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« Reply #30 on: Sep 29, 2011, 12:21 PM »

Hi Kristin,

Excellent EA analysis and reasoning of her natal chart. Yet there are many more dynamics relative to her evolutionary and karmic issues that have not been covered. This primarily concerns her intimate issues in relationships, a deep and unresolved hysteria that has been suppressed, and the causes of it. Within this an unresolved guilt that correlates with her sexuality, and how that sexuality has been used by her relative to others. And, within that, her carrying a lot of guilt that has been projected onto her, not just by the consensus of societies in general, but by those who have closest to her by way of intimacy and close friends. What is the nature of that projected guilt ?

God Bless, Rad

and your question:

"Yes, thanks Rad for offering to do the EA paradigm using famous peoples charts. I do find it to be a way to work with the paradigm that serves to develop a greater understanding of the process and the work, to share this journey with others, especially if everyone participating has access to the information about the famous person in question.
 
I also did not know much about Gaga, with the exception of listening to my ten year old daughter blasting some of her music in the house, while dancing and singing Poker Face at the top of her lungs. I have a new found respect for Gaga and am fascinated that her music appeals not only cross continents but cross generations.

I am sorry to see things drop off here but perhaps a bit of summer has something to do with it.

The one area I did not develop or explore too much, as I was focusing so much on her past and present life, is where this is all headed evolutionarily speaking for her. How does she evolve in her own unique way. What does that look like as she enters the spiritual state? I CAN ONLY IMAGINE.....

She is so famous for surprises..perhaps only God knows how that will manifest but Rad could you shed some light on this question??? I know she will always have a role in reaching many, it is simply how she is wired. She sure would have a powerful voice to remind people of the NATURAL GOD/DESS! And I am pretty sure she will have a role in bringing the Goddess back to the modern world but any thoughts you could offer Rad would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks too Gonzalo for your post. It certainly added depth and color to her story for me.

Peace,
Kristin

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In her natural evolutionary progression that will lead into the 1st Stage spiritual this will manifest, at that time, as a series of lives in which she will withdraw, to a large extent, from the world in order to enter into a inner state of deep reflection. Within this reflection, and withdrawal, the seeds within her Soul of her own origin issues rooted in the Creator of All Things will begin to germinate and grow. This will lead to then lead to lifetimes of intense service, conscious service, to the Creator that will have the affect of shifting her own inner sense of personal identity in which she fully understand the relationship between the wave and the Ocean. As this takes place her inner serve of purpose will then shift from ‘my will’ to ‘the will of God/ess. And, from there, she evolve through many lifetimes in which that service to God/ess will take place in a variety of ways including being a ‘warrior’ for God/ess much like the life of Joan of Arch.

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« Reply #31 on: Sep 29, 2011, 12:23 PM »

Hi Gonzalo,

Excellent EA analysis and reasoning of her natal chart. Even though I understood your reasoning in the first post you made it would be best if you could have provided the EA symbols behind your reasoning and analysis. Your analysis does not include many other evolutionary and karmic dynamics that are relevant to the totality of her evolutionary progression as related to her past. And those are all the issues linked with her personal and intimate relationships which include her own sexuality. There are many deep emotional dynamics within her that need to be understood so as to understand her totality beyond her obvious impact on the world, and the reasons for such impact. If you feel drawn please see if you can identify these dynamics and issues.

God Bless, Rad
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« Reply #32 on: Sep 29, 2011, 12:25 PM »

Hi Jason,

Excellent EA work and reasoning relative to what you have analyzed and shared. Yet there is much about her intimate and personal life, which you have alluded too, which needs to be understood and developed more. This is the area of her life that she is in fact in a relive situation, not fruition. 

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« Reply #33 on: Sep 29, 2011, 12:38 PM »

Hi Cat,

An excellent first effort Cat. Below are some comments, issues, and questions that, if you feel drawn, I would like you to address.

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"With Pluto in Scorpio in the 11th House, Lady Gaga has spent many lifetimes trying to break free of conditioning patterns and outmoded forms of self definition that are the reflection of the composite effect of society, her parents, friends, and her early upbringing in general. This signiture helps explain why she is 3rd Stage Individuated."

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This signature only manifest that way because of her evolutionary condition. That same signature in a consensus chart would not manifest this way for example.

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" Lady Gaga's core evolutionary intention has been to shed the skins of the past and to grow and evolve beyond her personal limitations by forming relationships to anything she feels she needs or desires in order for that growth to occur.  Such limitations have likely been related to social and famial conditioning patterns, her own individuality, her past lifetimes rebellious nature, fear of entrapment or commitment and anything that she feels attempts to define her in any way.   

With Pluto inconjunct the Sun in Aries in the 4th House, Lady Gaga came into this world with an awareness that she has something special to do in relation to her evolutionary intention to transform her personal limitations, yet was not immediately sure how to tie this special something to “service to others” or “the whole.”  At some point in this life she experienced some type of crisis which induced self analysis so she could figure this out (possibly her first Saturn Return)."

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She has not even had her first Saturn return yet. Music has been a vehicle for her Soul before this life. As a result of that fact her Soul is simply picking up from where it left off: she did not need to ‘figure it out’. It was/ is a natural instinct with her Soul structure that spontaneously manifested itself in the ways that it already has.

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"This “something special” is related to her purpose in this life which is her career in the entertainment industry which allows her to express her will, individuality and (bi-sexual) sexual instincts through her ego/self-image in a manner not limited to socially defined gender roles – hence her androgenous, yet sexual , stage appearance.  With the Sun semi-sextile Jupiter in Pisces in the 3rd House, which is trine Pluto in Scorpio in the 11th House, Lady Gaga is learning to transform personal limitations related to how she communicates her beliefs by communicating them through her poetry (lyrics), music, and her art in general. Jupiter is square Saturn in sag in the first house.  In an interview in USA Today, gaga was asked  where her “inspirational facial bones” suddenly came from.  Her answer was “"They've always been inside of me, but I have been waiting for the right time to reveal to the universe who I truly am," says Gaga, adding, "They come out when I'm inspired." Moving on and worrying how this can be twisted and harm others, she said “"It's artistic expression," Gaga says. "It's a performance-art piece. I have never, ever encouraged my fans or anyone to harm themselves, nor do I romanticize masochism." - These statements reflect her Jupiter square Saturn. "

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These statements start with her Pluto in Scorpio conjunct her S.Node, and her N.Node in Taurus in the 5th conjunct her Venus in Aries.

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"Pluto is semi-square Uranus Rx in Sag in the 1st House. Lady Gaga does not accept the status quo and has an instinctual desire to liberate herself from past definitions of who she is as a unique individual.  She has also had to struggle to establish her purpose in a way that reflects her individuality.  Uranus in the 1st House implies karmic restrictions that have prevented Lady Gaga from being able to integrate or fulfill her special destiny in past lives as she has had a “super human” complex in the past that needs to be balanced out as well as a need to learn how to integrate her special purpose within the limitations of society.  She is learning to transform these limitations by allowing herself the freedom and independence to express her beliefs, philosophy, and desires by projecting her revolutionary, unique and shocking identity outward within boundaries (performance arts) that society can accept.  In an interview with Oprah, Gaga says, “I basically call the House of Gaga all day and argue with them about what I want to do while they tell me, 'You can't do that,'" she says. "And I say, 'Yes, I can bleed to death on domestic television if want to!' So, for me, it's all about being provocative, not just getting people's attention. It's about really saying something that affects people in a real way and a positive way."

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What karmic restrictions would those be ?

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"At the same time, this placement speaks of trauma in the past.  Gaga wasn't accepting consensus beliefs and when she expressed her own beliefs she was shutout, isolated, made fun of, bullied (discussed further later on), or even persecuted because of her beliefs.

With Pluto conjunct the South Node, and Opposition the Node which is conjunct Venus,  Lady Gaga is in an evolutionary and karmic state in which she is both reliving the past and enjoying a fruition state.  The Pluto SN conjunction occurs in Scorpio in the 11th House.  In order to feel power rather than powerlessness in her past lives, Lady Gaga may have formed relationships with symbols of power such as community or tribal groups who were revolutionary or rebellious, or secret societies.  She may have been involved with like minded others who practiced magic, alchemy, ritualistic sex, or anything taboo.  It is possible that she was betrayed, abandoned cast out or ostracized by whatever societies she was part of due to being a member of such groups. "

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If so, why would that be ?

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" This resulted in past life trauma which she started working towards healing in the past as seen by Pluto opposition her NN conjunct Venus in Aries in the 1st House.  The trauma caused her to shutdown and withdraw but she struggled   to break free, or liberate herself, from suppressed emotions, desires and feelings of isolation in order to be free to express her creative purpose.  Although Venus is Conjunct the NN, the Pluto opposition indicates she worked on this in past lives. She most likely succeeded in breaking free of these inner limitations at her first Saturn Return."

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She has not had a Saturn return yet.

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" From that point on, she has likely been in a fruition, rather than a relive condition.  With Neptune in the 1st House in Capricorn sextile the SN, Lady Gaga has idealistic expectations related to her individualality as well as society and the world we live in.  Deep inside she believes in living right and that everyone (society as a whole) should live right."

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Living right means what ?

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"On a deep level she also believes in sacrificing oneself for the good of the whole which results in deep feelings of guilt. "

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Why ?

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Cat, again, excellent first effort.

God Bless, Rad


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« Reply #34 on: Sep 29, 2011, 12:50 PM »

Hi Linda,

Your EA analysis and reasoning, in terms of 'fitting' her biography to the EA paradigm, were excellent but it does not really reflect of embody the ‘why’ of any of it. In other words it’s more descriptive and summary based rather than cause and affect based. It also does not address, like the others, anything about her personal life, her intimate life, which is in fact in a state of relive: not a state of fruition. If you feel drawn please answer the various questions I pointed out.

God Bless, Rad

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"She is accelerating the individuation of numerous functions or patterns correlating to unresolved physical, emotional, mental and spiritual traumas, inhibitions or suppressions in the course of the current life:

Sudden traumatic events that result in exposing the truth of her actual nature and altering her lifestyle.  Intense manipulation by friends and lovers.  Being rejected by others for no apparent reason.  Betrayal, abandonment, sudden loss, misapplication of trust, psychological abuse, sexual abuse (Pluto, Moon, Neptune).

    Prior egocentric structure of her Soul, self-image, emotional dynamics, limitations, areas that she gravitates to on a repetitive basis because they represent security and familiarity (South Node).
    Philosophical beliefs, loss of meaning, religious indoctrination, irrational rage, (natural ruler of 11th house Uranus Sag 1st).
    Relating patterns, instinctive attractions, androgyny, gender role transcendence (11th house ruled by Venus Aries 5th, Venus ruled by Mars Capricorn 1st, Gemini rules 7th house, NN Uranus conjunct Chiron Gemini).
    Feminine persona, psychosis, neurosis, self-image (SNs Vesta/Neptune/Venus in Aquarius, Moon Scorpio 12th).
    Sex, desire, rage, mental trauma, special destiny (Mars conjunct Uranus).
    Intellectual and mental trauma (Mercury square Uranus, Uranus semisextile Pluto, Uranus rules 3rd house).
    Trauma due to societal expectations (Uranus square MC).
    Family trauma, childhood emotional imprinting, neurosis, inferior self-image, loss of faith, massive disillusionment, sense of detachment and dissolution from family roots (Neptune rules 4th house).
    Disillusionment of self (Neptune Cap 1st).
    Physical trauma, repressed sexual desires (Saturn semisextile Pluto).
    Misapplication/violation of trust, intense betrayal, manipulation by others, sexual violation, misuse of sexual energy, separation by death, emotional dependency (Cancer rules 8th house containing Lucifer)."


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This is just a lot of descriptions of the archetypes involved with no EA analysis as to why her Soul has created any of this for itself.

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"Trauma to any of the above areas can cause a chain-like reaction.  The above physical, emotional, mental and spiritual traumas are being purged through her North Node, a strong-willed Leo approach by taking charge of her career, creativity, ideas, and putting these into action, bringing them into reality, and giving them a sense of special purpose.  She is attempting to heal a multitude of unresolved traumas by means of her creative talents that instinctively allow her to go beyond the old obsolete patterns.  This healing takes the form of creating shocking lyrics, dramatic videos, containing bold social statements regarding sexual assignment, that really reflect her inner reality and what her Soul desires to liberate from.  Support by her group of fans (like attracting like) promotes easy and steady evolution and liberation from past cultural conditioning patterns.  She is experiencing an intense fruition condition in this lifetime in which her inner courage and strength allows her to express what is different and unique about herself (ruler of NN, Venus Aries ruled by Mars Cap 1st;  Saturn Sag 1st;  Uranus Sag 1st;  SNs Uranus/Mars Sag 1st)."

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Again, this is just all descriptions without any EA analysis of her actual Soul history: what is the cause of the betrayals, what are the causes of the abandonment, why the need to create them in the first place, what types of traumas and why did she need to create them in the first place, and so on.

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"North Node Taurus 5th conjunct its ruler Venus means that these archetypes are not brand new, she has been working on these in prior lives, and will continue working upon them in the current life.  Her current evolutionary intentions are to control her special destiny and purpose and to actualize it through the power of her will." 

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Why ? What has come before that has lead to this ?

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"With ruler Venus Aries tightly conjunct the NN, the purpose will be linked to becoming aware of her individuality in a social context, initiating relationships on an instinctive basis, balancing extremes, learning equality, and developing her individuality.  She sees herself as her own symbol of transformation and power, and effectively transmits this message to her ‘group’ allowing them to grow and change along with herself." 

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All Souls become aware of their individuality in a social context. What extremes are being balanced, and why is that ? Why is she learning equality, what is the basis of this ? Her individuality is already highly developed from her prior lives so it’s not a matter of developing it.

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"Her Lunar Nodes at birth had just turned Direct enabling a thrust forward to set into motion the dynamic outpouring energies of her Soul desires and intentions.  Her Nodes at 0.02 deg Scorpio/Taurus are a culminating archetype meaning that an entire sequence of lives is culminating in the Scorpio/Taurus archetype.  Regarding the number of aspects to Pluto, the evolutionary pace in this lifetime is geared toward the expression of the Air element, ideas, messages, communications (grand trine made up of Pluto, Jupiter/Vesta and Pallas in Air houses). "

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Why ?

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"Pluto conjunct the SN is a partial replay of the past, and mostly a fruition condition of these archetypes as a natural resource brought in from the past."

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What past ?

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"With Mars sextile SN, Mars trine NN, ruler of NN (Venus Aries) trine Mars, her Soul intentions are actualized in an easy and steady manner creating a harmonious fruition between the past and future.  The Pluto/Mars phase (a crescent phase sextile with orb widened) means a secondary life (not primary), a slowing down, and the planting of new seeds (like Taurus).

The desire for gender-role transcendence (de-conditioning from Saturn) creates an inner vibration whereby she creates or attracts to herself individuals who confess their attraction to her, or individuals to whom she is attracted."

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Where does this desire come from ? What is the basis of it ? What in her evolutionary history correlates to it ? And how does this correlate to others ‘confessing’ their attraction to her, or her ‘confessing’ to others whom she is attracted ?

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"The wide stelliums made up of Saturn-Juno-Uranus and Uranus-Mars-Neptune;  Saturn opposite Chiron;  Saturn sesquiquadrate Venus;  Saturn trine Sun;  and Vesta in the 3rd house (linked by rulership to the 1st house) illustrates ...........

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Illustrates as in describing something. What is the basis of what you are trying to describe or illustrate ?

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"..........the emergence of her de-conditioned essential nature through the 1st house physical body, the taking of new paths and directions, and the fulfillment of her sexual desires in an instinctive way. "
 
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What desires would those be that manifest instinctually ?

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« Reply #35 on: Sep 29, 2011, 12:52 PM »

Hi Mirta,

Excellent EA analysis in which you focused on her the archetypes of her androgyny, and thus her wholeness. Brilliant use and analysis of the various asteroids and planets, and their nodes, in so doing.

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« Reply #36 on: Sep 29, 2011, 05:07 PM »

Hi Rad,

Thank you so much for the feedback!  Kind of rolling my eyes here as I looked at her chart, I looked at pictures of her, I read interviews with her, but I never looked at her date of birth!  Saturn Return  :-)

Here are the answers to your questions (I will work on the other aspects of Gaga's chart - like her relationships) tomorrow:

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"Pluto is semi-square Uranus Rx in Sag in the 1st House. Lady Gaga does not accept the status quo and has an instinctual desire to liberate herself from past definitions of who she is as a unique individual.  She has also had to struggle to establish her purpose in a way that reflects her individuality.  Uranus in the 1st House implies karmic restrictions that have prevented Lady Gaga from being able to integrate or fulfill her special destiny in past lives as she has had a “super human” complex in the past that needs to be balanced out as well as a need to learn how to integrate her special purpose within the limitations of society.  She is learning to transform these limitations by allowing herself the freedom and independence to express her beliefs, philosophy, and desires by projecting her revolutionary, unique and shocking identity outward within boundaries (performance arts) that society can accept.  In an interview with Oprah, Gaga says, “I basically call the House of Gaga all day and argue with them about what I want to do while they tell me, 'You can't do that,'" she says. "And I say, 'Yes, I can bleed to death on domestic television if want to!' So, for me, it's all about being provocative, not just getting people's attention. It's about really saying something that affects people in a real way and a positive way."

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What karmic restrictions would those be?
Uranus in the 1st House implies karmic restrictions :  Uranus is liberation from conditioning patterns and the first house is her individuality.  Uranus is retrograde here telling us that Gaga is a very unique individual with a tendency to rebel by trying to shock others, including members of her own peer group.  She is so unique and innovative that she feels a great deal of pressure coming from her peers who see her as very different than they are.  As a result she either socializes with people who are also very different than “the norm” or chooses to be a group of one. This is a pattern from her past which she brought forth into this life.  It is restrictive in a karmic sense as it's not just a matter of being unique or innovative.  Along with those traits comes subconscious fears from previous lifes where such uniqueness and her innovative ideas were too crazy for her peers and society in general that she was either ostracized or cast out resulting in karma that has to be worked out between her and the members of these groups in her past.

Uranus is in Sag, which is ruled by Jupiter, which is in Gaga's 3rd House in Pisces.  This tells us that this past life experience (or trauma)  of being labeled as crazy, and made an outcast, has effected Gaga's mind, as well as conditioned her beliefs about herself and who she believes she is.  She is very aware that she is seen as different and feels insecure because of it, but with Uranus Rx here in the 1st House, she also feels secure in her insecurity and it prompted by her unconscious to liberate herself from both the insecurities and the past life conditioning that makes her believe that she is strange, crazy, out there, whatever you want to call it. And with Pisces in the mix, these beliefs she holds in regard to her individualality are merely illusions.

In a recent interview in Rolling Stone, “ Lady Gaga tells contributing editor Neil Strauss art is life and not being fierce isn't an option: "When I wake up in the morning, I feel just like any other insecure 24-year-old girl," she says. "Then I say, 'Bitch, you're Lady Gaga, you get up and walk the walk today.' "

This statement reflects both the insecurity resulting from past life trauma regarding her indentity as an individual and the fact that she carries a self-defined image of herself which she refers to as “Lady Gaga.”  This can be tied over to the Jupiter conjunt Mercury in the 3rd house which adds the infamous Gemini “duality” into the mix.  She is both Stefani Joanne Angelina Germanotta and Lady Gaga.  The comment about “not being fierce isn't an option,” shows us that the Aries archetype is definitely coming through and is part of her self-identity.  The Aries flavor comes from both the first house placement of Uranus and Uranus being conjunct Mars in the 1st House.  A desire to express that belief that she needs to be fierce.



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"At the same time, this placement speaks of trauma in the past.  Gaga wasn't accepting consensus beliefs and when she expressed her own beliefs she was shutout, isolated, made fun of, bullied (discussed further later on), or even persecuted because of her beliefs.

With Pluto conjunct the South Node, and Opposition the Node which is conjunct Venus,  Lady Gaga is in an evolutionary and karmic state in which she is both reliving the past and enjoying a fruition state.  The Pluto SN conjunction occurs in Scorpio in the 11th House.  In order to feel power rather than powerlessness in her past lives, Lady Gaga may have formed relationships with symbols of power such as community or tribal groups who were revolutionary or rebellious, or secret societies.  She may have been involved with like minded others who practiced magic, alchemy, ritualistic sex, or anything taboo.  It is possible that she was betrayed, abandoned cast out or ostracized by whatever societies she was part of due to being a member of such groups. "

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If so, why would that be ?
With SN conjunct Pluto Rx in the 11th house, Gaga's composite past life ego structure was an expression of Pluto's core intention and desires. It is possible, based on Pluto being retrograde, that in the past Gaga rebeled against her own soul's desire to experience itself through others in intimate relationships (Scorpio) and purposely merged with groups (Aquarius)  out of a fear of becoming entrapped in an intimate relationship.  Being that she felt alienated by the status quo or main stream society in the first place, she chose fringe groups which were considered taboo to merge with. These groups were unacceptable in the eyes of anyone outside the group, and once it was discovered that she belonged to such a group, she was cast out of “normal” society and  became a social outcast.  It is possible, with Scorpio involved, that in some past lives, she joined groups that were violent, destructive or evil in some way or they were perceived this way whether they were or not.  Looking across at the 5th house polarity, I think its safe to say that Gaga was an extroverted member of any group she joined.  She wasn't staying in the shadows, but was out there performing whatever role she played in the group and there was never a doubt that she was a member.  Its likely that she did something so outrageous that she was ostracized or cast out from her peer group of “like-minded individuals” as well as she may have called too much attention to them.

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" From that point on, she has likely been in a fruition, rather than a relive condition.  With Neptune in the 1st House in Capricorn sextile the SN, Lady Gaga has idealistic expectations related to her individualality as well as society and the world we live in.  Deep inside she believes in living right and that everyone (society as a whole) should live right."

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Living right means what ?
Jupiter is in Pisces.  Jupiter symbolizing her overall beliefs, philosophies and how she interpretes life.  In Pisces, being that she is 3rd Stage individuated, she is starting to sense  the reality of her more spiritual self and the divine.  Jupiter is Sextile Neptune in Capricorn in the 1st House, conjunct Mars, which is conjunct Uranus in Sagittarius.  Her old beliefs are being dissolved and deconditioned and Uranus is sparking her consciousness with new beliefs that reflect natural law (Sagittarius) – so by “living right” I mean living according to natural law.

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"On a deep level she also believes in sacrificing oneself for the good of the whole which results in deep feelings of guilt. "

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Why ?

SN conjunct Pluto in Scorpio is feeling on a deep soul level.  SN/Plu sextile Neptune in the Capricorn in the 1st sextile Jupiter in Pisces in the 3rd House brought to mind self-sacrifice (Pisces) tied to her beliefs (Jupiter/3rd) and feeling guilty about it because Mercury is in Pisces in the 3rd House opposition the MC in Virgo (guilt).  As for “the whole” that comes from both the Pisces placements and the Plu/SN in the 11th – the group.

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« Reply #37 on: Sep 29, 2011, 11:28 PM »

Hi Rad,

I am still adjusting to a dramatically different work and life schedule for myself and have not finished writing a post on Lady Gaga- could I still jump in on this if I can finish something soon?  I noticed you seem to still be looking for some aspects for participants to analyze at this stage so maybe I could include that?
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« Reply #38 on: Sep 30, 2011, 06:11 AM »

Hi Gray,

Sure, jump in at anytime and go ahead and address the next step for Gaga: her intimate and personal life as reflected through her relationships.

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« Reply #39 on: Sep 30, 2011, 06:16 AM »


Hi Cat,

Thanks for your follow up answers. All is fine except that there is in fact no karmic restrictions with her Uranus placement. Restrictions would mean that there is some kind of limitation or block from her being able to fully actualize herself in every way based on prior actions that we so in violation of natural laws that this resulted in such restrictions. This has not been the case with her. The other issue is that her Soul does not carry any guilt relative to her need to sacrifice herself to the group or whole whatsoever. Her Soul does carry guilt, but it's not for those reasons.

God Bless, Rad
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« Reply #40 on: Sep 30, 2011, 08:40 AM »

Hi Rad

Thanks so much for the feeedback, and I will see if I am able to delve in the personal and sexual dimensions in Gaga's birthchart.

God Bless,

Gonzalo
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« Reply #41 on: Sep 30, 2011, 11:00 AM »

Hi Rad,

Thanks too for the feedback and for letting me know what needs to be more developed in particular the personal piece in friendships and intimate connections - also where the guilt in her comes from.

I will work to develop it more on Sunday..

I wanted to re-post your response to my question about how does Lady gaga evolve - what does 1st stage spiritual and so on look like..your response below gave me those 'knowing' chills.

In her natural evolutionary progression that will lead into the 1st Stage spiritual this will manifest, at that time, as a series of lives in which she will withdraw, to a large extent, from the world in order to enter into a inner state of deep reflection. Within this reflection, and withdrawal, the seeds within her Soul of her own origin issues rooted in the Creator of All Things will begin to germinate and grow. This will  then lead to lifetimes of intense service, conscious service, to the Creator that will have the affect of shifting her own inner sense of personal identity in which she fully understands the relationship between the wave and the Ocean. As this takes place her inner sense of purpose will then shift from ‘my will’ to ‘the will of God/ess. And, from there, she will evolve through many lifetimes in which that service to God/ess will take place in a variety of ways including being a ‘warrior’ for God/ess much like the life of Joan of Arc.


PEACE,
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« Reply #42 on: Oct 01, 2011, 10:49 AM »

Hi Rad,

Thank you for looping me into this thread via my past analysis, and for the invitation to go deeper into the relive conditions in Lady Gaga's chart.  I so appreciate the mentorship.  I will respond to the comments and questions you posed to us tomorrow.  Thank you again for calling us deeper and deeper into the wisdom that is EA.  It is such a privilege to be able to participate here.

Kristin, I felt the same way about that comment of Rad's re Lady G's future.

God bless,
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« Reply #43 on: Oct 02, 2011, 06:38 AM »

Hi Jason,

So good to have you back with your own wisdom that you bring to us.

God Bless, Rad
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« Reply #44 on: Oct 02, 2011, 01:10 PM »

Lady Gaga Part 2:  Relationships



As we have seen, Lady Gaga is in a state of fruitition in regard to her artistic talents.  Looking at this from another perspective, with Pluto Rx in Scorpio in the 11th House,    Lady Gaga does not accept the status quo and naturally rebels against consensus norms of any kind. Her soul's core intention is to break free from old conditioning patterns and forms of self-definition that are preventing further growth. This placement also indicates that Lady Gaga has a need and desire to be emotionally detached in order to observe the world around her in a way that will liberate her from any conditioning patterns which are limiting her growth.  With Pluto in Scorpio, these limitations are related to her fear of entrapment, fear of intimacy, fear of merging with another in an intimate relationship, and sex. 

Lady Gaga's South Node is conjunct Pluto in Scorpio in the 11th house in opposition to her North Node in Taurus which is conjunct Venus in Aries in the 5th House.  Pluto is the South Node Ruler and Venus is the North Node Ruler.  With Pluto conjunct the SN we see that unique evolutionary and karmic factors exist involving relive and fruition conditions. Lady Gaga's Pluto makes both stressful and non-stressful aspects to other planets indicating a need to relive some conditions from her past and others are in a state of fruition.  Pluto is in opposition to Venus indicating that she is in a relive situation in regard to her relationships. With Venus conjunct the NN we see that Lady Gaga has worked on her NN potential in the past making both the NN and Venus a major part of her past life experience.

The SN in Scorpio in the 11th house implies that in order to liberate herself from past conditioning patterns and personal limitations related to emotional expression and sexuality, Lady gaga has experiemented with unconventional or “kinky” forms of sex in the past.  What is considered unconventional or “kinky” is of course relative to the social, cultural and religious “norms” of the times and places she was born into in the past.  Regardless of what exact type of sex she had, it was a form of sex devoid of emotional warmth or expression in which she was a detached participant due to her fear of intimacy, entrapment, commitment or fear of merging with another on a deep emotional level.  With the SN conjunct it's ruler, Pluto, we can see she has been doing this a very long time and this form of “liberation” has become a limitation itself as she still has these very same fears of commitment, entrapment or intimacy. 

The Pluto/SN conjunction is in opposition to the NN/Venus conjunction in the 5th House which is Pluto's polarity point.   The Aries/5th House polarity point symbolize's the soul's intention for further growth in the current life. We have already seen that Lady Gaga has special gifts and talents in the arts through which she is instinctually expressing her individuality and special creative purpose.  The NN in Taurus conjunct Venus opp Plu/SN indicates that Lady Gaga needs to focus on her inner relationship with herself in  relation to her desire to break free of the conditioning patterns discussed above.  She is learning to listen to her own needs and is developing an awareness of what is meaningful to her.  This includes exploring her sexuality in order to establish an inner relationship with her own sexual needs and desires.

With the NN in Taurus, Lady Gaga has been learning about sensuality.  In order to have intimate emotional relationships she needs to first develop an awareness of her own sexual resources. One way in which she can develop this awareness and learn about sensuality is through masterbation.  Exploring her own body in this manner will lead to the sexual self-confidence she needs in order to be intimate with an emotional/sexual partner. 

Venus is in Aries in the 5th House which is ruled by Mars in Capricorn in the 1st House
which is conjunct Neptune in Capricorn.  Venus symbolizes both her inner relationship with herself and her outer relationships with others. The 5th house influence indicates she is creative, playful and giving, yet competitive. It also tells us that she needs a lot of feedback and recognition as she feels she is unique and special. With Aries she is narcisstic and self-centered and can be aggressive and dominating. Lady Gaga always keeps a deep part of herself to herself and does not share it with a partner.  She cannot fully commit herself to another person even though she may appear to be fully committed based on the manner in which she expresses her sexual instincts and sexual desire.  She also has a tremendous need for freedom and independence.  With Venus in Aries, there is an emotional paradox between the desire to be free and independent vs the need to become involved in relationships with others.

Mars in Capricorn the 1st house indicates that Lady Gaga is acting on on her subjective desire to decondition herself in relation to moralistic and religious conditioning patterns from her past lives which have created a deep unconscious sense of guilt within her.  In her most recent past lives, she has lived in very authoritarian societies and cultures which were extremely moralistic based on the authority of man-made religious structures. In these lives she has also had strict authoritarian parents who repressed their emotions and/or sexuality.  Mars in the 1st house indicates a new beginning in which Lady Gaga is instinctually actualizing her subjective desire to act on her unconscious repressed desires from her past in order to fulfill her core intention and desire to evolve past her personal limitations related to her fear of intimacy and sex in general.In order for this to happen she needs to be free and independendent in order to have many sexual experiences with many different people.  The bottom line is that in acting out these past sexual desires she eliminates the desire.

With Mars in Capricorn in the 1st, Lady Gaga's natural instincts and desires are contrary to her past life conditioning patterns. She has a strong instinctual need and desire to express herself sexually which she has had to either repress or act upon in secret or behind closed doors in the past.  This has created psychological emotional and sexual distortions within her which can only be healed by her learning to accept herself as a sexual being without concealing her sexual nature out of a fear of judgement.

With Neptune conjunct Mars, Lady Gaga's unconscious repressed desires first manifest in her imagination or through fantasies.  She has an ability to create her own reality based on her dreams, imagination and fantasy and when these desires manifest in in her “real” life, she is not always aware that she created and is responsible for the resulting circumstances and events that play out in her life. This unawareness makes her falsely feel she is being victimized by life or other people.  This in turn creates an inner anger within her making her want to hurt or cause some kind of pain to the “perpetrator.”  Of course, she is the real “perpetrator” and needs to learn that it is her own desires that are creating these realities.

With Neptune in Capricorn in the 1st house, Lady Gaga's unconscious mind is full of memories from lives in which she was exposed to man-made religions that advocate strict moral codes of conduct and repress, or restrict, any behavior associated with natural law. In her past, Lady Gaga has deviated from this behavior and has acted in accordance with natural law.  This has produced either a sense of guilt and anger within her or guilt and a need to atone, or a combination of both. This guilt will dissolve once she completely aligns with natural law and  completely rejects man-made religious conditioning.    Lady Gaga needs drugs or alcohol to loosen up and relax in order to have the type of sex that allows her to release her repressed sexual energy and let her
emotions come to the surface.   As she grows older, she will progressively discover her emotional essence and learn to lose control of herself through these experiences.

 With Venus in Aries in the 5th House, Lady Gaga creates relationships in which everyone must serve her and her purpose in some way.  She is attracted to people who have a strong sense of self,  a passionate nature, are self-oriented, and have a strong purpose in life.  With Mars in Capricorn, she attracts sexual partners who are sexually fractured or sexually repressed in some way.  With Neptune conjunct Mars these partners appear to be innocent, sensitive and pure at first.  Both her sexual partners and the other people she forms other types of relationships serve as mirrors and are a reflection of Lady Gaga's own inner self. Once Gaga sees herself in another, she reacts by becoming disillusioned and angry (Neptune), witholds her sexual energy out of fear of losing her independence, her fear of commitment, fear of intimacy etc (Venus), or the relationship may become abusive, violent or based on dominance or humilty (Mars).

Lady Gaga's Venus is trine both Mars in Capricorn and Uranus in Sagittarius in the 1st House.  This is another indication of her need to liberate herself from past relationship patterns by embracing natural law and rejecting man-made religion was has caused her to repress her subjective and sexual desires in the past.  Her Mars/Neptune conjunction
is ruled by Saturn in Sag in the 1st House opposition Chiron in Gemini Rx in the 7th House square Mercury and Jupiter in Pisces in the 3rd House. 

With Saturn in Sagittarius in the 1st House, there is again a desire to break free from all sexual inhibitions and sexual contraints which have caused deep emotional and sexual anger and distortions within her as she intuitively understands that sexuality is a natural part of life.  Again this reflects her desire to break free of past moral and religious conditioning and embrace Natural Law. This is a new beginning and happens on an instinctual level. With Saturn opposition Chiron in Gemini healing can take place through a diversity of relationships with a variety of different types of people.  These relationships are not only sexual but friendships and other types of relationships as well. With Chiron in Gemini in the 7th House, Lady Gaga will learn what other people think through these relationships and this communication will serve to heal her.  With the square between Chiron and Mercury and Jupiter both in Pisces in the 3rd house her thoughts, ideas, philosophies, religious and/or spiritual beliefs will all be challenged through these relationships in order to help open her mind and dissolve old moral and religious conditioning patterns in order to reinforce her intuitive beliefs in relation to naatural law.  Intellectual discussions and confrontations will occur in order for this to happen.
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