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« Reply #75 on: Nov 28, 2013, 01:55 pm »

Hi Rad,

I am sorry to hear that your brother passed on this past week.  Blessings to you and your family.

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« Reply #76 on: Nov 28, 2013, 03:05 pm »

Hi Simon,

First, thanks for taking the time that you have to work on this. Your EA analysis of the 11th house Neptune, both in the consensus and individuated EA states, does correctly capture some of the dynamics involved wherein the causes of a projected ultimate meaning leading to disillusionment, by way of the illusions generated that are rooted in that projection, are correct. This is an very good first effort Simon. Good for you !

God Bless, Rad

Hi Rad -
Firstly I would like to share with you my deepest condolences to you and your family during this time.

Thank you for taking the time to read through the assignment and supporting me as it being my first attempt.
First of many.

God bless

Simon
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« Reply #77 on: Nov 28, 2013, 06:08 pm »

Dear Rad,

It's so sad to lose a brother.

My deepest sympathy goes to you.

Love,

Linda
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« Reply #78 on: Nov 28, 2013, 08:26 pm »

Rad and Heather,
My condolences.  My heart goes to you, your families, your ancestors.

God Bless,
Katherine
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« Reply #79 on: Nov 30, 2013, 09:13 am »

Wow, thank you everyone for your condolences. They are so appreciated. I look forward to continuing here with all of you.
Heather
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« Reply #80 on: Nov 30, 2013, 05:20 pm »

Heather and Rad - lots of love to you and to your father Heather and your brother Rad on the next phase of their soul journey. God bless!
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« Reply #81 on: Dec 01, 2013, 05:59 am »

Rad,

Also sorry to hear about the loss of your brother.

Take care, all the best!
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« Reply #82 on: Dec 02, 2013, 08:44 am »

Hi All,

So we will now begin our next step with our Neptune thread. My intention, again, is to try to keep this as simple, Neptune, as possible at this point. We have just focused on how the Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th House can correlate to where a Soul can project it's ultimate sense of meaning for life with the resulting disillusionment that will come when that projection is anything other than the desire to know the Ultimate Source Of All Things. All of you chose to put Neptune in whatever house that you decided to do in order to illustrate how that actually would manifest.

One of the archetypal dimensions of the Neptune archetype, because it is about the Ultimate Source of All Things is rooted in the fact that that Source can inwardly induce within the consciousness of the individual Soul impulses manifesting as thoughts that leads to desires to act upon, actualize, those impulses. These impulses are linked with the ongoing evolutionary journey of each Soul, and these impulses, if acted upon, are one of the ways that a Soul can 'spiritiualize' their lives. This spiritualization occurs OF ITSELF if acted upon. In other words, any given Soul may not even have the language of the Source Of All Things, a religion or philosophy, within their consciousness. Yet, if acted upon, because these impulses are being ignited by the Source a NATURAL spiritualization process will occur. Thus, this can manifest in any of the four natural evolutionary states of the Soul.

These impulses will be linked with the natal placement of Neptune by house and sign, and the aspects to the other planets that it makes: the archetypes of those planets and houses. These impulses will also manifest via the 12th House, and the location of the sign Pisces in the birth chart which then refers back to the natal house location of Neptune: the natural planetary ruler of Pisces.

These impulses, anatomically speaking, manifest from pineal gland deep within the brain by way of a hormone called melatonin. The neurotransmitters within the brain carries these impulses to the right and left brain hemispheres that originally manifest as a deep inner 'whisper' within the consciousness of the individualized Soul, whispers that reflect and contain the 'messages' of the impulses themselves. These whispers at first manifest within the right brain kinda like a big sign way in the distance that will progressively become ever closer IF the Soul pays attention to it.  On that sign will be some sort of message, like on a billboard, that symbolizes the very nature of the original impulses themselves. So, for example, on the billboard there could be sign that symbolizes movies. In time that sign will manifest as messages by way of the left brain that would then translate, for example, into the IDEA of being a film maker. The left brain will then begin to analyze and figure out how to make that idea a reality: from a to z, so to speak.

If the Soul does indeed to desire to act upon these original impulses of Neptune, etc, in this natural way, then a natural spiritualization of the Soul's consciousness will occur because, after all, these impulses are being induced the Source Of All Things. So to act upon them is to move in the direction of that Source in ways that are natural to each Soul.

So what I would like you to do now is to place Neptune in any house and sign that you wish and to create an EA analysis of how, what,  and where those impulses from the Source Of All Things manifest in that house and sign. And please be mindful of the various EA states within your analysis. One size does not fit all. Just now I want to keep this simple. Later on we will expand on all this.

If you have any questions on this please ask them of me now.

God Bless, Rad
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« Reply #83 on: Dec 03, 2013, 07:02 am »

Hi Rad,

I think you missed my question about the Sun also possibly correlating with the individualised consciousness along with the Moon. Does it?

Thanks
all the best
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« Reply #84 on: Dec 03, 2013, 07:59 am »

Hi Rad,

I think you missed my question about the Sun also possibly correlating with the individualised consciousness along with the Moon. Does it?

Thanks
all the best


Hi Skywalker,

The Sun gives purpose to that individualized consciousness that correlates with the Moon, and how that individualized consciousness, relative to the entire EA paradigm, is integrated relative to that purpose throughout the current life of a Soul.

God Bless, Rad
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« Reply #85 on: Dec 08, 2013, 07:43 pm »

Neptune in the 12th House in Scorpio

When God whispers in one’s ears the intent is for the soul to align itself with a transcendental belief system in order to realize the unity of all of Creation and to experience their individuality as an extension of the source of Creation. The message instills a desire to dissolve all of the barriers that are preventing the soul from merging their power with the collective whole and return to God.

Some resist the pull to surrender to the Source while others embrace it. Those who reject it choose to carry on as before and deny any source outside themselves. In doing so, they become very ego oriented. This in turn causes them to experience states of powerlessness at some point in time in order to correct the situation.  These states of powerlessness can manifest in the form of physical disabilities, physical confinement, or being blocked from exercising any power at all. As harsh as it sounds, this occurs in order to inspire them to embrace the collective whole, and the Source of All, rather than the ego.

Others may only respond to these impulses, or whispers from God,  only in times of personal crisis. During such time, they will turn to God and pray for help. In general, they will experience periods  of meaninglessness, futility, or disillusionment throughout their lives which serve to force them upon the path back to God.

Others respond and react to the whispers of God,  allowing their ego created limitations to be dissolved, so they can become channels through which God, or the Source, operates.

Those who respond, or react, to this impulse in this way feel a desire to return to God on a conscious or unconscious level. There is a bit of a paradox here, as the Pisces archetype accepts God and the soul’s ability to return to its source with blind faith, while the Scorpio archetype insists on penetrating to the core of the matter and demands proof that there is a God and that it is possible for the soul to return to the source and be as one with God. An individual with Neptune in the 12th House in Scorpio will therefore focus on examining what he or she already believes and knows. He or she needs to experience directly, even though he or she already believes in that which it needs and desires to experience.

The soul with Neptune in the 12th House in Scorpio will use both his or her intuitive faculties and analytical capabilities in order to carry out this investigation. Over time, he or she will progressively become less self-focused and self-oriented and more oriented towards serving the needs of others, including humanity as a whole, as there is an impulse to make a difference in the world and a desire to follow this calling from God.

The soul with Neptune in the 12th House in Scorpio desires to live a life of purpose and meaning.  He or she will pursue this goal with passion, striving to share his or her God given gifts with the world, while serving others in some way.

On an anatomical level, these impulses, or whispers from God, manifest from the pineal gland via the hormone melatonin. They are received by the right brain in the form of a feeling that the Neptune in the 12th House in Scorpio soul feels deeply on an emotional level. It may come telepathically or in the form of a dream or a deja vu, or through some type of imaginative or artistic work. No matter how the message is sent, it easily slips into the individual’s conscious awareness from the unconscious making itself felt on an emotional level. It is then processed by the left brain which works towards figuring out what the symbolism impressed upon the right brain means. The individual will seek quiet time alone in order to analyze his or her dreams and/or the symbolism that springs forth from his or her art and/or unconscious.

This transcendental impulse, or message from God, will cause change to occur in both the individual and in his or her life.  The intent is for the soul to evolve, so this change is necessary. This can lead to cyclic meltdowns as that which is not real, but is an illusion, will dissolve out of the individual’s life. This can cause the individual to become disoriented.  He or she will start wondering about the meaning of life and may feel as though he or she is losing control. Everything may seem meaningless during these key points in time. This serves to re-enforce the desire to find meaning and purpose in life by identifying with the collective or whole and ultimately return to God.

In the case of the consensus soul, this desire to make a difference and to live a life of purpose and meaning may influence the individual to do something that benefits his or her community in some way.  He or she may be attracted to volunteer work of some type, social work, or pursue a career that allows him or her to reach out and help others. Raising money for charity is one possibility as is counselling people with drug and alcohol problems or working in a hospice.  The possibilities are numerous.

The consensus soul may also be inspired to align him or her self with some kind of transcendent belief system.  The individual may feel a need to start going to church as he or she likely believes, or feels, that in order to find God, one must attend church and abide by the dogma of his or her consensus religion. He or she is likely to choose a traditional church that is recognized and accepted by the consensus society or culture that he or she is a member of.  More likely than not, he or she will chose one belonging to the denomination that he or she was raised in, or that of his or parents or grandparents.

When the whisper of God is received and welcomed by the soul with Neptune in the 12th house, the soul may be inclined to spend much time in prayer or meditation in quiet and seclusion.  The consensus soul is more likely to pray than meditate.  The difference being that when one prays, one talks to God, when one meditates, one allows God to speak to them.

Like most people with Neptune in the 12th House in Scorpio, the consensus soul will enjoy spending time alone. He or she may simply enjoy spending quiet times in a room of one’s own at home or taking walks on a beach or some other natural environment.  He or she may decide to create a garden, paint, write poetry or play a musical instrument. In these ways, the consensus soul begins to learn how to meditate.

Sexual fantasies and themes are also common as the individual with Neptune in the 12th House in Scorpio yearns for a spiritual form of ecstasy on a sexual level.  The consensus soul may express these desires in the form of sexual role play through which he or she seeks a connection with the divine via his or her sexual partner.

In the case of the individuated soul, this desire to make a difference and to live a life of purpose and meaning is likely to inspire him or her to do something that benefits others not only in his or her community, but on a grander scale. He or she desires to serve the public at large in some way. Think of the poet or the songwriter with a message for humanity, the Peace Corps volunteer, relief workers in Africa, Green Peace volunteers, animal rights activists, so on and so forth. Some may choose to work as psychics, astrologers, tarot readers, spiritual counsellors, visual artists, musicians. Again, the possibilities are many.

Those who are inspired to align themselves with some kind of transcendent belief system may feel a need to explore religions that are very different than those he or she was brought up in or exposed to early in life.  For example, someone brought up as a Catholic, may decide to become a Buddhist or study Hinduism. Some, especially since Neptune is in Scorpio, may delve into the Occult and New Age philosophies. Some may align themselves with pagan religions. The individuated soul with Neptune in the 12th House in Scorpio is attracted to religions or spiritual philosophies that are considered “taboo” relative to those prescribed by, and accepted by, the consensus society or culture that they are rebelling against.

Like most souls with Neptune in the 12th House in Scorpio, the individuated soul will also attempt to create a place, or a space,  in which he or she can be alone with him or her self in order to explore his or her own innermost self. He or she may take up some form of Yoga and begin to learn how to meditate. At this stage, the soul is usually attracted to Hatha Yoga at first, and then progressively moves on to other forms as well. It is also possible that an individuated individual may experiment with mind altering drugs in an attempt to induce a mystical experience.

The individuated soul yearns for a spiritual form of ecstasy on a sexual level just as all souls with Neptune in the 12th House in Scorpio do.  The individuated soul may seek the divine in the form of his or her sexual partner, just as those in the consensus state do.  In addition, he or she may experiment with pseudo forms of Tantric Yoga. Although the goal in Tantric Yoga is sacred sex and connecting with the divine through one’s partner, those in the individuated state are more likely to focus on the physical aspects of Tantra than experiencing scared sex in its highest form.

In the case of the spiritual stage soul, this desire to make a difference and to live a life of purpose and meaning involves overcoming his or her own ego and focusing instead on compassion, humility, community service and love for humanity in all aspects of his or her life. 

Those who are inspired to follow some kind of transcendent belief system may feel a need to isolate themselves and spend a great deal of time meditating and experiencing God from within. He or she may practice some form of Raja Yoga. The spiritual stage soul with Neptune in the 12th House may have an intense interest in reading and studying the sacred texts and scriptures of all religions.  Although the individual is not very likely to align him or her self with any one religion or spiritual philosophy, he or she is likely to spend time researching and studying them all. He or she is capable of seeing the common thread that underlies them all.  He or she also understands that the religions that are based upon these ancient texts have, for the most part, distorted these truths. If he or she felt a need to align him or her self with a spiritual philosophy, it would have to be one that teaches that the answers can only be found within, that the Kingdom of God lies within us, and that we are all but one small part of the greater whole.  Gnosticism and Theosophy are good examples of such spiritual philosophies. In any case, those in the spiritual stage seek truth and meaning from within.  They meditate in order to allow messages from the soul, higher self and the Source to speak directly to them.
In addition, they adhere to natural law, whether they are conscious of doing so or not.

The spiritual stage soul yearns for a spiritual form of ecstasy on a sexual level just as all souls with Neptune in the 12th House in Scorpio do.  At this stage the soul has an understanding of the unity and oneness of all and is capable of practicing Tantric Yoga in its true form or engaging in sacred sex with his or her partner.

All of these souls, in each of these states, have chosen to suffer in some way as part of the spiritualization process, as in order to feel empathy and compassion for others, one must first learn what it feels like to feel pain and suffer themselves. In this way, the Neptune in the 12th House in Scorpio soul can truly understand the emotional realities and needs of others. Empathy leads to a desire to help others and to give to others what they actually need without thought of oneself or expectation of something in return. In doing so, the soul evolves as its consciousness shifts away from the ego and towards the collective or whole.  Those in the spiritual state are capable of feeling the pain and suffering of the collective whole. In any case, the soul with Neptune in Scorpio is learning to put others first before themselves.

All Neptune in the 12th House in Scorpio souls process their life experiences through their emotional bodies, as direct experience enables them to fully experience the natural consequences of their choices and desires. In this way they develop the ability to feel empathy and compassion for others. In addition, this is how they grow and evolve on a spiritual level.

All souls with Neptune in the 12 House in Scorpio may struggle to find a way in which they can make a meaningful difference in the world. Although the desire to make a difference may be strong, the individual may find him or her self feeling that no matter what he or she does, their power to change anything is limited.

In the case of the consensus individual, he or she may suffer along with the rest of his or her community when a natural disaster strikes, or a young soldier from his or her community is killed in battle in some foreign land, or a neighbor loses a child.  Although he or she feels the others pain, he or she feels helpless as there is nothing in his or her power he or she can do to change what happened.

The individuated soul may suffer when he or she reads or hears about animal abuse, war, a natural disaster in some distant place, or other events that are more global in nature than just those in his or her every day life and community. He or she is likely to feel powerless in regard to what he or she can do about such events or situations other than signing petitions or protesting.

The Spiritual Soul may suffer from anything he or she encounters that goes against natural law on any level. He or she feels the collective pain of others no matter who are where they are.

In all cases, this suffering cannot be avoided as no one person can change the world.  No one is meant to.  We are here to change ourselves, not the world. The physical world is merely a place in which we are born in order to learn the lessons that each of as individual souls need to learn in order to fulfill our divine destiny and return to the Source. We are not here to change this world, but rather to learn from our experiences in it and develop and evolve our souls.

Anyone who thinks that they can change the world is delusional.  The soul with Neptune in Scorpio in the 12th house will try and they will suffer from feelings of powerlessness and frustration in the process. This will occur until they realize that they can only change themselves and their true role is to help others do the same. In this way, they can serve God by helping others learn to grow, evolve and return to the Source.
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« Reply #86 on: Dec 08, 2013, 07:59 pm »

Hi Rad, I'll be posting mine by Tuesday day.
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« Reply #87 on: Dec 09, 2013, 02:12 am »

Hi Rad,

I removed my last assignment which I felt was not complete.  I'd like to add more depth and meaning to my work, so am re-working it and doing more research.  I'm feeling more inspired today and am receiving revelations on how to approach the assignment in a better way.  I'll be able to post the same day as Ari (which is the deadline for everyone).

Thanks.

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« Reply #88 on: Dec 10, 2013, 04:11 am »

Dear Rad and everyone,


I'm so much happier with my second attempt:


EA Analysis

How, What and Where the impulses and whispers originating from Source
can manifest as messages, thoughts and signposts in a Soul with:

– Neptune in Libra in the 11th house
– 12th house ruled by Venus
– Pisces on the 5th house cusp
– Approaching the end of 3rd stage Individuated



Intro – The Source inwardly induces within the consciousness of the Soul an archetypal dimension of Neptune that manifests as impulses and thoughts that lead to desires being acted upon.  The desires that are acted upon lead to ways the Soul can naturally “spiritualize” its life.  The impulses, linked with the evolutionary journey of the Soul, manifest from the pineal gland (“the third eye”) as a deep inner “whisper” that contains messages within the consciousness of the Soul, like a big signway or billboard, that symbolize the original impulses being induced by Source.  When the Soul desires to act upon these impulses of Neptune by way of moving in the direction of Source, a natural spiritualization of the Soul’s consciousness occurs.  


Neptune in Libra in the 11th house is a healing signature for past traumas.  The Soul experienced psychic disillusionment and severe trauma in past lives.  This could also be a signature of suicide, alcoholism, drug abuse, and any other kind of escapism.  Some of these Souls feel they cannot be here anymore because what they have projected Ultimate Meaning onto is being dissolved.  Having lost the natural relationship to Source or to Nature through the distortions of the patriarchy, the Soul is on a quest to regain meaning, fulfillment, joy, the natural self, and his natural relationship to Source. It is via the process of disillusionment that the void becomes filled with the Truth of God.


1.   3rd stage Individuated – The Soul is discovering who he is independent of Consensus conditioning.  Feeling different from the majority of people he is detaching and objectifying himself and reality through independent thinking.  Investigating different ways of understanding life progressively expands his consciousness.  The Soul has unique gifts and capacities that he is able to offer society yet he will stand apart from it.  He is aware of the relativity of beliefs, values and moralities of the world.  He is progressively opening his consciousness up to the real or natural God.  Since the Individuated stage of evolution correlates to Uranus, having Neptune in the 11th house reveals that this Soul has been very deeply questioning the nature of existence and creation, and his courage and desire to “individuate” creates an acceleration of the Soul’s evolution and spirituality.  


2.   Pluto paradigm: the ongoing evolutionary journey of the Soul – From the Pluto paradigm can be ascertained why this Soul has Neptune in Libra in the 11th house.  The impulses and whispers induced by Source manifest within the Soul as returning desires.  The Soul and every other Soul, no matter what evolutionary stage, are evolving back to Source.  Neptune in a non-stressful sextile to natal Pluto creates the impulse to isolate from the external environment in order to effect self-contemplation and integration of spirituality.  With Uranus coming out of the disseminating phase and approaching a last quarter square aspect with Neptune, the Soul needs to interact socially with periods of isolation.  The Soul that has created a separate self from life to life seeks ultimate meaning in something to fill the void.  Impulses and whispers from the Source effects evolution through sudden revelations, arousing and mobilizing the Soul to action.  It is by the Grace of God that the Soul receives the impulses and whispers of God that allow a natural spiritualization to occur.  


3.  Natal Neptune – The Soul has a desire to experience transcendental reality through faith.  The Soul tunes into the collective unconscious pertaining to the whole human race which alters his perception of reality, and into the collective conscious which is the totality of thoughts and vibrations on a conscious level.  Resistance to the dissolution of the ego triggers confusion, disorientation and unconscious fears.  Surrender to the impulses and whispers of God allow the ego to be dissolved.  This process brings transformational change, healing, love, loving kindness, empathy, and forgiveness of self and others.  The loss of ego will lead to the revealing of the true and authentic self.


4.  Natal Neptune in Libra – The Soul desires to learn how to be in relationship by actualizing and developing spiritual desires and needs through relationships with individuals, friends and groups in order to balance the levels of giving and receiving.  With others, he will explore ways of relating that are independent of the existing social conventions, such as rebelling against traditional gender assignments, or playing out both male and female principles.  Impulses and whispers from Source prompt the Soul to action by carrying out what partners, friends or groups need from him, or what God wants for him regarding sustained efforts that actualize equality and balance.  These Divine messages inspire the Soul to psychically attune to the desires, needs and expectations of others.  This happens by way of developing the awareness to actually “listen” objectively to the reality of others, and not just through the filter of his personal reality.  Being able to truly love others by giving them what they actually need builds a commitment to a spiritual or philosophical system of thought.  He is also able to fulfill a personal vision that correlates with his own sense of unique purpose.  


In past lives there had been psychological and symbiotic enmeshment with others due to excessive proximity and dependency.  Feeling so symbiotically tied to others can create a need for freedom, detachment or escape.  Because the Soul is sharing and comparing himself with others, this produces the ability to have deep discussions regarding the nature of expectations.  Thus through this process he is able to understand a larger context, and a different, deeper perspective of the nature of the dynamics and issues of interpersonal relationships.  The messages occurring naturally in the Spirit would bring balance to dynamics that have reached extremes of imbalance.  The kinds of messages and signposts change to reflect the Soul’s ongoing need for further spiritualization, in effect bringing in new relationships, friendships and involvements with progressive groups, thus fulfilling a collective need.


Through these impulses and whispers from the Divine, the Soul is able to love unconditionally, not conditionally, with the power to transform his life, the lives of others, and to truly forgive others.  From here, he is able to progressively dissolve ego barriers that are preventing merging with the Cosmic Whole.  The whisper from Source brings to a Soul with Neptune in Libra in the 11th house through his relationships with others, a capacity for deep healing, wisdom, insight, forgiveness, equality, balance, natural goodness, love of others, and love of self.  


What leads to disillusionment in the Soul is a very persistent repetitive belief, need and projection over many lifetimes that he needs a partner.  He may believe that in order to feel completely whole and fulfilled there is a necessity to find a woman, a partner, and to not be alone.  In this way, he moves from one relationship to the next, believing that the next partner will be the right one.  The whisper from God comes to the Soul by way of a message that nothing outside of himself can bring satisfaction, and that no partner or friend can complete the Soul.  At his stage of evolution, the Soul is just beginning to learn that we are made for and compliment God, and not each other.  When the Soul understands and acts upon the spiritual messages he will understand that only a relationship with God will bring satisfaction.  


5.   Natal Neptune in the 11th house – The impulse originating from Source during times of self-contemplation occurs through repetitive thought patterns that pertain to the Soul’s future.  The Soul will receive a signposts regarding when to act at the right time.  Acting upon these messages enables the Soul to liberate itself from outmoded conditioning patterns that had generated trauma, shock, fragmentation, alienation or hysteria in past lives.  Repeating messages direct the Soul to stand back and view reality objectively.  He may be prompted to join groups, social causes, or humanitarian movements, for a shared or social purpose.  These messages may direct him toward altruistic or philanthropic work for others.  The impulse from Source will lead to rebelling from existing conditions of stagnation and non-growth.  


“A friend in need is a friend indeed!”


The Soul may be guided to form an intimate relationship with someone in order that both learn how to objectively see the nature of their reality.  Through learning objectively about the dynamics of relationships the Soul is able to effect deep transformational change, and heal past trauma, wounds and phobias.  He could be led to form an intimate relationship with someone who had been a friend, or vice versa, become a friend to someone with whom he had been hopelessly enmeshed.  Some relationships or friendships allow the Soul to expand his consciousness through accepting the individual differences and diversity of life so that evolutionary growth progresses.  


The Soul may be guided to form a partnership of like-mindedness to fulfill a shared objective or goal of a social context or non-intimate nature.  He may find it difficult to differentiate his personal values from group values, or express his own identity because of becoming too fused or devoted to others.  Yet the transcendental impulse will allow a letting go or surrender of fixed obsolete values in order that evolution continue.  In this way, outmoded patterns in the Soul’s individuated unconscious are transformed.  A whisper from Source may suddenly allow the Soul to find his courage, to stand up for a social cause, develop spiritual conviction to help or rescue others, or self-sacrifice himself for others, thereby not only expressing uniqueness, strength and individuality, but fulfilling a higher purpose for Source.  


“The Arousing – Shock and Thunder!”

Thunder repeated: the image of SHOCK.
Thus in fear and trembling
The superior man sets his life in order
And examines himself.

The shock of continuing thunder brings fear and trembling. The superior
man is always filled with reverence at the manifestation of God; he sets his
life in order and searches his heart, lest it harbor any secret opposition to the
will of God. Thus reverence is the foundation of true culture.

– I-Ching


The Soul may receive the whisper in the form of shock, astonishment, surprise, or his hair standing on end when a spiritual thought wants to distinguish itself from the ordinary workings of the mind.  Another way God’s whisper takes place is through synchronicity, confirming that the Soul is on the right path at the right time.  In this way the Soul is led step by step to surrender to the Spirit that gives him free rein.  The whisper from Source brings to the Soul with Neptune in the 11th house a capacity for egalitarianism, autonomy, equality, sovereignty, and freedom.  God whispers that we are all equal, that no-one is any better than anyone else.  Through experiences of sudden spiritual awakening, the bonds of conditioning are broken, and past trauma and blocks to liberation are removed.  


6.   Aspects to Neptune – Neptune sextile Pluto.  Neptune in the 11th house and natural ruler of Pisces inconjunct Pisces on the 5th house cusp.  This aspect generates crisis and self-scrutiny.  While Pisces symbolizes the Divine, the Timeless, the Absolute, the 5th house symbolizes the Soul’s personal will, power, and creative purpose.  Through this aspect, the impulse to spiritualize takes place through receiving messages as to what the Soul needs to do to atone, adjust, purify, improve self, and be of service to others.  Messages or signposts could manifest through dreams or waking consciousness with visions such as joining a group (AA for instance) where the Soul can rehabilitate from past abuse of drugs, alcohol and marijuana.  Or, the signpost could appear as the “next creative venture” through collaboration with like-minded others in the arts, music, or drama.  This course leads to taking action through the strength of his will, fulfilling an individual purpose of creative self-actualization as well as a group purpose to be of service to the group.


7.   Sign on the 12th house cusp Libra ruled by Venus – In addition to Neptune being in the sign Libra, the 12th house cusp is ruled by Libra, and Venus will be found somewhere in the chart.  Venus ruling the 12th house pertains to creating and projecting a sense of Ultimate Meaning onto relationships that are culminating in some way.  The impulse from Source occurs through the imagination, introspection, dream-state, or daydreaming.  The Soul is capable of universal and unconditional love being ultra-sensitive to the needs of others, compassionate, sympathetic, and self-sacrificing.  The 12th correlates to the impulse to transcend all that has come before, to withdraw, retreat, or become reclusive, yet also to tie up loose ends.  


With Pisces on the 5th, and Libra on the 12th, this combination points to Neptune and its higher octave Venus corresponding to the Heart chakra.  The Heart and Crown chakras resonate together and manifest unity consciousness.  While Neptune correlates to unconditional love which has no expectations attached to it, Venus correlates to conditional love which can stand for expectations and projected needs onto the other.  While the lower octave Venus manifests as a function of evolutionary and karmic imperatives, the higher octave Neptune manifests as the universal timeless Natural Law of sharing, caring, and giving to others.  The finite plus the Infinite.  The octave transformer Juno (sacred marriage) acts as a bridge between the conscious and the unconscious, raising the values of Venus to Neptunian compassion.  


When a relationship falls away, what is left?  The Self.  The Soul, guided by an unseen power, is able to survive the emptiness of being alone, through his ability to detach and objectively observe these dynamics.  Slowly the obsessive need diminishes and he is able to let go of the addiction be it to a partner, alcohol, drugs, or other escape mechanism.


The whispers from God helps the Soul to become open, healed and free.  The impulse from God allows him to love, care, bond with others, and make a commitment to a philosophical or spiritual system of thought.  The Soul will be sent impulses from God that allow him to realize the unity inside the diversity, the Higher Consciousness in which we are all One, and the true reality that is Love.  The Soul realizes that his intense need or addiction for friends and relationships gets him entangled in duality, while the whisper of God beckons him toward the search for Truth, peace, tranquility and pure bliss.  He learns that friends and partners merely enhance the Truth of God, and do not replace it.  


8.   Location of the sign Pisces on the 5th house cusp – The Soul desires to actualize itself in a way that is symbolic of its own individuality.  The impulse or whisper could lead to messages of ways how to actualize himself through relationships, love affairs, creativity, the arts, or music.  Signposts that manifest in self-contemplation could be instigating a love affair based on idealization and glamorization of a partner with a desire to put them up on a pedestal, and make them the centre of their universe.  With the 5th house being a phallic symbol, the Soul could learn a lesson in equality in giving and receiving when engaging in natural sexuality.  


The Soul feels pulled towards Love in its many forms from familial, to friendship, to romance, to the Divine.  There is a compelling need to gain insight through surrender as the Soul’s guidepost.  With the Soul approaching the end of 3rd stage Individuated, there is some unrest when he worries, “What about my purpose?”  “What will I do now?”  Anxiety about what to do next is akin to Divine boredom.  The Soul receives a whisper to let his concerns and attachments fall away, bringing him Peace.




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Thank you Rad, and group!
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« Reply #89 on: Dec 10, 2013, 07:29 am »

Hi Rad and group,

Here´s my go at this. Thank you all for participating and Rad for your guidance.

Neptune and how to spiritualize.

Neptune in the 5th house with Pisces on the 8th house cusp and Cancer on the 12th house cusp,  Spiritual stage of evolution 1st substage.

In this assignment we will look at how an individual can spiritualize his or her life relative to their Neptune/Pisces/12th house archetypes. Spiritualizing one´s life in the sense of returning to the Source or working on behalf of the Source can mean many things for different people. In my understanding it means doing things that are inherently GOOD, with good intentions, for the benefit of not only ourselves but others as well. In my experience, the Source or God or whatever one desires to call this “energy” where we come from, is pure unlimited goodness, love, understanding and compassion of the highest kind imaginable. To work on behalf of this energy in my experience is to be as good and pure as we possibly can, to do the very best in whatever circumstances we find ourselves in, to live with the desire to perfect ourselves and evolve as we transmute that which is negative or selfish about ourselves.

Where Neptune is placed shows where we can give to others without any personal ulterior motives or desires, in some cases even where we can sacrifice ourselves for others or the whole. Neptune´s placement shows where and how we can unite with others and overcome our sense of separateness by simply being in the moment and letting go, by being one with others and our surroundings, by opening up and being receptive to anything and everything and by putting the self or ego in second place for the higher good of all.

So for me, to spiritualize is essentially to evolve in the direction of what is good and right. To move towards the light and eliminate darkness and ignorance (Neptune in Sag). To do this involves making the right choices for ourselves and for others every single day. Good and evil are real and exist in all of our lives but it is our choice and responsibility to know and decide which side to give our energy to. That is why we are alive in my opinion and experience, to evolve towards that loving, understanding and life giving force. Life itself with all it´s twists and turns present the perfect opportunities to spiritualize by learning how to adapt to negative/difficult circumstances by making the right choices that lead us each time closer to what Source energy is all about. Neptune is also consciousness and to spiritualize means to expand our conscious awareness to re-align with that which simply exists and is of it´s own accord in a natural way. To just be, as opposed to the way we live our lives on this planet in this day and age, full of distorted egocentric needs and desires that are leading to the destruction of many life forms here on earth and potentially even the planet itself.

In the Fifth house, Neptune can be inspired to spiritualize via one´s inherent creativity and personal self expression. The person may be inspired by music or the desire to take on certain roles like an actor does and integrate into that role with the purpose of touching the hearts of countless others. Neptune in the 5th can spiritualize via anything that involves artistic or dramatic expression. As a performing musician/DJ I myself felt the unity between all the people that shared those magical moments in which we were all simply enjoying the unity of the emotions that the music made us feel. The musician or artist can be a channel for good feelings to be shared between people. Can send out messages of unity, love and compassion and be a channel for divine feelings or messages to come thru him or herself. The performing artist may desire to heal and be healed thru such experiences as the unity is felt and cherished as something sacred and transcendental. Something that cannot truly be described with words but only thru sensation and experience of the moment as people come together and are united by sound and music. It truly does transcend cultures and religions and beliefs as the people simply feel the connection and togetherness as they experience the music which has the effect of dismantling their individual ego´s. Neptune here correlates to the collective feeling that is shared at such an event. This unity reminds people we are all one and gives them a sense of togetherness, a sense of potential and belonging that transcends personal differences.

In this sense someone with Neptune in the 5th can spiritualize and work on behalf of the Source of all things as he/she unites people and gives them a sense of belonging to something larger, even if it is only subconsciously perceived or a feeling they cannot really put into words. Neptune in the 5th may touch the hearts of the collective just by letting the Source energy flow thru him/her as a creative force that has the effect of expanding the awareness, sensations, feelings and the hearts of others.

As I write this in the coffeplace where I´m currently studying, a young man around 20 years old just came up to me and asked me some questions about my computer as he saw it was a Mac. He wanted to get into music production and was told a Mac was better so he asked me some questions. Fortunately I was able to help him with some technical information and as he spoke to me I felt this must be the Source drawing me back into the music world. I told him I wasn´t interested in playing at the moment and was done with that world but, when he left he thanked me and said for me to think about playing again. It clearly feels like Source energy sending the message that my music is only on standby and not totally over. The synchronicity of this event is astounding as he came to me as I am writing this assignment of Neptune!

On a personal egocentric level someone with Neptune in the 5th may go thru many humbling lessons until he or she consciously decides to align their will power and life purpose with Source energy. Neptune and the fifth house together have a natural difficulty in expression until the person aligns their will with higher principles and divine will. Neptune is formless and un-selfish while the fifth house is about personal creative expression and our personal life purpose. It is not until there is a conscious desire to express divine energy for the benefit of all, that the individual will truly find ultimate meaning in his or her life. This is also true for the other evolutionary levels but their awareness of Source energy and how to sense it and align with it will be much more limited. They will mostly be humbled by realizing their selfishness and sometimes ridiculous desire to be acknowledged as special. This humbling will allow them to re-align their personal will with something of collective value that extends beyond their own self interest.

Another way that Neptune in the fifth house can spiritualize is thru children, not only our own children but all children. With this placement one can have a natural empathy for children and wish to help them in some way. There are many under cared for, under educated or under nourished children in the world and someone with Neptune in the fifth may have the inherent knowledge that children are the future of mankinds destiny. They may see the inherent potential witihin children and young people and desire to serve as a channel to bring out that potential. This could be by many and any means such as teaching or having an orphanage or working in an NGO that helps children in need. The main core dynamic in my understanding is one of desiring to care for and help these young children to realize their true and highest potential. To help keep them pure and protected from some of life´s injustices and to put an end to their needless suffering. Also for some others just to bring up a child or step child could be a form of dedication and devotion where the person feels they are sacrificing their time and energy for someone else to have the best life possible. This can be a form of service to others as one helps the child realize his or her highest potential with no sense of egocentric desire whatsoever, just the desire to give to the child whatever it needs to be as healthy and happy as possible.

Another form of creative expression for the 5th house can be that of love affairs and passions of all sorts. This may include creative hobbies to simple flirting or anything we do just for fun and games. The 5th house Neptune may spiritualize it´s life by being a symbol of inspiration for others as he or she actively and passionately plays their destined role to the maximum of their creative and expressive potential. This also includes their passions as they may ignite feelings that are dormant in others or share themselves in ways that inspires others to open up naturally and simply be themselves. In matters of the heart the 5th house Neptune may spiritualize by having a huge heart that gives freely to others. They may feel special in some way and desire to share their gifts with others so they too can be inspired to find their own creativity and express it in their lives. In matters of the hear they may wish to touch others in ways that make them feel special and loved and out of the ordinary. 

Pisces in the 8th house cusp can reflect a soul who´s desire is to confront (8th house) limitations that limit a direct connection to the Source (Pisces). This placemente can reflect a soul who desires to spiritualize by way of dissolving all limiting factors that limit a direct merging with the Source. This placement can correlate to someone who desires to spiritualize thru merging with others which can in some way promote a sense of personal evolution. The person with Neptune in the 8th or related signatures may be attracted to magic rituals, shamanic rituals or any source of power/knowledge that can promote a dissolving of limitations to his/her spiritual progress. It can mean someone who desires to align with sexual energy in a sacred way and to explore those sacred principles and techniques. It can correlate to someone which takes commitments very seriously and desires to have a commited relationship with someone who is also searching for the same type of evolution towards Source energy, therefore creating a desire to find the soulmate. It may correlate to someone which desires to use their resources in a way that can benefit others or to manage the resources of others in a way that benefits the people that made the investment, or others such as in charity work.
 Neptune in the 8th house or related signatures will desire to have direct expercience of Source energy and to feel empowered by it by dissolving all subconscious insecurities and fears, that limit experiencing the Source directly. In my experience Psices on the 12th or related signatures can mean the Soul will have to make choices as to which energy to really align with, the forces of good or evil. As one is tempted (8th house) one will have to consciously choose and commit to that which is good and right. This will serve as a way of purging the Soul of desires that prevent a direct merging with the Source, as those desires create ongoing karmic lessons until there is only the desire to return home.

Cancer on the twefth house can correlate to a Soul who desires and needs to heal the emotional body and dynamics relative to their childhood, parents, home environment, emotional nurturing needs and everything to do with their self image and sense of security in the physical world as emotional beings. To heal is to come closer to Source energy, as one heals one rids the emotional body of negative emotions that prevent true perception of ultimate reality. Cancer on the 12th can correlate to a Soul who in this life will need to forgive and forget all those that hurt him/her. Will correlate to someone who has alot to dissolve on an emotional level as there may be many lifetimes of emotional suffering and pain. To come closer to the Source would be to heal the self so one is in a position to do good for others instead of desiring others to care for one´s-self. It is a position that will teach the person that emotional security can only truly be found by aligning one´s sense of security and self consistency with Source energy in some way. One with this position will only truly find security in the timeless values and principles that are beyond the scope of one finite life. One will have to turn to the divine for inner security, as in the physical world we live in there is no ultimate security since we will all have to face death some day. Cancer on the 12th house can dissolve the desire for ultimate security in the physical world as the person aligns him/herself with God or the Source as the only real way to be totally secure from within. Cancer on the 12th house can also correate with someone who can spiritualize by having as little of an ego as possible. By dissolving the ego to the point where there is nothing but what is truly necessary to complete their journey in this life, with as little personal needs or with little to nothing filtering out the Source´s light. The ego as we were taught in EA by JWG is like a lens that projects the images on a screen. These images are made of light and are distorted by the ego since the ego is not able to see the totality of reality and filters out or distorts things so that it is able to cope with reality. Cancer on the 12th or related signatures in the spiritual stage of evolution can spiritualize by dissolving as much of the ego as possible so that the personality is as aligned with the Source, what is true from a universal and timeless point of view. This will have the effect of leaving the person secure from within as he/she is aligned with truth and has as little personal security needs as possible, thus being practically free from distorted emotional needs.

 
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