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« on: Dec 17, 2014, 08:32 AM »

‘A Great Moment’: Rover Finds Clue That Mars May Harbor Life

By KENNETH CHANG
DEC. 16, 2014
NYT

SAN FRANCISCO — Life on Mars? Today? The notion may not be so far-fetched after all.

A year after reporting that NASA’s Curiosity rover had found no evidence of methane gas on Mars, all but dashing hopes that organisms might be living there now, scientists reversed themselves on Tuesday.

Curiosity has now recorded a burst of methane that lasted at least two months.

For now, scientists have just two possible explanations for the methane. One is that it is the waste product of certain living microbes.

“It is one of the few hypotheses that we can propose that we must consider as we go forward,” said John P. Grotzinger, the mission’s project scientist.

The scientists also reported that for the first time, they had confirmed the presence of carbon-based organic molecules in a rock sample. The so-called organics are not direct signs of life, past or present, but they lend weight to the possibility that Mars had the ingredients required for life, and may even still have them.

“This is really a great moment for the mission,” Dr. Grotzinger told a news conference here at the fall meeting of the American Geophysical Union.

NASA’s Curiosity rover has found evidence of lakes and streams on a warmer, wetter, habitable Mars.
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The presence of methane is significant because the gas cannot exist for long. Calculations indicate that sunlight and chemical reactions in the Martian atmosphere would break up the molecules within a few hundred years, so any methane there now must have been created recently.

It could have been created by a geological process known as serpentinization, which requires both heat and liquid water. Or it could be a product of life in the form of microbes known as methanogens, which release methane as a waste product.

Even if the explanation for the methane turns out to be geological, the hydrothermal systems would still be prime locations to search for signs of life.

Scientists have always expected that some tiny amount of methane would be found on Mars. Cosmic dust falling on the planet contains organic compounds that are broken up by ultraviolet light from the sun, producing methane.

But the new findings, which are described in detail in a paper this week in the journal Science, are a 180-degree flip from a year ago, when mission scientists said that Curiosity had found no signs of methane, placing an upper limit of 1.3 parts per billion by volume.

Since then, the scientists refined their measurements, detecting a background level of 0.7 parts per billion. That is half of what was predicted, raising another mystery that somehow methane is also being destroyed.

But in November 2013, two months after the scientists reported the absence of methane on Mars, the rover measured methane levels 10 times as high. “It was an ‘oh my gosh’ moment,” said Christopher R. Webster of the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory, the lead author of the Science paper.

The methane levels stayed high through at least the end of January. They subsequently fell, to less than one part per billion.

An earlier measurement in July had also been high, although it dropped by half a week later, and the margin of error made it unclear what was going on. Curiosity made no methane measurements between July and November 2013.

Sushil K. Atreya of the University of Michigan, a member of the science team, said it was possible that elevated methane levels lasted from July through January. “It could have been over six months,” he said, “but we don’t know that.”

Given its quick appearance and quick disappearance, the newly discovered methane was a relatively small burst, mission scientists suspect.

A decade ago, three teams of scientists reported that they had detected methane in the Martian atmosphere — two using observations from Earth, one using the European Space Agency’s Mars Express orbiter.

All of the measurements were at the edge of the instruments’ capabilities, and the methane appeared to disappear two years later. If true, that meant not only that was something creating methane on Mars, but also that something else was quickly destroying it.

Many Mars scientists decided that a simpler solution to the methane mystery was that the measurements were mistaken, a conclusion bolstered by the absence reported by the Curiosity team last year.

Now, Dr. Grotzinger said, “It’s back on the table.”

Michael J. Mumma of NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md., who led one of the teams that reported much larger methane plumes in the Mars atmosphere in 2003 based on measurements from Earth — and has found no methane since 2005 — said the new data was “pleasant” after years of doubts from critics.

The new Curiosity measurements “confirmed this startling reality that methane is being released, sporadically, and it is being destroyed quickly,” he said. “Both events are surprising.”

As for the organic molecules, they showed up in a mudstone nicknamed Cumberland that Curiosity drilled in May 2013.

Within Curiosity is a miniature chemistry laboratory that detected significant amounts of the organic molecule chlorobenzene, in much higher concentrations than had been seen in other rocks it had examined.

Scientists spent months analyzing whether the organic compounds came from Cumberland or contamination Curiosity had brought from Earth.

“You don’t want to be faked out,” Dr. Grotzinger said.

The scientists are still unsure whether Cumberland contained chlorobenzene, which is not a naturally occurring compound on Earth, or if that was the end product of chemical reactions involving other organic molecules in the rock as it was heated. But they convinced themselves that the organic carbon is Martian.

“In part, Curiosity was built to explore for organics,” Dr. Grotzinger said, “and we found them.”


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« Reply #1 on: Dec 18, 2014, 07:42 AM »

All,

This, from an EA point of view, correlates to the fact that the transiting Saturn in Scorpio is conjunct the transiting S.Node of Mars in Scorpio. Methane gas correlates to Scorpio.

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« Reply #2 on: Dec 19, 2014, 04:56 AM »

Hi Rad,

Thanks for posting this. I thought gases in general would correlate to Neptune, why is Methane connected to Scorpio?

If I recall correctly, JWG said that life on Earth was seeded from Mars. Do you know who/what seeded life here?

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« Reply #3 on: Dec 19, 2014, 08:50 AM »

Hi Rad,

Thanks for posting this. I thought gases in general would correlate to Neptune, why is Methane connected to Scorpio?

If I recall correctly, JWG said that life on Earth was seeded from Mars. Do you know who/what seeded life here?

Thank you

All the best

Hi Skywalker,

All gases, including methane, correlate to Scorpio, Pluto, and the 8th House. One of the atoms of methane is carbon which is critical to the formation via bonding of organic life where organic life itself correlates to Pluto, Scorpio and the 8th House. All forms of organic life can exist depending on the overall conditions of any given form in space: planets, comets, asteroids, etc. Thus, organic life can emanate of itself depending on the conditions of any given form in space and/ or such forms can be 'seeded' by existing forms of organic life to other forms in space by way of such forms impacting one another through collisions in which the organic life is transferred because of the collisions of the forms. Such collisions can include the penetration of the atmospheres of these forms by way of asteroids, comets, etc in which existing organic life is existing on. In this way organic life can be transferred to these forms.

Inherent to the Manifest Creation is the natural law of intelligence that manifests when the bonding action of various gases, elements, compounds, etc that all contain atoms, molecules, sub-atomic particles of various kinds, etc combine to generate organic life. Thus the natural law of intelligence is intrinsic and within all possible organic forms of life. This is then the causative law that is responsible for the evolution of all forms of organic life wherever it exists. Within the natural law of intelligence is the phenomena that we call consciousness.  Through the evolution of organic forms of life this is then why organic life forms can become 'self aware'.

Of course the Origins of all of this is The Source Of All Things. What many call God/ess which correlates to Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th House. Via the natural trinity of Cancer, the Moon, and the 4th House with Scorpio, Pluto, and the 8th House we can then see the EA symbolism of organic life forms becoming self aware through their own evolution.

In order for organic life forms to evolve the inherent intelligence within them must design strategies to survive: the polarity point of Taurus, Venus, and the 2nd House relative to Scorpio, etc. Indeed this truth was realized by Charles Darwin and is the very basis of the natural law of evolution itself. It is these core archetypal natural laws that then give rise to other natural laws like mutation and metamorphoses that manifest and exist because of the need of any given organic life form to survive.

So the forms in space which are themselves created through the natural laws of gravity generated by motion can be 'seeded' by organic life either through external forces to themselves, or they can generate these organic life forms within themselves depending on the overall conditions existing at any point in time.

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« Reply #4 on: Dec 19, 2014, 02:15 PM »

Hi Rad,

Thank you for your detailed answer. It´s interesting you mention carbon as I am currently getting to know a stone called Shungite which can be up to 98% carbon. Some say it´s over 2 billion years old and has been there in Russia since life formed on Earth. Others say it came from outer space. Apparently it is very healing, protective against EMF, anti bacterial, antioxidant and has fullerenes, which are molecules of carbon. So it makes sense that they call it the stone of life.

 Maybe you or others would be interested in it, if you like stones and crystals. From experience it seems to be very good at helping with pain and also to release negative energy/tension from the chakras/body.

Anyway I was really under the impression Neptune ruled over gases of all kinds.

Is it correct to see Mars as the flame, fuelled by Pluto the gas then? And crude oil correlates to Neptune or Pluto?

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« Reply #5 on: Dec 20, 2014, 08:34 AM »

Hi Skywalker,

"Is it correct to see Mars as the flame, fuelled by Pluto the gas then? And crude oil correlates to Neptune or Pluto?"

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Mars would correlate to the 'spark' that allows for the 'potential' of the flame that exists within the fuel that correlates to Pluto. When that spark thus produces the potential of the flame the flame, of itself, would correlate to Mars. Crude oil correlates to Pluto, Scorpio, and the 8th House.

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« Reply #6 on: Dec 21, 2014, 04:14 AM »

Hi Rad,

Did you mean to say that Mars correlates to the spark and also to the flame or was that a mistake?

I´d also like to ask about Artificial Intelligence... Does AI also have the potential to be conscious and self aware?

Thank you

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« Reply #7 on: Dec 21, 2014, 07:31 AM »

Hi Rad,

Did you mean to say that Mars correlates to the spark and also to the flame or was that a mistake?

I´d also like to ask about Artificial Intelligence... Does AI also have the potential to be conscious and self aware?

Thank you

All the best

Hi Skywalker,

Yes, Mars correlates to both the spark and the flame.

I am really not sure how to answer your question about AI. Obviously AI is not in anyway 'organic life'. Organic life does have the capacity and potential of course. Given that AI is a created and programmed intelligence by human's I would imagine it could 'mimic' a kind of self awareness just as it mimics the intelligence of those that have created it in the first place. If so, then this would mean that AI could be 'aware' that has been created by the humans that it interfaces with, aware that it is a artificial intelligence versus an organic intelligence that emanates from that which has created it in the first place.

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