it's conscious awareness in each life. And that the structural nature of is consciousness, it's sense of reality that is caused by that structure, is a function of all kinds of INNER DYNAMICS that have been set in motion over many, many lifetimes that all combine, in any given life, to create that structural awareness within consciousness of the Soul. The motion of all those inner dynamics then creates a gravity point within that consciousness wherein all of the dynamics can correlate to a 'mass' that is in motion, evolution, so that the structural nature of it's consciousness, reality, evolves as those dynamics change over time. So, to me, what you wrote in very accurate relative to the dynamics that you identified but it's this understanding of how the actual structural nature of Darwin's consciousness came to be what it is that I found lacking. But that is just my reading of what you presented. Others very well may see exactly what I don't see.


God Bless, Rad

Upasika

Hi Rad,

Just a quick note - I have an unexpected ongoing emergency to help someone with, plus starting a new job, and a pile up of pre-Mercury retrograde "items" (eg taxes) to process, so I still haven't been able to get pen to paper yet. All this week, the weekend and next week are all earmarked to deal with these things and I won't be able to start until the following weekend (2nd/3rd). I'm sorry to delay so badly again, and thank you for your patience.

On another note I just want to thank you for the powerful blessing and deep wishes you gave me a while ago now ... for my heath to recover to the maximum extent possible. Of course there were many factors at play, but I know for a certainty that was a potent force that played a unique role in my recovery - which, although it's early days yet, seems to be a very good one - what I had dreamed of attaining but was so far away from that I couldn't ever imagine it. I'm back to 90% full functioning, and the remaining improvement would just seem to be a matter of care & time now. Your blessing helped to imagine this and seeded a deep hope that maybe I could be healed.

And that hope percolated away and eventually led to me trying a very, very expensive physical healer (with a great reputation for results) who I had known about all along but resisted seeing for 5 years because I never had the huge amounts of money his treatment materials required, but this time I decided to get a (really expensive) loan and just do it. And this paid off - this man and his partner have done what all the other doctors couldn't do, so thank you!

blessings Upasika

Rad

Hi Upasika,

Just simply wonderful news about your body and Soul recovering your health. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

God Bless, Rad

Gray

Rad,

I do want to let you know that I am hoping to have something posted on Saturn by the end of this week. In case you feel like you need to move on, I also understand as it has taken me so long to post.

Upasika, I am also happy to hear hopeful news regarding your health.

Happy Mercury retrograde!
Gray

Rad

Hi Gray,

As long as you still desire to post on this Planetary Thread we will just keep doing so no matter how long it takes you, Gonzalo, Ari, and Upasika to post on any given segment. The incredible quality of the EA work all of you are doing, and those that had been posting before they dropped out, is simply exceptional work that allows all those who have come to read this thread learn EA in the way it is meant to be done. So much so that we are contemplating turning this thread on the Planetary Method, when finished, into an actual book so that it can have an even larger distribution than it does now.

God Bless, Rad