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rita
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« Reply #180 on: Aug 06, 2014, 10:34 AM »


Hi Ari and group,
In reply to your questions,

NN in the 7th house in Aquarius ruler of the South Node 11th house in Gemini:

With this signature the individual has already some familiarity with the Archetype of Aquarius, it has been de-conditioning from all that prevented it in the past from discovering who it is.
The relationships it has formed and will continue to form in this life time will help it fulfill the NN intent in the 7th house. This will be done through the interchange of ideas with others who will also be of like mind, helping the individual feel it belongs somewhere. These relationships will help the individual learn to listen to the needs of others, instead of continually put itself in the front line, the other partner will some how through shock or some traumatic action show it that it is not thinking of the other, but itself first.   
This life time  the main focus will be on the relationships it creates with others and through them it will learn that it has to have balance and treat the other as an equal. When the individual will forget to take into consideration the other, confrontations and shocks will occur. The other may walk out tired of always being second best, this loss, would make the individual retreat unto itself. It would heal the wounds by returning and isolating itself in the unconscious familiarity and security of the first house South Node and ask itself why is this happening?
The creative purpose with the Sun 11th house in Gemini shows us that this individual needs to validate its ideas or what it has picked up as information in the news, and pass it on to the next person it finds it would be of interest to. As it passes on this new info it will create a reaction upon the others, that will make it realize that what it knows is shallow and not always what it seems. This creates the individual to question why others are reacting the way they do.
The individual through the relationships it forms, it learns through comparing and contrast who it is and where it stands in relation to all others. It will seek people of like minded ideas who will help it liberate itself from any conditioning that it may still hold on to, so as to continue its evolution. All this is done through the shocks it receives from the relationships it forms, reminding it to think, listen and take into account the others needs before its own. These shocks will take the individual to its old contort zone, into isolation from others so as to go within, understand so as to shed what it no longer needs. In this specific chart the ruler of the 11th house is in the 12th house in Cancer, showing us that the shocks would primarily come from the family. The family`s values, ideas and how it should or not be, came into shock with the individuals ideas, ways and detached nature of the individual since day one.
The individual will fulfill its evolutionary intent  what ever stage in its evolution it is in when it puts the others before itself and realize that its needs will be met, simply because it could objectify itself and put the others before itself.

Thank you Ari for your dedication and sorry it took so long,

Namaste
rita

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Emily
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« Reply #181 on: Aug 07, 2014, 07:45 AM »

Hi Ari Moshe,

Thank you so much for your feedback and for asking this question, I was wanting a better understanding of the Moon in this chart.

Blessings,
Emily

Why did this soul choose a Leo Moon?

The Leo Moon shows that in the life of Dr. Bach the soul knew its life purpose and was focused on fulfilling it. The soul was perhaps 1) working on gaining self-confidence in order to become full of itself in a way that propelled it to do its own special work in life, and/or 2) the soul was also working on humbling itself with regard to actualizing its purpose. (Leo Moon in the 6th, ruling Saturn in the 5th, all the Virgo)

There was a transformation of the form the life purpose was taking. The soul was a gifted and generous healer (Leo 6th), but the structure of the healing practice shifted into a new form as previously held core beliefs/societal conditioning were being outgrown and a spiritualizing was underway. (Saturn/Moon new phase, Mars (9th)/Moon disseminating square, Pluto/Mars gibbous, Virgo/Pisces Nodes)

The soul needed to be pretty full of its sense of special destiny and driven to fulfill it in order to break away from the life previously lived, facing the confrontation with the medical community and voluntarily letting go of the medical license, being that disenchanted with western medicine.

The soul in that life felt a strong desire to withdraw from the social/urban life in order to go deeper within and connect with nature and spirit. The soul also had an intense need to provide a meaningful service to society. (Moon Leo 6th semi-square Sun Libra 7th)
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ari moshe
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« Reply #182 on: Aug 07, 2014, 10:38 AM »

Hi Rita, your post regarding the question: "Since the ruler of the sn is in the 11th house clearly the "Aquarius" archetype is not new to this soul. What then is the soul learning through the north node in the 7th in Aquarius?"

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NN in the 7th house in Aquarius ruler of the South Node 11th house in Gemini:

With this signature the individual has already some familiarity with the Archetype of Aquarius, it has been de-conditioning from all that prevented it in the past from discovering who it is.

Specifically Gemini, so the theme has been about freedom from opinions and ideas taken to be fact.
 
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The relationships it has formed and will continue to form in this life time will help it fulfill the NN intent in the 7th house. This will be done through the interchange of ideas with others who will also be of like mind, helping the individual feel it belongs somewhere. These relationships will help the individual learn to listen to the needs of others, instead of continually put itself in the front line, the other partner will some how through shock or some traumatic action show it that it is not thinking of the other, but itself first.
   
This life time  the main focus will be on the relationships it creates with others and through them it will learn that it has to have balance and treat the other as an equal. When the individual will forget to take into consideration the other, confrontations and shocks will occur. The other may walk out tired of always being second best, this loss, would make the individual retreat unto itself. It would heal the wounds by returning and isolating itself in the unconscious familiarity and security of the first house South Node and ask itself why is this happening?

The creative purpose with the Sun 11th house in Gemini shows us that this individual needs to validate its ideas or what it has picked up as information in the news, and pass it on to the next person it finds it would be of interest to. As it passes on this new info it will create a reaction upon the others, that will make it realize that what it knows is shallow and not always what it seems. This creates the individual to question why others are reacting the way they do.

That might be one expression of the Sun in Gemini in the 11th. A core creative purpose for this soul is, and has been (ruler of sn) to see things as they are, and put pieces of information together to form a holistic understanding of an entire organism. Thus they have been learning to observe a field of data and see how all the pieces fit together into a whole. This can be writing, working with media, scientific facts, astrology etc. What we know is that the mind is highly developed and there is a great openness and lots of energy for thinking and creating.

The challenges with that is being bombarded in the thoughts with all kinds of information, data, facts, things to consider that it becomes like an overloaded computer with too much data to sort out. So this soul is truly learning how to become an observer of their own thoughts. Relative to the sn in the 1st, this soul can constantly be high strung with consistent thinking and adopting to different groups of people based on their need to know how to interact with all kinds of people, be sociable, be a part of the community so that they can be appreciated/ special (1st house leo). This can be a soul that observes how other humans interact, and like an alien from another planet trying on human clothing, will adopt to that behavior.

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The individual through the relationships it forms, it learns through comparing and contrast who it is and where it stands in relation to all others. It will seek people of like minded ideas who will help it liberate itself from any conditioning that it may still hold on to, so as to continue its evolution. All this is done through the shocks it receives from the relationships it forms, reminding it to think, listen and take into account the others needs before its own. These shocks will take the individual to its old contort zone, into isolation from others so as to go within, understand so as to shed what it no longer needs.

In this specific chart the ruler of the 11th house is in the 12th house in Cancer, showing us that the shocks would primarily come from the family.
The family`s values, ideas and how it should or not be, came into shock with the individuals ideas, ways and detached nature of the individual since day one.

Is this a real chart? If you sense this is ethical and healthy, I invite you to share a little bio of this soul and your estimation of their evolutionary stage. This is for the purposes of determining know what these astrological symbols actually refer to. You may also add the ruler of the nn if you'd like.

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The individual will fulfill its evolutionary intent  what ever stage in its evolution it is in when it puts the others before itself and realize that its needs will be met, simply because it could objectify itself and put the others before itself.

Everything you wrote is accurate. I want to add some more insight to this. With the Sun in the 11th in Gemini ruling the sn, there already is a very intelligent and mental orientation to life. However that orientation has been about their own self creative purpose: it has not inherently been about building relationship (nn in 7th). In the 11th house there certainly is community, groups of people, friends etc - however with it leading to the sn the question comes up: is there true friendship?

I have a friend with a similar signature. His sn is in Leo in the 1st and his Sun is in Libra in the 3rd. He's a very loving and friendly soul - and also an amazing musician. Very good ear. He doesn't come across as narcisistic, however he consistently faces a wall in relationships wherein his partners don't feel the connection and eventually break the relationship, often suddenly (Aquarius in the 7th). He's a Libra, so he's all about giving and sharing right? With the Sun in the 3rd house he's also able to adopt well and socialize with all kinds of people. Since the sn is in Leo in the 1st, the giving and sharing has to some extent been about the need to be seen, to be loved, to be adored. He's also got a Pluto in the 5th which as a bottom line is the need to be seen.

To fully embrace the nn in Aquarius in the 7th he would have to let go of attachment to being loved, adored, appreciated as that keeps him from truly opening his heart and sharing WHO he really is with others. He gives a lot (Libra Sun) and is friendly with lots of people, however the nn implies the evolutionary lesson to truly be himself, not manipulate with duplicit relationship skills so that he can be liked. Thus he is also learning how to truly listen and hear other people without it having to do with himself. It's impossible to truly hear another if there are personal unresolved desires seeping its way into the relationship.

So it can be a similar dynamic here with the chart you are working with. This soul with the Sun in Gemini in the 11th might be very friendly and sociable but ruling the sn in Leo in the 1st and Pluto being there as well, we have to wonder if there is real connection and sharing going on - or it the mental adaptability and sociability is just serving their own needs to be loved, adored etc. So that's where the nn expresses the Aquarius archetype in a new way for this soul. It's about really learning to be in relationship as oneself, and thus detached enough from personal need which enables the soul to truly listen to other people.

Please feel free to share more or ask more about any of this if you'd like.
Thank you for your beautiful continued work and contribution Rita.
With love,
Ari Moshe
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rita
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« Reply #183 on: Aug 08, 2014, 06:38 AM »

Hi Ari,
Thank you for the corrections and yes, the chart exists. It is my chart that i took as an example for the work. I would not use someone else´s chart, so the ethics question would never be a problem.
Thank you again for your kind words
namaste
rita
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ari moshe
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« Reply #184 on: Aug 08, 2014, 11:23 AM »

Hi Emily,

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Why did this soul choose a Leo Moon?

The Leo Moon shows that in the life of Dr. Bach the soul knew its life purpose and was focused on fulfilling it. The soul was perhaps 1) working on gaining self-confidence in order to become full of itself in a way that propelled it to do its own special work in life, and/or 2) the soul was also working on humbling itself with regard to actualizing its purpose. (Leo Moon in the 6th, ruling Saturn in the 5th, all the Virgo)

There was a transformation of the form the life purpose was taking. The soul was a gifted and generous healer (Leo 6th), but the structure of the healing practice shifted into a new form as previously held core beliefs/societal conditioning were being outgrown and a spiritualizing was underway. (Saturn/Moon new phase, Mars (9th)/Moon disseminating square, Pluto/Mars gibbous, Virgo/Pisces Nodes)

The soul needed to be pretty full of its sense of special destiny and driven to fulfill it in order to break away from the life previously lived, facing the confrontation with the medical community and voluntarily letting go of the medical license, being that disenchanted with western medicine.

The soul in that life felt a strong desire to withdraw from the social/urban life in order to go deeper within and connect with nature and spirit. The soul also had an intense need to provide a meaningful service to society. (Moon Leo 6th semi-square Sun Libra 7th)

Thanks for that analysis. Everything you wrote makes sense to me. He definitely needed to develop lot of trust in himself in order to take the bold steps that he took.

Some more observations about the Moon: The Moon, as well as the 6th house, is ruled by the Sun which is a part of that stellium with Merucry Uranus and Jupiter in the 7th: liberation from other people's projections, beliefs, ideas, points of views etc. A part of life's purpose (Sun) was focused around listening to others from a higher, more intelligent and holistic view point, and freeing himself from the need to be accepted and understood by others.

The Moon reflects how the soul pictures himself from within: his own self image. In this case Leo in the 6th implies a strong sense of purpose and need to develop his work according to calling of his purpose. This ego structure was the needed self orientation that really allowed him to follow the path of his destiny; to confidently move forward step by step with self respect and dignity no matter what other people thought about it.

With love,
Ari Moshe

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