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« Reply #270 on: Mar 19, 2012, 12:18 AM »

Hi Rad,

I may have to miss this one too.

Thanks,
Linda
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« Reply #271 on: Mar 20, 2012, 10:01 AM »

Hi Rad,

Count me in too..grateful for your continued presence and guidance..

Goddess Bless,
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« Reply #272 on: Mar 20, 2012, 03:54 PM »

Hi Rad and group,

I am also grateful for your presence, Rad, and for carrying on with this thread.  I had been hoping there would be a more extended discussion of Queen Elizabeth so I could get a shorter post in and then do a deeper one later.  At this point I am aware of my tendency to be thinking about the charts for too long considering the amount of time I have for writing and so I'm not making it in before you move on to the next chart. So, I cannot commit to posting on Princess Diana but I will be following along. If I can make the time to write something I will chime in.  I also may use this time to navigate more around the rest of the EA board as there looks to be  a lot of interesting discussions happening at the moment.  I was just finishing up a class with some students today who expressed gratitude to me for being their teacher and so I would also like to thank you for taking the time to guide us through so many compelling astrological investigations. peace and love, Gray
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« Reply #273 on: Mar 21, 2012, 09:54 AM »

Hi Group,

Ok, let's go ahead and do an EA analysis of Princess Diana. And let's do it in the EA way where we start with her natal Pluto, the S.Node of the Moon, and the location of it's planetary ruler, then Pluto's polarity point, the N.Node, and the location of it's planetary ruler. Of course the aspects to these points should be taken into consideration. Within this framework please feel free to add any additional linkages to it by way of asteroids, the planetary nodes, etc.

To me her EA state is right on the cusp of the 3rd Stage consensus and the 1st Stage Individuated.

Feel free to ask me any questions you may have.

Let's have a go of it !

God Bless, Rad

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                                                            Diana, Princess of Wales
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Full name
Diana Frances[N 1]

House
House of Windsor
House of Spencer (Noble family by birth)

Father   John Spencer, 8th Earl Spencer

Mother   Frances Shand Kydd

Born   1 July 1961
Park House, Sandringham, Norfolk

Died   31 August 1997 (aged 36)
Pitié-Salpêtrière Hospital, in Paris, France

Burial   6 September 1997
Althorp, Northamptonshire

Religion   Anglican (Church of England)

Diana, Princess of Wales (Diana Frances;[N 1] née Spencer; 1 July 1961 – 31 August 1997) was the first wife of Charles, Prince of Wales, whom she married on 29 July 1981. She was also well known for her fund-raising work for international charities, and an eminent celebrity of the late 20th century. Her wedding to Charles, heir to the British throne and those of the 16 Commonwealth realms, was held at St Paul's Cathedral and seen by a global television audience of over 750 million. While married she bore the courtesy titles Princess of Wales, Duchess of Cornwall, Duchess of Rothesay, Countess of Chester and Baroness of Renfrew. The marriage produced two sons, the princes William and Harry,[2] currently second and third in line to the throne.

Diana was born into an aristocratic English family with royal ancestry and became a public figure with the announcement of her engagement to Prince Charles. Diana also received recognition for her charity work and for her support of the International Campaign to Ban Landmines. From 1989, she was the president of Great Ormond Street Hospital for Children, in addition to dozens of other charities. She remained the object of worldwide media scrutiny during and after her marriage, which ended in divorce on 28 August 1996. Media attention and public mourning were great after her death in a car crash in Paris on 31 August 1997.

[edit] Early life
 
Diana was born in the late afternoon on 1 July 1961, in Sandringham, Norfolk.[3][4] She was the fourth of five children of the Viscount and Viscountess Althorp (née Frances Roche, later Shand Kydd).[3] The Spencer family was hoping for a male heir to carry on the Spencer title (their third child, a boy, died soon after birth).[4][5] The Spencer family is one of Great Britain's oldest and most important families, closely allied with the royal family for several generations.[6] As the family was expecting a boy, no name was chosen for a week, until they settled on Diana Frances, after a Spencer ancestress and her mother.[4] Diana has three siblings: Sarah, Jane, and Charles;[3][5] and was baptised at Sandringham church; her younger brother, Charles, was baptised at Westminster Abbey with Elizabeth II as principal godparent.[7] Diana also had an infant brother, John, who died a year before she was born.[5] According to Andrew Morton's biography of Diana, the infant John Spencer was so deformed and sick he only survived 10 hours after his birth.[4] The desire for an heir added strain to the Spencers' marriage, and Lady Althorp was reportedly sent to Harley Street clinics in London to determine the cause of the "problem".[4] The experience was described as "humiliating" by Charles Spencer, the current earl: "It was a dreadful time for my parents and probably the root of their divorce because I don't think they ever got over it."[7] Diana grew up in Park House, which was situated near to the Sandringham estate.[5]

Diana was only seven years old when her parents were separated.[8] Her estranged mother, Frances, had an affair with Peter Shand Kydd.[5] In Morton's book, he describes Diana's remembrance of Lord Althorp loading suitcases in the car and Frances crunching across the gravel forecourt and driving away through the gates of Park House.[4] Diana lived with Frances in London during her parents' separation, but during the Christmas holidays by the end of the year, Lord Althorp refused to let Frances to return with Diana to London. Shortly afterwards, Lord Althorp eventually won custody of Diana with support from his mother-in-law, Ruth Roche, Baroness Fermoy.[3] Diana was first educated at Riddlesworth Hall near Diss, Norfolk, and later attended boarding school at The New School at West Heath,[3] in Sevenoaks, Kent. In 1973, Lord Althorp began a relationship with Raine, Countess of Dartmouth, the only daughter of Alexander McCorquodale and Barbara Cartland.[9] Diana received the title of Lady after her father inherited the title of Earl Spencer on 9 June 1975. Lord Spencer and Lady Dartmouth were married at Caxton Hall, London on 14 July 1976. As Countess Spencer, Raine was unpopular with Diana.[5] Diana was often noted for her shyness while growing up, but she did take an interest in both music and dancing. She also had a great interest in children. After attending finishing school at the Institut Alpin Videmanette in Switzerland, she moved to London. She began working with children, eventually becoming a nursery teacher at the Young England School.[3] Diana had apparently played with Princes Andrew and Edward as a child while her family rented Park House, a property owned by Elizabeth II and situated on the Sandringham Estate.[3][10]

[edit] Education

In 1968, Diana was sent to Riddlesworth Hall, an all-girls boarding school.[11] While she was young, she attended a local public school. She did not shine academically, and was moved to West Heath Girls' School (later reorganised as The New School at West Heath) in Sevenoaks, Kent, where she was regarded as a poor student, having attempted and failed all of her O-levels twice.[11] However, she showed a particular talent for music as an accomplished pianist.[12] Her outstanding community spirit was recognised with an award from West Heath. In 1977, she left West Heath and briefly attended Institut Alpin Videmanette, a finishing school in Rougemont, Switzerland. At about that time, she first met her future husband, who was then in a relationship with her older sister, Sarah. Diana also excelled in swimming and diving, and longed to be a professional ballerina with the Royal Ballet. She studied ballet for a time, but then grew too tall for the profession.

Diana moved to London in 1978, living in her mother's flat, as her mother then spent most of the year in Scotland. Soon afterwards, an apartment was purchased for £50,000 as an 18th birthday present, at Coleherne Court in Earls Court. She lived there until 1981 with three flatmates. In London, she took an advanced cooking course at her mother's suggestion, although she never became an adroit cook, and worked as a dance instructor for youth, until a skiing accident caused her to miss three months of work. She then found employment as a playgroup (pre-preschool) assistant, did some cleaning work for her sister Sarah and several of her friends, and worked as a hostess at parties. Diana also spent time working as a nanny for an American family living in London.[13]

[edit] Marriage to the Prince of Wales
 
The Prince of Wales (Prince Charles) had previously been linked to Lady Diana's elder sister Lady Sarah, and in his early thirties he was under increasing pressure to marry. The Prince of Wales had known Lady Diana for several years, but he first took a serious interest in her as a potential bride during the summer of 1980, when they were guests at a country weekend, where she watched him play polo. The relationship developed as he invited her for a sailing weekend to Cowes aboard the royal yacht Britannia, followed by an invitation to Balmoral (the Royal Family's Scottish residence) to meet his family. Lady Diana was well received by Elizabeth II, by The Duke of Edinburgh, and by Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother. The couple subsequently courted in London. The prince proposed on 6 February 1981, and Lady Diana accepted, but their engagement was kept secret for the next few weeks.[14]

[edit] Engagement and wedding
 
Their engagement became official on 24 February 1981, after Lady Diana selected a large £30,000 ring (£94,800 in today's terms) consisting of 14 diamonds surrounding a sapphire, similar to her mother's engagement ring.[15] The ring was made by the then Crown jewellers Garrard but, unusually for a member of the Royal Family, the ring was not unique and was, at the time, featured in Garrard's jewellery collection. The ring later became, in 2010, the engagement ring of Catherine Middleton (now The Duchess of Cambridge, wife of Diana's elder son Prince William).[16]

Twenty-year-old Diana became The Princess of Wales when she married The Prince of Wales on 29 July 1981 at St Paul's Cathedral, which offered more seating than Westminster Abbey, generally used for royal nuptials. It was widely billed as a "fairytale wedding", watched by a global television audience of 750 million while 600,000 people lined the streets to catch a glimpse of Diana en route to the ceremony.[15][17] At the altar Diana accidentally reversed the order of Charles's first two names, saying "Philip Charles" Arthur George instead.[18] She did not say that she would "obey" him; that traditional vow was left out at the couple's request, which caused some comment at the time.[19] Diana wore a dress valued at £9000 with a 25-foot (8-metre) train.[20]

[edit] Children

On 5 November 1981, the Princess' first pregnancy was officially announced, and she frankly discussed her pregnancy with members of the press corps.[21] After Diana fell down a staircase at Sandringham in January 1982, 12 weeks into her first pregnancy, the royal gynaecologist Sir George Pinker was summoned from London. He found that although she had suffered severe bruising, the foetus was uninjured.[22] In the private Lindo Wing of St Mary's Hospital in Paddington, London on 21 June 1982, under the care of Pinker,[22] the Princess gave natural birth to her and the Prince's first son and heir, William Arthur Philip Louis.[23] Amidst some media criticism, she decided to take William, still a baby, on her first major tours of Australia and New Zealand, but the decision was popularly applauded. By her own admission, the Princess of Wales had not initially intended to take William until it was suggested by Malcolm Fraser, the Australian prime minister.[24]

A second son, Henry Charles Albert David, was born two years after William, on 15 September 1984.[25] The Princess asserted she and the Prince were closest during her pregnancy with "Harry" (as the younger prince has always been known). She was aware their second child was a boy, but did not share the knowledge with anyone else, including the Prince of Wales.[26] Even her harshest critics agree that the Princess of Wales was a devoted, imaginative and demonstrative mother.[27] She rarely deferred to the Prince or to the Royal Family, and was often intransigent when it came to the children. She chose their first given names, dismissed a royal family nanny and engaged one of her own choosing, selected their schools and clothing, planned their outings and took them to school herself as often as her schedule permitted. She also negotiated her public duties around their timetables.[27]

[edit] Charity work
 
Diana, Princess of Wales meeting with Sri Chinmoy, May 1997 at her Kensington Palace apartments
Although in 1983 she confided in the then-Premier of Newfoundland, Brian Peckford, "I am finding it very difficult to cope with the pressures of being Princess of Wales, but I am learning to cope,"[28] from the mid-1980s, the Princess of Wales became increasingly associated with numerous charities. As Princess of Wales she was expected to regularly make public appearances to hospitals, schools and other facilities, in the 20th century model of royal patronage. The Princess developed an intense interest in serious illnesses and health-related matters outside the purview of traditional royal involvement, including AIDS and leprosy. In addition, she was the patroness of charities and organisations working with the homeless, youth, drug addicts and the elderly. From 1989, she was President of Great Ormond Street Hospital for Children. The day after her divorce, she announced her resignation from over 100 charities to spend more time with the remaining six.[29] During her final year, Diana lent highly visible support to the International Campaign to Ban Landmines, a campaign won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1997, only a few months after her death.[30]
[edit]

 Problems and separation

During the early 1990s, the marriage of the Prince and Princess of Wales fell apart, an event at first suppressed, then sensationalised, by the world media. Both the Prince and Princess allegedly spoke to the press through friends, each blaming the other for the marriage's demise.

The chronology of the break-up[31] identifies reported difficulties between the Prince and Princess as early as 1985. The Princess of Wales began an affair with Major James Hewitt, and the Prince of Wales returned to his former girlfriend, Camilla Shand (now The Duchess of Cornwall, who had become Mrs Andrew Parker-Bowles). These affairs were exposed in May 1992 with the publication of Diana: Her True Story, by Andrew Morton. The book, which also laid bare the Princess' allegedly suicidal unhappiness, caused a media storm. This publication was followed during 1992 and 1993 by leaked tapes of telephone conversations which negatively reflected on both the royal antagonists. Transcripts of taped intimate conversations between the Princess and James Gilbey were published by the Sun newspaper in Britain in August 1992. The article's title, "Squidgygate", referenced Gilbey's affectionate nickname for Diana. The next to surface, in November 1992, were the leaked "Camillagate" tapes, intimate exchanges between the Prince of Wales and Camilla, published in Today and the Mirror newspapers. In the meantime, rumours had begun to surface about the Princess of Wales' relationship with James Hewitt, her former riding instructor. These would be brought into the open by the publication in 1994 of Princess in Love.

In December 1992, Prime Minister John Major announced the Wales' "amicable separation" to the House of Commons,[32] and the full Camillagate transcript was published a month later in the newspapers, in January 1993. On 3 December 1993, the Princess of Wales announced her withdrawal from public life.[33] The Prince of Wales sought public understanding via a televised interview with Jonathan Dimbleby on 29 June 1994. In this he confirmed his own extramarital affair with Camilla Parker-Bowles, saying that he had only rekindled their association in 1986, after his marriage to the Princess had "irretrievably broken down".[34][35] While she blamed Camilla Parker-Bowles for her marital troubles due to her previous relationship with the Prince, the Princess at some point began to believe he had other affairs. In October 1993, she wrote to a friend that she believed her husband was now in love with Tiggy Legge-Bourke and wanted to marry her.[36] Legge-Bourke had been hired by the Prince as a young companion for his sons while they were in his care, and the Princess was extremely resentful of Legge-Bourke and her relationship with the young princes.

[edit] Divorce

The Princess of Wales was interviewed for the BBC current affairs show Panorama[37] by journalist Martin Bashir; the interview was broadcast on 20 November 1995. In it, the Princess said of her relationship with Hewitt, "Yes, I adored him." Of Camilla, she claimed "There were three of us in this marriage." For herself, she said, "I'd like to be a queen of people's hearts." On the Prince of Wales' suitability for kingship, she said, "Because I know the character I would think that the top job, as I call it, would bring enormous limitations to him, and I don't know whether he could adapt to that."[38]
In December 1995, the Queen asked the Prince and Princess of Wales for "an early divorce", as a direct result of the Princess' Panorama interview.[39] This followed shortly after the Princess' accusation that Tiggy Legge-Bourke had aborted the Prince's child, after which Legge-Bourke instructed Peter Carter-Ruck to demand an apology.[39] Two days before this story broke, Diana's secretary Patrick Jephson resigned, later writing that the Princess had "exulted in accusing Legge-Bourke of having had an abortion".[40]

On 20 December 1995, Buckingham Palace publicly announced the Queen had sent letters to the Prince and Princess of Wales advising them to divorce. The Queen's move was backed by the Prime Minister and by senior Privy Counsellors, and, according to the BBC, was decided after two weeks of talks.[41] The Prince immediately agreed with the suggestion. In February, the Princess announced her agreement after negotiations with the Prince and representatives of the Queen, irritating Buckingham Palace by issuing her own announcement of a divorce agreement and its terms. The divorce was finalised on 28 August 1996.[33] Diana received a lump sum settlement of around £17 million along with a clause standard in royal divorces preventing her from discussing the details.[42]

Days before the decree absolute of divorce, Letters Patent were issued with general rules to regulate royal titles after divorce. In accordance, as she was no longer married to the Prince of Wales, Diana lost the style Her Royal Highness and instead was styled Diana, Princess of Wales.[N 2] Buckingham Palace issued a press release on the day of the decree absolute of divorce was issued, announcing Diana's change of title, but made it clear Diana continued to be a British princess. Almost a year before, according to Tina Brown, The Duke of Edinburgh had warned the Princess of Wales, "If you don't behave, my girl, we'll take your title away." The Princess is said to have replied: "My title is a lot older than yours, Philip".[43]

Buckingham Palace stated Diana was still a member of the Royal Family, as she was the mother of the second- and third-in-line to the throne. This was confirmed by the Deputy Coroner of the Queen's Household, Baroness Butler-Sloss, after a pre-hearing on 8 January 2007: "I am satisfied that at her death, Diana, Princess of Wales continued to be considered as a member of the Royal Household."[44] This appears to have been confirmed in the High Court judicial review matter of Al Fayed & Ors v Butler-Sloss.[45] In that case, three High Court judges accepted submissions that the "very name ‘Coroner to the Queen's Household’ gave the appearance of partiality in the context of inquests into the deaths of two people, one of whom was a member of the Family and the other was not."[45]

[edit] Personal life after divorce
 
The Princess of Wales on a royal visit for the official opening of the community centre on Whitehall Road, Bristol in May 1987. After the divorce, Diana retained her double apartment on the north side of Kensington Palace, which she had shared with the Prince of Wales since the first year of their marriage, and it remained her home until her death.

Diana dated the respected heart surgeon Hasnat Khan, from Jhelum, Pakistan, who was called "the love of her life" after her death by many of her closest friends,[46] for almost two years, before Khan ended the relationship.[47][48] Khan was intensely private and the relationship was conducted in secrecy, with Diana lying to members of the press who questioned her about it. Khan was from a traditional Pakistani family who expected him to marry from a related Muslim clan, and their differences, which were not just religious, became too much for Khan. According to Khan's testimonial at the inquest for her death, it was Diana herself, not Khan, who ended their relationship in a late-night meeting in Hyde Park, which adjoins the grounds of Kensington Palace, in June 1997.

Within a month Diana had begun seeing Dodi Fayed, son of her host that summer, Mohamed Al-Fayed. Diana had considered taking her sons that summer on a holiday to the Hamptons on Long Island, New York, but security officials had prevented it. After deciding against a trip to Thailand, she accepted Fayed's invitation to join his family in the south of France, where his compound and large security detail would not cause concern to the Royal Protection squad. Mohamed Al-Fayed bought a multi-million pound yacht, the Jonikal, a 60-metre yacht on which to entertain Diana and her sons.

[edit] Landmines
In January 1997, pictures of Diana touring an Angolan minefield in a ballistic helmet and flak jacket were seen worldwide. It was during this campaign that some accused her of meddling in politics and declared her a 'loose cannon'.[49] In August 1997, just days before her death, she visited Bosnia with Jerry White and Ken Rutherford of the Landmine Survivors Network.[50] Her interest in landmines was focused on the injuries they create, often to children, long after a conflict is over.

She is believed to have influenced the signing, though only after her death, of the Ottawa Treaty, which created an international ban on the use of anti-personnel landmines.[51] Introducing the Second Reading of the Landmines Bill 1998 to the British House of Commons, the Foreign Secretary, Robin Cook, paid tribute to Diana's work on landmines:

All Honourable Members will be aware from their postbags of the immense contribution made by Diana, Princess of Wales to bringing home to many of our constituents the human costs of landmines. The best way in which to record our appreciation of her work, and the work of NGOs that have campaigned against landmines, is to pass the Bill, and to pave the way towards a global ban on landmines.[52]
The United Nations appealed to the nations which produced and stockpiled the largest numbers of landmines (United States, China, India, North Korea, Pakistan, and Russia) to sign the Ottawa Treaty forbidding their production and use, for which Diana had campaigned. Carol Bellamy, Executive Director of the United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF), said that landmines remained "a deadly attraction for children, whose innate curiosity and need for play often lure them directly into harm's way".[53]

[edit] Death
Main article: Death of Diana, Princess of Wales
On 31 August 1997, Diana was fatally injured in a car crash in the Pont de l'Alma road tunnel in Paris, which also caused the death of her boyfriend, Dodi Fayed and their driver, Henri Paul, acting security manager of the Hôtel Ritz Paris. Millions of people watched her funeral.[54]



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« Reply #274 on: Mar 22, 2012, 07:54 AM »

Hi Ellen,

Yes a stationing anything, planet or node, is a magnifying force.

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« Reply #275 on: Mar 23, 2012, 06:09 AM »

Hi Rad,
I have 2 questions, please
What means that a stationing is a magnifying force regarding the nodes?

Is there something basic we must find in two individual’s charts in order to see if they could be the same soul?
Thanks so much
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« Reply #276 on: Mar 23, 2012, 07:34 AM »

Hi Mirta,

Hi Rad,
I have 2 questions, please
What means that a stationing is a magnifying force regarding the nodes ?

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If I am looking at an image with my eyes that I then take a magnifying glass to look at that same image that image is now much more concentrated and detailed. In the same way the Nodes that are not retrograde are more concentrated within the consciousness of the Soul. The 'grip' or pull of the past is less when the Nodes are not retrograde. The focus of the Soul is much more concentrated into the 'moment' of the current life. As such the Soul is able to make choices that reflect it's evolutionary future easier than when the Nodes are retrograde.

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Is there something basic we must find in two individual’s charts in order to see if they could be the same soul?

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No.

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« Reply #277 on: Mar 28, 2012, 10:05 AM »

hi rad and all..
I apologize...but I need to bow out of the Princess D assignment as there is a bit too much going on in life right now...however I will be reading everyone's work...and plan on resuming as soon as possible.. thank you rad for being here as ever..for your continued support and guidance..
peace,
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« Reply #278 on: Mar 29, 2012, 11:31 AM »

Hi Rad and Group
Although I enthusiastic began with the analysis of Diana’s chart when you proposed it, I had to leave it because of much work. I am now resuming it but I will not be able to post until next week, I am not sure about the day.
Sorry for the delay. I wanted at least to let you know that I am in the process of doing it.
Thanks so much
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« Reply #279 on: Apr 07, 2012, 02:03 PM »

Hi Rad,
I apologize for failing to post this week as I said. My health was not good and I had to stop doing all. I hope next week it will be possible.
Thanks for your tolerance.
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« Reply #280 on: Apr 15, 2012, 07:36 AM »

Hi Rad,
I am going to post tomorrow monday.Thank you so much
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« Reply #281 on: Apr 16, 2012, 11:53 AM »

HI Rad and All

Some observations about Diana Spencer’s chart and life:
Core dynamic: Pluto in 8th house in Virgo conjunct Mars (balsamic), and NN in Leo (there is not PP); SN in 2nd house in Aquarius conjunct Moon, SN ruler Uranus conjunct NN; Pluto and NN rulers in 7th house in Cancer.

Pluto in 8th house in Virgo conjunct NN:
After a long cycle (seven primary lives at least) in which the Soul we knew as Diana has been trying to face power and limitations – personal and mundane power – the cycle related to that evolutionary intention is now culminating. After having actualized a large range of desires related to it, the Soul brings the purpose of reliving some of them with the goal of deeply overcome social conditionings, separative and egocentric desires and at the same time acknowledging its power from a more individuated point of view and connecting with the timeless, with humanitarian and service values.
The Soul is finishing the understanding of causes of its power and powerlessness facing powerlessness in relationships in the sense of actualizing individual  desires that are mostly projections and related to egocentric desires; thus acknowledging its power regarding the possibility of meeting its own needs aiming to live equality relationships based on a overabundance, of the desire of giving and sharing (Pluto Mars in 8th house conjunct NN in Leo opposite Moon, SN  and Chiron which is trine Sun in Cancer in 7th house; SN Mars in Libra,SN Venus in 8th house Leo conjunct Uranus; Sun Mercury  conjunct Lilith, conjunct NN Venus in Cancer in 7th house, R.L. in Cancer in 7th house conjunct Psyche and NN Pluto)
As Diana the Soul has also been trying to improve itself , and  to discern issues related to guilt, objectifying its own responsibility for violations to Natural Law, differentiating them from guilt  learned from consensus - based on not having accepted established gender and power roles -  and then introjected, which produced deep wounds in its sensitivity, in physical and subtle bodies.(Pluto Mars in Virgo in 8th house semisquare Sun Mercury in 7th house, opposite Moon conjunct SN in Aquarius and Chiron in Pisces in 2nd house ).
The natural guilt is related to trauma created for power abuses and/or violence in exercise of power;  and also to evasion in some of these roles in order to obtain personal autonomy or to exert a social function (Saturn inconjunct Uranus, NN and Mars which is conjunct Pluto in  8th house; Neptune, Chiron’s ruler, in 10th house, square Jupiter in Aquarius, Ascendant ruler, in a NP conjunction to Saturn; opposition Ceres in 4th and Vesta in 5th house conjunct DML; quintile NN; sesquisquare Juno in Pisces and biquintil R.L.)
This Neptune RX is now being relived in a superior octave as service.
Objectivity, independence and autonomy has already been established - ” I like to be a free spirit. Some don't like that, but that's the way I am” - now she is affirming and culminating it. (SN in 2nd house Aquarius, ruler conjunct NN and Pluto)

With Pluto and NN rulers in 7th house Cancer the current purpose is commitment and altruistic power attained by creative actualization in relationship’s realm, accepting vulnerability, privileging emotions and the need to give love. This is also reflected in RL in 7th house in Cancer conjunct Psyche and Pluto’s NN, sextile Venus, inconjunct Moon and SN in 2nd house Aquarius, opposite Saturn in Cap in 1st house.  
Power issues have been experienced since long in order to evolve by understanding power itself as well as the soul’s relation to it, and the causes of its way of relating. The Soul has exerted power and experienced powerlessness, rooted in the Soul’s limitations and its need to merge with other powers, and also in its shadowy ways of living it.
This shadow was mostly experienced through projections, be it attributing to other its own reasons, be it by the need to facing other’s distorted manifestations of power in order to understand through karmic repercussions and wounds. This happened in the past and was also relived as Diana in her marriage and relationships with the royal family. (Pluto in 8th house balsamic conjunct Mars conjunct NN conjunct SN ruler Uranus, Lucifer in 8th house Leo opposite Saturn in Cap in 1st house and conjunct R.L. in 7th house [square Neptune in Scorpio in 11th house in GT], Chiron opposite Pluto and Mars).
Shadow manifested also by exerting power as force over others who didn’t accept the Soul’s rules and conditions, sometimes abusing power and using violence that created  personal and collective trauma for which the Soul carries natural guilt. (Saturn in Cap in 1st house conjunct SN Pluto and Saturn inconjunct Mars conjunct Pluto opposite SN ruler Uranus, all in 8th house). This abuse of power or persecutions could also have been for religious motives or as a religious leader (Saturn conjunct Jupiter square Neptune in Scorpio in 10th house ruled by Pluto in 8th house opposite Chiron).
The merging with other’s power also had its natural and enlightened way as well as some shadowy modes or intentions.(Pluto in Virgo sextile Neptune inconjunct Jupiter in Aquarius NP conjunct Saturn 7 degrees separative).  
In the lifetime as Diana the Soul is reliving many of these facets in order to understand and heal the wounds as well as trying to repair mistakes and faults. The Soul intended to re-orientate those conditions to a new pattern of being but always operating in the same area of metamorphic evolution, understanding the causes, and emerging from patriarchal consensus and its forms of power especially regarding relationships and women. (Pluto conjunct NN,SN ruler conjunct NN, Pluto and NN  rulers in 7th house in Cancer that hosts also NN  Pluto, Saturn and Jupiter conjunct R.L., NN Venus conjunct Lilith)
In the long period since the original evolutionary intent in the NP Pluto conjunct Mars the Soul has lived different experiences creating internal and external confrontations and crises in order to transform and eliminate barriers and desires that prevented direct union with the Source. Physical, emotional, intellectual and spiritual or religious confrontations led to evolution, in this case to individuated state, and allowed her to have a deep self-understanding.
The Soul had a deep desire to understand the point of all situations and of its own dynamic, the causes of its behavior, problems, fears and searches.
However, learned guilt and masochism may be an obstacle to objectivity, as well as projections and a kind of blind spot regarding its dark sides need still be acknowledged and transformed. (Pluto Mars in Virgo, Uranus ruler Moon conjunct SN in Aquarius, Chiron opposition Pluto)  
Anyway,  lessons of service to society and to other individuals in a committed way were learned in prior and current lives, as well as personal humility and discernment (Pluto Mars in Virgo in 8th house, ruler Mercury in 7th house, SN Mercury in 8th house).
Personal desires have been sacrificed in order to met society’s needs, in a caring although individual, non conventional ways, taking in consideration group’s needs and union with the All (Mercury trine Neptune, SN in Aquarius, Pluto ruler 11th house), but also against  Natural Laws becoming responsible for collective trauma (Mercury in Cancer ruled by Moon in 2nd house Aquarius conjunct SN, trine Neptune, SN in Aquarius; Pluto ruler 11th house; Mercury inconjunct Jupiter in Aquarius conjunct Saturn in 1st, Pluto square SN Uranus in Sag in 12th house.

SN in 2nd house in Aquarius conjunct Moon and Chiron in Pisces: In former lives the Soul has faced it limitations, power and powerlessness learning to self sustain in its inner resources, relying in its Self as a resource.
It has actualized Pluto intentions of self improvement, power and service objectifying its feeling’s nature and trying to exert power in a humanitarian and serving way on behalf of society (Neptune in 10th house Scorpio trine SN). However, power abuses and violence created trauma that the Soul is trying to understand objectifying the causes, accepting responsibility and atoning for it. (Uranus, ruler SN is in 8th house conjunct NN, Mars and Pluto and inconjunct    
Saturn).
The Soul is culminating the process of understanding the causes from within and stopping to project unresolved anger at others perceived as the source of its limitations.

VALUES: Saturn, ruler of 2nd house is NP conjunct Jupiter in Aquarius and LQP square Midheaven, reflecting a new cycle in which the crisis in consciousness relative to society’s consensus patriarchal values is leading to a new value and belief system, more individuated and aligned with Natural Law.
This is not completely new, Venus in Taurus in 5th house is squaring the Nodes, in FQP trine to Saturn; its FP inconjunction to Midheaven, biseptile Pluto and balsamic semisquare Sun reflects that social humility and humiliation intends to accelerate the mutation and affirm a special destiny of a highly individualized nature.
Venus-Mars Phase is Disseminating, another hint that the Soul has learned to understand the nature of the social system and is able to actualize and integrate its value system in society that is receptive to it. In Diana’s life this was actualized in relation to people, society in general, who was receptive to her refreshing way of living and relating to monarchy. It was said that she was  both an insider and an outsider. (Venus ruler MC, trine Saturn square Uranus in 8th house).

However, it was not possible for her to attract and secure the type of person she desired and live a relationship in which her core desires and needs were met. This difficulty has various causes: Regarding the Mars-Venus phase, the Disseminating square was in fact preparing the Soul for another key evolutionary development creating a crisis in consciousness that will lead to a repolarization in the LQP. Again, the cause of the crisis is the evolutionary need to move away from society’s values and moralities, rebelling against them in order to expand consciousness toward the universal and the timeless via the individuation.
With Venus in Taurus she had internalized what she needed in order to have a sense of meaning in her life, she needed a common thread between her value system and that of her partner, giving up what hold meaning or value for her  - love and reliance – signified loss of her sense of purpose, of her sense of self value.
That’s why even when she described herself as a strong woman:  - “ They see me as a threat of some kind, and I'm here to do good: I'm not a destructive person.
Bashir: Why do they see you as a threat?
Diana: I think every strong woman in history has had to walk down a similar path, and I think it's the strength that causes the confusion and the fear. ” - she also referred low self esteem talking about bulimia that manifested when her husband had a relationship with Camilla.
Venus biseptile Pluto reflects a very special destiny of a highly individualized nature, with the desire to create a personal reality reflecting the new purpose; key fated events point the way to this special destiny. Three key events focused on that biseptile:
 At the moment of her marriage with Prince Charles Pluto in NP conjunction Midheaven was inconjunct her Venus, Uranus in opposition and Chiron conjunct Venus, that was biseptile its natal position, while transiting Venus was balsamic conjunction Pluto.
First Son: Venus conjunct Chiron conjunct natal Venus; Pluto inconjunct Venus and trine Moon and SN (resolution node),Pluto conjunct MH (social function: giving a heir to monarchy)and NN septile Pluto.
Divorce: Sun conjunct natal Pluto, Chiron opposite Venus, transiting NN and Neptune in a Grand Trine to Venus.
With Mars in Virgo in 8th house there was a masochistic approach to committed relationships based on learned guilt originated in prior affirmation of independence, autonomy and rebellion against patriarchal role conditionings; but also a desire to humiliate and purify itself from prior narcissistic ways of relating (Mars opposite SN conjunct Moon in Aquarius in 2nd house, Mars inconjunct Juno conjunct Pallas in Pisces, square Venus in 5th house; Mars balsamic conjunct Pluto, Disseminating square Venus in 5th house in skipped steps with NN in Leo).

VENUS SKIPPED STEPS
Venus in Taurus, SN Venus in Leo in 8th house conjunct Uranus, NN Venus in 7th house Cancer conjunct Lilith and Sun.
SN Venus in Leo in 8th house conjunct Uranus and opposite SN reflects a Soul who is experiencing a transition from a narcissistic identification with power in previous lifetimes, and the need to relive the trauma created in order to understand and objectify the causes of trauma in order to attain self reliance and self actualization by way of accepting responsibility and critically reviewing the social role by living some social humiliation, as Charles’s relationship with Camilla. (Venus trine Saturn in Cap in1st house, FP inconjunct MH).
This way the Soul is accelerating its evolution pointing to the current evolutionary purpose, fulfilling its social role as well as withdrawing in order to experience new, individuated ways of being The soul relation with itself as well as with others is evolving towards a more loving, emotional form of relating learning to hear other’s emotional needs in an objective, not projective nor narcissistic way, according to its original nature  (Venus balsamic semisquare Sun; NN Venus in 7th house Cancer square SN Aquarius conjunct Moon ;Lilith and RL in 7th house in Cancer).  
The soul has already built a strong and deconditioned self reliance but alternated with lives of narcissism and attachment to personal power desires. This has created problems in relationships, guilt and wounds related to maternity and maternal desires and emotions and now the Soul needs to recover these skipped steps by completing the issues related to the SN.
That’s why it has chosen a Moon conjunct SN, and SN ruler Uranus conjunct NN reflecting and underlying issue of a prior desire to conquer power and decondition from social patterns regarding family, feminine and maternity duties, to break free from them, because of trauma and of its need from independence and power.
But this Moon conjunct SN together with the Venus skipped steps are showing that there still are specific karmic obligations linked with the family and family members that are being carried forward into this life and have to be dealt with.
 With Pluto and SN rulers, Mercury and Sun, conjunct in 7th house in Cancer,  that also hosts RL, as well as O.L. and DML in 5th house Taurus conjunct Vesta, the current purpose and way to deal with it is through relationship and family and devoting to them.
Venus skipped steps reflect trauma for procreation as well as trauma for the Soul’s experiences as a child for power causes and its need of independence and self reliance.
Venus skipped step and semisquare to Sun reflects the need to experience maternity recovering the autonomy and objectivity of SN, living it from an individuated perspective, that in the cusp of individuated state manifests as devoted but without giving up to social pressures of her role and status. In addition, the FQP trine to Saturn reflects the intention of accepting responsibility and the ability to creatively actualizing in that role in a personal lifestyle integrated in the existing society, which was what she did.  

To all this are related Diana’s experiences of lack, loss and abandon.  
Venus PP in Scorpio in 11th house reflects the need to learn to hear to other and other’s needs and objectively evaluating others. May be the Soul needed to experience abandon and suffering in order to accept vulnerability and develop empathic feelings to complete its individuation by dissolving its blind spot regarding its own shadowy desires and behavior in order to heal its wounds and evolve towards a more loving and spiritual way of relating (Chiron in Pisces conjunct Resolution SN opposite Pluto and Mars in 8th house Virgo in GT with Neptune in Scorpio and Sun Mercury RX in Cancer in 7th house).
In addition, Venus rules Ceres, a very outstanding asteroid in her chart.
CERES in 4th house in Taurus conjunct Vesta and DML in 5th reflects a need to nurturing  most easily expressed in the area of home and family and an identification of nurturance with receiving physical security, a sense of stability, and being touched and held: “I don't want expensive gifts. . . I just want someone to be there for me, to make me feel safe and secure”.
She preached a doctrine of hugs and warmth. “Hugs can do great amounts of good - especially for children”.“I had always wanted to hug people in hospital beds. A visit to an AIDS hospice in 1991, with Mrs. Bush, was a stepping stone for me. This particular man, who was so ill, started crying when I sat on his bed, and he held my hand, and I thought Diana, do it, just do it, and I gave him an enormous hug. It was just so touching because he clung to me and he cried. I thought, Wonderful!”
 
This can also lead to identification between love and food, that derived in her food disorder, the lack of loving touch and security resulting in bulimia.
Food disorders began when her husband said she was getting fat, and bulimia manifested after her post-partum depression and the increasing magnitude of the marital problems she experienced, her husband’s relationship with Camilla complicated matters. This caused her to take comfort in eating.
”You inflict it upon yourself because your self-esteem is at low ebb, and you don't think you're worthy or valuable. You fill your stomach up four or five times a day - some do it more - and it gives you a feeling of comfort.
It's like having a pair of arms around you, but it's temporarily, temporary. Then you're disgusted at the bloatedness of your stomach, and then you bring it all up again. And it's a repetitive pattern which is very destructive to yourself. “ “It was a symptom of what was going on in my marriage. I was crying out for help, but giving the wrong signals, and people were using my bulimia as a coat on a hanger: they decided that was the problem - Diana was unstable. “

Issues relating to parents and other family matters tend to play an especially important role in her life; especially her devotion to her children – “I live for my sons. I would be lost without them” - reflected in Ceres conjunct Vesta in 5th house, is part of her need to deepen the relationship to her own self: Every one of us needs to show how much we care for each other and, in the process, care for ourselves”.
Focusing in her own self-care and self nurturing would also be needed though more difficult for her, thus requiring periodically withdraw from familial responsibilities in order to nourish herself.
The urge to nurturing trough physical care unites in her to the ability to offer spiritual guidance, reflecting the Soul’s creative expression through a path of service and spirituality. (Ceres conjunct Vesta in Taurus opposite Neptune in Scorpio)
Her mother’s abandon is also reflected in that Ceres in 4th house conjunct Vesta and DML opposite Neptune (Chiron’s ruler), the square to Jupiter conjunct Saturn reflects also the emotional lack of her father, may be the family itself.
The cause of this experience of loss is natural guilt for having abandoned or rejected children creating trauma for herself and others, for not having being present for independence and/or power reasons, being this the foundation of her own loss wounds that in turn created a consciousness crisis leading to a spiritual transformation (Ceres opposite Neptune  and DP square Jupiter conjunct Saturn in a Grand Cross with Lucifer in 8th house Leo, and trine Pluto; SN Ceres conjunct SN Uranus in Sag in 12th house square Pluto and Chiron in Pisces conjunct SN and Moon in Aquarius).
Here is also reflected the food disorder based on guilt for the prior Soul’s attitude regarding maternity and nurturance that it’s trying to heal and repair through Sun, Mercury, Lilith, R.L. and NN Venus, Vesta and Pluto in Cancer in 7th house  and the water GT they form with Neptune and Chiron conjunct SN and Moon.
The healing work was done relative to her own children as well as in all her humanitarian works of service, always concerned with physical proximity and care, as well as concrete issues, , and especially in her fight for elimination of personal mines on behalf of children.
The Kite aspect pattern constellated by the water GT (Neptune, Sun Mercury and Chiron) and Ceres in the apex as an aspiration reflects that the Soul has “forgotten”, evaded and projected nurturing needs and responsibilities (square Saturn) for a while but in this life the Soul intended to throw off this attitudes creating worries and failures that had to be confronted, as her problems with her mother and also in the intimate relationship with her husband. This put in movement in a creative manner the water GT of dedication to loving relationships, familial and public, and making use of social power to help healing the wounds of those suffering for lack of resources, immunological diseases, unprotected children and socially marginated people.“Nothing brings me more happiness than trying to help the most vulnerable people in society. It is a goal and an essential part of my life - a kind of destiny. Whoever is in distress can call on me. I will come running wherever they are.”
The NP conjunction Ceres Vesta reflects the development of this attitude of giving nurturing and unconditional love as a spiritual path of service and creative actualization.

This loving and serving water GT forms another Kite pattern in which the aspiration apex is Pluto in balsamic conjunction with Mars and NN, thus the evolutionary intention of culminating the cycle of deep understanding of power.
Here the Soul intends to overcome its blind spot relative to dark and shadowy emotions, relative to power, sexuality and destructivity. Once the Soul was able to face its own shadow and destructivity this energy turned in a great healing potential; as well as the abandon – caused an suffered -  reflected in this opposition with Chiron conjunct Persephone and sextile Ceres (in turn biseptile Saturn) still hold it back because of the need of reliving, while the sesquisquare between Chiron and RL in 7th house Cancer helped her to transform pain and humiliation in a deep understanding of other’s emotional needs and learning from is natural guilt (RL opposite Saturn).
The healing and service potential and purpose reflected in the water GT was already established in the Soul, whereas its integration with the shadowy and masochistic aspects in order to bring to culmination the evolutionary intent of actualizing power as service to Humanity, and reflected in the Lesser Grand Trine, was still growing in the life as Diana.
It’s interesting to note that the two Kite’s interior oppositions also inscribe in a Mystical Rectangle (Pluto, Neptune, Chiron, Ceres), pattern that reflects her tendency to present and need an image of orderliness and consistency that gives to Pluto in Virgo the appearance of the “perfection” desired. This search and image of perfection with the internal compression reflected by the oppositions is at the same time one of the causes of her bulimia and of her converting past and present suffering in humanitarian service and seeking of spiritual guide. I have not reliable information about her spiritual life, but the potential is here, and may be this is the growing talent reflected in the Lesser Grand Trine of Pluto, Neptune and Sun. Anyway, the Sun’s trine to Neptune penetrating the MR is of great help in bringing a realization of the confronting Soul’s aspects reflected by the interior oppositions.    


LADY DIANA –  QUEEN ELIZABETH I
When looking for the first time Diana’s chart, with Queen’s Elizabeth still in mind, I noticed that her Moon was in the same degree that the Queen’s SN; wondering if it was the same Soul I looked at their synastry and found (to me) amazing relationships.
Rad, ¿does it make any sense?  

Sorry, I am not able to post the synastry chart. Here are the aspects I found more meaningful, but there are more. . .
 Diana’s Moon is in 25º 02’ Aquarius, in the same grade, minute and house that was Queen Elizabeth’s SN, with the Lunar Nodes conjunct between them.
Diana’s Moon is quintile Elisabeth’s Moon; it forms a Yod with Queen’s Saturn and Sun and a septile with Queen’s Ceres, all “fated” hints.
Di’s SN is inconjunct E’s Saturn and sesquisquare Uranus.

Diana’s Pluto balsamic conjunct Mars is in the same sign and house that was Queen Elizabeth’s Sun; square her Mars and trine Elizabeth’s Moon.

Diana’s Saturn (conjunct SN Saturn and Pluto) is conjunct Elizabeth’s Pluto and opposite Elizabeth’s Saturn in 23º  Cancer in 7th house, Diana’s R.L. is in 26º Cancer.
Actually, Elizabeth had Saturn conjunct Uranus in 7th house Cancer, and Diana has Sun conjunct Mercury (Pluto and NN rulers) there, but also R.L. conjunct Psyche, NN Saturn, Pluto. Jupiter and Vesta, Lilith and NN  Venus.
Diana’s Mars in 8th house Virgo and conjunct NN and SN ruler Uranus is inconjunct Elizabeth’s Pluto and conjunct Elizabeth’s NN.
All this looks like a picking up in unresolved and guilt issues and the intention to heal repair and continue with evolutionary intentions.

Venus skipped steps in Diana’s chart   (also squaring Elizabeth’s nodes) seems to be recovering Elizabeth’s problems with procreation and intimate relationships, as well as actualizing Elizabeth’s “task” of giving a heir to the Crown, but following the Soul’s desire intention to have and nurture children; Diana’s Venus is also trine Elizabeth’s Pluto in 1st house Aquarius.
Diana’s Venus SN in 8rth house Leo conjunct SN ruler Uranus is square Elizabeth’s NN Venus in 7th house in Leo.
Diana’s Midheaven conjunct NN Chiron in Libra is conjunct Elizabeth’s SN Mars and Venus and NN Chiron.

Diana’s very outstanding and aspected Ceres is conjunct Elizabeth’s Moon, square Pluto, inconjunct Venus, square NN Venus and trine Juno, whilst Di’s Venus trines Queen’s Sun(?).

Diana’s water Grand Trine with Sun landing in Elizabeth’s 7th house conjunct Uranus conjunct Saturn seems that the current purpose is healing the trauma and guilt caused in relationships, Chiron is sesquisquare Elizabeth’s conjunction, while Neptune is conjunct Queen’s  Midheaven and opposite her Moon.
Ceres, the aspiration focus of the Kite, sextile Chiron and Sun is conjunct Elizabeth’s Moon.
All the planets of the Mystic Rectangle are in aspect to Elizabeth’s Moon.

Rad, I really appreciate not only your instruction and feedback, but also your being ready to wait, to read, to always being responsive. God Bless you
Mirta




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« Reply #282 on: Apr 17, 2012, 07:36 AM »

Hi Elen and Mirta,

Thanks for making the effort to do the EA of Princess Diana. I will post my observations and comments about your work tomorrow: Wednesday.

God Bless you both,

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« Reply #283 on: Apr 18, 2012, 08:58 AM »

Hi Elen and Mirta,

I have read through both of your EA analysis's of Princess Diana. Everything that you both stated in your analysis's were as accurate and they were exceptional EA. This is how EA is meant to be done. I am not going to extract and highlight any specific things that you each have said because the entire analysis by each of you stood out for me. I would strongly suggest to anyone reading this thread that you read the analysis by Elen and Mirta of Princess Diana because this is what EA is meant to be. Bravo to you both.

Mirta: you did have your question about whether Princess Diana and Queen Elizabeth are the same Soul. You simply had an intuitive feeling that this may be so with the resulting EA astrology to reflect this possibility. This is great intuitive work by you because the answer is YES. 

I am attaching their synastry charts for others to see.

Bravo to you both !

God Bless, Rad


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« Reply #284 on: Apr 18, 2012, 11:08 AM »

Hi Rad,
Thanks so much for your feedback. I am really happy for beginning to be able to practice EA as it is meant to be, I thank you for it also.
I am happy for your confirmation about the Soul, I don’t trust much in my intuition, but it was so strong that I had to do a great effort to focus on Diana’s chart without seeing it as a continuation of Elizabeth’s life.

I have a question about the water Grand Trine, was it established, so to speak, in an intermediate life?
God Bless
Mirta
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